HomeMy WebLinkAboutWINGSHADOW, 1225 REDWOOD STREET - PDP/FDP - 30-02A - DECISION - MINUTES/NOTESPlanning and Zoning Board Minutes
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orderly evacuation of the building and grounds, and an evacuation
plan addressing transportation and temporary shelter.
Member Carpenter seconded the motion.
Member Craig commented that she understands the neighborhood concerns with
compatibility. She believes this organization is coming in in good faith to work
with the neighborhood and at least work with their students to improve the area.
As far as the floodplain issue goes, she will vote for this but is very uncomfortable
with putting these kids in jeopardy, not just putting them in the floodplain, but
putting them in the floodway.
Member Gavaldon stated he would be supporting the motion. He appreciated
what Stormwater is trying to do because it is not just the school you have to
protect, but the citizens who bought homes in the area. He appreciated the
neighborhood coming forward with their concerns about objects being there
longer than they should be. He hoped that the neighborhood and the school
would work together.
The motion was approved 7-0.
Project: Recommendation to City Council for the City
Plan Update and the Transportation Master
Plan Update Characteristics for Futyce Size
\ and Character of Fort Collins, # 3=03
Project Descr pti Request to forward a recommendation to the
City Council regarding the characteristics to be
used in the -updates to City Plan and the
n rtation Master Plan describing the
f size and character of Fort Collins.
Recommendation: Approval
Hearinq Testimony, Written Comments and Other Evidence:
Ken Waido, Chief Planner gave the staff presentation.
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Mr. Bolton replied that it would be difficult because right now you have kids going
over there and going down the trail and doing things and their kids are not even
there. He cannot control that area, but he will control the kids at their school.
Member Craig asked Mr. Schlueter to briefly tell her about the Water Board's
decision on the requested variance and what their concerns were. Also what
staff's recommendation was on the variance.
Mr. Schlueter responded that staff's recommendation was not a recommendation
but a list of options for the Board to consider. They did not recommend anything
because they did not want to err on the side of bureaucracy. They wanted the
Board to have the free will to choose what the right thing to do was in this
situation. As far as the objections were for the 2 votes out of 11 that did not vote
in favor of the variance; that this is in the floodplain and that it did not meet the
elevation criteria, even though the floor is 6 inches above the floodplain
elevation. There would not be water in the building itself in a 100 year storm. It
was more an issue of getting the children out of there before the storm got there.
It could be as deep as 3 feet at the intersection of Conifer and Redwood, which
would prohibit getting completely away from it. Mr. Schlueter showed the Board
a map depicting the flow path. What the Board was worried about was how far it
was to dry land, which would mean getting through the intersection. It came
down to the realization that they could have plenty of warning when they put in
this warning system. They have a separate system that is redundant to our
system and is really a similar system. It was decided that they would need a
certificate of occupancy and meet all the requirements before they would let any
kids move in.
Chairperson Torgerson asked if this project complied with the Master Drainage
Plan.
Mr. Schlueter replied that would apply to new buildings, this is an existing
structure.
Member Bernth moved for approval of Wingshadow Large Group Care
Facility, Private School, Child Care Center and Office, PDP, #30-02 with the
following condition:
1. There Shall be no Certificate of Occupancy issued for Wingshadow
at 1225 Redwood Drive until there has been satisfaction of Floodway
Variance Condition of Approval as granted by the City of Fort Collins
Water Board. This includes the installation of an early warning flood
detection system in the Dry Creek drainage basin sufficient to
provide approximately two hours advance notice for a safe and
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Chairperson Torgerson asked if that was a standard operating characteristic of
theirs.
Mr. Bolton replied no. It is very rare that they were donated two vehicles at one
time.
Member Gavaldon stated that the applicant should know that there are city laws
against unlicensed and non -working vehicles in parking lots.
Mr. Bolton replied they would take care of that right away.
Member Craig asked Mr. Bolton to talk about Frontier High School and what will
the campus rules be.
Mr. Bolton replied that the kids would not be wandering all over the neighborhood
at all different times. There will be a closed campus. Before school and after
school they will be coming and going, but other than that they will be there at the
school. The kids in the large group care facility will not be able to roam the
neighborhood at all. It will be a staff secure facility where they will have to stay
inside the building unless they go out with a staff member. It won't be something
where kids will be just wandering around the neighborhood. He cannot promise
that at lunchtime, kids will not leave the facility, because they are not held
hostage there. It is something where they can come and go, but at the same
time it is not an open campus where there are free periods. Everyday, all day
long, they have classes that the kids are supposed to be in.
Member Craig asked if there was any adult after school that sends the kids on
their way, or do they just open the door and they are still out there at 7:00 at
night.
Mr. Bolton responded that they do check to see that they are not out there at
7:00 or even 4:30 p.m. The kids did have permission by the owner of the
Toddy's Shopping Center to go over there, they even set up a place for them.
They had no control over the kids going over to the shopping center when they
had permission from the owner.
Member Craig asked if the kids were going into the residential areas and ruining
the green areas with cigarette butts, was there an avenue the residents have of
controlling that.
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something going on back there. They have called the police several times and
they have responded and took care of the situation. They take care of the lawn
that is on Redwood, it is the HOA's responsibility. They have had damage to
their fence. damage to the water sprinklers and they just don't want anything
going on from this school to add to the problems. They say that nothing is going
on and he has sat in the church parking lot and seen plenty of things going on.
Public Input Closed.
Chairperson Torgerson asked Planner Shepard to address Mr. Lamar's
concerns.
Planner Shepard reported that after the neighborhood meeting it was clear that it
was operational characteristics that were the primary concerns. In response to
that, the applicant has committed to meeting on a regular basis with the
neighborhood representatives, or anyone for that matter. The Department of
Neighborhood Resources has offered to facilitate the first meeting to set a
structure and a format, and to establish rules and expectations. Staff feels that
with the commitment by the applicant, and the fact that there would be an
organized standing meeting for any citizen to bring their complaints forward,
establishes a rapport and a communication where if someone does have a
complaint, they are not puzzled as to what to do with it.
Mr. Dehn rebutted that he wanted the neighborhood and the Board to know that
they are very open minded about helping people and helping kids. They are very
open about the neighborhoods and always have been. They want to keep an
open mind and sit down and address anything. He thought that all their goals
were to take care of the kids and that is their focus. They will work with their kids
because they have rules and structures that they will have to abide by. The city
has worked with them through several processes and they will make sure they do
what they say they are going to do.
Chairperson Torgerson asked about the vehicles in the parking lot that are not
running.
Steve Bolton of Wingshadow responded that people bring them vehicles to
donate to them. They are in the process of getting those removed and sold.
Being a non-profit, there is a process and you just can't get them towed away.
They have to be able to account for the donation and that is what they are in the
process of doing. The cars should be gone shortly.
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teenagers and young adults in need of
counseling and transitional housing.
Recommendation: Approval
Hearina Testimonv. Written Comments and Other Evidence:
Ted Shepard, Chief Planner gave the staff presentation recommending approval.
He stated that there would be very little change to the exterior of the building. He
stated that the Board had seen this project last summer as a request to rezone
the property to the CCN, Community Commercial North College Zoning District.
Bob Dehn, representing Wingshadow, the applicant on the project stated that the
facility is located at 1225 Redwood Street and they were back to answer
questions and concerns for the Project Development Plan. They are a non-profit
organization and their goal is helping the youth of Northern Colorado. This will
be a homeless shelter, Frontier High School and a child care facility. Today the
school is located at Drake and Lemay. They also have another facility where
they have pregnant teenage girls, four girls and four babies over in the
Summitview area. These two facilities have been running for years in residential
neighborhoods. They have had a very positive feedback from all residents.
They think tonight will help the residents of the area with questions they may
have.
Public Input
Bob Lamar, President of Redwood Association, which is across the street from
the proposed school stated that he has driven around town and seen the
students in the Toddy's parking lot smoking and doing whatever they do there.
They are concerned because Redwood is a dead end and they were concerned
about all the kids hanging out down at the end of Redwood smoking etc. Another
concern is that they have had a car in their parking lot that has been sitting there
for two months and it has not moved out of the one spot. Recently another car
was added and has not moved out of that spot for a month. They are concerned
about cars being left in the parking lot that do not run and they are concerned
with what the neighborhood is going to look like because everything around the
neighborhood is fields.
The police have been back at the dead end because there is a bike trail back
there and they always catch people doing drugs and whatever back there. His
neighbors are scared to even walk that bike path because there is always
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Project:
Project,Description:
Recommendation to City Council for
Amendment to the Natural Areas Po
Recommendation to City Council for an
amendment to the Natura�eas Policy due to
the voters in Novemberapp roving an existing
1/a cent sales tax for 2-6years, which has
broadened the COy's land conservation
abilities. An amendment to Section 5.0, which
provides ayt orizing language establishing the
policy bT- is for land conservation by the City is
necessary.
Chairperson Torgerson thoug�it that this item haci been discussed at worksession
and there was no concerns but wanted to ask if there was any public discussion.
Public Input
None.
Member Craig moved to forward the recommendation of approvahto City
CounarC for the amendment to the Natural Areas Policy.
Member Colton seconded the motion.
JThe motion was approved 7-0.
Project: Wingshadow Large Group Care Facility,
Private High School, Child Care and
Administrative Office— Project Development
Plan, #44-02
Project Description: Request to convert the existing structure at
1225 Redwood Street for the purposes of a
large group care facility, private high school,
childcare and administrative offices. The
private high school would be for Frontier High
School. The large group care facility would be
for up to 15 residents. The residents would be
Council Liaison: Karen Weitkunat
Chairperson: Mikal Torgerson
Vice Chair: Jerry Gavaldon
Staff Liaison: Cameron Gloss
Phone: (W) 416-7435
Phone:(H) 484-2034
Chairperson Torgerson called the meeting to order at 6:35 p.m.
Roll Call: Colton, Bernth, Meyer, Craig, Carpenter, Gavaldon and Torgerson
Staff Present: Gloss, Eckman, Shepard, Schlueter, Stringer, Jackson,
Baker, Waido and Deines.
Director of Current Planning Cameron Gloss reviewed the Consent and
Discussion Agendas:
1. Minutes of the October 17th, December 16, 2002 (continued)
and the January 16, 2003 (continued) Planning and Zoning
Board Hearings.
Discussion Agenda:
2. Wingshadow Large Group Care Facility, Private High School,
Child Care and Administrative Office — Project Development
Plan.
3. #3-03 Recommendation to City Council for the City Plan Update and
the Transportation Master Plan Update Characteristics for
Future Size and Character of Fort Collins.
4. Recommendation to City Council for an Amendment to the
Natural Areas Policy.
5. #11-03 East Mulberry Corridor Plan Rezone.
Member Gavaldon moved for approval of the October 17, 2002 Planning
and Zoning Board Minutes on the consent agenda.
Member Carpenter seconded the motion.
The motion was approved 7-0.