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37. Question: When you add density in this area, will the foxes
leave?
Answer: (City) The City will need to look into this during the
development review process.
32. Question: What is the ratio of single family units to multi -family
units?
Answer: (Developer) We don't know yet, this is just an ODP.
There are steps in the development review process,
such as the ODP and PDP's. We will be trying to do an
estimate.
33. Question: What is the difference between commercial and
residential zoning?
Answer: (City) For one thing, commercial has a longer list of
permitted uses.
34. Comment: We all have the NIMBY attitude. 500 to 600 homes
going out to two exits doesn't seem to make sense.
Response: (Developer) If the Traffic Impact Study states there are
issues, we will need to address that.
(City) Obviously, connections to Summit View Drive, to
the west, would help alleviate potential traffic
circulation and congestion problems.
35. Question: The area is flat except the area where the slough is.
What will the water do when a large storm event
occurs?
Answer: (Developer) Our engineers will need to design the
project to adequately handle a 100-year storm.
36. Question: What consideration will be taken for the natural
wildlife?
Answer: (Developer) The City has a Natural Resources
Department that will look at this during the
development review process and they could likely
require buffering, as needed.
(City) An ecological characterization study will need to
be part of the developer's Overall and Project
Development Plan submittals. Natural Resources will
look at, review, and make comments on these plans.
26. Comment: There is no access onto Mulberry Street from what I've
seen.
Response: That is correct. The ODP does not show access to and
from East Mulberry Street.
27. Question: There is a Boxelder sanitary sewer that goes east along
our house, then west, then back out, but I don't know
where it goes out to. Is there is supposed to be an
easement? What effect will the granting of easements
have?
Answer: (Developer) Yes, there is an easement but we aren't
showing it on this map.
28. Question: Who will be supplying sanitary sewer and water to this
development?
Answer: (Developer) In this case it won't be the City. Boxelder
Sanitation District will supply the sanitary sewer and
East Larimer County Water District will supply water.
29. Question: Why is the developer bringing this up again. Is there
something hot?
Answer: (Developer) The property is owned by a pension fund.
We have a company interested in the red (commercial)
area on the ODP. There is a six month evaluation
period by the buyer. Closing could potentially occur in
2004 and construction could commence in 2005. The
City requires an ODP on the property at this point to
evaluate the potential development.
30. Question: Where is the existing Harley Shop?
Answer: (Developer) It is on the west side of the Frontage Road
just north of the commercial parcel that is shown on
this ODP.
31. Question: How many residential units are we looking at now?
Answer: (Developer) The primary residential zoning on the
property is LMN - Low Density Mixed -Use
Neighborhood, which requires a minimum of 5
dwelling units per acre. We're projecting about 600
dwelling units on the Interstate Land property.
20. Question: Why not just leave us alone and not develop the
property east of us?
Answer: (Developer) We have a property owner that has an
interest in developing his property.
21. Comment: We pay to keep the streets up in our neighborhood.
There are issues with snow removal on our streets.
Response: (Developer) These are the kind of things we need to be
reminded of.
(City) This is important information to consider.
22. Comment: It just seems that everyone who wants to connect the
streets between developments and neighborhoods does
not live out there.
Response: (City) Our Land Use Code has the criteria about street
connections that has to be addressed with any
development proposal.
23. Comment: Why talk about it (street connections), it's not going to
happen.
24. Comment: Have you visited our neighborhood? There is nothing
but country, no sidewalks or street lights. Applewood
Estates development is a travesty. If you went through
our neighborhood you'd see. There is no other
neighborhood like us. You'll be on our side.
Response: (City) We are unable to "take sides". We are charged
with reviewing development proposals as objectively as
we can while being impartial.
25. Question: The four weeks that you (the City) review, do we have
access to the comments sent to the applicant?
Answer: (City) Yes, and you can access this through me. I can
provide the comments to you as they are part of public
record in the development review process.
16. Comment: (Developer) We will not submit a plan that shows
connectivity from the Interstate Land ODP into
Boxelder Estates, but we know we will get a comment
from the City about this. It could be that we submit a
plan with no street connection to be built, but a right-
of-way platted.
17. Question: Every 7 years we seem to get a new zoning plan, and
everytime we go through these issues. We keep going
back to the same thing. This has been a nice meeting
but why doesn't the City pay attention to us?
Answer: (Developer) In fairness to the City, none of our
previous plans have gotten so far as to take a
development plan to a public hearing where the City
makes a decision.
18. Comment: We don't know how long you've had the land but we
had a hearing on this property before.
Response: (Developer) There were some previous developments
that had gone though the City's development review
process but none under the new City Comprehensive
Plan and Land Use Code.
(City) The Interstate Land PUD, Preliminary went to
the Planning & Zoning Board in March, 1996. This
plan was for highway business uses on 26 acres at the
north west corner of the East Prospect Road 8v I-25
interchange, just along the frontage road. The
Interstate Land PUD, First Filing, Final (Harley-
Davidson) went to the Board in June, 1996. This plan
was for the motorcycle shop on 4 acres on the west
side of the frontage road.
19. Comment: The streets in our subdivision (Boxelder Estates) are
not wide enough for through traffic from adjacent
properties.
Response: (Developer) We will need to evaluate that should
connectivity be required by the City at time of
development review.
11. Comment: We don't want Sherry Drive or East Locust Street
extending into adjacent properties.
Response: (Developer) We don't see it as being a connection that
could physically be done and don't anticipate this.
12. Comment: I haven't heard tonight about the industrial area (to
the north) and what will happen with their streets.
Response: These areas don't have the ability to make the
connection because the streets aren't platted to extend
to this property.
13. Comment: I wish you gave us the map we're seeing tonight and
not what we got in the mail (referring to City's Vicinity
Map attached to notification letter). It's 100 years old
and crap.
Response: (Developer) We'll look into sending you something
better.
14. Question: The ditches in the area are full of the West Nile virus
and green slime? Can you, the City, write a letter to
the Health Department?
Answer: (City) We will look into this.
15. Question: What are the names of the streets that are being
considered to extend from Boxelder Estates into this
property?
Answer: (Developer) In talking with a City engineer it is possible
that they would want a future connection from only
one street and that street has not yet been determined.
We may go down to the Planning & Zoning Board with
two possible alternatives: one with a street connection
or one with no street connection.
(City) We are getting somewhat ahead of ourselves
tonight. We will evaluate this with a development
proposal submittal. The applicant will be required to
submit an Alternative Compliance request justifying
no street connection if that is what they want to
propose.
agreed that certain roads and streets would not be
extended into GT Land. We have something very
special, it is a county neighborhood, it is private land,
and we have worked hard to maintain the special land
that we have. I have a petition that is signed by 100
people not liking your ideas of connectivity [submitted
to the City tonight].
I also have a petition signed by 99% of the HOA stating
we do not want traffic and streets going through.
You've probably seen me standing in the street. People
talk to me, as president of the HOA, about the fact
that the Boxelder Estates HOA does not want streets
from adjacent properties going through our
neighborhood.
In closing, I emphasize that emotion runs deep on this
issue. We do not want any type of access (vehicular,
pedestrian, or bicycle) across our open space. If you,
the City, disagree we won't be as nice as we are
tonight.
7. Comment: I wish we on Prospect Road had someone as strong as
you in the Boxelder Estates HOA
8. Comment: It's real important that we count on better access for
bikes and pedestrians. We see developers slide in on
concepts. When I see young mothers pushing kids on
West Vine I think it's a bad situation. I worry about
that on East Prospect Road.
Response: (Developer) I take my bike out on Prospect Road. It is
part of the City's Master Plan for a trail. We also look
at pedestrian circulation within the neighborhood.
9. Question: What side of the ditch is the trail going to be on?
Answer: (Developer) We're not sure yet, there are no firm plans.
10. Comment: We hope it's not on our side. It's not that we don't like
humans, we just like our humans and not others.
Response: (City) No response because a reasonable response not
available.
3. Comment: We were already in a meeting about a year ago
regarding a project and it was going to wipe our house
out. It would be nice to know what will happen and
when.
4. Question: How long are we going to have to wait until all of this
takes place?
Answer: (City) We do not know at this time.
5. Comment: My name is C.J. Streit. I have been here (in Boxelder
Estates) since 1975. I thank the City for the
opportunity to attend this meeting tonight. I represent
20 people who purchased 5.3 acres for the sole
purpose of preventing the extension of the streets from
this property into our neighborhood. We do not want
any extension of any type of connection for 6 reasons:
A. The character of our neighborhood is defined as
it currently exists. We enjoy it very much and
don't intend to let it change.
B. There is a safety issue with only one access. We
all know each other and know if through traffic
occurs.
C Liability. We are at risk for anything that
happens with the land. When we expose our
access we increase liability.
D. This area has been designated as a potential
wetland, and as such, no roads are supposed to
go through. There may be endangered species
and we don't want to spend any time or money
protecting this.
E. We are responsible for the maintenance of the
area and any change in that regard is an issue.
F. From the standpoint of health, safety, and
welfare there is no reason to have connections
from the Interstate Land property into our
neighborhood. With all due respect, we stand
united against any connection of the streets.
6. Comment: (Bonnie Newton) Ditto to what C.J. said. In 1993 there
was a group that did not want the streets to go
through. We filed a lawsuit with GT Land (the property
owner) and settled for 5 acres. We signed a contract
with GT Land to maintain an open space for an
equestrian area and no outdoor storage; and, it was
Commk__aty Planning and Environmenta. !rvices
Current Planning
City of Fort Collins
PROJECT:
DATE:
APPLICANTS:
NEIGHBORHOOD INFORMATION MEETING
Interstate Land, Overall Development Plan (ODP)
August 12, 2003
Cityscape Urban Design, Inc.
c/o Eldon Ward
CITY PLANNER: Steve Olt
The applicants are proposing a mixed -use development on an
undeveloped property that is 177 acres in size. The proposal may consist
of 500 to 750 residential dwelling units (single family and multi -family
dwelling units), commercial and employment uses, a 12 to 14 acre
neighborhood park site, and a small neighborhood center site. The
property is located on the north side of East Prospect Road and west of
Interstate 25. The existing Frontage Road curves through the southeast
portion of the property and continues north along the east side of the
property. The existing Boxelder Creek runs diagonally through the south
and east sides of the property and the Cooper Slough runs along the
west side of the property. The property is in the City of Fort Collins and
is in the C - Commercial, E - Employment, LMN - Low Density Mixed -Use
Neighborhood, and UE - Urban Estate Zoning Districts.
.......... QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS, RESPONSES ..........
1. Comment: (Developer) The applicant may be submitting the ODP
in the next few days.
2. Question: Has this proposed development project taken into
consideration the East Prospect Road street widening
project?
Answer: (Developer) East Prospect Road will be widened along
our street frontage with this project. We will be
required to do an off -site interim widening as well.
(City) Also, the Prospect Road /I-25 interchange would
need to be improved.
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