HomeMy WebLinkAboutTIMBERLINE VILLAGE - HARMONY SCHOOL SHOPS, 4TH FILING - PDP - 10-03 - DECISION - MINUTES/NOTESPlanning and Zoning Board Minutes
August 21, 2003
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Vice -Chairperson Gavaldon stated that he would support the project but that he
would like to make sure the evergreens, buffering, and berming on the east are
adequate. He commended Planner Shepard and the applicant.
Chairperson Torgerson complimented the architects on their sensitivity toward
the historic Harmony School. He stated concern about the notification of property
owner process citing that none of the residents of the mobile home park were
notified specifically.
Director Gloss stated that was one of the recommendations, to expand
notification to renters, in the upcoming Land Use Code revisions.
The motion was approved 6-0.
Cambridge House Apartments, Modification of
Standards, File #6-03A
Request for a modification to Section
3.2.2(K)(1)(a) of the Land Use Code to r ce
the number of required off-street parki
spaces from 175 to 160. The site i ocated at
1113 W. Plum Street and is zo d Community
Commercial.
Staff Recommendation:
Troy Jones, City Planner, gave the staff esenta ' n, recommending approval.
He stated that this is the second mo ' 'cation reques f this nature that has
come before the Board. The site is
ust north of the Ca s West commercial
site between Plum and ElizabptK, fronting on Shields and PI m. The existing
complex has 102 two-bedr m units and the applicant has ant ated a
forthcoming project de v opment plan that will add 18 additional elling units; 6
two -bedroom units result from a conversion of the existing pool h se
complex and 12 i;hree-bedroom units that will be in a newly constructe building.
The unit cou as not changed from the previous modification request. T e
Planning d Zoning Board granted the modification request the first time to \
reduce a required number of off-street parking spaces from 213 to 175. The
curyent request is to further reduce that number down to 160. Some
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Chairperson Torgerson asked if the material on the Albertson's would be brick.
The architect replied that it would be brick and concrete block in a
complementary color.
Chairperson Torgerson asked which areas were brick and which were block.
The architect replied by illustrating the materials on an elevation slide. The
Albertson's, despite having a different architect, will be very similar in style to the
other buildings.
Member Colton asked about the traffic pattern for delivery trucks.
Mr. Carter replied that trucks will be coming off 1-25, circling through the site,
backing in to the loading dock, and exiting out. (Mr. Carter illustrated the flow on
slides).
Bob Fancook, Albertson's Store Director, stated that this store will likely have the
same volume as the College & Willox store. There will be about 4 or 5 full size
semi deliveries four days a week and smaller delivery trucks, up to 20 per day,
five times per week. The Albertson's trucks shut the engines down but
refrigeration trucks have a unit that does run. They are muffled well.
Member Schmidt asked about the fact that if the trucks do not want to turn right
on Harmony, do they go onto Milestone and head out that way.
Mr. Carter replied that was correct. At staff's request, the building will have
signage directing the trucks to shut engines off.
Member Carpenter asked for confirmation on the brick on the Albertson's.
The architect replied that where the elevation shows red, it is brick.
Vice -Chairperson Gavaldon moved for approval of the Timberline Village
Community Shopping Center, Project Development Plan, File #10-03, citing
the findings of fact and conclusions of the staff report, adding the
condition of Ted Shepard's memo dated August 20, 2003.
Member Carpenter seconded the motion.
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Member Craig asked why the trees were to be removed.
Mr. Carter replied that the detention pond, as it currently exists, is undersized for
the proposed development. With the increased storm flow numbers from the City,
the pond needs to be increased in size.
Vice -Chairperson Gavaldon asked what the amount of distance was to the
nearest home in the mobile home park on the east side of the property.
Mr. Carter replied that it was 35 feet. There is a 6 foot berm as well as evergreen
trees placed 20 feet on center for the length of the back of the building.
Vice -Chairperson Gavaldon asked for a cross-section.
Mr. Carter replied that he did not have one.
Vice -Chairperson Gavaldon asked if the increase in the detention pond could be
done on the east side providing a generous buffer, as was done on the north side
with the single family homes.
Planner Shepard stated that the buffering on the east side is significant and
meets the big box standards and guidelines which is one of the more strict
prescriptive standards in the Code. The buffer has to have the evergreens on 20
foot centers and has to have the berm. Staff feels it is sufficient.
Vice -Chairperson Gavaldon stated concern about the buffer on the east side and
wanted to make sure the east buffer was as generous as the north.
Planner Shepard replied that this is a substantial buffer.
Vice -Chairperson Gavaldon asked if there was any way to keep the lighting away
from the mobile home park.
Planner Shepard replied that the applicant has met the lighting code and are not
spilling off -site.
Vice -Chairperson Gavaldon asked if the neighborhood meeting included the
mobile home park.
Planner Shepard replied that the owner of the mobile home park was notified but
that he was unsure of what the owner did to notify the residents.
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loading or trash removal permitted between the hours of 10 PM and 7 AM unless
the applicant would submit evidence that the decibel level would be 45 decibels
or less as measured at the lot line.
Chairperson Torgerson asked what the process would be if the store wanted to
extend those hours.
Director Gloss replied that they would have to submit evidence that the decibel
level would be met. The process would likely be done through a minor
amendment so neighbors would not be notified.
Planner Shepard stated that there are 5 proposed light fixtures on the back of the
Albertson's. They are pole -mounted fixtures. According to the lighting plan, the
foot-candles are reduced to 0.1 at about 20-25 feet past that line. They get down
to 0.0 at about 20 feet beyond that.
Member Craig asked about the two lights closest to the mobile home park.
Planner Shepard replied that the foot-candle measurement at the property line is
0.1. Foot-candles are measurements of how much illumination occurs on one
square foot of ground.
Member Craig asked about the pedestrian connection from Harmony School to
the site and if there would be some kind of reference to the crosswalk on the
street.
Planner Shepard replied that there had been no request for that but that staff was
thinking that children walking to the school would probably be coming from the
neighborhood, not from the site. Harmony School is a private pre-school and staff
did not believe that kids would be walking there from the west side of Timberline
Road.
Member Craig stated that the site plan did show some kind of painted walkway
there. She asked about the cottonwood trees which are scheduled to be removed
at the detention pond.
Mr. Carter replied that they met with Tim Buchanan, City Forester, on site, and
identified the trees that were to be removed. He stated that they were going to
replace those trees at a ratio that would be acceptable, likely either 2 or 3 to 1.
So, if a 6-inch cottonwood is lost, it would be replaced with 2 or 3 other trees.
The new trees will be located either adjacent to the backs of the structures, or
adjacent to the neighborhoods.
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Member Craig asked how far the distance would be to go through the
neighborhood to get up to Timberline.
Mr. Stanford replied that it was several blocks distance. Even if it is longer,
drivers may view it as being more convenient. That is why there likely will be
some traffic going through there. That is why we've given drivers an outlet at the
T intersection to minimize the cut -through traffic as much as possible.
Member Craig asked if the neighborhood had the option to put in speed bumps if
they had a majority vote within the neighborhood.
Mr. Stanford replied that was correct. The neighborhood traffic program can
address those kinds of issues.
Chairperson Torgerson asked what the cameras on Harmony Road were for.
Mr. Stanford replied that they will monitor the streets for backup and congestion,
or accidents, to help put up verbal messages and to help alleviate the problem as
it is happening.
Chairperson Torgerson asked about signage at the Winterstone neighborhood.
Mr. Stanford replied that he did not believe the neighborhood had any frontage or
entry residential signage.
Chairperson Torgerson asked if there was any signage that the traffic department
might put up.
Mr. Stanford replied that there are signs that can be put up to indicate to drivers
that they are entering a residential area. Neighborhoods may also be allowed to
put up signs outside the right-of-way.
Vice -Chairperson Gavaldon asked about the process of traffic calming being
separate from the PDP. He stated that neighbors need to get together to work it
out and asked if other projects had required signage in neighborhoods.
Mr. Stanford replied that other projects had involved putting in signage in
neighborhoods.
Director Gloss replied to the question about timing of deliveries. He stated that
the limitations do not appear in Article 3 of the Land Use Code. They are in the
Large Retail Establishment standards and state that there is no delivery or
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Vice -Chairperson Gavaldon stated an example of a T intersection in Loveland
which functions very well. He stated that it will save money and time as opposed
to a stoplight intersection.
Member Schmidt asked about the lighting on the backs of the buildings.
Planner Shepard replied that there will be lights at the exit doors for the retail
spaces.
Mr. Carter replied that the lighting on the back of the buildings is primarily for
security. They are under the canopies associated with the access doors and are
low-level, down -directional, cutoff fixtures. There are no street lights on the back
sides of the buildings. The only pole lights are in the parking lot on the other side
of the building.
Chairperson Torgerson asked about lighting on the loading area.
Mr. Carter replied that there is ambient lighting on the loading area.
Planner Shepard replied that there is parking lot lighting on the east side of the
Albertson's and that loading is restricted under big box standards and guidelines
but there will be some operations during the darker hours of winter. There is a
combination of building and yard lighting at the loading dock. All of them are
down -directional and there is no light spillage off the site.
Brian Baudin, 4417 Silverstone, gave his testimony to the Board. He stated that
his home backs directly to the loading area. He asked about the time frames for
loading and unloading as well as hours of operation.
Member Craig asked if Mr. Stanford ever went on site to determine the traffic
issues at Milestone and Timberline.
Mr. Stanford replied that some timing work has been done there for the past
month and that video cameras have been installed along Harmony Road, one at
Timberline.
Member Craig asked if Mr. Stanford was confident that there would be no
stacking problems at Milestone.
Mr. Stanford replied that he did not think there would be any problems. There
may be more trouble at high peak times, such as the holidays. The average
weekday traffic should not create a problem.
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Public Input Closed
Mr. Shepard stated that the lighting on the back of the center will be cutoff
lighting, as required by the Land Use Code.
Chairperson Torgerson stated that cutoff lighting is lighting that will not go
beyond the boundaries of the property.
Ward Stanford, Traffic Operations, addressed the question about traffic on
Winterstone. He stated that there is a possibility that traffic could go onto that
street and in the Winterstone subdivision. That was one of the reasons that the
channelized "T" intersection came into play at Milestone and Timberline. This will
provide protected access to encourage that route to be used. Until some other
connection gets made to adjacent properties on the east, that was the best
solution to minimize cut -through traffic in the neighborhood.
Member Craig asked if Planner Shepard could illustrate how going through the
neighborhood would not be very direct.
Planner Shepard replied that the site map shows that Milestone "T's" very
quickly. Just past the Milestone Shopping Center driveway, Milestone "T's,"
which is traffic calming. Turning right at that T, you will stay on a local street
network until you have to turn left. There is no gain to turning right into
Winterstone. There is not advantage to going through the neighborhood. There is
natural traffic calming there.
Mr. Garcia stated that Milestone can be avoided all together by going through the
neighborhood. He illustrated his point on the site map.
Mr. Stanford stated that the neighborhood would provide an access out but that it
is going to contend with the volumes of traffic that are traveling on Timberline
without any kind of protection. The channelized T provides a protected
intersection. That will not completely stop the neighborhood use but it should
help. Mr. Stanford stated that there should be minimal stacking on Milestone and
that will not create much of a delay.
With respect to a liquor store being a permitted use, Planner Shepard replied that
it is a permitted use.
The applicant stated that a liquor store is a planned use in the center.
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master -planned as Harmony School Shops. The site is at the northeast corner of
Harmony Road and Timberline Road in the Harmony Corridor zone district.
Rob Beery, Director of Design and Entitlement for Miller -Weingarten Realty, 850
Englewood Parkway, Englewood, CO, introduced the applicant's company.
Joe Carter, Cityscape Urban Design, gave the applicant's presentation. He
stated that the nine buildings are placed around the site to screen the internal
parking lot and buildings along Harmony comply with the 80-foot setback
requirements. The buildings along the back of the project help screen the parking
lot from the residential uses. Landscaping has also been included to screen the
buildings and loading areas. There is a large detention pond which provides a
significant buffer behind building nine. The pedestrian circulation pattern through
the site includes the sidewalks along Timberline and Harmony as well as internal
circulation adjacent to the building frontages as well as through the parking lot.
Connections have been provided to the adjoining neighborhoods as well. There
are future transit stops in front of Buildings 5 and 6. Vehicular access into the site
is on Harmony Road — a 3/a intersection which allows a right in, left in, right out.
There is a full movement intersection located between the Diamond Shamrock
and Building 7. There is a right in, right out access from Timberline Road that is
existing. At Milestone and Timberline, there will be a protected T-Intersection.
Mr. Carter stated that the architecture generally follows the materials and colors
of existing buildings adjacent to the site including the Harmony School which has
a brick building material. The colors are indicative of the Diamond Shamrock, the
Harmony School, and the PVH Harmony Campus building. Albertson's has a
new prototype store, this is the first time is has been used. There are a variety of
colors and building materials and landscaping and windows allow for a more
urban feel. An arbor has been planned for the north side of the building. The
other architectural elements show pretty much the same elements as were
included in the Albertson's.
Public Input
Bob Tyler, 4436 Stoney Creek Drive, gave his testimony to the Board. He asked
about the lighting on the back of building 9 as it is directly across from his home.
Anthony Garcia, 4348 Winterstone, gave his testimony to the Board. He stated
concern about traffic on his street and it backing up on Milestone Drive.
Mike Fitzsimmons, 2119 Winterstone Court, gave his testimony to the Board. He
asked if a liquor store was going to be permitted in the center.
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Member Schmidt asked if Charlie Street ends in a cul-de-sac.
Planiier Shepard replied that it actually makes a "T." It is emergency second
point of=Schmid
e Woodland Park Estates subdivi * n.
Membeked if we were anticipatin at people would use that as an
alternative way to get`back down to Ziegle .
Planner Shepard replied that w anticipated.
Vice -Chairperson Gavaldo moved for approval of Christ Fellowship
Church, Phase One Pr ct Development plan, File #29-94C, citing the
findings of fact and nclusions in the staff report.
Member Crai econded the motion.
iMeunbe raig stated that she hoped the Board had addressed the fetters and
raised and noted that concerned neighbors should be watchingr
ring and meeting notices with respect to the school.
The motion was approved 6-0.
Project: Timberline Village Community Shopping
Center, Project Development Plan, #10-03
Project Description: Request for a 109,583 square foot community
shopping center on 15.87 acres. The anchor is
an Albertson's Supermarket with 52,443
square feet. The site is located at the northeast
corner of Harmony and Timberline Roads and
is zoned HC, Harmony Corridor.
Staff Recommendation: Approval
Hearing Testimony, Written Comments and Other Evidence:
City Planner Ted Shepard gave the staff presentation, recommending approval.
He stated that this is a request for the final and largest phase of the community
shopping center in the Harmony Corridor. There are nine buildings in the PDP,
including the Albertson's. The PDP represents a neighborhood service center
component of a planned mixed -use activity center. This area was originally
Council Liaison: Karen Weitkunat
Chairperson: Mikal Torgerson
Vice Chair: Jerry Gavaldon
Staff Liaison: Cameron Gloss
Phone: (W) 416-7435
Phone:(H) 484-2034
Chairperson Torgerson called the meeting to order at 6:33 p.m.
Roll Call: Carpenter, Craig, Colton, Schmidt, Gavaldon, and Torgerson.
Member Meyer was absent.
Staff Present: Gloss, Eckman, Shepard, Jones, Barkeen, and Deines.
Director of Current Planning Cameron Gloss reviewed the Consent and
Discussion Agendas:
Consent Agenda:
1. Minutes of the April 17 and July 17 (CONTINUED), 2003
Planning and Zoning Board Hearings.
2. #29-94C Christ Fellowship Church, Phase One, Project Development
Plan.
3. #14-03 Golden Meadows Business Park, 2"d Filing, Project
Development Plan.
Discussion Agenda:
4. #10-03 Timberline Village community Shopping Center, Project
Development Plan.
5. #6-03A Cambridge House Apartments, Modification of Standards
Recommendation to City Council:
6. #2-03 Vineyard Rezoning.
City Planner Ted Shepard informed the Board that they should have three letters,
new since worksession, regarding the Christ Fellowship Church project.
Member Craig asked that Item #2, Christ Fellowship Church, Phase One Project
Development Plan, be pulled from the consent agenda.
Vice -Chairperson Gavaldon moved for approval of Consent Item 1, less the
July 17, 2003 Minutes, and 3. Member Schmidt seconded the motion. The
motion was approved 6-0.