HomeMy WebLinkAboutCAMBRIDGE HOUSE APARTMENTS - MODIFICATION OF STANDARD - 6-03A - DECISION - MINUTES/NOTESPlanning and Zoning Board Minutes
August 21, 2003
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Vice -Chairperson Gavaldon stated that he had been very comfortable with the
175 but was concerned about the constraining factors that led to the request for
160. He stated that a compromise could make a successful project. He stated
that he would support the motion.
Member Colton stated that he was not present for the first modification hearing.
He added that it may be a good idea to take a tally of all the residents as to
whether or not they have a car.
Member Carpenter stated that she thought this was a good project but that the
demographics of the apartment complex could change and result in more cars.
She stated that she would support the motion.
Chairperson Torgerson stated that he thought it was a very attractive project and
hoped it would be pursued.
The motion was approved 6-0.
Project: Vineyard Rezoning, #2-03
Description: Request to rezone a portion of a tract nd
located at the northeast corner of st Vine
\ Drive and Interstate 25. The rcel is 78.6
acres in size and is cur re y zoned I,
\ Industrial. The prod rezoning would
rezone the east 43.8 acres of land from
Industrial to an Estate residential, the
remainin 4.8 acres of land adjacent to 1-25
ul emain zoned industrial. The parcel is
"sated as part of the 1-25 Special Corridor
Study o"r e City of Fort Collins Structure Plan.
Staff Recommendatign' Approval
City P nner Bob Barkeen explained to the Board that this item was eeviously
hpaird by the Board on April 17, 2003 and continued until the approval bfJ,,he 1-25
ubarea Plan. The idea being that we did not want to go ahead and consi
this rezoning until it was supported by the 1-25 Subarea Plan. On August 19tn
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Planner Jones replied that there will be an increased demand in parking from the
retail but that the likely retailers will be those with limited trips to and from them.
Mr. Ray stated that usually 75-100 parking spaces are sold at Cambridge House
per year.
Member Carpenter asked what the applicant would have to do if the modification
were denied or if they wanted to go back and take some commercial out.
Planner Jones replied that there has not been a PDP submitted so if the
modification request were denied, they would still have approval for the first
modification for 175 spaces. They could come back with a different modification
request for eliminating the landscape islands, for example.
Member Carpenter asked if they would have to include the commercial aspect on
the existing approval.
Planner Jones replied that they would have to build the commercial on a portion
of the first floor of the building in order to be able to utilize the original
modification request of 175 spaces.
Chairperson Torgerson asked if Mr. Wray had considered tying the parking lot
that is located to the south in with his.
Mr. Ray replied that he had not because shared parking spaces are not counted
toward parking space requirements.
Chairperson Torgerson replied that he would consider granting a modification for
that and asked about reducing the number of units to meet the 175 space
requirement.
Member Schmidt moved for denial of the Cambridge House Apartments,
Modification of Standards, File #6-03A, citing that the request does not
benefit the public good.
Deputy City Attorney Paul Eckman asked if Member Schmidt was essentially
stating that the request would be detrimental to the public good.
Member Schmidt replied that was correct.
Vice -Chairperson Gavaldon seconded the motion.
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Vice -Chairperson Gavaldon asked why the second modification was being
requested.
Mr. Ray replied that a different architect was being used and that the original
architect had not taken into consideration engineering setbacks or any planters.
He assured the Board that this would be the final modification request.
Chairperson Torgerson asked Planner Jones about the paid -for parking spaces
and if they count as meeting Code requirements.
Planner Jones replied that the Land Use Code states that "spaces that are
located in detached residential garages, but not including parking structures, may
be credited toward the minimum requirements contained herein only if such
spaces are made available to dwelling unit occupants at no additional rental
purchase cost beyond the dwelling unit rental rate or purchase price." This
section was written to prevent apartment complexes from having a certain
percentage of parking in lots and a certain percentage of parking in garages and
requiring tenants to pay extra for the garage spaces.
Chairperson Torgerson stated that about 30% of the spaces at the project are
compact spaces. That is the maximum allowed in the Code, when the parking is
long-term use. He asked if this parking lot was long-term.
Planner Jones stated that residential uses are considered long-term uses.
Member Colton asked if there was any data from other communities on parking
near college campuses versus further away from campus.
Director Gloss replied that he had not seen any studies that differentiate parking
rules based on distance from campus. He added that the transit system and
alternative modes are important considerations and that the alternative transit
modes here are limited.
Chairperson Torgerson asked about CSU's dorm parking standards.
Director Gloss replied that it depends on the type of dormitory — freshman versus
upper class. Car ownership was found to be significantly lower at dorm housing
facilities.
Vice -Chairperson Gavaldon asked about the parking demand from the
commercial uses.
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Mr. Ray stated that in order to get the 15 spaces back, land area was needed for
not only the parking but for the drive aisle associated with it. That would virtually
eliminate the entire footprint of the new building. One solution would be to
increase the parking under the building. However, part of the approval of the first
modification was to incorporate the first floor commercial space. In so doing, the
ground area for parking has been lost.
Member Carpenter stated that she was wondering if the applicant could reduce
the number of bedrooms to somehow come into compliance with the
requirements.
Mr. Ray replied that the idea from the beginning was to use the main, or ground,
floor for parking. It does not seem to be the ideal location for a mixed -use
building anyway.
Member Carpenter asked if he would be willing to drop the commercial but not
cut back on the apartment units.
Mr. Ray replied that from a practical standpoint, it makes more sense to put the
parking under the building because it is a questionable commercial space
anyway.
Member Schmidt asked if any of the traffic studies had addressed the concerns
of the Lutheran Church in terms of their traffic using the parking lot to get out
onto Plum Street.
Mr. Ray replied that he had agreed to work with the employees on some shared
parking ideas.
Member Schmidt asked if there was a divider between the lots.
Mr. Ray replied that there are some trees and perhaps a curb.
Vice -Chairperson Gavaldon asked if Member Carpenter would be open to a
continuance to get some alternative designs from the applicant.
Member Carpenter stated that it was up to the applicant if they wanted the Board
to vote or request a continuance.
Mr. Ray replied that he would rather have a vote than go back to the drawing
board on the design.
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Mr. Ray replied that it would.
Chairperson Torgerson asked about an adopted policy that stated that "charged
for" parking spaces could not be considered as part of the required number of
spaces.
Planner Jones replied that he would look it up and get back to the issue. He
believed that it had to do with garages.
Chairperson Torgerson asked if the new building would be fire sprinkled.
Mr. Ray replied that it would.
Chairperson Torgerson asked if the fire lane behind the building was actually
required by the fire department.
Mr. Ray replied that it was, likely because of the height of the building. It could be
explored as to whether or not it would be necessary.
Member Carpenter stated that she had requested an alternative plan for reducing
some of the numbers of apartments.
Planner Jones replied that he understood that Member Carpenter simply wanted
the applicant to be able to address the question about reducing the unit count.
Member Carpenter stated that she wanted the applicant to look at other
alternatives to meet the Land Use Code.
Mr. Ray stated that they did get a variance from engineering on some setback
requirements and that increased the number of parking spaces.
Member Carpenter asked how many bedrooms would have to be eliminated in
order to meet the requirements.
Mr. Ray replied that three two -bedroom units would have to be eliminated.
Member Carpenter asked if that were a possibility because the project is a good
one.
Chairperson Torgerson stated that if the second floor of the building were
commercial, that would eliminate the problem as well.
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Mr. Ray stated that the previous apartment owner did not charge for parking
permits and the number of cars in the lot was still many fewer than the number of
spaces and that parking sharing is occurring now because there are additional
spaces. Once the number of spaces is reduced, he feels it is not his
responsibility to provide parking for the adjoining businesses.
Member Carpenter stated that she was very concerned about this given that the
major problem with the Campus West subarea plan was parking. It has
historically been a terrible place for parking. She asked how the parking
standards came about.
Planner Jones replied that they were a carry-over from the LDGS. In some
cases, the parking standards are not great enough. It appears that this site is
different because it is right across the street from campus. The renters here are a
different type than those who rent more expensive units father away from
campus.
Member Carpenter asked how the parking standards were put together.
Director Gloss replied that the number of spaces per bedroom as required by the
Land Use Code is very typical for other communities nationwide.
Member Carpenter stated that, if anything, this area near campus would be an
area in which we would be increasing parking requirements per bedroom
because of the fact that two or three unrelated people of driving age are usually
occupying these units.
Chairperson Torgerson asked if the second floor of the new building would be
commercial as well as the first floor.
Mr. Ray replied that the second floor is residential.
Chairperson Torgerson asked if parking would be set aside for employees of the
commercial.
Mr. Ray replied that there are garages associated with that space and those
would likely be reserved for the commercial people. They are part of the parking
count, despite the fact that commercial does not require parking.
Chairperson Torgerson asked if the commercial would then take up some of the
residential parking as well.
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Mr. Ray stated that all residents will sign a disclosure letting them know that
there are 160 spaces.
Vice -Chairperson Gavaldon asked how many students were in each apartment
on average.
Mr. Ray replied that most units have two people.
Vice -Chairperson Gavaldon stated concern over the possible lack of parking.
Mr. Ray replied that he did not believe it would be a problem. He stated that the
previous owner never gave out more than 100 permits for parking. He stated that
many people live there so they do not have to have a car.
Planner Jones stated that he was initially concerned as well but, through site
visits, discovered that the parking was not a problem at this site.
Vice -Chairperson Gavaldon asked if the project would be able to go through in
modified form if the parking were left at 175.
Mr. Ray replied that it would not work the way the building is and the project
would not be feasible.
Member Schmidt asked if a variance to the landscape design to increase parking
would allow the project to work. She asked about the commercial aspects of the
property and whether or not people would have to go on Plum and through the
parking lot to get to the parking spaces for the commercial.
Mr. Ray replied that he was unsure as to the exact commercial uses but didn't
expect a great deal of traffic.
Member Schmidt stated that the Board did receive a letter from neighbors
indicating that parking has been a problem in the area.
Mr. Ray replied that he had never heard from Kathy Nichols (letter author) about
any of the parking problems and that there were no complaints at all at the first
hearing. He stated that he had never heard any complaints from any other
neighbors.
Member Schmidt stated concern about the general congestion of the area and
asked about potential parking sharing.
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unanticipated design restraints came up as plans were being created for the
PDP, resulting in a loss of some of the anticipated spaces. Staff is supporting the
request to further reduce the parking spaces. Planner Jones discussed the
history of the zoning district and sub -area plan for Campus West in his
discussion of the reasons for staff's support. He added that the demand for
parking also supports the request. If the Land Use Code standards were applied
to the new three -bedroom units and the current demand for the two -bedroom
units, the number of parking spaces needed would be lower than the requested
160.
Don Brookshire, Eastpoint Studio, gave the applicant's presentation. He stated
that the request would allow 1.33 parking spaces per unit and that unofficial
studies have shown the demand to be 1.03 parking spaces per unit. Mr.
Brookshire explained the reasons for the requested reduction in parking spaces
and re -iterated many of Planner Jones' points. He noted that the parking lot is
controlled and signed so that only residents can park in the lot. Mr. Brookshire
noted that the development is infill and the addition will provide much -needed
housing for CSU students and will address some of the ideas and goals that City
Plan embodies.
Chris Ray, the property owner, spoke regarding the historical use of the parking
area. He stated that about 45 parking permits had been issued thus far and that
75 were expected to be issued.
Public Input
There was no public input.
Public Input Closed
Vice -Chairperson Gavaldon stated that the Moby Gym parking lot to the east is
now going to be more controlled and he asked how many people did not pay to
park at Cambridge House and parked instead at Moby.
Mr. Ray replied that he did not believe that was happening but that there was no
definite number. He added that there have been no complaints from neighbors
regarding parking off -site.
Vice -Chairperson Gavaldon stated that Cambridge House will be selling 181
parking permits for 160 spaces and asked if Cambridge House would have more
demand than spaces with the new restrictions at Moby.
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e-Chairperson Gavaldon stated that he would support the ct but that he
woul ' to make sure the evergreens, buffering, and be ng on the east are
adequate. mmended Planner Shepard and th plicant.
Chairperson Torgerson c limented th chitects on their sensitivity toward
the historic Harmony School. concern about the notification of property
owner process citing that none e r nts of the mobile home park were
notified specifically.
Director Gloss stat that was one of the recommendation , expand
notifi=pproved
rs, in the upcoming Land Use Code revisions.
The 6-0.
Project: Cambridge House Apartments, Modification of
Standards, File #6-03A
Project Description: Request for a modification to Section
3.2.2(K)(1)(a) of the Land Use Code to reduce
the number of required off-street parking
spaces from 175 to 160. The site is located at
1113 W. Plum Street and is zoned Community
Commercial.
Staff Recommendation: Approval
Hearing Testimony, Written Comments and Other Evidence:
Troy Jones, City Planner, gave the staff presentation, recommending approval.
He stated that this is the second modification request of this nature that has
come before the Board. The site is just north of the Campus West commercial
site between Plum and Elizabeth, fronting on Shields and Plum. The existing
complex has 102 two -bedroom units and the applicant has anticipated a
forthcoming project development plan that will add 18 additional dwelling units; 6
two -bedroom units will result from a conversion of the existing pool house
complex and 12 three -bedroom units that will be in a newly constructed building.
The unit count has not changed from the previous modification request. The
Planning and Zoning Board granted the modification request the first time to
reduce the required number of off-street parking spaces from 213 to 175. The
current request is to further reduce that number down to 160. Some
Council Liaison: Karen Weitkunat Staff Liaison: Cameron Gloss
Chairperson: Mika] Torgerson
Vice Chair: Jerry Gavaldon
Phone: (W) 416-7435
Phone: (H) 484-2034
Chairperson Torgerson called the meeting to order at 6:33 p.m.
Roll Call: Carpenter, Craig, Colton, Schmidt, Gavaldon, and Torgerson.
Member Meyer was absent.
Staff Present: Gloss, Eckman, Shepard, Jones, Barkeen, and Deines.
Director of Current Planning Cameron Gloss reviewed the Consent and
Discussion Agendas:
Consent Agenda:
1. Minutes of the April 17 and July 17 (CONTINUED), 2003
Planning and Zoning Board Hearings.
2. #29-94C Christ Fellowship Church, Phase One, Project Development
Plan.
3. #14-03 Golden Meadows Business Park, 2"d Filing, Project
Development Plan.
Discussion Agenda:
4. #10-03 Timberline Village community Shopping Center, Project
Development Plan.
5. #6-03A Cambridge House Apartments, Modification of Standards
Recommendation to City Council:
6. #2-03 Vineyard Rezoning.
City Planner Ted Shepard informed the Board that they should have three letters,
new since worksession, regarding the Christ Fellowship Church project.
Member Craig asked that Item #2, Christ Fellowship Church, Phase One Project
Development Plan, be pulled from the consent agenda.
Vice -Chairperson Gavaldon moved for approval of Consent Item 1, less the
July 17, 2003 Minutes, and 3. Member Schmidt seconded the motion. The
motion was approved 6-0.