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Home My WebLink AboutADRIAN ODP - 42-03B - MINUTES/NOTES - CORRESPONDENCE-NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGt tAw44;k'els Q�e wG ctntC.k. W� M i WU - a MCI4k WS Jr -4v NEIGH$ORHOOD INFORMATION MEETING Written N YouUfieation of this meeting? drr ares:. Name Address Zip Yes N,o/ Yes No �70c) co o d v / o L Z2�j 2 co LSQ- V .Jo►-►ti ADP43 -� W V f N6 � CCU -A ►,�co ✓ S m�VV'A/% 3Zu �. i.Mpu�� c�.(o►�,�5 �doSz) tV CF`f U1 : 1'ss � kiWcdetl Pei NEIGHBORHOOD INFORMATION MEETING for Meeting Attendees: Please sign this sheet. The information will be used to update the project mailing list and confirm attendance at neighborhood meetings. contact the Yiannmg Impartment (221-675U) if you wish to receive minutes of this meeting. Did You Receive Written NotificationAddress? of this meeting? correct Name Address Zip Yes No Yes No JAB P NK)U40- /Y3s w z911A 5T PMW CiVLl FdbuCE4 Z-cVE2Anr> Cb So!� CD 3� `ray �5 -z.,2.) 1.3• C01(-*� o 30SZ �IYrC - V&Tr 27,3 N. Ca��C�: AV:-: S Fo T /_y q h e'-v z4 NA Ste ve N ,Co(os 124e.e q� / I-). IMPALA DalV& F,R COLCO oS21 Y, eu I 150► A dv Khox 2 301 W. Vine CDD//hs�'D SOS �S es SD/ PkinS (b_y/_74 4_4 e lies(o im)I 11�-ALL I Smoke I-F f! !Y ?AYttIv 52s Al, TM rAl--A k3f FC Cyi Fc5,� r '\ jro,,oc� ✓�i. f�sz� \ z. �`� �� [ r Lo�� 6SZ1 HNpy CMSOL Yt54TP,5 7179. ILLCf�GS-T-PR,-r.Co�► Co . s X �Z-Sp \ *p5� i°d a✓ra e to S� 27. Comment: (Maurice Head, City Affordable Housing Planner) The price point to make this project work as affordable is about $200,000 per home. Response: (Mika) Torgerson, M. Torgerson Architects) The applicant thinks that the 8 new dwelling units, as proposed, is necessary. 28. Comment: (Mikal Torgerson, M. Torgerson Architects) We are considering doing an overall development plan (ODP) for the Adrian property so that we would not have to subdivide and plat the entire property at this time. With this ODP we may be able to eliminate the one new lot fronting on West Vine Drive, just to the east of the existing residence. Is this a step in the right direction? Response: Keep the house fronting on Vine Drive and lose the one at the south end of the property, next to the proposed detention pond. [. W 21. Question: Why is Section 3.5.1 in the City's Land Use Code being overlooked to accommodate this affordable housing project? Answer: (Steve Olt, City Planner) It is not being, and will not be, overlooked. City staff must evaluate the development request on all applicable criteria and standards in the Land Use Code and, ultimately, their recommendation to the decision -maker must address Section 3.5.1, based on their interpretation and evaluation of the Code. This section deals with architectural character, building size, privacy considerations, building materials and colors, and land use transition. 22. Comment: (Troy Jones, M. Torgerson Architects) Troy discussed the existing tree situation on the property and explained how, by possibly eliminating the proposed new lot fronting West Vine Drive, many existing significant trees could be preserved. 23. Comment: This all looks and sounds like an issue of private property rights versus compatibility. 24. Comment: Line up 4 lots from east to west on this property and we will leave you alone. 25. Question: Will the homes have basements? Answer: The soils report indicates that basements may be possible. 26. Question: What is absolutely the minimum number of lots that could be developed as "affordable" on this property? Answer: (Mikal Torgerson, M. Torgerson Architects) That is not an easy question to give an absolute answer to. We think that the number of lots proposed is our bottom line. 5 14 15 16 17 19 9M Question: What are the procedures for changing a floodplain or removing land from a floodplain? Answer: (Wes Lamarque, City Stormwater Utility) Those are hard to do. In the City it requires a capital improvement project. Question: Is the City going to implement West Vine Drive improvements? Answer: (Wes Lamarque, City Stormwater Utility) Yes, over time they will be. Comment: The on -site detention will minimize flooding by concentrating storm water and releasing it at a slower rate than it does now. Question: What about snow removal on Impala Drive? Answer: The section of North Impala Drive along the west side of this property has been annexed into the City of Fort Collins. It will be maintained (including snow removal) by the City. Comment: Because the proposed private drive in this development is partially on some lots that makes the lots smaller. Response: The private drive is in an easement, not right-of-way, on some of the lots. This is permitted by the City's Land Use Code and does not minimize the size of the lots under the required 6,000 square feet. Comment: This development is definitely not compatible with surrounding homes and lot sizes. Question: Will the existing curb & gutter along the front of my property on the west side of Impala Drive be replaced? Answer: That is still being reviewed by City staff. 0 8. Question: Will the detention pond be fenced top protect it from children? Answer: No, it will not. Detention ponds throughout the City do not collect and retain water for a long period of time. They are designed to collect water during a storm and hold it for a short period of time after the storm, releasing it into the storm sewer or drainage system at a prescribed rate. 9. Question: Would it not be easier to just put 3 lots on this property, not have to build detention, and be in character with the neighborhood? Answer: First of all, on -site detention would be required even for 3 lots; second, only 3 lots would not be economically feasible, especially for an affordable project. 10. Comment: Then don't develop this property. 11. Question: Has the field north of this property (north of Vine Drive) been designated as a floodplain area? Answer: (Wes Lamarque, City Stormwater Utility) We are not sure about the area north of West Vine Drive. Development on this property will have no effect on property to the north of Vine Drive. Please check with Susan Hayes, the City's floodplain administrator, about this. She can be reached at 416-2233. 12. Comment: You can go to the City's website, at www.fcgov.com, to access floodplain maps. They would be available at either the Stormwater Utility or Geographic Information Systems (GIS) site. 13. Comment: We have concerns about this development leading to other development in the area. 3 E �3 0 5 A 7 Comment: This development cannot dump into Impala Drive, which is an HOA-maintained road. We would have to bear the cost of storm water impacts on the road. Response: Apparently Lorimer County has not yet accepted the responsibility for the maintenance of Impala Drive. However, the street is still dedicated to Lorimer County for public use and if the necessary improvements are made to the street then it is possible that storm water can be released into it. Question: Why not pipe the storm water under Impala Drive and take it to Cherry Street? Answer: The feasibility of that occurring can be looked at. Comment: (Susan Joy, City Engineering) Lorimer County could, at any time, take over the responsibility for maintenance of Impala Drive and make improvements to the street. Comment: (Wes Lamarque, City Stormwater Utility) This development must detain and change the release rate from the property into the Impala Drive and go to Cherry Street. Stormwater will review information to see if the drainage for this development works. Question: How will the storm water on this property be directed from east to west? Answer: The site will be graded to create drainage flows going to the west. Question: Will the runoff from the roofs of the houses go to the street? Answer: Yes, it will. 2 Community Planning and Environmental Services Current Planning City of Fort Collins PROJECT: DATE: APPLICANT & CONSULTANT: CITY PLANNER NEIGHBORHOOD INFORMATION MEETING Adrian Subdivision, Located @ the Southeast Corner of West Vine Drive and North Impala Drive August 12, 2004 M. Torgerson Architects c/o Mikal Torgerson & Troy Jones Steve Olt The applicants are proposing a 9-lot single-family detached residential project on about 2.0 acres located at the southeast corner of West Vine Drive and North Impala Drive. The property is in the RL - Low Density Residential Zoning District. ................. QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS, RESPONSES ................. 1. Comment: This property drains into Impala Drive. The residents in the neighborhood along Impala Drive own the road in front of our houses. Response: The storm water flows will be collected at the south end of the project and be directed into Impala Drive. Also, the residents along Impala Drive do not own the street. It is a street dedicated to Larimer County for public use. If Larimer County has not yet accepted responsibility for the maintenance of Impala Drive then the Homeowner's Association (HOA) is responsible for the maintenance. That could change at any time. 1 281 North College Avenue • PO. Box 580 • Fort Collins, CO 80522-0580 • (970) 221-6750 • FAX (970) 416-2020 Community Planning and Environmental Services Current Planning City of Fort Collins September 3, 2004 Dear Resident, As per your request, enclosed you will find a copy of the recorded questions, comments, concerns, and responses from the Neighborhood Meeting held on August 12, 2004, for the proposed Adrian Property residential project to be located at the southeast corner of West Vine Drive and North Impala Drive. Please be advised that the developers/applicants have submitted plans to the City to initiate a development review process for Adrian Subdivision, Project Development Plan. The submittal occurred on July 13, 2004, and it is qualified as an affordable housing project. City staff does not send out letters to affected property owners to notify them of a development proposal when it has been submitted to the City for review. It is recommended that potentially affected property owners call this office periodically to see if a development request has been submitted. I encourage you to review these questions, comments, concerns, and responses thoroughly for completeness and accuracy. Please contact me at (970)221-6341 or by e-mail at so/t@fcgov.com if you find discrepancies or think that a point was not recorded. I look forward to hearing from you on this matter. Sincerely, Stephen Olt, City Planner 281 North College Avenue • PO. Box 580 • Fort Collins, CO 80522-0580 • (970) 221-6750 • FAX (970) 416-2020