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and the LUC.
I thank you in advance for your prompt attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
Mikal Torgerson
M. Torgerson Architects
CC: Cameron Gloss, Pete Wray, Felix Lee, Mike Gebo
Step 8 goes on to explain "an application for a Building Permit shall be
reviewed for compliance with the site specific development plan, " or in
other words, a Building Permit application will be reviewed for
compliance with the PDP approval.
We urgently request that you, as your role as the "Director," clarify to
the staff planner that the additional submittal requirement of "floor
plans" is not requested by the "Director" in this case. To that end, all
that that should be required at the PDP level of review (on the issue of
mezzanines) is a note on the site plan that the building is a 3 story
building. The plans reviewers and the zoning department will ensure
during the building permit review that the building qualifies as such
(in accordance with both the UBC and LUC), or they won't issue a
building permit. It is premature and overkill to get into this level of
detail at this point in the review. The Cortina project is a perfect
example of this issue. The recorded PDP documents label the building as
a 6-story building, specify the quantity of building square footage, and
show building elevations. No floor plans were required for the review,
even though that project also has mezzanines. The Building and Zoning
Department reviewed the building permit application for compliance with
the PDP, and the building now complies, mezzanines and all.
The reason it is so important to avoid floor plan review at the PDP
stage of review is that the design of buildings of this magnitude (as
was the case in Cortina too) get refined gradually as a project goes
through the various stages of design development. If floor plans become
part of the PDP approval, the needed flexibility to refine them is lost.
For instance, we need to wait to involve the mechanical engineer, the
structural engineer and the HVAC consultants until we know that our
building program is approved through the PDP. Any of the input of these
consultants might require the need for the floor plans to change
somewhat, and we need the flexibility to do so. Also, we need the
flexibility to adapt floor plans of any of the units based on
preferences of the buyers. The exact configuration of our mezzanines
is related to the floor plan design, not the building exterior, and not
PDP related issues. There really isn't a reason to make a building
permit issue into it a PDP issue. It really seems that our planner just
doesn't trust the Building and Zoning Department to ensure that our
mezzanines qualify as such, and our building story count is consistent
with an approved PDP. Being a local architect, I have worked many times
with the Building and Zoning staff, and I can assure you, they are
extremely competent and capable of this level of review, and much more
equipped, I would argue, to make this determination than the planning staff.
So in summary, I request that you give some immediate attention to this
issue, and that you give formal direction (prior to our hearing) to our
Current Planner that:
* no floor plans are needed for the PDP,
* a note on the site plan indicating that the building is 3 stories
will suffice for the PDP review, and
* the Building and Zoning Department will ensure that the building
is designed as a 3 story building by ensuring that the mezzanines
are designed as true mezzanines in accordance with both the UBC
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From: Mikal Torgerson <mikal@architex.com>
To: <gbyrne@fcgov.com>, ""Cameron Gloss" ; pwray@fcgov.com;
flee@fcgov.com; mgebo@fcgov.com" <cgloss@fcgov.com>
Date: 09/08/2005 12:45:00 AM
Subject: Urgent Cherry Street Station issue
Greg Byrne
Director of Community Planning & Environmental Services
281 North College Ave.
Fort Collins, CO 80524
September 7, 2005
Dear Greg,
Significant issues have been raised relative to the Cherry Street
Station PDP in the last 32 hours. We were informed at 4:40 p.m. on
Tuesday this week that our planner just realized that our PDP doesn't
meet LUC requirements with regard to the design of our mezzanines. We
are going to hearing on the project at 6:30 p.m. on Thursday. We regret
the urgency of the need for a response to this issue, but we were only
notified of the perceived problem 49.5 hours before the hearing.
The bottom line of our problem is that our planner is attempting to
prematurely review an element of our project during the PDP stage of
review that is clearly an item, clarified in the LUC, to be reviewed at
the time of the building permit review. Our planner has required floor
plans (which we submitted to her in July) in order to review that the
design of our mezzanines are designed appropriately in order for the
building to qualify as a 3-story building. We are perplexed because we
have never heard of the interior of a building being reviewed for PDP
submittals. It is important to look at section 2.4.2(C) Step 3 of the
LUC that states that the submittal requirements for a PDP are listed in
the "development application submittal master list." This master list
doesn't mention floor plans, however it does give the "Director" the
authority to request additional information as deemed necessary.
We point out that there's no need for the "Director" to request this
additional information, because mezzanines are regulated by the Uniform
Building Code, not the Land Use Code. The UBC has a definition for
mezzanine, and has an entire section devoted to describing the
circumstances by which a mezzanine can be counted as a story (1997 UBC
Section 507). The only reference the LUC has to mezzanines is in
3.8.17(A)(2) Building Height Measured in Stories, where it states "a
balcony or mezzanine shall be counted as a full story when its floor
area is in excess of one-third of the total floor area of the nearest
full floor directly below it." A note on the site plan should be all
that is necessary to ensure that the project will comply with this Land
Use Code language.
This point is further clarified in section 2.7(C) Step 3(C) of the LUC
states that "an application for Building Permit shall include all items,
materials and document that are required by the adopted Uniform Building
Code." This would include floor plans. Additionally, section 2.7.3(H)