HomeMy WebLinkAboutCOLUMBINE EAST LONG TERM CARE - PDP - 11-05 - DECISION - MINUTES/NOTESPlanning and Zoning Board Minutes
June 16, 2005
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Member Schmidt seconded the motion
The motion was approved 6-0.
Project: Greeley Waterline Enhancement Transmission
Project — Site Plan Advisory Review, /tovide
Proj ct Description: Request to construct the Fort Collins
60-inch diameter water transmission ladditional water transmission capacitBellvue Water Treatment Plant to theGreeley's treated water distribution s
Recommendation's, Approval
Member Torgerson conflicteA out on this item.
Anne Aspen, City Planner gave a Staff Presenta ' n recommending approval. This is
a proposal fora 60-inch diameter p' eline that i ntirely underground and will run from
the Bellvue Water Treatment to Gree s wa r treatment distribution system. About
nine miles of that is within the city of Fo lins. Staff has been asked to do a site plan
advisory review. Staff has not found an tal flaws in terms of location, character and
extent and staff is recommending ap val.
Tom Boyle, Boyle Engineering s ted that the maRbeing shown is the overall project
map from the viewpoint of the ity of Greeley. It is tually a 30 mile pipeline that will
run from their treatment pl north of Bellvue all the y down in through the city of
Greeley. At this point th have constructed about two d a half miles in Windsor and
they are currently un construction for about seven mile between Windsor and
Timnath. The piec in Fort Collins is what they are studying ow and is what is before
the Board right w.
Mr. Boyle showed a schematic drawing that showed the process th=ty
through ' order to find the preferred route they are at today.
Mr. oyle reported that last night they had their public hearing with and
reived approval of the location and extent on the project. They also have t it
Gveband delineation agreement with the Corp of Engineers. From that they inten to
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Mr. Gauspohl replied that they have done a couple of things on the east side of the
property line. The first is that they have landscape buffer there and there are a number
of trees. The second is that there is currently a fence there and it is in pretty rough
condition and it is a wood fence. They will be replacing it with a solid masonry fence,
that was one of the requests from the neighbors and light and noise will not be able to
get through that fence because it will be solid masonry.
Member Craig asked why they did not put in any evergreen trees because that would
also give a visual buffer also year round.
Mr. Gauspohl replied that was likely a function to their proximity to the fence. With a
deciduous tree you get a canopy above the fence and there was not the space to put
evergreens.
Member Craig asked if there would be a problem with it branching out onto their
properties.
Mr. Gauspohl replied that was what the neighbors would like for it to branch out over the
fence.
Chairperson Meyer asked Planner Olt to speak to the traffic on the Oakridge project.
Planner Olt responded that he would ask Matt Delich who is the traffic engineer for the
project to address the question.
Matt Delich, 2272 Glen Haven Drive, Loveland stated that he did both traffic studies for
the Oakridge Senior Community as well as the Columbine East facility. He stated that
the trip generation from both these types of facilities is very low compared to other uses
that can go into this area. For example in the Oakridge area, it is in an area that was
formerly going to be a business park. The traffic from that particular use would be
tremendously higher than what the senior community would generate. As far as the
speed on the streets, that is more of an enforcement issue. The traffic from this use,
the Oakridge senior community is not likely that they would drive any faster than anyone
else on those streets or the people who live on those streets. Mr. Delich reported that
for both of the projects all the key intersections that were analyzed acceptably met all
the criteria for the city of Fort Collins.
Member Carpenter moved for approval of the Columbine East Long Term Care
Facility, PDP, #11-05 based on the findings of fact and conclusions in the staff
report.
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not speak to the Oakridge project. The traffic impacts can be accommodated by the
existing facilities at the intersections.
Chairperson Meyer asked the applicant to speak about the ambulances.
Yvonne Meyers, Columbine Health Systems replied that obviously they are going to call
the ambulance. It is a nursing home and more of the residents of a nursing home are at
the end stages of their lives. They have given up full code status and calling for
paramedics to save their lives. They do more hospice care. They don't call as many
ambulances for nursing homes as they do assisted living. The properties around them
that were referred to are assisted living and those folks are more able to get around and
about and still want to resuscitated and taken to the hospital. What they have found is
that the ambulances as they get closer and know it is a nursing home they are not
coming with all the lights as if she would call for an ambulance and as they get closer
they turn them off.
Chairperson Meyer asked Ms. Meyers to differentiate between assisted living and a
nursing home.
Ms. Meyers replied that people that live in assisted living, the requirement by the Health
Department for licensure is that you cannot be required to be lifted, you can still move
yourself about and you are still able to manage activities of daily living. People in
nursing homes need 24 hour skilled nursing care by a nurse.
Member Schmidt commented that her parents live at the Worthington and her
grandmother was in the assisted living facility, so they have been there for quite awhile.
The ambulance issue has not been a problem there and she even asked them when
she was there for lunch today if they have problems with ambulances. They told her
that they hear the police cars on Shields all the time and the train and trash trucks in the
morning, but no problem with ambulances. She felt that there would not be an increase
in ambulance noise.
When staff previously discussed the Oakridge project at worksession, there was not
really an issue with the density because it is allowable under the Code and also the
Board felt the setbacks from the ditch were within the correct allowable rules for this
development. That is why the Board felt they could put it on the consent agenda
because they had tried to buffer from the neighborhood. The nursing care facility will
have a lot less impacts on the neighborhood than the assisted living facility.
Member Craig asked the applicant to address the east side where they would be
impacting a couple of properties as far as what they did to mitigate the parking lot and
the fact that they are so close to their houses.
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the traffic moves on Harmony Road more so than on Lemay. What we are talking about
here is some interesting ideas that probably can and should be integrated into the
neighborhood and he liked that concept. He wondered how much additional traffic
these developments would bring to an already extremely congested and dangerous
area. He and his neighbors are concerned. There is a cut off that goes between Lemay
and Harmony on the south side of Harmony. The speed limit is 25 mph and the
average speed on that road which is a combination of Keenland and McMurry,
according to a recent study done by the Police Department is well in excess of that
speed limit. At least 15% of the traffic in that thoroughfare is exceeding 38 mph.
Maureen Pachini 1437 Last Oak Ct. spoke to the Board and stated that she also there
to discuss Item 6 because her house backs to that development proposal. She stated
that the Rule Drive property they walk by also all the time. She had sent a letter into the
Planning Board expressing their concern with the density that is going in in those areas
and the ambulances. They already have so many nursing home type facilities in
Oakridge and around that area and if you live in that area, you see and hear
ambulances all the time. The addition of two more facilities is of concern to those who
live in that area. Another concern is that it is a family neighborhood and if you put
elderly people in an area like that they might not like the family environment, they are
probably trying to get away from it and live in a senior area. Ms. Pachini was also
concerned with the traffic on the streets and bike trails and if you add elderly to that
scenario it could be very dangerous for them. She was not sure because number 6 was
not even addressed how much of the concerns of some of the neighbors have been
addressed especially the density issue. She asked if number six was even on the
agenda.
Chairperson Meyer responded that it was twice asked if there was any input on number
six from anyone in Oakridge and no one came forward so it was moved to the consent
agenda.
PUBLIC INPUT CLOSED
Chairperson Meyer asked Planner Shepard to respond to traffic and density.
Planner Shepard replied that technically speaking on the traffic we could defer to the
applicant's traffic engineer to get the numbers and the data. Our indication at the staff
review level is that the clients of the nursing home don't generate traffic and that the
traffic generated is from the employees. The employees are divided among three shifts.
The operational aspects of Lemay and Rule do not require a traffic signal as a result of
this project. The stop sign at Rule and Wheaton will remain a stop condition for Rule.
Everything seems to operate acceptably as a result of this particular project. He could
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Member Schmidt moved to approve consent agenda items 1, 2, and 6.
Member Craig seconded the motion.
Member Torgerson commented on the Sunstone M' - se Item and he noticed that
there is a requirement in the Land Use C a utilities and mechanical units be
screened from public view. Thi icular Center does not even come close to
complying. However, t m before the Board is separate from that. There are very
large air condi ' g units along Timberline Road that are terribly unsightly.
motion was approved 6-0.
Project: Columbine East Long Term Care Facility, Project
Development Plan, #11-05
Project Description: Request for a 131-bed long term care facility (nursing
home) to be located on the site of the Rule Farm at
4824 South Lemay Avenue. The new building would
be two -stories in height and contain 88,000 s.f. The
existing house, barn and other out buildings would be
removed. The property is zoned HC, Harmony
Corridor.
Hearing Testimony, Written Comments and Other Evidence:
Ted Shepard gave the staff presentation recommending approval.
Mark Gauspohl, from Vaught -Frye Architects gave the applicant presentation. He gave
a background of the project being on the Rule Farm. He informed the board about
access from Rule Drive and Lemay Avenue and the only traffic would be visitors and
staff during the day and staff at night and that entrance would be off of Lemay Avenue.
The small amount of traffic would be during the daylight hours. He spoke of the design
of the building and things that have been done to reduce the scale of the building,
elevations, color, and screening of the mechanical units, landscaping, and location of
courtyards, pedestrian access and circulation. They feel that they building will be an
asset to the neighborhood and the neighbors will be very happy with it.
PUBLIC INPUT
Bill Milliken,1500 Redberry Court in Oakridge stated that he was hoping to come and
hear something about Item 6 on the agenda, but this item is in similar and in the same
area. Mr. Milliken asked if anyone is looking at the traffic situation. The speed in which
Council Liaison: Karen Weitkunat
Chairperson: Judy Meyer
Vice Chair: Dave Lingle
Staff Liaison: Cameron Gloss
Phone: (W) 490-2172
Phone: (W) 223-1820
Chairperson Meyer called the meeting to order at 6:50 p.m.
Roll Call: Carpenter, Stockover, Torgerson, Craig, Schmidt, Meyer. Member
Lingle was absent.
Staff Present: Wray, Eckman, Shepard, Olt, Aspen, Wray, Herzig, Harridan,
Wamhoff and Deines.
Citizen Participation: None.
Director of Current Planning Pete Wray reviewed the Consent and Discussion Agendas:
Consent Agenda:
1. Resolution PZ05-06 — Easement Vacation.
2. Resolution PZ05-07 — Easement Vacation.
3. Resolution PZ05-08 — Easement Dedication.
4. #25-05 Sunstone Mixed -Use Center, Addition of a Restaurant Use (Mugs
Coffee Shop) — Major Amendment.
5. #22-05 Habitat Palm Drive — Project Development Plan
Discussion Agenda:
6. # 13-82CW Oakridge Business Park, 38th Filing (Oakridge Senior Campus) -
Project Development Plan.
7. #11-05 Columbine East Long -Term Care Facility — Project Development
Plan.
8. #21-05 Greeley Waterline Enhancement Transmission Project (G-Wet) —
Site Plan Advisory Review.
Member Craig moved to move Item 6, Oakridge Business Park, 38th Filing
(Oakridge Senior Campus) to the Consent Agenda.
Member Torgerson seconded the motion. The motion was approved 6-0.