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17. Question: Could the entire lot be subdivided and more buildings
added?
Answer: From what I know at this meeting, with the existing
buildings in place, there is not enough frontage for an
additional lot to be created to the east of the B&B along
Mountain. I suppose the lot is large enough that the B&B
and other buildings could be razed and the entire site
replatted and redeveloped like is happening at Frey Street
Cottages, but that is very hypothetical --we usually only see it
when the existing buildings are in serious disrepair like was
the case with the house that was on the Frey Street Cottages
site. The owners have never mentioned any such intentions.
If that were to ever happen, the proposal would go through
this same development review process and you would be
invited to a neighborhood meeting and the hearing.
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stretch between this frontage and the Frey Street Cottages
frontage that would not be paved without an SID (Special
Improvement District) which would likely become a
nuisance.
There also needs to be a nexus between the public
improvement and the development that triggers the
improvement. Because the owners would be on the hook for
paving the entire width of the road, the cost of paving would
be disproportionate to the cost of the new residence. The
money for the future improvement has been escrowed by the
owner. In the future, if the escrow is not enough to cover the
future cost, the city would have to come up with the shortfall
amount through its capital improvement funds.
13. Comment: We have had a very good experience with the Frey Street
Cottage development because the developer shared his
contact info with us and when we had questions or concerns
we could call him and talk it over with him. If you would
you consider doing the same, we would appreciate it.
(Dwight gave his card to residents after the meeting.)
14. Question: What is the difference between an alley house and a carriage
house? Can it be subdivided onto its own lot?
Answer: For the purposes of development review, they're
interchangeable names for the same thing. Carriage houses
must be on the same lot as the principal building. They
cannot be subdivided onto their own lots.
15. Question: Will the smaller garage on the side remain?
Answer: Yes.
16. Question: Will Tara (one of the current innkeepers) live there?
Answer: No, Tara lives in her own home in town with her family as
does the other current innkeeper. The owners had another
innkeeper who lived in the B&B who had to migrate from
room to room. This new residence would allow an innkeeper
to live onsite much more easily. Until such a time as they
have another resident innkeeper, the owners intend to stay
there when they are in town.
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nicer than the main building.
8. Question: Will the increased cave height modification increase the
allowable height and mass of the building?
Answer: Yes, some, though it will allow this building to match the
roof pitch and architecture of the main building and allow a
livable amount of residential space. This building will be
shorter than the main building. A steeper pitched roof
would really limit the useable space above the existing
garage and wouldn't really fit into the architecture of the
neighborhood. The hearing officer is the final decision -
maker on the modifications, but my staff recommendation
will be approval.
9. Comment: I like that the RV door will be changed to a regular -sized
door. That will be a big improvement.
10. Question: A couple of neighbors that aren't present have had concerns
about the flood lights on the existing garage. Will those
change with the addition?
Answer: Yes, we have lighting standards that apply to any new
development, including changes of use such as this one.
New light fixtures will need to be down -directional and fully
shielded. They might still have a light at the garages but the
element won't be visible —the light will be directed straight
down. They might also have a light at the front door.
11. Question: When will this project start construction and will there be
any street closures associated with it?
Answer: (Jennifer): If approved, construction would begin in January.
There will be no street closures associated with the project.
12. Question: Will this project trigger the paving of Frey Street?
Answer: After a lengthy discussion of the issue with the City's
engineers, where I represented the diversity of concerns that
the neighbors have on either side of the argument, it was
determined that this project, even added to the change of use
of the main building would not trigger paving. It was close,
but some of the reasons for not paving include the short
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back residence unless the new owner proposed a change of
use to one of the other permitted uses in the NCL zone district.
If they chose, the property could be converted to a single-
family house with a carriage house. In this hypothetical case,
the carriage house could be rented out.
2. Question: Could the inn be turned into a boarding house in the future?
Answer: No, boarding houses are not a permitted use in the NCL—
Neighborhood Conservation, Low Density District.
3. Question: Could someone apply for some sort of variance to make it a
boarding house?
Answer: No. Modifications cannot be made to the uses permitted in a
zone district. That is part of the reason we adopted the more
prescriptive Land Use Code —to provide more predictability
on what is allowed in which zone districts and what is not
allowed.
4. Question: Is the Inn listed on the Historic Register?
Answer: No. The original building was modified many times with
additions and exterior changes so it lost any historical
significance it may have once had. Neighbors: it used to be a
truck depot. Underneath it all it's a funky 50's house where
Opal Bateman used to live.
5. Comment: I am frustrated that the folks who bought the inn for too
much and that that had the effect of raising my property
values.
6. Comment: The parcel was mislabeled on the map that was sent out.
Also, some did not receive the mailing.
Response: That was an oversight on our part. My apologies. We will
correct that before the mailing goes out for the hearing.
Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Jennifer and I will
also look at the mailing labels and see what's going on with
them and correct if needed before the hearing mailing goes
out.
7. Comment: The elevations look better than I thought they would! It looks
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iiA Planning and Zoning
City of Fort Collins
NEIGHBORHOOD INFORMATION MEETING
PROJECT: Innkeeper's residence for the Inn at City Park, 1734 W.
Mountain, an accessory structure with habitable space
DATE: November 28, 2007
APPLICANT: Dwight Sailer, Jennifer Lilley, High Craft Builders
CITY PLANNER: Anne Aspen
The Applicant is proposing an adaptive reuse of the garage that faces Frey St.
into an approximately 600sf carriage house for the innkeeper.
The meeting started at about 6:35pm. All questions are from neighbors.
Answers are by Anne Aspen unless otherwise noted.
QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS, RESPONSES
1. Question: If this property changes hands (or even if it doesn't) is it
possible that this unit could be turned into a rental unit?
(This was a concern raised by a few attendees.)
Answer: Yes, it is possible. The present owners have not indicated
any interest in renting it. At this point, they have innkeepers
who live in their own homes in town but their previous
innkeeper had to move from guest house to guest house
while working. They want to have a residence available for
an onsite innkeeper as an incentive. Until such time as they
need it for a resident innkeeper, the carriage house will be
used only by the owners when they are in town.
After the meeting and a bit more research. I found out that we
can require that the development plan specify that this
residence be used for the operator or guests only to prohibit its
use as a rental by this owner. If the property changed hands,
it would continue to be a B&B use with that restriction on the
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