HomeMy WebLinkAboutFOSSIL CREEK 392 - ANNEXATION & ZONING - 32-09 - DECISION - MINUTES/NOTESPlanning & Zoning Board
November 19, 2009
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Chair Schmidt asked how the scenario plays out if 2-3 weeks is not enough time for a study that is very
detailed. Leavitt said he'd continue with his comments. Director Dush said for the normal process, if
they submitted an ECS without sufficient information; Leavitt would make a comment that he needs "x, y
and z." The applicant would then provide the information to update the ECS. Dush said the purpose of
the recommended condition was to identify the constraints early on in the development design process.
Member Rollins said doesn't every discipline have to submit a report to the City, e.g., traffic impact study.
You'd be under the same constraints to look at that study and evaluate it within the time period that's set
forth. She asked do you not scope out what you need to see in an ECS prior to them beginning work on
it. Leavitt said yes if they come in. Rollins said that would be the reason why she couldn't support the
condition but she could support the annexation. She said that used to be an issue with traffic impact
studies but now before you do anything you have to have a form that's completed and signed by the City
Traffic Engineer that says he's scoped out the study. They use to get studies that were just guesses of
what somebody wanted. She said perhaps a tool like that would be beneficial. That should be worked
out in a process change and not this one project.
Member Campana said yes, it's just like performing a survey of the site (elevations or geographic
conditions) prior to doing your design. In the past, perhaps people have come forth with the ECS and
PDP putting pressure on staff due to the money they had already spent. What Rollins is talking about
makes more sense.
Chair Schmidt said what she is hearing is that there is an issue to be resolved but she doesn't know if
this condition works the best for the developer and the City in this case. The Board will review a policy
change in work session. It could result in a Land Use Code change that would apply to everyone.
Member Smith made a motion to recommend the City Council approval of the Fossil Creek 392
Annexation and Zoning, # 32-09 and in support of his motion he adopts the findings of fact and
conclusion on page 4 of the Staff Report:
1. The annexation of this area is consistent with the policies and agreements between
Larimer County and the City of Fort Collins contained in the Intergovernmental Agreement
for the Fort Collins Urban Growth Area. The request is in conformance with the City of
Fort Collins Comprehensive Plan, the City of Fort Collins Land Use Code, the Fossil Creek
Reservoir Area Plan, the City of Fort Collins and Town of Windsor Intergovernmental
Agreement, and the 1-25/SH 392 Interchange Improvement Plan.
2. The area meets the eligibility requirements included in State law to qualify for a voluntary
annexation to the City of Fort Collins.
3. On November 3, 2009, the City Council approved a resolution that accepted the annexation
petition and determined that the petition was in compliance with State law. The resolution
also initiated the annexation process for the property by establishing the date, time and
place when a public hearing would be held regarding the readings of the Ordinances
annexing and zoning the area.
4. The requested C - Commercial Zoning District is in conformance with the policies of the
City's Comprehensive Plan.
Member Carpenter seconded the motion. The motion was passed 7:0.
Chair Schmidt noted the project was approved without the condition so hopefully we'll be seeing changes
to the Land Use Code related to ECS submittal requirements.
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and reward for the developer. As staff said, the City's stance at conceptual review is these are the things
you should do. Stockover said we need to stick to the plan as it exists today. We're trying to change the
plan for one piece of property.and we're doing that in haste. As he thinks through what's proposed, even
with a 30 day ECS pre -submittal; he just doesn't see how it helps the developer.
Deputy City Attorney Eckman said that's a point well taken. He said for the case being considered
tonight, the condition should be revised to read, A Comprehensive Ecological Characterization Study
must be prepared by a qualified consultant and submitted to the City at least 30 days for review prior to
the submittal of any application for approval of a Project Development Plan." You could submit it prior to
that, e.g. 60 days before. He said in consultation with Director Dush, there should also be an "outside"
period. We wouldn't want one submitted 10 years before because as was mentioned conditions could
change. He said we need to have an actual window such as not more than one year but at least 30 days.
Member Stockover said it's his feeling that this applicant already knows the wetlands are an issue so he
thinks, in his opinion, we should just drop it. He thinks we should review the policy change in work
session. He doesn't think we need to act in haste tonight.
Member Carpenter asked if there was something now that prevents the developer from bringing in an
ECS prior to his PDP review. Director Dush said no. There have been cases that we'd done reviews on
an informal basis. By staff suggesting this condition now it just provides that level of certainty for any
individual that comes in. Should the property be sold, it puts them on notice that an ECS is required at
least 30 days prior to the PDP submittal. Carpenter said she's feeling pretty much the way Stockover is.
She does think it's something we need to discuss but we need to discuss it in a work session to figure
out how we're going to go forward on a policy and let these people do what we've laid out for them as our
current policy.
Member Rollins said she also agrees with Stockover. She's concluded from work session discussion
that the current policy may not be working so we need to work on that. The current property owner is
aware of the situation. She thinks we should not require it for this one project. It should be changed at a
policy level and not for this one project.
Member Lingle said he'd disagree. He said we'd be changing it on this one project with the
recommended condition. Current policy is they can submit any time. He thinks in fairness it should not
be an open ended requirement. He doesn't believe the City will do this but if not outlined clearly the
developer could be waiting 6 months. He thinks the 30 day requirement gives everyone a little protection
including the developer who will get the assurance that it would not be unnecessarily delayed.
Chair Schmidt asked if currently there is no prescribed timeline in which ECSs are reviewed. If there are
a large number of projects, could it take 6 months to complete a review? Leavitt said right now the
limiting factor is when a PDP is submitted and review comments are.due (2-3 weeks.) Most of the times
he's aware when there are issues with a site. However, there is time that's its not submitted until the
PDP.
Member Campana said there's a time limit right now. If you submit your ECS with your PDP you have 2-
3 weeks to get comments back to the applicant. Olt said correct; if there are environmental issues
related to the proposed development that needs to be stated with the first round of comments 3 weeks
after submittal. Campana asked Lingle if that satisfies his concerns —we've put an end bracket on the
time frame. Lingle said the condition is that it'd have to be submitted prior to the PDP. Carpenter said
we don't have to agree to the condition. Campana said what some members are suggesting is that we
remove the condition and deal with that policy issue in a work session setting.
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He said the Board's raised a good point —when do you bring it in. Is the onus on the City once we bring
it in to get it approved within a certain period of time? That should all be a part of the policy that needs to
be addressed.
Gilleland recognizes that normally a flag gets waved when you see a visual of a potential environmental
concern. He'd like to caution is environmental impact is not just visual. He used an example of a
development he was working with in Scottsbluff, NE in which a farmer had dumped diesel oil into the
ground over many years. It was not visible but there was enough intuitive experience of the
environmental team to determine a problem. His recommendation is the City considers a policy that puts
everyone on an even keel. He said they are an environmentally conscious group and want to preserve
the natural wetlands area and debate through the ECS what is not natural wetlands.
Public Input:
David Feuer is a property owner adjacent to the land in question. He said he had a couple of questions.
If this annexation occurs, what studies will be done to determine the impact on the neighboring
community? He also wanted to know about the wetlands. He understands that it's similar to a flood
plain and there's a geographic area that's going to have a certain amount of water content that will vary
by season and that'd most likely assess it at the high point.
Chair Schmidt said once the annexation and zoning is established, the developer can bring in a plan that
meets zoning requirements. At that point, there a number of standards considered when evaluating a
development proposal. Additionally, the neighbors would have a chance to participate/comment at a
neighborhood meeting level on the proposed development. Olt offered information on the development
review process. He said at this point, we are simply looking at the annexation and zoning (phase 1.) He
said we do not have any information to evaluate impact on his property at this juncture; that will occur
with the Project Development Plan (PDP) is submitted. .
Feuer said he's in favor of wise development of the land and he looks forward to well -planned growth.
He just wants to make sure what's done is done in a way that is environmentally and socially friendly.
Chair Schmidt suggested that if Mr. Feuer sees a development proposal sign, he does not hesitate to call
to make sure his name is on the list to get updates/notice of hearings. She said we notice property
owners within a certain distance but if you are outside that area you will not receive notice.
Public Input Closed
Board Citizen Response & Questions
Chair Schmidt asked what plans are being made to establish a policy relative to ECS submittals.
She'd also like to know when an ECS is triggered. Olt read Section 3.4.1(D)(1) stating an ECS must be
a part of any future PDP if the development site contains or is within 500 feet of a natural habitat or
feature, or if it is determined that the site likely include areas with wildlife, plant life and/or other natural
characteristics in need of protection.
Schmidt asked if we'll be changing the Code language to require submittal 30 days prior to a PDP
submittal. Director Dush said that's exactly what they've been talking about in the recent past —including
a meeting today related to the Riverwalk project. Dush said he thinks we need to take a look at a policy
change, how it's implemented, and timing of ECS submittals in relation to PDP submittals.
Member Stockover said if the ECS is submitted 30 days in advance and it takes 30 days to review that
doesn't give the developer much time to put together a development plan. He thinks this all goes to risk
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Director Dush said the intent is rather than wait until the applicant submit a formal preliminary
development plan, it's good planning to identify the constraints up front so that we can incorporate those
considerations into the design/development of the project. Staff spoke with the applicant at length on
November 18. The applicant did mention some of the same concerns and asked if other applications be
subject to the same requirement. Dush said his response was that if we had similarly situated
development applications, he can't imagine they wouldn't suggest the same condition. Dush said as a
matter of fact, the Board will be having a work session in March to talk about the timing of ECSs.
Because of the wetlands on the property, staff believes it would be prudent to have the ECS prior to the
PDP submittal —not unlike an easement or any other issue.
Olt said a conceptual review for property just across Carpenter Road to the north (along the east side of
the reservoir) has been set for Monday, November 23. He said they will also be requesting the applicant
complete an ECS prior to submittal of their PDP—they'd like to hold them to the same standard as this
project. Olt said relative to the timing of the review of the ECS, he'll ask Environmental Planner Dana
Leavitt to speak to that.
Member Smith, said because he's not familiar with the ECS process; could the applicant submit his ECS
one day prior to his PDP. Leavitt said the LUC requires an ECS to be completed, it does not state when it
has to be submitted. Historically, they've been submitted when the application comes in. He said in his
tenure, they've also come in ahead of time on an informal basis to define what the ECS is going to
require and to establish a schedule of the submittal and review. Proposed mitigation measures for
impacts of development are a part of the study. If you put the development before the proposed
mitigation measures you're getting a plan that most likely is not going to address any potential impact to
the natural resources —in this case the wetlands.
Member Smith asked if the mitigation method efforts differ based on what the PDP would be —the
intensity/type of development. His sense is they need to come simultaneously. Leavitt said you do have
an idea of what the development would be like but you don't have is a plan that shows, in this case,
development into the wetlands or within the buffer unless there's an agreement that's what's going to
happen.
Member Campana said that makes sense to have the ECS prior to the PDP being developed but is there
a time period that we can add to the condition. Leavitt said he would feel comfortable with 30 days
based on scheduling of projects. He would allow him time to inspect the site and work with the
consultant and allow them time to develop the site. Campana said he'd like to hear the applicant's
response to that.
Chair Schmidt said she had one question prior to going to the applicant. She's presuming the study gets
done, the PDP comes through and then the PDP expires. Would the study stand? Leavitt said it'd
depend upon environmental conditions —what changes on the site. It's based on a case -by -case basis
and would require going out to revisit the site. Campana said part of the confusion is the ECS is
independent of the PDP-what the conditions of the wetlands are, what needs to be mitigated, and then
what you design your PDP around. Campana said if your PDP changes, it shouldn't change your ECS.
Applicant's Presentation
Larry Gilleland, one of the owners of the property, said he had nothing to add other than their needs to
be a policy and that we shouldn't come up with new rules each time. He's not opposed to anything that
he's heard as far as the ECS delineating what would be a preserved area —not impacted by
development. They are aware there are some wetlands. They are not necessarily in agreement as to
the amount of naturally reoccurring wetlands. Hopefully the ECS will delineate what exists by "God's
hand" and what exists by "man's hand" and they can agree to mitigate to the degree that is acceptable.
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Recommendation: Staff recommends approval of the annexation and recommends that the property
be placed in the C - Commercial Zoning District.
Staff is recommending that this property not be included in the Residential
Neighborhood Sign District. A map amendment will be necessary to place this
property on the Residential Neighborhood Sign District Map as an "Area Not in the
Sign District".
Staff is recommending a condition of approval —"A Comprehensive Ecological
Characterization Study must be prepared by a qualified consultant and submitted
to the City for review prior to the submittal of any application for approval of a
Project Development Plan."
Hearinq Testimony, Written Comments and Other Evidence
Planner Steve Olt reported this is a voluntary request to annex and zone 28.9 acres located on the south
side of Carpenter Road (County Road 32), at the southwest corner of Interstate 25 & Carpenter Road.
The property is undeveloped and is in the AP - Airport District in Larimer County. The requested zoning
for this annexation is C - Commercial. The surrounding properties are currently zoned POL — Public
Open Lands in the City to the north, C — Commercial and T — Tourist in Larimer County to the north, AP -
Airport in Larimer County to the west and south, and C - Commercial in the Town of Windsor to the east.
The property is located within the Fort Collins Growth Management Area. According to policies and
agreements between the City of Fort Collins and Larimer County contained in the Intergovernmental
Agreement for the Fort Collins Urban Growth Area, the City will agree to consider annexation of property
in the UGA when the property is eligible for annexation according to State law. The property lies within
the Corridor Activity Center boundary in the 1-25/SH 392 Interchange Improvement Plan. It gains the
required 1/6 contiguity to existing City limits from a common boundary with the Fossil Creek Reservoir
Open Space Annexation (June, 2008) to the north.
Staff is recommending that the property be placed in the C — Commercial District, which is in
conformance with the City's Structure Plan, that this property not be included in the Residential
Neighborhood Sign District. A map amendment will be necessary to place this property on the
Residential Neighborhood Sign District Map as an "Area Not in the Sign District", and that it is approved
with the following condition: A Comprehensive Ecological Characterization Study must be prepared by a
qualified consultant and submitted to the City for review prior to the submittal of any application for
approval of a Project Development Plan."
Board Questions:
Member Lingle asked since we're striking "acceptance" to the original recommended condition, he's not
sure what the intent is for having it submitted ahead of the Project Development Plan (PDP) as opposed
to just being a part of the PDP. Olt said an Ecological Characterization Study (ECS) is required per LUC
Section 3.4.1(D) (1). Staff has determined it would be prudent to receive and review an ECS for the
subject property prior to an applicant/developer investing the time and expense of preparing a complete
PDP that may be subject to changes after review of the ECS. It could result in significant rounds of
review and would result in additional time and expense. They believe it would be beneficial to both the
.applicant/developer and the City to delineate the wetlands and the impact as they move into their
design/development. Lingle said he'd just be concerned "as the applicant" to have it so open ended —he
said you could submit for a review and it could be under review for up to a year with no resolution.
Chair Schmidt called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
Roll Call: Campana, Carpenter, Lingle, Rollins, Schmidt, Smith, and Stockover
Staff Present: Dush, Eckman, Olt, Shepard, Mapes, Wray, and Sanchez -Sprague
Agenda Review. Director Dush reviewed the agenda and requested the following consent items be
pulled for consideration:
1. Minutes from the October 15, 2009 Planning & Zoning Hearing
2. Fossil Creek 392 Annexation & Zoning, # 32-09
Citizen participation:
None
Consent Agenda:
None
Discussion Agenda:
1. Minutes from the October 15, 2009 Planning & Zoning Hearing
2. Fossil Creek 392 Annexation & Zoning, # 32-09
3. 1124 W. Mulberry Street — Addition of Permitted Use, # 34-09
4. North College Public Infrastructure Funding Plan
Member Lingle requested a change to page 4 of the minutes from the October 151h Hearing. The
condition included in the motion near the bottom of page 4 should be changed to read: A 4.5' sidewalk
shall be included in Phase 1 running the length of East Lake Street along the north property line of the
site.
Member Lingle moved to approve item # 1 October 15, 2009 minutes of the Planning and Zoning
Board Hearing as amended. Member Smith seconded the motion. The motion was approved 7:0.
Project: Fossil Creek 392 Annexation & Zoning, # 32-09
Project Description: This is a request to annex and zone 28.9 acres located on the south side of
Carpenter Road (County Road 32), at the southwest corner of Interstate 25 &
Carpenter Road. This is a 100% voluntary annexation. The property is
undeveloped and is in the AP - Airport District in Larimer County. The surrounding
properties are currently zoned POL — Public Open Lands in the City to the north, C
— Commercial and T — Tourist in Larimer County to the north, AP - Airport in
Larimer County to the west and south, and C - Commercial in the Town of Windsor
to the east. The requested zoning for this annexation is C - Commercial.