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Doug Martine
Electric Project Engineering Supervisor
(970)224-6152
dmartine@fcgov.com
Thanks,
Sarah
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The solution proposed in the AIS still does not meet the code because the spaces are not "off-street". Further,
Rolland Moore Drive is a public street and is classified as a collector street. Parking along Rolland Moore is not
considered part of the project parking, and could not be "identified and signed" for guests of an apartment
complex.
How will Staff address compliance with 3.2.2(D)(3)(b)?
The Land Use Code (LUC) does not require that any guest (aka visitor) parking spaces be provided. It just
requires that a minimum number of off-street spaces be provided based on bedrooms and that a minimum number
of handicap parking spaces be provided based on the total number of parking spaces, per Sections (3.2.2(Kxlxa)
and 3.2.2(K)(5)(d) of the LUC. Since guest parking isn't required, the developer doesn't have to designate any
guest spaces on the Site Plan; and, none have been designated. There will be recessed parallel parking spaces on
both sides of Rolland Moore Drive as it runs east — west through The Grove at Fort Collins development. The
parking spaces along Rolland Moore Drive, classified as a public collector street, will be available to residents
and guests of the adjacent buildings that they front. This is: a) the premise for consideration by staff during the
development review process; b) what is on the Project Development Plan (PDP) approved by the Planning &
Zoning Board; and, c) what is on the PDP approved by City Council with their upholding of the Board's
decision. Because of the lack of other uses or development along Rolland Moore Drive in this location the
parallel parking spaces will be available to primarily serve, most likely, the residential buildings in The Grove.
4. 1 noticed that no gas lines are shown on the Utility Plans submitted with the Final Development Plans. I
assume this means that City Light and Power will need to redo the electric plans for the site, as the electric
system was not designed to accommodate electric space heating. Is this underway?
Here is a response sent on September 30rh to Jon Feiman from Doug Martine of City Light & Power:
Jonathan,
I checked with my counterpart at Xcel. She said that the developer has to this point only inquired about
availability of natural gas, which she said is available. However, the developer has not yet requested an actual
design of the gas system from Xcel. I don't think that it is uncommon for a developer to wait to request a design
from Xcel until close to start of development. I believe that Xcel charges the developer a deposit at the time a
request is made, and a developer wouldn't want to tie up money any longer than necessary. Light & Power policy
does not require a deposit from the developer to initiate a design of the electric system. Developers are required
to pay for installation of the electric system, including engineering and their share of off site facilities. We need to
receive 50% of the total in order to install the electric system; with the remaining 50% due before the electric
system can be energized. In the unusual case of a developer requesting electric space heating, the rate charged
for the electric utility system is substantially higher than for a non -electric heat development.
The Light & Power underground facilities are planned to be located predominately in the road right-of-way,
between the sidewalks and the curbs. There is a 9 ft. utility easement behind the right-of-way (back of the
sidewalk), which is where Xcel normally installs their gas mains. The Light & Power pad type electric
transformers will also be placed in this easement (Xcel lines easily go past the transformers in the easement). In
other words, there is adequate space for the gas lines in The Grove. The construction practices and policies that
have been coordinated with all utilities, call for utilities to be installed from deepest to shallowest. For example,
sewer lines being the deepest will be installed first, followed by water, etc. Light & Power facilities are installed
after sewer and water (including their service 'stubs' toward each building) and after the curbs are installed, but
before the sidewalks. Natural gas (shallower than electric) will be installed after the electric system, but also
before the sidewalks are poured. Telephone and/or Cable TV lines are typically the shallowest and usually
installed in the back of the property, but occasionally they will share the trench with the Light & Power facilities. I
believe that in this case, the Light & Power trench is planned to be shared with phone and CAN.
As far as utility plans are concerned, most of the time the electric, gas, phone and TV facilities are not shown.
During the development review process the developers site and utility plans are looked over by all utilities to
make sure that there is a space. Only occasionally is there a conflict since all these utilities have a standard
installation location. When a conflict does arise, there is a utility coordination meeting called where all utilities
discuss it together with the developer.
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Steve Olt
From: Steve Olt
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:00 PM
To: 'Sarah Burnett'
Cc: Ted Shepard; Peter Barnes; Marc Virata; Doug Martine
Subject: RE: Questions about CSURF ODP and Grove PDP
Sarah,
Please see staff responses to your questions, below.
Steve
From: Sarah Burnett [mailto:sarahmburnett@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:55 AM
To: Steve Olt
Subject: Questions about CSURF ODP and Grove PDP
Steve,
I have a few questions regarding The Grove final review
1. CUP Final Documents - are these available? Perhaps I missed them in the documents that were posted on
the City's FTP site, but I don't believe they were included.
The ODP review process is a one-step process in the City of Fort Collins. A "formal final" ODP plan submittal
and review process/time-frame is not required by the Land Use Code; however, staff will thoroughly review the
mylars of the ODP to ensure compliance with any and all requirements set forth by the Planning & Zoning Board
and/or City Council before the plan would be recorded.
2. Staff Review for the OOP and PDP - could you let me know the meeting time for the Staff Review for the FDP
for The Grove once it is scheduled?
Yes, I will let you know the anticipated time for The Grove at Fort Collins — Final Plans discussion at staff review
next week (10/26) when the agenda is set.
3. PDP Guest Parking - As you know and acknowledged in the Council AIS for the appeal, there are no off-street
parking guest parking spaces within 200 feet of Buildings 4 and 5 and much of Building 6.
Here is the relevant code (3.2.2.(D)(3)(b)):
(b) Guest Parking. Off-street guest parking spaces in multi -family developments shall be
distributed proportionally to the dwelling unit locations that they are intended to serve. Such
parking shall not be located more than two hundred (200) feet from any dwelling unit that is
intended to be served.
From the AIS for the City Council appeal, Staff suggested the following: "Regarding Buildings 4 and 5, there are
14 parallel parking spaces in a recessed parking area along Rolland Moore Drive, directly in front of the buildings,
that could be identified and signed as guest parking."
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