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Home My WebLink AboutTHE GROVE AT FORT COLLINS - PDP - 16-10B - CORRESPONDENCE - TRAFFIC STUDY (9)Page 4 of 4 Traffic Systems Engineer City of Fort Collins Traffic Operations off.970-221-6820 fax:970-221-6282 wstanford@fc�ov.com -----Original Message ----- From: Heather and Paul [mailto:armstickle@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 9:50 PM To: Steve Olt Cc: Armstrong Paul; Stickler Heather Subject: Development Fees and Traffic Study Hi Steve, It's Heather Stickler from the Windtrail on Spring Creek neighborhood. I have a couple of questions I hope you can help me with please: 1) Where would I find information about the development fees Campus Crest and CSURF have paid relating to the various proposed ODP and PDP submittals to date? 2) Where can I get information about a traffic study which was conducted recently along Center Avenue? I believe the car counting mechanisms were in place during a period of time in February. Also, thank you very much for your update email (from a couple weeks ago) to the neighbors in my area regarding the most current status of the Campus Crest proposals. It was most welcomed to have an update from the City since things have been relatively quiet. I understand from the recent newspaper article that a new submittal is expected from Campus Crest in April so we will be awaiting word on any new submissions. Thank you Steve for helping me to find more information about the 2 questions above! Heather 4/14/2011 Page 3 of 4 I would appreciate your help in resolving these questions. It appears that the various submittal documents for The Grove at Fort Collins (ODP and PDP) do not include a traffic study from February (please correct me if I am mistaken about this). It seems improbable that any traffic study done in late February, right where the proposed relocated Rolland Moore would intersect with Center, would have nothing to do with the proposed development plans. The newest submittal regarding the Amended CSURF Centre for Advanced Technology Overall Development Plan does have a minor traffic study included. It was performed by Delich and Associates. I've not reviewed it yet but a quick flip thru it does not indicate any new traffic counts. You can contact Delich and Associates at 970-669- 2061 to see if they have conducted any studies in that area. Otherwise you would have to research counting firms, engineering firms, maybe other businesses to try to determine who may have placed the box in that area. I'm sorry I'm unable to help more than this, but I do not know who's equipment you saw nor know of anyone conducting a study in the area. Thanks in advance for your help, Sarah Burnett Begin forwarded message: From: Ward Stanford <WSTANFORD@fcgov.com> Date: March 30, 2011 9:27:28 AM MDT To: Steve Olt <SOLT@fcgov.com>, 'Heather and Paul' <armstickle a�gmail.com> Cc: Stickler Heather <heather_l.s_tickler@intel.corn>, Sandy Lindell <slindell@fcgov.com>, Ted Shepard <TSHEPARD(@fcgov.com>, Lindsay Ex <lex@fcgov.com>, Marc Virata <MVIRATA@fcgov.com>, Glen Schlueter <GSCHLUETER(a)fcgov.com>, Matthew Wempe <MWempe(cDfcgov.com> Subject: RE: Development Fees and Traffic Study Hi Heather, Cliecking widi our stall we have not conducted any studies on Center in the recent mondis. NVe will conduct most studies for die City's departments unless there is a large study to conduct for sonhedhing like updating large area City plans or a larger scale study for a specific City project such as die Mason Bus Rapid Transit project. "Those studies usually require more resources than we can economically provide so they are out. sourced to private limns. I'm unaware ol' any such studies so chat leads nhe to chink the study was probably not at the request of a City departinent. Bind regards, Ward Stanford 4/14/2011 Page 2 of 4 our roadways. Please also see my reply's following your questions below. Kind regards, Ward Stanford Traffic Systems Engineer City of Fort Collins Traffic Operations off: 970-221-6820 fax: 970-221-6282 From: Sarah Burnett [mailto:sarahmburnett@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 6:57 PM To: Ward Stanford Cc: Steve Olt Subject: Traffic Study on Center Ward, I received a copy of your response to Heather Stickler (see below), and understand from your email that City staff has not conducted any recent studies on Center. I was among a number of area residents who saw a traffic counter in place across Center for one day in late February (perhaps around the 23rd). It appeared sometime before 3 pm one day and was removed after noon and before 5 pm the next day. The 'box' was secured to the street light post on the east side of Center just north of the bridge crossing Larimer Canal #2. Please refer to my comment above about private counts. 1. Could you please verify that the City did not conduct a study? I'm assuming that there may have been a miscommunication among departments/individuals, because it is clear that a traffic count took place. Could you check again? As far as City Traffic staff being requested by another City department to conduct a count in that area, they've not had a request. I contacted Transportation Planning and Engineering also. Transportation Planning has not had any study performed and I'm awaiting a call back from Engineering. Any City department could have a study performed by an private entity, for any reason, and I wouldn't necessarily know anything about it. I'll let you know if Engineering had a count being done once they contact me back. 2. If the City did not conduct the study, who did? Anyone can contract with a private counting company or consulting engineering firm, or possibly other business, to have a count performed and 1 truly would not know about those counts. 3. If someone wants to do a traffic count, are they required to file a notice or request with someone at the City, or have some interaction with the City? Can any person just install a traffic counter without the City's knowledge? No they do not have to acquire City permission. They are not changing, disturbing or interfering with anything so a notice is not needed, nor required. 4. Are results of traffic studies available to the public? I'm not an attorney and I advise you to get legal assistance for a definitive answer, but as far as I believe only public studies are available to the general public such as those submitted to a public agency or conducted by a public agency/entity. Possibly some others based upon some possible legal reasons Again, as far as I believe, studies contracted by and for a private entity are private property and it would require the owners permission to access the study. 4/14/2011 Page 1 of 4 Steve Olt From: Ward Stanford Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 8:52 AM To: Sarah Burnett Cc: Steve Olt Subject: RE: Traffic Study on Center Hello Sarah, I received a call back from Engineering this morning and they have not had a study done in that area either It may have been a private study or possibly something for CSU or a CSU entity. Again, my apologies for not being more help Have a great day, Ward Stanford Traffic Systems Engineer City of Fort Collins Traffic Operations off. 970-221-6820 fax: 970-221-6282 From: Sarah Burnett [mailto:sarahmburnett@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 7:21 AM To: Ward Stanford Cc: Steve Olt Subject: RE: Traffic Study on Center Ward, Thank you for the information. I appreciate your efforts in double-checking to see why the traffic study was performed, and for the answers to my other questions. Thanks, Sarah Burnett From: WSTANFORD@fcgov.com To: sarahmburnett@hotmail.com CC: SOLT@fcgov.com Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:54:16 -0600 Subject: RE: Traffic Study on Center Hello Sarah, I spoke with our counting staff again and they state they have not performed any counts in that area this year. As stated in the previous email, there are private companies and consulting engineering firms that do traffic counts. Speaking with our count person he rarely does a count for another City department anymore. He is mostly asked for existing data from locations we count as a part of our regular efforts to keep tract of basic growth/declines on 4/14/2011 r