HomeMy WebLinkAboutTHE GROVE AT FORT COLLINS - PDP - 16-10B - CORRESPONDENCE - (52)When the neighbors asked the Planner (Steve Olt) questions (e.g., about Larimer Canal
#2), they felt their questions got pushed aside and not addressed. They would like an
opportunity to submit questions to the City staff (planner) and have a response: the
questions that staff can answer, do so. If there are questions that staff cannot answer
(either they are information that the applicant/developer or another agency has), then note
that and who/how to contact to get the information.
NEXT STEPS/ACTION ITEMS
1. Proposed Land Use Code Changes —Steve Dush indicated three changes that are being
reviewed and proposed for the (June) LUC changes that will go to Council.
2. Creation of a "Development Review Overview (DRO) for Citizens Series" —to educate
and help coach neighbors in how the Development Review process works and how they
can effectively participate and influence decisions. This will necessitate additional
resources. The current thinking for how this would work would be a meeting
with staff and the neighbors that would precede the traditional neighborhood
meeting that is viewed by some as simply the developers' meeting.
3. Provide a contact list (property owner, developer; lessee, neighborhood group; etc.) of
key players related to an application/project—so the neighbors know who to contact to
address their questions/concerns for particular elements of the proposed development.
4. Develop a way to better access staff for the purpose of the neighbors asking questions
and reviewing their concerns. This would be outlined during the Development
Review Overview (DRO)
5. Review the ex-parte rules/procedures related to contacting City Councilmembers—this
may be a conversation among the City Attorney, the City Manager and City Council as to
whether or not they want to consider amending how the Council conducts and quasi-
judicial hearing.
Timing
Item 1, changes to the Land Use Code regarding cooling off periods and other application
procedures, are scheduled for Council first reading at the June 7 meeting of City Council. The
other items in the list are part of a larger conversation that is underway with this neighborhood
group, Council, and various City staff. We are exploring ways of improving neighborhood
participation in the development review process, and expect to have formal changes made by the
end of the summer. In the meantime, we will continue to be sensitive to the increasing concern of
the City's residents about the process as we address individual issues and problems.
Meeting Summary
April 20, 2011.
Subject: Development Review Process
Participants: Richard Thomas, Kevin Barrier, Colleen Hoffman (neighbors of Campus Crest
project), Steve Roy, Diane Jones, Paul Eckman, Karen Cumbo; Steve Dush
CITIZENs/NEIGHBORS' CONCERNS
a. While Steve Roy clearly explained our quasi-judicial process and rules and the rationale
for those, Richard and others continue to desire to provide information to the City
Council before an appeal hearing. Also, I think they understood that they, as can anyone
interested in the application/project, provide and submit information to the P&Z Board
that becomes part of the official record. However, they want the opportunity to provide
Council with additional information, particularly if new information is discovered after
the P&Z Hearing and before the Council hears an appeal. One option is to have the
Council reconsider the rules and procedures for conducting a land use hearing/appeal
(e.g. consider a de novo approach).
b. Neighbors are not given a means to be an "equal player" —they don't have the resources
an applicant typically has (e.g., a good working knowledge/experience with the
Development Review Process; professional resources to assist and guide them through
the process such as an attorney, an engineer, an architect, etc.). Staff is currently
exploring methods to address this by developing a "Development Review
Overview (DRO)" meeting that would precede a neighborhood meeting. The
DRO would consist of neighborhood services staff as well as the project planner
and perhaps another staff member that would serve as the initial point of contact
for a project while explaing ing the process, tips and methods for organizing and
understanding the upcoming development application.
c. Residents also feel very restricted in what is considered "relevant" for neighbors
to submit to P & Z, when an applicant can provide anything.
d. It feels overwhelming to the neighbors as they must deal with so many entities that are a
part of the Development Review Process (e.g., property owner; lessee; developer), yet
don't know or can't find a representative to talk with. And, in the case of The Grove,
they were never able to talk with the property owner (C-SURF) or a representative who
could give them any details or answer their questions —someone was at meetings
representing C-SURF but consistently stated they didn't have the knowledge to answer
the neighbors' questions. This was very frustrating. When there are so many entities
involved who does the City hold responsible (who is the one responsible for the overall
development application or project)?
The neighbors want to be able to contact the major players and have a dialogue/ask
questions.
e. Neighbors also believe that past performance should be a criteria in approving variances
and incentives.
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5. Review the ex-parte rules/procedures related to contacting City Councilmembers—this may be a
conversation among the City Attorney, the City Manager and City Council as to whether or not they want
to consider amending how the Council conducts and quasi-judicial hearing.
It would be helpful in the summary that goes to Darin, Council and the neighbors to include information about the
timeline for the action items. Please amend if I missed something. Thanks again to all for the meeting
w/Richard, Colleen and Kevin. I think they found it very useful to sit down with the cadre of staff and talk
through their concerns.
Pia.».e
Diane Jones
Deputy City Manager
City of Fort Collins
P.O. Box 580
Fort Collins, CO 80522
970-221-6508
djones@fcgov.com
4/27/2011
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concerns, and reiterate the next steps we discussed at the meeting); and (3) we need to keep the communication
fresh and timely with Darin, the Council and the citizens.
CITIZENS/NEIGHBORS' CONCERNS
a. While Steve Roy clearly explained our quasi-judicial process and rules and the rationale for those, Richard
and others continue to desire to provide information to the City Council before an appeal hearing. Also, I
think they understood that they, as can anyone interested in the application/project, provide and submit
information to the P&Z Board that becomes part of the official record. However, they want the
opportunity to provide Council with additional information, particularly if new information is discovered
after the P&Z Hearing and before the Council hears an appeal. One option is to have the Council
reconsider the rules and procedures for conducting a land use hearing/appeal (e.g. consider a de novo
approach).
b. Neighbors are not given a means to be an "equal player" —they don't have the resources an applicant
typically has (e.g., a good working knowledge/experience with the Development Review Process;
professional resources to assist and guide them through the process such as an attorney, an engineer, an
architect, etc.).
c. It feels overwhelming to the neighbors as they must deal with so many entities that are a part of the
Development Review Process (e.g., property owner; leasee; developer), yet don't know or can't find a
representative to talk with. And, in the case of The Grove, they were never able to talk with the property
owner (C-SURF) or a representative who could give them any details or answer their questions —someone
was their representing C-SURF but consistently stated they didn't have the knowledge to answer the
neighbors' questions. This was very frustrating. When there are so many entities involved who does the
City hold responsible (who is the one responsible for the overall development application or project)?
The neighbors want to be able to contact the major players and have a dialogue/ask questions.
d. When the neighbors asked the Planner (Steve Olt) questions (e.g., about Larimer Canal #2), they felt their
questions got pushed aside and not addressed. They would like an opportunity to submit questions to the
City staff (planner) and have a response: the questions that staff can answer, do so. If there are questions
that staff cannot answer (either they are information that the applicant/developer or another agency has),
then note that and who/how to contact to get the information.
NEXT STEPS/ACTION ITEMS
Proposed Land Use Code Changes —Steve Dush indicated three changes that are being reviewed and
proposed for the (July) LUC changes that will go to Council.
2. Creation of a "Development Review for Citizens Series" —to educate and help coach neighbors in how the
Development Review process works and how they can effectively participate and influence decisions.
3. Provide a contact list (property owner, developer; leasee; neighborhood group; etc.) of key players related
to an application/projects—so the neighbors know who to contact to address their questions/concerns for
particular elements of the proposed development.
4. Develop a way to better access staff for the purpose of the neighbors asking questions and reviewing their
concerns.
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From: Karen Cumbo
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 4:13 PM
To: Diane ]ones; Steve Dush; Steve Roy; Paul Eckman
Cc: Darin Atteberry
Subject: RE: Meeting w/Richard Thomas and Neighbors re Development Review Process
Diane,
There is one, and possibly two, pending Council (Manvel and Horak) SAR's that grew out of Mr. Thomas'
comments at Council last week. They are related to the continuing conversations we have had over the last
several months with Mr. Thomas and his neighbors, other nieghborhood groups, and other staff members (Steve
Olt, Ginny Sawyer, etc). The comments/concerns of Kelly Ohlson and others about the number of variances,
reasons for variances, and other concerns about the Development Review process are also a part of this picture.
It might be useful to fold all of these interests and efforts together, perhaps in a work session setting. We could
use the February (and now current) memo on Development Review as the background for the proposed
changes. Steve is Fleshing out some additional ideas that he has for neighborhood assistance.
I will draft a meeting summary that we can provide to these neighbors, and append to the Dev Review memo for
Darin. I will also respond to the SAR's with the information about this current effort to evaluate and improve our
development review process, particularly as it affects neighbors of development. I would propose that we include
a discussion of how we address all of the pending concerns in our meeting with Darin on Thursday.
What do you think?
Karen
From: Diane ]ones
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 2:07 PM
To: Karen Cumbo; Steve Dush; Steve Roy; Paul Eckman
Cc: Darin Atteberry
Subject: Meeting w/Richard Thomas and Neighbors re Development Review Process
All —
As promised, here are my notes of the major points discussed and next steps from our meeting with Richard
Thomas, Colleen, and Kevin on April 20, 2011. I would recommend that Karen or Steve prepare a summary (and
add anything that I may have missed) that we can send to Darin (and he could send to Council) as: (1) several
Council members share a similar concern about the process and are expecting process improvements; same
summary should go to the three neighbors we talked with (so they can see we heard them, test if we captured their
4/27/2011
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Steve Olt
From:
Karen Cumbo
Sent:
Wednesday, April 27, 2011 1:22 PM
To:
Carrie Daggett; Diane Jones; Steve Dush; Steve Roy; Paul Eckman
Cc:
Darin Atteberry; Steve Olt
Subject: RE: DND RE: Meeting w/Richard Thomas and Neighbors re Development Review Process
Attachments: Meeting Summary 4 20 1l(revised).doc
Carrie,
It is really astonishing how much energy and effort is going into this subject. It encompasses both modifications
to the general development review process and staff time devoted to the specifics of the pending application for
The Grove. It involves (at least) staff from CDNS, Utilities, Economic Health, the City Manager's office, and the
City Attorney's office, and several Council members. Oh, I forgot to mention representatives from other
communities who have been contacted by Mr. Thomas.
Since Steve Dush has a conflict in this case, I would be happy to serve as a central point for communication with
Mr. Thomas and the neighbors to the degree that is comfortable for the City Attorney's office. This would mitigate
the problem of the City Attorney's office providing legal advice to citizens, and make sure that the staff is all on the
same page. I assume that the City Attorney's office, or Diane or Darin, would be in the Council member loop
rather than me.
I have not yet provided a meeting summary from last week (4/20) when Steve Roy, Steve Dush, Paul Eckman,
Diane and I met with Mr. Thomas and two other neighbors about quasi-judicial and other matters, although it has
been sent to Diane and Steve D for comments, and appended to a memo for Darin in anticipation of a meeting
tomorrow about the development review process. The draft is attached. Any additional guidance from the legal
arena that you can provide would be helpful.
Karen
Karen Cumbo
Director, Planning Development and Transportation
City of Fort Collins
970-221-6287
From: Carrie Daggett
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:58 AM
To: Karen Cumbo; Diane Jones; Steve Dush; Steve Roy; Paul Eckman
Cc: Darin Atteberry
Subject: DND RE: Meeting w/Richard Thomas and Neighbors re Development Review Process
CONFIDENTIAL ATTY-CLIIENT COMMUNICATION
Richard Thomas has also asked Kelly Ohlson to provide to him City policy related to the ex parte
communications and quasi judicial proceedings. We are preparing a confidential packet memo for City
Council for tomorrow that will include some Code and related language that would be responsive to Mr.
Thomas' request. Would it make sense for you, Karen, to incorporate that into your further
communications with Mr. Thomas as a way to provide a response to him?
—C
Carrie Mineart Daggett
Deputy City Attorney
4/27/2011