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process.
p.s. Paul, do we need to touch base before you leave for Hawaii?
—C
From: Paul Eckman
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 3:01 PM
To: Steve Olt; Steve Roy; Carrie Daggett
Cc: Ted Shepard; Steve Dush
Subject: RE: appeal and filing of final plan
Maybe you should hold off until Monday to see whether Steve agrees with you or me.
From: Steve Olt
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 2:55 PM
To: Paul Eckman; Steve Roy; Carrie Daggett
Cc: Ted Shepard; Steve Dush
Subject: RE: appeal and filing of final plan
Sensitivity: Confidential
One point of clarification, I have not yet told the applicants that we will not accept their FP application until the
appeal has been resolved in their favor. I wanted to hear from Paul prior to contacting them.
Steve Olt
From: Paul Eckman
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 2:22 PM
To: Steve Roy; Carrie Daggett
Cc: Steve Olt; Ted Shepard
Subject: appeal and filing of final plan
Sensitivity: Confidential
I heard that the Grove folks are getting ready to file a final plan (FP) even though the PDP is on appeal. I have
said that they can do so under 2-48(a) of the City Code which says that any action taken while something is on
appeal is totally at the risk of the person taking such action. So, they stand the risk of losing a bunch of money
paying architects and engineers to prepare the FP and they lose the filing fee paid to us if the appeal goes sour
on them.
Steve Olt thinks they cannot file the FP because of LUC sections 2.1.3 (D) (2) and 2.5.2 which essentially say
that you can't file a FP until the PDP has been approved by the appropriate "decision maker" being either hearing
officer of PZ Board. Steve thinks that now, the appropriate decision maker is the City Council, and they have to
wait.
I think it is stupid for them to file a FP because it will anger the Council that they are so presumptuous. I doubt
that a couple of months will make a big difference in construction timing, but that is just a guess on my part.
Even so, I think they have that right. I wouldn't fall on my sword on this though, and if you agree with Steve Olt
that is fine with me.
Ted Shepard said to me that Olt has already told them that we will not accept their FP application until the appeal
has been resolved in their favor, so this issue may come up when I am out, and I wanted you to know about it.
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"A site specific development plan shall be deemed approved upon the expiration of any right of
appeal of the approval by the decision maker relating thereto, except that in the event that any such
decision of approval has been appealed, the site specific development plan shall be deemed approved as
of the date of the City's final action with regard to such appeal."
While this is not specifically addressed to the question of submission of the Final Plan, given that the
Final Plan can only be submitted after approval of a PDP, I think in the case of a PDP that has been
appealed, this suggests pretty clearly that it shouldn't be considered approved until the resolution of the
appeal process.
Otherwise, the PDP is being treated as approved before the process has run its course, which is clearly
not the intent of the LUC in requiring that the PDP be approved first.
Are there other LUC provisions that I'm missing that would suggest something different?
—C
Carrie Mineart Daggett
Deputy City Attorney
City of Fort Collins
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Fort Collins, CO 80522
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From: Paul Eckman
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 5:25 PM
To: Carrie Daggett
Subject: Re: appeal and filing of final plan
Sensitivity: Confidential
If they paid the fee it seems like we should provide the service they paid for.
From: Carrie Daggett
To: Paul Eckman; Steve Olt; Steve Roy
Cc: Ted Shepard; Steve Dush
Sent: Fri Jul 08 15:18:08 2011
Subject: RE: appeal and filing of final plan
Hey! I could be the tie -breaker!
But, since I'm away from my desk and don't have an LUC handy, I have to ask: is there a requirement that staff
process an FP when received, or a clock ticking for completing review once it's accepted? It seems legitimate to
me that staff would not want to waste time and resources reviewing the FP pending the completion of the appeal
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Steve Olt
From:
Steve Roy
Sent:
Monday, July 11, 2011 4:39 PM
To:
Steve Olt; Carrie Daggett
Cc:
Ted Shepard; Steve Dush
Subject:
RE: appeal and filing of final plan
Sensitivity: Confidential
Okay. I'll look at it tonight and we'll get you our view of the issue by tomorrow.
From: Steve Olt
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 4:34 PM
To: Steve Roy; Carrie Daggett
Cc: Ted Shepard; Steve Dush
Subject: RE: appeal and filing of final plan
Sensitivity: Confidential
Hopefully. I know that Ripley's office is of the belief that their clients really want to submit Final Plans Wednesday
of this week.
Steve Olt
From: Steve Roy
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 4:30 PM
To: Carrie Daggett; Steve Olt
Cc: Ted Shepard; Steve Dush
Subject: RE: appeal and filing of final plan
Sensitivity: Confidential
I'd like to join the conversation before we finalize a decision. I should have time to look at it tomorrow or
Wednesday. Will that be soon enough?
From: Carrie Daggett
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 3:15 PM
To: Steve Olt
Cc: Ted Shepard; Steve Dush; Steve Roy
Subject: DND: appeal and filing of final plan
Sensitivity: Confidential
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I did some looking in the LUC now that I have it at my fingertips, and found one additional point that I
think should be considered in figuring out what to do with the final plan if it is filed.
In looking at the Lapse provision of LUC Section 2.2.11 (D)(l), it is specifically noted there (for the
purpose of determining the lapse of a plan) that:
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