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the floorplans you do actually have more comfort for people and still achieve the same
result of having the light and air.
The motion was approved 4-3 with Members Craig, Lingle and Torgerson voting
in the negative.
Recommendation to City Council for Citywide
Floodplain Regulations (except for the Poudre River)
Project 0egcription: Provide a formal recommendation to City Council ano/
�� with that recommendation comments the Board feels
is appropriate.
Bob Smith, Siormwater Direcfb[gave the staff presentation. lie stated t they were
talking about all the floodplains within the city except the Poudre Riverttaff has been
working on this for two years and has talked to the Board a number of times in study
session. They are going to City Council on June 15`" and they are looking for a
recommendation from the Planning and Zoning Board in addition to any comments.
He stated that the floodplain is broken up into c6mponents. There is the center, which
is the floodway and that is the area with the higher velocity and depths. There is the
fringe area on the side, where the depths are lower and the flows are slower and that is
development is allowed. There is a floodway that is a 6".rise; basically you encroach
from side, the water moves to the center and that is whey' %ouet your floodway.
Something new that will be part of the code which will I ters. Streams will
naturally meander and what they have done through the Master Plan, which the Board
recommended approval of last month, identifies the erosion buffer limits to keep
encroachments high enough so when that stream does move, we don't have to worry
about reinforcing that bank. That is in place and the buffer limits are always from the
top of the bank back, it is not from the center of the streams. It varies across depending
on what stream you
e talking about.
Chairperson Torge" rson asked if that would apply to canals as well.
Mr. Smith replied no not canals, just natural streams.
One other component of the recommendations if that we have FEMA designated
floodplains and city floodplains. Staff is recommending that we stay at or better than the
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Planner Shepard replied it was interesting to him about this zoned is that it is not a City
Plan zone, it is a Westside Neighborhood Plan zone. The Westside Neighborhood Plan
was a very delicate balance to try to preserve the characteristics that were the best
about the neighborhood and yet allow for some redevelopment for some areas where
they thought the neighborhood would need some improvement. Not to have the Laurel
Street shopping area encroach too far west, not to have single family come down to
Laurel Street and not to have too much multi -family go down to Mulberry Street. It is a
real delicate balance and there is a lot of stuff in there about design and he feR that this
project just "nailed" it. He thought that since the way the project is perceived by the
public streets and sidewalks would be "equal to" a plan that would have met the
standards. It is not a City Plan purpose, it is a West Side Neighborhood Plan purpose.
Member Gavaldon asked if the building complies with ADA requirements.
Mr. Brookshire replied that the building meets those requirements by providing units on
the ground floor.
Member Gavaldon asked to see sight shots of the surrounding buildings in the area.
Planner Shepard reviewed that site shots for the Board.
Member Carpenter moved for approval of the Modification request for Atrium
Suites based on the fact that it is not detrimental to the public good, that it is
equal to the standard as it stands and she also believes it is better than because
It provides better housing what would normally be offered.
Member Gavaldon seconded the motion.
Member Lingle would not be supporting the motion. He has no argument with the
project itself, but could not support the modification because there was no way he could
see that it as equal to. The FAR's as well as set back requirements are based on
provision of light, air, ventilation and privacy and constricting the courtyard will only cut
down on those things and not enhance it. He did not see that as equal to.
Chairperson Torgerson concurred with Member Lingle. It was difficult to say
numerically that increasing the FAR is better that keeping the FAR the way it is. It
clearly creates a relatively constrained courtyard where it is only going to be about 12
feet from balcony to balcony and reduces the amount and quality of light.
Member Carpenter stated that the reason she is supporting the modification is that while
you have less light and air and that is meant to be for peoples comfort. When,looking at
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Member Lingle stated that the point he was making was that they would not normally
see floor plans as a part of a submittal and whether a bedroom is 12 feet wide or 15 feet
wide doesn't normally come into plan in what the Board is charged to review.
Chairperson Torgerson felt in order to make that a relevant point, that would have to
play into why this is equal to or better than the compliance with the standard and this
particular standard doesn't really deal with interior spaces or bedrooms.
Member Carpenter asked what would be on the ground in that courtyard.
Mr. Brookshire replied that it is not detailed at this point in time, the discussion has been
to provide glass blocks so that light can filter down into the parking area. There would
be the opportunity for planters with trees, greens and softer materials on the ground
floor so it would serve as a courtyard.
Member Carpenter asked if the change in the two sizes of courtyards would change
anything below.
Mr. Brookshire replied no, there is still sufficient space. There is still the 22 feet
between the two buildings on their proposal using the additional square footage. That
supplies ample space for light and plants to grow in potted areas.
Member Schmidt asked it this courtyard would be a place to congregate for the
students.
Mr. Brookshire replied yes, on the second floor. One of the things they are trying to
achieve is there is a walkway on the third floor so that light can penetrate down clear
through and we get the glass block to the garage. On the second floor, for code
reasons, for fire protection, it will have to be closed off from the parking below, but it
also provides a place for planters and benches; yes, there could be congregation.
Chairperson Torgerson asked if they were making the argument that their plan is equal
to not better than.
Mr. Brookshire replied equal to and better than because the tenants receive the benefit
of the courtyard and the better units.
Chairperson Torgerson stated that when he looks at that section of the code it seems to
him that those who drafted the code did not want to see too much program forced on a
site and therefore limited the FAR on the site.
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Member Craig asked about the courtyard and what exactly was it.
Mr. Brookshire provided a diagram of the courtyard. He stated that the courtyard is
open air all the way from the second floor to the third floor.
Member Craig stated that all she saw was a gap, and to her that meant that it is
separated and is not solid. Can the people on the third floor walk across the courtyard?
Mr. Brookshire replied that it is a "donut" shape and they can walk the perimeter and
they can walk from their unit to stairs.
Member Craig was concerned in decreasing each side by 3 feet that the "students"
would try and jump from one side to the other.
Mr. Brookshire replied that distance was 20 feet and he doubted that they would try and
jump 20 feet.
Chairperson Torgerson asked how wide the walkway was.
Mr. Brookshire replied that it was approximately 3 and one-half feet.
Member Lingle asked for the applicants justification was for how the Board would
determine a small courtyard is equal to or better than a larger courtyard because a
smaller courtyard would have less air and light and less privacy. He was having a hard
time understanding how that could be equal to or better than a larger courtyard.
Mr. Brookshire replied that the courtyard design will still allow light to come into that
space. One benefit of a smaller courtyard is that you will not get as much direct sunlight
hitting the walls, but you still will get the natural light. The space .that you do gain in
return for that smaller outside space is the living and study areas which become of more
importance. The development team has felt that those are very important things for the
students to have and that is where the emphasis has been placed.
Member Schmidt stated that the modification is actually for allowing a larger building,
more square footage on this lot. It is being done by making the apartments bigger and
the courtyards smaller. She thought that the Board could use the idea that the living
spaces are going to be larger in part of deciding whether this modification is a good
thing. By making the apartments larger that is what is increasing the square footage
and that is what the modification is being approved for.
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number of units had decreased from 28 to 24. There will be 20 two -bedroom units and
4 three -bedroom units in the project. Mr. Brookshire gave a slide presentation showing
the site that is currently being operated by Larimer County Community Corrections.
They estimate that there is 104 residents in the group home in addition to employees
and officers that are the 24 hours a day. Currently the site has 18 parking spaces along
the back. The new project is proposing 48 to 52 people living on site with 28 on site
parking and the remaining parking located on an adjacent site.
The modification mentioned is for the density in the zoning portion of the NCB zoning
district where the lot is 19,110 s.f. and therefore the building would need to be 19,110
s.f. What they are proposing is for an additional 2,041 to the building. This difference in
area would be added to the courtyard space in the design of the project. He showed a
diagram of what the footprint of the building looked like that meets the standard and a
diagram of what the building would look like with the additional living space and
reduction in the courtyard space that they are proposing with this modification. The
diagram demonstrates what that difference is in total square footage. It will be spread
over two levels, so approximately 1,000 s.f. on each level. The overall difference
physically, is 7 feet in the courtyard.
Mr. Brookshire stated that they feel the project meets many of the various city plans and
the solution is equal to or better than what the code states. Through the West Side
Neighborhood Plan, this is the type of project that was envisioned for this area as a
transition and buffer zone between the university campus and the neighborhoods to the
north. All along Laurel Street there are commercial, sorority and multi -family uses in
existence. The difference in the overall perception of the building with the modification
does not change at all because the additional square footage is actually taken up on the
interior of the courtyard. The building also provides many design features with new
urbanism principles, including addressing the street having the front doors and main
entry coming out to Laurel Street; in addition to screening the parking area, under the
building and behind the main portions of the building.
The design with the courtyard feature allows the project and the individual units to have
both windows on the interior of the courtyard with their entry doors as well as exterior
windows to the outside of the project so the units are able to get light from both sides.
The additional area they are asking for in the building is a result of the units having
more livable area. The extra square footage is really a benefit to the residents who will
live in the Atrium Suites. Mr. Brookshire also gave other elements of City Plan that this
projects meets.
PUBLIC INPUT
None.
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Member Gavaldon moved to recommend approval of the Trailhead annexation
and zoning, #43-02 with initial zoning to E, Employment zoning district and deny
the request to amenr+ th o+pnt;4n vista Suharea Plan.
Member Craig seconded the mo
Member Carpenter would not be supporting the mo ' As she said the last time this
came before them, LMN is a reasonable and g use of this land. She did not have a
problem with the Employment because tonight they just took 156 acres out of
Employment into Public Open Lands on the consent agenda. She thinks that this
citizen has been in the mist of this r a long time and she did not see any reason not to
make this LMN. She would notl5e supporting the motion for employment.
Chairperson Torgerspwwould also not support the motion. He cord red with Member
Carpenter and also felt that it was worth noting that this is one of the fe opportunities
for affordable housing that we have seen for some time.
The mot�was approved 5-2 with Members Carpenter and Torgerson vote g in
the negative
Project: Atrium Suites, 502 West laurel Street Request for
Modification of Standard.
Project Description: Request for a Modification of Standard for a pending
PDP known as Atrium Suites at 502 West Laurel
Street. The standard at issue is Section 4.8(D)(1)
which pertains to density and minimum lot area. The
applicant is requesting that the proposed building
square footage exceed the lot size by 2,041 square
feet. The site is located at the northwest corner of
West Laurel Street and Sherwood Street. The site
presently contains a large residential structure that
was formerly a sorority and now houses two programs
of the Larimer County Corrections Department. The
site is 19,221 square feet in size and zoned NCB,
Neighborhood Conservation Buffer.
Hearing Testimony, Written Comments and Other Evidence:
Don Brookshire, 3207 Kittery Court, Fort Collins representing the applicant gave a
presentation to the Board. He stated since the Board received their packets, the
Council Liaison: Karen Weitkunat Staff Liaison: Cameron Gloss
Chairperson: Mika[ Torgerson Phone: (W) 16-7435
Vice Chair: Judy Meyer Phone: (W) 490-2172
Chairperson Torgerson called the meeting to order at 6:05 p.m.
Roll Call: Carpenter, Schmidt, Craig, Meyer, Gavaldon, Lingle and Torgerson.
Staff Present: Gloss, Eckman, Shepard, Olt, Barkeen, Stringer, Smith and Dairies.
Director of Current Planning Cameron Gloss reviewed the Consent and Discussion
Agendas:
Consent Agenda:
!. Minutes of the December 19, 2002, February 19, (Continued) and
March 18, 2004 Planning and Zoning Board Hearings.
2. #13-82CROakridge Business Park, 36"Filing, Holiday Inn Express — Project
Development Plan.
3. #4-04 Resource Recovery Farm Rezoning.
Discussion Agenda:
4. #43-02 Trailhead — Annexation and Zoning.
5. #7-04 Atrium Suites, 502 W. Laurel Street — Modification of Standards.
6. Recommendation to City Council — Floodplain Regulations.
Member Lingle pulled Item 2, Oakridge Business Park for discussion.
Member Gavaldon moved for approval of the consent agenda for Item 1, less the
February 19, 2004 minutes and Item 3.
Member Craig seconded the motion.
The motion was approved 7-0.
Project: Oakridge Business Park 36t" Filing, Holiday Inn
Express, Project Development Plan, #13-82CR
Project Description: Request for a four-story 89-unit hotel on 2.167 acres.
The total square footage of the building will be
51,808. The property is located at the southeast