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Home My WebLink AboutRIGDEN FARM, 13TH FILING - PDP - 56-98AM - P&Z PACKET - CORRESPONDENCE-HEARING1 \I 9W FETAL 2 F.m—Lw sGN mTAL I •��... �..... 10 fiTE r.SECWN 11 TYP. FENCE MAL 3 .A.CCFSmE PARKm SPACES mlI IIII� IIIIiiii1 1ON liiiiiiiiwmmm TRASH ENCLOSURE FAONF EIEVATm 4 Oau wAm SEcrm LATE DETAL 5 TRASH BdO.0A1RE mm .11. ice. Y 1N' u Id v+mo® 9 HNa OETAL 11 II II II II u u 13 PRrvACY FENF HEVATm �s xoo.oes u.n Steve Olt - New Dawn Fencing Page 1 From: "David Meyer" <dmeyer@rrengineers.com> To: "'Steve Olt"' <SOLT@fcgov.com> Date: 12/01/2006 1:53:41 PM Subject: New Dawn Fencing Steve, I've attached the detail sheet which shows the two fencing types. I see that it doesn't call out materials, I have the architect verifying. DAVID MEYER DIRECTOR OF PLANNING R&R ENGINEERS -SURVEYORS, INC. 710 West Colfax Avenue Denver, CO 80204 Phone: 303.753.6730 Ext. 107 Fax: 303.753.6568 www.rrengineers.com <mailto:dmeyer@rrengineers.com> dmeyer@rrengineers.com "You Could Use Some R&R" Steve Olt - RE: New Dawn Page 1 From: "David Meyer" <dmeyer@rrengineers.com> To: "'Steve Olt"' <SOLT@fcgov.com> Date: 12/04/2006 1:41:25 PM Subject: RE: New Dawn The architect and owner are working out the final colors. However, we can commit to the fact that it will not be white. Tan or light brown are anticipated. DAVID MEYER DIRECTOR OF PLANNING R&R ENGINEERS -SURVEYORS, INC. 710 West Colfax Avenue Denver, CO 80204 Phone: 303.753.6730 Ext. 107 Fax: 303.753.6568 www.rrengineers.com dmeyer@rrengineers.com -----Original Message ----- From: Steve Olt [mailto:SOLT@fcgov.com] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 4:04 PM To: dmeyer@rrengineers.com Subject: Re: New Dawn David, Thanks. I don't think that the vinyl fence will be a problem and I will make the Board aware of this. However, when people think of vinyl fence they normally visualize stark, bright white fence. Hopefully this fence can be a cream, tan to light brown to match the buildings and provide a softer color fence around the facility. Could you please check into this? Thanks, Steve >>> "David Meyer" <dmeyer@rrengineers.com> 12/01 2:05 PM >>> Steve, Both fences will be a vinyl fence product. DAVID MEYER DIRECTOR OF PLANNING R&R ENGINEERS -SURVEYORS, INC. 710 West Colfax Avenue Denver, CO 80204 Phone: 303.753.6730 Ext. 107 Steve Olt - Re: New Dawn Fencing Page 1 From: Steve Olt To: Brigitte Schmidt; David Lingle Date: 12/06/2006 10:12:32 AM Subject: Re: New Dawn Fencing The fence proposed along Limon Drive and Iowa Drive is the (just under) 4' high picket fence as shown in Detail 12, which is not a large monolithic "solid" fence. There is a 2" gap between the 1" wide vertical pickets that allow visibility through the fence. Posts are spaced at 6' apart and there are only horizontal supports behind the pickets spaced at 3' apart. The "solid" 6' high fence shown in Detail 13 is to enclose the courtyards, adjacent to the parking lot, on the interior sides of the buildings. Steve >>> David Lingle <dlingle@alter-lingle.com> 12/06/2006 9:55 AM >>> Steve: I share Brigitte's concerns about a large expanse of monolithic "solid" fencing along the streetscapes. I was hopinig they were proposing a more open tubular metal fencing in a dark color. Dave Schmidt, Brigitte wrote: >Thanks Steve, just got your email this morning. >I'll look at the overall again when I get home to see where the perimeter fencing goes. It seems like a large area to have such a dense fencing in a light color. Just wondering what the visual effect along the street will be, but can't remember what kind of landscaping goes on the outside of the fence. I'll have a chance to look at the plans later this morning and get back to you. Brigitte >----- Original Message ----- >From: Steve Olt rmailto:SOLT(o)fcgov.coml >Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 2:14 PM >To: dlingle(a)aller-lingle.com; stockover(a)aol.com; Schmidt, Brigitte; ruthie.rollins angmail.com; poudretrout(ahotmail. com; matt(o)prodocmgmt.com; frconsiudv(a)vahoo.com >Cc: Cameron Gloss >Subject: Fwd: New Dawn Fencing >Hello Board members, >As a follow-up to the question about the perimeter fencing for the New Dawn @ Rigden Farm Assisted Living facility, please note the applicant's response to this question. There is an e-mail attached, with a Detail Sheet, showing both the perimeter fence elevation (Detail 12) and the privacy fence elevation (Detail 13) designs. As David Meyer of R&R Engineers has stated, both fences will be a vinyl fence product. The fence colors will be a tan or light brown, they will not be white. >I hope this gives you the level of comfort needed to enable the request to remain on consent. >Thanks, >Steve Steve Olt - Re: New Dawn Page 1 From: Steve Olt To: David Meyer Date: 12/06/2006 2:24:06 PM Subject: Re: New Dawn David, That is correct. In the City of Fort Collins the Planning & Zoning Board is the "final authority' on Type 2 land use reviews and decisions. This would go to City Council only if the Board's decision were appealed by someone who is a "party -in -interest". Their appeal would have to be supported by appropriate grounds for appeal and be accepted by the City Attorney's office. You can submit the Final Compliance Plans as soon as the day after the Planning & Zoning Board public hearing. However, there is a 14-day appeal period after the Board's decision. If you submit final plans within that period you are at risk of delay of the Final Compliance review if the Board's decision is appealed. Steve >>> "David Meyer" <dmeyer@rrengineers.com> 12/06/2006 1:57 PM >>> One other thing. The agenda indicates that "The P&Z board is the final authority' on our item. Can you confirm that the PDP will not need to go on to CC and that we can proceed with our final plan submittal after P&Z? DAVID MEYER DIRECTOR OF PLANNING R&R ENGINEERS -SURVEYORS, INC. 710 West Colfax Avenue Denver, CO 80204 Phone: 303.753.6730 Ext. 107 Fax: 303.753.6568 www.rrengineers.com <mailto:dmever(a)rrengineers.com> dmeverarrengineers.com "You Could Use Some R&R" I.Steve Olt - RE: New Dawn Fencing Page 1 From: "Schmidt,Brigitte" <Brigitte.Schmidt@ColoState.EDU> To: Steve Olt <SOLT@fcgov.com>, "dlingle@alter-lingle.com" <dlingle@aller-lingle.com>, "stockover@aol.com" <stockover@aol.com>, "ruthie.rollins@gmail.com" <ruthie.rollins@gmail.com>, "poudretrout@hotmail.com" <poudretrout@hotmail.com>, "matt@prodocmgmt.com" <matt@prodocmgmt.com>, "frconsjudy@yahoo.com" <frconsjudy@yahoo.com> Date: 12/06/2006 3:55:58 PM Subject: RE: New Dawn Fencing Yes, I did, Thanks, Steve. From the fencing I've looked at driving around town, I don't feel that 2" spacing gives a very open appearance. Unless you are very perpendicular to it, all the pickets blend together and it will look solid with not much variation. I would like the opportunity to discuss it further on Thursday night. Brigitte -----Original Message ----- From: Steve Olt [mailto:SOLT@fcgov.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 3:44 PM To: dlingle@aller-lingle.com; stockover@aol.com; Schmidt, Brigitte; ruthie.roll ins@gmail.com; poudretrout@hotmail.com; matt@prodocmgmt.com; frconsjudy@yahoo.com Cc: Cameron Gloss Subject: RE: New Dawn Fencing Brigitte, I assume that you did receive my response of earlier today that said that the perimeter fencing is to be just under 4' in height and of a picket design that provides a fairly open appearance. The 1" wide pickets will be spaced 2" apart between fence posts that are spaced at 6' apart. There will be just 2 horizontal supports, spaced 3' apart, behind the pickets. Steve >>> "Schmidt, Brigitte" <Brigitte.Schmidt@ColoState.EDU> 12/06/2006 3:29 PM >>> Steve, I've looked at the plan copies I have and I still have some concerns about the perimeter fencing and the visual affect of this type of fencing from the road and sidewalk. So I do plan to pull this from consent so we can discuss it. Thanks, Brigitte -----Original Message ----- From: Steve Olt [mailto:SOLT@fcgov.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 2:14 PM To: dlingle@aller-lingle.com; stockover@aol.com; Schmidt,Brigitte; ruthie.rollins@gmail.com; poudretrout@hotmail.com; matt@prodocmgmt.com; frconsjudy@yahoo.com Cc: Cameron Gloss Subject: Fwd: New Dawn Fencing Hello Board members, As a follow-up to the question about the perimeter fencing for the New Dawn @ Rigden Farm Assisted Living facility, please note the applicant's response to this question. There is an e-mail attached, with a Detail Sheet, showing both the perimeter fence elevation (Detail 12) and the privacy fence elevation (Detail 13) designs. As David Meyer of R&R Engineers has stated, both fences will be a vinyl fence product. The fence colors will be a tan or light brown, they will not be white.