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26. Comment: (Wendy Clark): I don't want any trees. They would require a
lot of maintenance and they drop leaves. Put the trees by
the tower. Just then, her cell phone rang and she announced
that it was a T-Mobile phone.
Response: We're trying to come up with a reasonable solution here...
27. Comment: I am open to a tree to block the view, though I know that
trees can be a lot of maintenance. We just removed an apple
tree because it was a lot of work.
28. Question: Do you have information about this site on paper about the
decibels?
Answer: No. I can provide information for a similar site which has
even more fans on it and/or this site's actual levels once it is
on air. The existing report has information at the tower, 25
feet from the tower, and 50 feet from the tower. I am also
willing to drive you to a site to hear it if you like. The nearby
Cingular site is quite similar. You could go by there and
check it out.
29. Comment: We don't have a lot of traffic on Montview, so background
noises such as the fans might be problematic.
Response: (Anne Aspen): there are trash compactors and semi trailers
in the service alley. These are likely louder than the fans will
be.
Reply: We find the existing noise to be acceptable.
Meeting concluded at about 8:20pm
Answer: We have a tower in Eagle County that looks like a tree and
birds perch on it. If they can't tell... We must meet federal
regulations. The city cannot deny proposals because of
health issues.
24. Question: What about asbestos and lead paint? The government said
these were safe too. They are very slow acting. Down the
road if they are proved harmful, it's too late. Radiation is
dangerous. Everyone is exposed to radiation from cell phone
towers.
Answer: There are numerous reports on safety and health issues. We
have sites on hospitals.
(Anne Aspen): As we've already talked about, the Hearing
Officer cannot deny this project based on health issues.
While the discussion about radiation and health issues has
merit, it is outside of the realm of what we can act on in this
meeting or at the hearing. We need to move on from this
topic. What other issues haven't been addressed yet?
25. Question: What about the tree question from before? Can you put up
trees as a visual barrier or buffer?
Answer: We considered buffering the base of the equipment with
vegetation originally but another planner at the city said it
wouldn't make sense since the area around there is already
fenced in. No one will see it.
(Anne Aspen): In order to buffer the view which has been
stated as the number one issue though, we could require
trees to be planted between the tower and the residents.
Reply: Trees wouldn't reach 50 feet for many years.
Response: (Anne Aspen) Depending on where they are planted, they
wouldn't need to be even close to 50 feet tall to completely
block the view. Acme sketched a site section to illustrate,
reproduced on next page:
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Plaza property has been zoned for con nercial uses since at
least 1965.
19. Question: What about security lights?
Answer: There will be security lights that meet City standards. These
should help to address vandalism issues that were brought
up at the last meeting.
Comment: The vandalism problem is to the north at the Housing
Authority property.
20. Question: What about equipment noise? I'm concerned my renter may
move out because of noise at night.
Answer: We've done noise studies for previous projects. The
equipment is quiet except for the fans that run to keep it
cool, like in your computer. The fan is similar in the noise it
produces to the one in your refrigerator. The hotter the day,
the more the fans run —it's the same amount of noise, just
more frequent. The studies have always shown the fan noise
to be well within local and state parameters. We will comply
with Fort Collins' noise regulations too.
21. Question: Is this the lowest impact location available? Is there
anywhere possible that is not near residences? Out near the
stadium perhaps?
Answer: We have one proposed on W. Vine at Crisman Airfield that
the County is currently reviewing. The way cell towers work
is similar to a lawn sprinkler system. We want to cover a
certain area without overlapping and duplicating coverage.
This area is where we need coverage.
22. Question: Did you consider the KFC area to the north of Elizabeth?
Answer: Yes, but that would have been too far north —we would have
had overlapping coverage to the north. It is also a very small
commercial site that needs all of its parking.
23. Question: Is radiation responsible for the issues with reduced bee
counts that we are seeing? "If in doubt, throw it outl"
Money is all that matters in these deals.
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made from cell phones.
14. Comment: I know this isn't the right forum for this sort of concern, but
I have to wonder what the larger environmental cost of all
this technology is.
15. Question: I don't see these towers going up in wealthy residential
areas. Why aren't there cell towers in Eagle Ranch?
Answer: There are. Cited some regional examples.
Comment: Where is that? I'm talking Fort Collins.
16. Comment: Cell phone towers should all be located way out in the hills,
not in populated areas.
17. Question: Is it possible to locate the tower at the gas station on the
corner?
Answer: All cell companies avoid properties with environmental
concerns. Gas stations typically have gasoline -contaminated
soil. We are required to perform a (National Environmental
Policy Act (NEPA) compliance report, Environmental Phase I
and sometimes even a Phase II to determine if there is any
environmental concern before we build. If we were to disturb
contaminated soil, they would come after us, so we're careful
to make sure that the soil under our projects is not
contaminated. So we avoid gas stations.
18. Question: It's tricky in situations between commercial and residential.
Whose rights prevail and whose interpretation is used when
a residence has been there prior to a cell phone tower? Also,
can trees be planted to screen the view?
Answer: The ground equipment will be screened from residents' view
by two cedar fences.
(Anne Aspen): Both commercial and residential property
owners have property rights. Each can do with their
property what is allowed by the zoning and regulations in
place subject to the City's development review process.
Later after the meeting: research shows that the Cedarwood
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Answer: (Anne Aspen): Don't know who would be responsible. This is
outside the scope of this meeting. Good question to ask the
FCC. They have a website.
11. Question: The backside of King Sooper's is adjacent to residential
properties. The front side is commercial. Why not put it on
the front side?
Answer: We talked with the property owner (not King Sooper's) about
this. We had to consider the existing King Sooper's parking
and the possibility of a King Sooper's expansion. The cell
tower equipment takes up about 12 feet by 20 feet. King
Sooper's couldn't afford to lose the space for parking or the
expansion. We had initially looked at collocating on the
Cingular site at the south end of the shopping center behind
Farmer's Table, then the front of King Sooper's and finally on
the backside, where there is unused space and where it is
already more industrial with semis on the service aisle and
trash compactors.
12. Question: There must be a good reason why all these other folks
turned this proposal down. They must not want the visual
impacts or radiation either. Why do they get to say no but
we don't?
Answer: (Anne Aspen): Many churches and most businesses welcome
cell phone towers because the rent they pay is very good.
Aside from the reasons given already by the Bethel Church
and King Sooper's, I cannot speculate on why they turned
down the offer. Those were private negotiations between the
property owners and this business. This is just the second
formal request the City has received and reviewed, the first
being the previous proposal which was denied.
13. Question: Is it possible that as technology changes to smaller or less
obtrusive equipment, these towers can be taken down?
Answer: Yes, in Fort Collins, if a structure is abandoned for more
than a certain amount of time, it must be taken down. I
don't foresee that kind of technological change though —I
suspect that the next leap will be to satellites. We are
meeting customer demand with these cell towers. A recent
study showed that 65% or more of all emergency calls were
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that are zoned for commercial uses. In the northwest part of
town, these zone districts are small and somewhat far
between. This shopping center is zoned NC —Neighborhood
Commercial.
5. Question: Are there other health concerns? Will it affect pacemakers?
Answer: We worked with the Adams County School District on
locating a cell tower at one of their schools. They required a
3rd party test to show that there would be no adverse effects
from the tower. The school area was mapped and the report
showed that a microwave oven in the kitchen had much
higher radiation readings by far than the cell phone tower.
Cell phone towers operate on frequencies which are only for
cell phone communications and which are strictly regulated
by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and do
not interfere with the frequencies for pacemakers or
televisions etc. We have facilities on retirement homes,
hospitals, and universities.
6. Question: But is there a danger?
Answer: The Telecommunications Act of 1996 also requires us to
operate at or under certain radiation levels. If we don't, we
can lose our license to transmit. ,
7. Comment: But that is the fox guarding the henhouse. Government is in
bed with corporations!
8. Comment: (Wendy Clark): My primary issue is visual. I am upset
that I must go through this process again to get this
Project shot down.
9. Question: Why not put the tower at Bethel Baptist Church?
Answer: We tried. We had a contract with the church but they would
have lost some parking and their parking is restricted. We
also talked with Shepherd of the Hills Church.
10. Question: What if health concerns with these towers becomes an issue
down the road? Who will be responsible? Especially if the
cell phone companies go out of business.
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(Anne Aspen): This applicant submitted a proposal that was
denied at an administrative hearing. This applicant learned
what was unacceptable about that proposal and has made a
new proposal that he believes corrects the issue. Just like
anyone present at the meeting, this property owner has the
right correct issues and to apply again. This neighborhood
meeting was not required but is being held to give the
neighborhood an opportunity to respond to this amended
proposal. The information shared here tonight will be
reflected in the notes from the meeting and will be reviewed
by the Administrative Hearing Officer at the second
administrative hearing.
2. Comment: There is no buffer between the residences and the
proposed equipment. This will shoot my property values
down.
Response: On a recent project in Delta County, I checked assessor
records before and a couple years after a similar wireless
facility was constructed. The property values had increased.
3. Comment: I am concerned about the visibility of the tower. I don't see a
big difference from the last proposal. (Wendy Clark): It looks
like you Just moved it a few feet. It may be better for
some residents but it is worse for me.
Response: The tower was moved approximately 60 feet to the southeast,
up against the King Soopers building, where mature trees
will screen the view from the residences.
4. Question: Cell phone towers emit radiation. What about how it will
affect soft tissue in our bodies?
Answer: (Anne Aspen): There is certainly a lot of debate about
radiation from cell phone towers out there on the web etc.
and your concerns may be valid, but there is a federal act
called the 1996 Telecommunications Act which prohibits
municipalities from denying these types of projects because
we don't want them or based on health concerns. If we deny
a project for one of these reasons, we open ourselves to legal
liability. Municipalities do have the ability to dictate which
zone districts in a city will allow cell phone towers. In Fort
Collins, we only allow cell phone towers in our zone districts
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NEIGHBORHOOD INFORMATION MEETING
PROJECT: King Soopers (Cedarwood Plaza) Wireless Telecommunication
Facility Project Development Plan (PDP) # 38-06A
DATE: August 20, 2007
APPLICANT: Chris Stryker, Stryker Site Services, representing T-Mobile
CITY PLANNER: Anne Aspen
This is a second request to install a wireless monopole on the west side of the
Cedarwood Plaza in the service drive aisle, behind the King Sooper's grocery
store. The first request was denied by the City of Fort Collins Hearing Officer
for failure to meet compatibility standards of the Land Use Code. The
applicant has revised their proposal and moved the proposed wireless
monopole closer to the King Sooper's building and further to the south, where
it is anticipated that mature trees will screen it better for adjacent neighbors.
This neighborhood meeting is not required by Code, but the applicant agreed to
participate since there was substantial controversy at the first hearing.
The meeting started just after 6:30pm. After a general introduction by Anne
Aspen and an overview of the City's development review process, Chris Stryker
walked the audience through the proposal. Anne opened up the meeting to a
question and answer session. The following questions and comments are those
posed by audience members. Answers were provided by the applicant unless
otherwise noted. Comments made multiple times by at least one attendee are
in bold and underlined.
QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS, RESPONSES
1. Comment (by Wendy Clark): I know you are proposing this project to
increase the coverage for your customers but I don't
appreciate that the tower is so close to our residences. I'm
not one of your customersl
Question: How many meetings will the City have before this
protect is shot down?
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