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MEMO
To: Steve Olt
City of Fort Collins Planning Department June 08, 2009
281 North College Avenue
Fort Collins, CO 80522-0580
Project: Centre Avenue Residences
Steve,
We are looking at a potential site change option for the Centre Ave Residences project. We
would like to run it by you to see what if any impact it would have from the Planning Department on
the current design, scheduled and status as we are on consent for P and Z Hearing.
Currently our site is designed with a 12'-0" fire lane connecting the two parking lots off Centre
Avenue and Worthington Circle. This fire lane (emergency access plaza) is designed to
accommodate emergency vehicles as well as offer the community a useable exterior space (see
exhibit A). We would like to explore the concept of using this emergency access plaza for drop off and
pickup access to the buildings (see exhibit B). This would allow a more convenient way for the
community to access the buildings. This lane one-way lane would be restricted, with posted signs, for
"drop off / pick up" only and will occasionally be used by both tenants and concierge service. We
would also create a larger more usable plaza that would double as a "pull off / pick up" lane which
alleviates possible blocking or interference with cars and emergency vehicles in this area.
It is our goal to create a site which serves the community and offers the best solutions to any
potential problems. We feel this option would enhance the design as well as offer solutions to any
traffic conflicts. We appreciate you taking the time to review this and offer any advice that you may
have. Please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns.
Thanks again for your time,
Vaught Frye Ripley Design Inc. - Luis Hinojosa
VAUGHT FRYE RIPLEY DESIGN INC.
401 W. Mountain Ave., Suite 200 ■ Fort Collins, CO 80521 a tel. 970.224.1191 ■ fax 970.224.1662 ■ www.vfrdesigninc.com
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From: "Brent Cooper" <brent.cooper@vfrdesigninc.com>
To: "Steve Olt" <SOLT@fcgov.com>
Date: 6/10/2009 1:11 PM
Subject: Centre Avenue Residences
CC:<luis.hinojosa@vfrdesigninc.com>
Hi Steve -
Attached is the color rendering and architectural perspective for Centre Avenue Residences
In exploring the fire access plaza.doubling as a 'pick-up drop-off only' route, we feel a better design for the
plaza was created in the process. Therefore the rendering reflects the revised central space, which works well
regardless of what uses will be acceptable on it.
Option A would keep it exclusively as a fire access route, same as before, while Option B would also allow
occasional 'pick-up drop off uses, a beneficial service in a community targeted toward an older population.
Option B was designed with safety considerations in mind, referencing elements suggested in section 3.2.2(C) of
the Fort Collins Land -Use Code. While the daily traffic through this one-way lane should be minimal, steps were
taken to minimize potential hazards for the pedestrian. The entire plaza is concrete paving, distinguishing it from
the asphalt parking lot so that it is clear that this isn't a drive lane for thru traffic. In addition, the concrete plaza
will be made of 2 different shades of colored concrete. A 4' band will be the same grey color as all pedestrian
walks in the site, while an 8' colored concrete band would guide the occasional automobile.
A pull of area near the center of the plaza not only creates an area of refuge for pedestrians, but it provides an
area for a car to pull off to pick someone up near all main entrances without blocking the 12' fire access lane.
Additionally, signage will indicate the lane is to only be used for'pick-up drop-off purposes and emergency
access.
I hope this explains our design intent clearly. Please let Luis or I know if there are further questions, and whether
Option B looks like something that can be supported by staff, keeping us on the consent agenda for P&Z.
Thanks,
brent cooper
VAUGHT FRYE RIPLEY
Design Inc.
401 W. Mountain Ave., Suite 200
Fort Collins, CO 80521
tel. 970.224.1191, ext. 122
fax. 970.224.1662
brent.cooper@vfrdesigninc.com
-----Original Message -----
From: Steve Olt [mailto:SOLT@fcgov.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 7:51 AM
To: linda.ripley@vfrdesigninc.com
Subject: Centre Avenue Residences
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From: Peter Barnes
To: Steve Olt
Date: 6/10/2009 2:20:49 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Centre Avenue Residences
Option B seems to incorporate the design elements you and I talked about yesterday.
Peter
>>> Steve Olt 6/10/2009 1:45 PM >>>
Update on the combined emergency access/pedestrian/occasional vehicle lane internal to the site,
attached.
Steve
CC: Andrew Carney; Carie Dann; Steve Dush
Re: Centre Avenue Residence -
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Steve Olt - Re: Centre Avenue Residences
From: Carie Dann <cdann@poudre-fire.org>
To: Steve Olt <SOLT@fcgov.com>, Andrew Carney <ACarney@fcgov.com>, GroupWise
Address <PBARNES@fcgov.com>, Steve Dush <SDush@fcgov.com>
Date: 6/11/2009 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: Centre Avenue Residences
Steve,
From my experience, the "pick up/drop off" concept rarely works. This is the same concept in place at many of
the PSD schools and it's a constant battle trying to keep our fire lane clear of parked vehicles. If people see a flat
area next to a building, they think they can park there. However, Option B does appear to at least attempt to
make it obvious that parking is not allowed, and the signs would help, too. Older adults are more likely to obey
the signs although it's still every American's God-given right to park wherever he/she wants.
A few questions:
• On Option B, what is the "ramp" shown on the west and east ends of the plaza? Do we know the grade of
these ramps?
• What is the height above grade of the seatwalls?
Probably either A or B would work, but I'd like the applicant to provide answers to the above questions.
Thanks,
Carie
On 6/10/09 1:44 PM, "Steve Olt" <SOLT@fcaov.com> wrote:
Update on the combined emergency access/pedestrian/occasional vehicle lane internal to the site,
attached.
Steve
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Steve Olt - RE: Re: Centre Avenue Residences
From: "Luis Hinojosa"<luis.hinojosa@vfrdesigninc.com>
To: "Brent Cooper" <bcooper@vfavfr.com>, "Steve Olt' <SOLT@fcgov.com>
Date: 6/11/2009 3:27 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Centre Avenue Residences
CC: "Stan Everitt" <Stane@everittcompanies.com>
Steve,
Thanks for the comments. I do think our "pick up/Drop off' option would have substantially less traffic than a
school. The traffic would also be at random times not at peak hours such as a school would have. I would not
see more than a handful of vehicles a day using this option. We would install signage to indicate both one-way
and drop off/ pick up only. To answer Carie's questions:
- The grade of the ramp would be less than 5%.
- The top of the seat walls are at 18".
Please let us know if you have any other questions or concerns
Thanks for your help,
Luis Hinojosa
VAUGHT FRYE RIPLEY Design Inc.
401 W. Mountain Ave., Suite 200
Fort Collins, CO 80521
tel. 970.224.1191, ext. 113
fax. 970.224.1662
luis.hinojosa@vfrdesigninc.com
-----Original Message -----
From: Steve Olt [mailto:SOLT@fcgov.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:45 PM
To: Brent Cooper; luis.hinojosa@vfrdesigninc.com
Subject: Fwd: Re: Centre Avenue Residences
Luis and Brent,
FYI, please see Carie Dann's comments (Poudre Fire Authority), attached.
Steve
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