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From: Troy Jones
To: Clark Mapes; Susan Joy, Tom Reiff
Date: 1 /15/04 1:52P M
Subject: Re: Closing thoughts Scott St
You sumed it up well
>>> Clark Mapes 01/15104 09:33AM >>>
Closing thoughts regarding an SID:
I see no time in the future when our Scott Street idea would be a special benefit to Cambridge House for
which they could be assessed. Their property works fine for them as is and they don't much care whether
their tenants have a sidewalk down to Elizabeth Street. Whatever benefit one could find for tenants.
would probably be offset by the brain damage and the change to the integrity of the property in the switch
from on -site parking to off -site, on -street parking.
The only "benefit" I can see at all is if we denied any expansions until Scott Street is brought up to a
standard. This is the "hostage" situation Troy mentioned. (The "benefit" would be that we would then
release our lock on the property).
Of course we're not doing that as we just told them and as agreed in the Campus West Study. And rightly
so in this case, in my opinion - the link between the east side parking lot and Scott Street is pretty weak.
Unfortunately for good town planning, I have to wonder if the City would have to PAY THEM to get Scott
Street.
I share these closing thoughts just for common understanding and to see if you have any others. Then I'll
delete this and go back to wait -and -see mode. Thanks.
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study underway for the expansion of the Cambridge House,
Apartments. 'Traffic foracists indicate that both accesses will
generltc 300--350 daily traffic movements. Therefore, according
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is unparking. Since the accesses to West Plum Street- are the only two
accr saes to Che site, an unparking vehicle from a perpendicular space
will. 1_ikcly back to the south so that it is facing north in order that
it can enter West Plum Streets in a forward direction. Under the
proposal, an entering vehicle (20' long) will have sufficient area
for storage, completely out of West Plum Street. The unparking
maneuver takes 5-10 seconds. since the entering vehicle has the
right-of-way, the unparking vehicle must yield to an entering vehicle.
Therefore, the only time an entering vehicle would be delayed is if
the unparking maneuver was begun before the entering vehicle arrived.
As such, the delay might be 1-5 seconds. With this little delay, the
probabil.i_ty of two or more entering vehicles arriving in the 1-5
second window is very small. There is little chance that a second
entering vehic:Le would be stopped in the travel .Lane of West Plum
Street. It is concluded that the proposal would not create an unsafe
condition.
910 reinforce this conclusion that it will not be an unsafe
condition, accident data was obtained from the M rt Collins Traffic
Operations Department. The current situation is that the parking
setback is 10 feet_. This is not even enough for one vehicle to wait
for an unparking vehicle without extending into the travel lane of
West Plum Street_. In the last 2" years, there were three reported
accidents. One accident occurred during the peak hour (5:OOpm).
Police were not called. It was a minor property damage only accident.
There were no details regarding this accident. The report was filed
by one of the parties. A property damage only accident occurred at
about 7:OOpm. it: was a "hit and run" accident where at vehicle struck
a parked car. This accident was not caused by insufficient parking
setback, since one of the vehicles was not moving. The third accident -
occurred at 4:OOam. It was a property damage only accident. Police
were not called. The report was filed by one of the parties after the
fact:. There were no details regarding this accident. This accident
history indicates that the current condition is not unsafe. Since the
proposed condition will be an improvement, it would also not be
unsafe.
The variances from the parking setback s.."adard at each access
will not be detrimental to the public health, welfare, and safety.
Please cal] me with any questions or if you require additional
information regarding these variance requests.
Sincerely,
Matthew J. DeILch, P.P.
Susan Joy - Re: sign in right of way Page 1
From: Peter Barnes
To: Cam McNair; Lance Newlin; Polly Bennett, Susan Joy, Troy Jones
Date: 1/16/04 8:11AM
Subject: Re: sign in right of way
Actually, per a previous ruling from the City Attorney's office, no signs are allowed in the ROW except
those in Section 24-1 of the City Code, so I don't believe this sign would be allowed. We deal with
something similar to this; quite often whenever the City widens a street and has to acquire additional ROW
and a business has an existing sign that ends up in the ROW as a result of the project. In those
instances, the City has to pay the property owner the cost of moving the sign or constructing a new sign
on private property. We are in the process right now of having to pay a number of businesses on West
Elizabeth who have to move their existing signs out of the new proposed ROW. So I'm of the opinion that
it isn't possible for Cambridge House to get an encroachment permit. (Even if we could issue an
encroachment permit, we wouldn't be able to issue a sign permit, which is required by the sign code, since
the sign wouldn't comply with the sign setback regulations of the sign code).
>>> Cam McNair 01/15/04 04:57PM >>>
We could do this with an Encroachment Permit. Susan, could you work with Lance on that?
>>> Troy Jones 01/15/04 04:40PM >>>
Cam and Peter,
Susan Joy and I weren't sure who to direct this question to, so I'll try both of you. As part of the
Cambridge Lofts Apartments PDP, we are asking for additional right of way to be dedicated along Plum
Street, adjacent to the existing Cambridge House Apartments. We're not requiring any street
improvements to be done to Plum at this time, but just having the right of way dedicated for potential
future widening. The owner has been planning to put a monument sign for the apartments in that area
that is currently on his property but would be in the right of way after this development is approved. What
would be the process for him to request to put that monument sign in that right of way until such time that
the street is widened?
Troy
CC: Susan Joy
Susan Joy - Re: sign in right of way Page 1
From: Troy Jones
To: Cam McNair, Lance Newlin, Susan Joy
Date: 1/16/04 8:43AM
Subject: Re: sign in right of way
Currently there's a 20'+ on -site front yard beweeen the building and the right of way. We are going to be
asking for 18 feet of additional right-of-way for potential future widening of Plum. Once the 18 feet
becomes public, this yard area will be mostly within the right of way. It sounds like, based on Peter's
response, that they won't be able to put this sign there once it's dedicated as right-of-way. That's what I'll
tell the applicant.
Troy
>>> Lance Newlin 01/16/04 08:29AM >>>
Why can't the monument sign be put on private property now and not have to move it after we obtain the
R.O.W. then it will be in its permanent location.
Lance
>>> Cam McNair 01/15/04 04:57PM >>>
We could do this with an Encroachment Permit. Susan, could you work with Lance on that?
>>> Troy Jones 01/15/04 04:40PM >>>
Cam and Peter,
Susan Joy and I weren't sure who to direct this question to, so I'll try both of you. As part of the
Cambridge Lofts Apartments PDP, we are asking for additional right of way to be dedicated along Plum
Street, adjacent to the existing Cambridge House Apartments. We're not requiring any street
improvements to be done to Plum at this time, but just having the right of way dedicated for potential
future widening. The owner has been planning to put a monument sign for the apartments in that area
that is currently on his property but would be in the right of way after this development is approved. What
would be the process for him to request to put that monument sign in that right of way until such time that
the street is widened?
Troy
CC: Susan Joy
CC: Peter Barnes, Polly Bennett
Susan Joy - Re: sign in right of way
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From: Peter Barnes
To: Cam McNair, Lance Newlin, Susan Joy, Troy Jones
Date: 1/16/04 8:43AM
Subject: Re: sign in right of way
As indicated in my earlier email (attached), whenever the City acquires ROW, any signs that are in that
ROW have to be moved out of the ROW. They can't stay. i.e what we're currently having to pay to do on
W. Elizabeth in Campus West.
>>> Lance Newlin 01 /16/04 08:29AM >>>
Why can't the monument sign be put on private property now and not have to move it after we obtain the
R O.W. then it will be in its permanent location.
Lance
>>> Cam McNair 01/15/04 04:57PM >>>
We could do this with an Encroachment Permit. Susan, could you work with Lance on that?
>>> Troy Jones 01/15/04 04:40PM >>>
Cam and Peter,
Susan Joy and I weren't sure who to direct this question to, so I'll try both of you. As part of the
Cambridge Lofts Apartments PDP, we are asking for additional right of way to be dedicated along Plum
Street, adjacent to the existing Cambridge House Apartments. We're not requiring any street
improvements to be done to Plum at this time, but just having the right of way dedicated for potential
future widening. The owner has been planning to put a monument sign for the apartments in that area
that is currently on his property but would be in the right of way after this development is approved. What
would be the process for him to request to put that monument sign in that right of way until such time that
the street is widened?
Troy
CC: Susan Joy
CC: Polly Bennett
Susan Joy - Re: sign in right of way Page 1
From: Cam McNair
To: Lance Newlin; Susan Joy; Troy Jones
Date: 1/16/04 8:48AM
Subject: Re: sign in right of way
I think the ROW dedication that is contemplated would go back almost to the building facade that is
already there, so there may not be room left to construct the monument sign.
The additional ROW is not going to be built on anytime soon. This is just an opportunity to get it dedicated
so that eventual widening of Plum Street won't cost so much. But it could be 10-20 years or more before
the actual improvements to Plum St occur.
Considering Peter's comments, maybe we just need to do the same thing we are doing on Scott Street
and have them dedicates an access easement rather than ROW, in order to reserve the space for eventual
dedication or acquisition as ROW. I hate to adversely impact the business, so let's see if we can come up
with a practical compromise. Does anyone have other ideas?
Cam
>>> Lance Newlin 01/16/04 08:29AM >>>
Why can't the monument sign be put on private property now and not have to move it after we obtain the
R.O.W then it will be in its permanent location.
Lance
>>> Cam McNair 01/15/04 04:57PM >>>
We could do this with an Encroachment Permit. Susan, could you work with Lance on that?
>>> Troy Jones 01/15/04 04:40PM >>>
Cam and Peter,
Susan Joy and I weren't sure who to direct this question to, so I'll try both of you. As part of the
Cambridge Lofts Apartments PDP, we are asking for additional right of way to be dedicated along Plum
Street, adjacent to the existing Cambridge House Apartments. We're not requiring any street
improvements to be done to Plum at this time, but just having the right of way dedicated for potential
future widening. The owner has been planning to put a monument sign for the apartments in that area
that is currently on his property but would be in the right of way after this development is approved. What
would be the process for him to request to put that monument sign in that right of way until such time that
the street is widened?
Troy
CC: Susan Joy
CC: Dave Stringer; Peter Barnes, Polly Bennett
Susan Joy - Re: sign in right of way
From: Cam McNair
To: Lance Newlin; Paul Eckman;
Date: 2/4/04 11:53AM
Subject: Re: sign in right of way
Peter Barnes, Polly Bennett; Susan Joy, Troy Jones
Yes. We (staff) had discussed this option previously, and the call from Don Brookshire came to me
yesterday. I don't think we will be widening Plum St anytime soon, so as long as we have a way to reserve
the space for future ROW, such as the public access easement used on Scott St, then I think that should
suffice for now.
Let me know if we need to discuss this further.
Cam
>>> Susan Joy 02/04/04 10:46AM >>>
I just got a voicemail from Don Brookshire/Cambridge House Apartments saying that they were given the
option of dedicating an 18' public access easement instead of ROW so that they could construct their sign
in what would be the future ROW. I am to call him back to confirm this. Is this true?
>>> Peter Barnes 01/113/04 08:11AM >>>
Actually, per a previous ruling from the City Attorney's office, no signs are allowed in the ROW except
those in Section 24-1 of the City Code, so I don't believe this sign would be allowed. We deal with
something similar to this quite often whenever the City widens a street and has to acquire additional ROW
and a business has an existing sign that ends up in the ROW as a result of the project. In those
instances, the City has to pay the property owner the cost of moving the sign or constructing a new sign
on private property. We are in the process right now of having to pay a number of businesses on West
Elizabeth who have to move their existing signs out of the new proposed ROW. So I'm of the opinion that
it isn't possible for Cambridge House to get an encroachment permit. (Even if we could issue an
encroachment permit, we wouldn't be able to issue a sign permit, which is required by the sign code, since
the sign wouldn't comply with the sign setback regulations of the sign code).
>>> Cam McNair 01/15/04 04:57PM >>>
We could do this with an Encroachment Permit. Susan, could you work with Lance on that?
>>> Troy Jones 01/15/04 04:40PM >>>
Cam and Peter,
Susan Joy and I weren't sure who to direct this question to, so 1'11 try both of you. As part of the
Cambridge Lofts Apartments PDP, we are asking for additional right of way to be dedicated along Plum
Street, adjacent to the existing Cambridge House Apartments. We're not requiring any street
improvements to be done to Plum at this time, but just having the right of way dedicated for potential
future widening. The owner has been planning to put a monument sign for the apartments in that area
that is currently on his property but would be in the right of way after this development is approved. What
would be the process for him to request to put that monument sign in that right of way until such time that
the street is widened?
Troy
CC: Susan Joy
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>>> Eric Bracke 02/19/04 09:16AM >>>
Dear Mr. Brookshire,
Under the circumstances, I don't see a need for a Traffic Study for your project at 502 Laurel Street.
Please consider the requirement to prepare a TIS waived.
You need to check with Tom Reiff in Transportation Planning to see if he will require any alternative mode
analyses. Tom's email is treiff(afcgov.com
Regards,
Eric L. Bracke, P.E., P.T.O.E.
City Traffic Engineer
(970)224-6062
ebrackena.fcgov.com
>>> "Don Brookshire" <eastpoint(a)frii.com> 02/18/04 03:45PM >>>
Eric,
I am writing to request a traffic study be waived for a proposed Apartment
building at 502 W. Laurel Street.
The proposed project will have 28 apartment units, 24-2 bedroom, and 4 - 1
Bedroom units. Currently on this site is a 15. The current facility located
here is a group home for Larimer County Detention Facilities. We have
received a letter from the Larimer County Corrections, stating that there
are currently 104 occupants, and 22 full time staff members. The site is
designed to have a maximum 28 parking spaces. Based on this information, we
feel the actual trips per day will be decreased from the current conditions.
Given this scenario, will a traffic study be required?
We currently have submitted the first PDP, and if necessary can follow up
with a study. We have a very compressed time schedule, as we put together
the PDP Submittal over the past two weeks, and at this time Matt Dellich
cannot begin a study, based on his current work load.
Please let me know if this requirement can be waived, or what information we
will need to get to you for further review.
Thank you very much for your consideration in this matter.
Donald Brookshire
A Design Collaborative
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3207 Kittery Ct.
Fort Collins, CO 80526
phone (970)207.1973
fax (970) 206.0183
e-mail eastpoint(a,)frii.com
July 29, 2003
Matthew Dehlich, P.E.
2272 Glen Haven Drive
Fort Collins, CO 80538
RE: Cambridge House — Variance request for Reducing the Minimum Parking Setback
Dear Matthew,
This letter is in response to the variance request, dated July 15, 2003, to reduce the
minimum parking setback off of Plum Street from the 50' required by code to 28'.
The variance request is granted for 28' from the current flow line.
This variance request does not set a precedence or change the application of our design
standards in other situations. If you have any questions, please contact Susan Joy at
221-6605.
Sincerely,
Susan Joy
Development Review Engineer
Cc: Troy Jones, file