HomeMy WebLinkAboutWESTCHASE PUD LOT 3 LDS CHURCH - Filed GC-GENERAL CORRESPONDENCE - 2005-03-08May 10 Ih 2004
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Fort Collins, CO 80522
Current Planning,
Below is the statement of planning objectives for the new LDS Church on Lot 3 of
the West Chase PUD.
i) The objective of the LDS church is to become part of the neighborhood
community. This is achieved by having the church located on the site within
close proximity to the residential homes but also next to the future daycare center.
The church has chosen materials that will blend with the neighborhood materials
to provide a strong architectural connection. The site is generously landscape at
45.5% openness. The building footprint uses only 11.5% of the site.
ii) The LDS Church is proposing a future 30' x 60' open structure pavilion on the
north end of the site. This will be for picnics, family functions and possible
recreational activities. The site has many trees and the is building set far back
from the Timberline and Trilby intersections. There is landscape buffing along
Timberline with a grade drop for separation.
iii) The LDS Church plans on maintaining ownership of said property and will
maintain the open areas, landscaping, site easements, and sidewalks along their
property lines.
iv) Their are no church employees that will be working in the building
day on Sunday this access will operate as normal driveway which has the spacing criteria
of only 50'. There will be no health, safety or welfare problems created by this variance.
please accept this request for variance as reasonable solutions to the constraints of the
area. Thank you for your positive consideration of this item.
Respectfully Submitted
Donald W. Park, p.[i.
Project Manager
Cc: Bryan Keys
File3781 variancerequest
v) The rational for the LDS church is to develop the property is to blend with the
existing neighborhood fabric and become a committed member of the community.
vi) The applicant has met the minimum submittal requirements and has
exceeded them by providing many more drawings, renderings and documents.
vii) There are no wetlands or conflicts with natural habitats. See attached
environmental report.
viii) This project was annexed into the city from Larimer County. There was no
neighborhood or neighborhood meeting during development and acceptance in
the county. It was understood and accepted by the city of Fort Collins that a
church was to be built on Lot 3.
ix) Previous project name was West Chase Church.
Please review all submitted documents and drawings. The church has met and
exceeded your submittal guidelines. If you have any questions or need additional
information please contact me.
Sincerely,
Jeffery S. Krueger
Krueger Architects & Planners Inc.
(970) 980-9503
(970 980-8435 fax
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Sheri Wamho'rf - Westchase Irrigation Line Page 1
From: <jim_leflar@agilent.com>
To: <swamhoff@fcgov.com>
Date: 9/29/04 1:43PM
Subject: Westchase Irrigation Line
To: Sheri Wamhoff, P.E
Re: Irrigation Pipeline on Proposed Church Property at Timberline & Trilby Roads--Westchase PUD
I spoke with you yesterday outside your office about this project. I am one of the users of the pipeline's
irigation water. However, as I mentioned in our conversation the Westchase Homeowner's Association
owns the pipeline and they are financially liable for any future repairs that it may require. I now have further
information which I believe that you should have.
The HOA's management firm is Management Specialists in Denver. Their phone number is 303-754-0721
The president of the Westchase HOA is Mr. Bill James of U.S. Homes. (The actual homeowners have not
yet become officers in the HOA because the builders still control a large percentage of the building sites.)
His phone number is 303-944-4983.
I had my real estate attorney review the contract between the water users of the pipeline and the
Westchase HOA. He advised me that if I am a party to any changes in the pipeline condition, now that it's
construction has been completed, I may be tainting the maintenance contract --essentially voiding it. This
contract refers to "The Pipeline" and defines "The Pipeline" as it was designed to be constructed in the
original Westchase drawings. Were I to agree to change the pipeline design in such a way that increases
the financial liability of the HOA, I am essentially voiding our agreement. So I must go on record as
opposing any changes in the manhole height or earth cover over the pipeline. (I contacted the pipeline
manufacturer and we are already at minimum cover per their specifications.)
I also spoke with Mr. James who represents the HOA. He also agreed that he could not support any
changes in the pipeline condition, as he has a responsibility to the present and future Westchase
homeowners regarding their liability in this matter.
So, what started out as an engineering question has become a legal question instead. It is not relevant
that lowering one of the pipeline's manholes may not cause water to overflow the manhole. The real
problem is that the contractual arrangements between the water users and the pipline owners will not
permit changes in the pipeline that increase the HOA's financial risk.
At the current time, none of the water users nor the HOA will approve of any changes in manhole height
nor earth cover over the pipeline. We are requiring that the church architect make no changes to the
topography of the pipeline easement and to make no changes to the pipeline itself.
I am informing Park Engineering in Denver (303/651-6397) of these facts.
I would greatly appreciate you keeping me informed of any meetings that may take place regarding this
issue in the future so that I can represent our interests. I truly wish that I could be more accomodating to
the church architect but, under the current circumstances, there is no way that any of us will agree to what
they are proposing.
Thank you,
Jim Leflar
6850 Timberline Road
Fort Collins, CO 80528
970-288-2331
Sheri Warr ioff Re: Westchase LDS Church Page 1
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From: Anne Aspen
To: Basil Hamdan, Cameron Gloss, David Averill, Glen Schlueter, Janet Mctague, Sheri
Wamhoff
Date: 10/ 1 /04 10:24AM
Subject: Re: Westchase LDS Church
Hi all,
I talked with the Denver LDS project manager Jeff Scott (Jeff Krueger's old and now Brian Keys' new
boss) about the Westchase project right after staff review Wednesday. Because of the delay for the
unexpected raptor buffer zone modification process they had to go through and because a condition of
that modification was timing of construction constraints (can't do work on the site or exterior of the building
between March 1- July 15), they must either break ground pronto or wait a year and a half to build the
church.
We all knew this was the case, and Jeff Krueger had indicated to me and to Jeff Scott a few weeks ago
that he had addressed all the issues from the first round of review. Clearly we saw that that wasn't the
case at staff review. I let Jeff Scott know that if they wanted to break ground in November (and yes, I
made it clear that that was a very ambitious goal), that Jeff and the engineer would need to get a move on
the comments and communicate with us to make sure they really had everything addressed to Code.
Jeff Scott decided that the best course of action would be to hire a different architect. He's hired the best
he's got in Colorado- unfortunately Brian is in Colorado Springs so I imagine there's going to be increased
running around and headache (for Jeff Scott anyhow). I've emailed Brian Keys to give him a heads -up
that our Code is available on the web, and I've assmebled info from the first and second round of review.
We've got the meeting scheduled on Tuesday to get Brian, Jeff Scott and the engineer up to speed. It is
Jeff Scott's fervent hope that with Brian's expertise they can get everything in good shape in time to break
ground in November.
The way I've left it with Jeff Scott is that if they can address the issues that we need resolved to go to
hearing pronto, I will arrange an informal review and schedule their hearing as soon as possible, though
that will be about 3 weeks out from when they're ready because we need time for public notification of the
hearing.
Meanwhile though, I've told him that they should be working fast and furious on all the rest of the issues
and that they should initiate the final compliance round of review as soon as possible. I've told him that
final compliance can overlap the hearing process since I don't anticipate any problems with the PDP
getting approval.
I've let Jeff Scott know that I will do my part to make sure the transition is smooth and that we will work to
get them through in time. He knows that it comes down to what we have to work with from the new
architect and engineer.
Sheri just came in to tell me there are potential problems with the irrigation users, so now that I've written
you all a tome, I've gotta go put out another fire.
See you on Tuesday and let me know if you have any concerns about the above. Thanks,
Anne
>>> Sheri Wamhoff 10/01/04 08:57AM >>>
Anne
I am available to meet next Tuesday from 10:30-12 and 1:30-2:30
1 have given you my comments, technical services comments and transportation planning comments.
I would be able to do an informal review for the three items I wanted addressed prior to being able to go to
Sheri Warr hoff - Re: Westchase LDS Church Page 2
hearing. For a full review (which I don't think is necessary before hearing) I would like the standard review
period.
Sheri
>>> Anne Aspen 09/29/04 12:09PM >>>
Hi all,
Jeff Scott, the regional LDS project manager called to let me know that he has switched architects. The
new architect is from Colorado Springs and is his most competant architect in Colorado. He says this guy
should be able to address everything very quickly. He still hopes to be able to break ground in November.
The new architect (I don't know his name yet) is hoping to meet with us this coming Tuesday, October 4th
to get a jump on this. He will review the plans on Monday. Jeff Scott will Fedex them to him on Friday.
SO:
#1. When can you meet on Tuesday? We won't start until at least 10 am since he's driving up
from Colorado Springs. Let me know your schedules and I'll arrange.
#2. Please do your best to make your comments clear to a new consultant
#3. Please finalize your comments preferably by Thursday (TOMORROW) Spm and get me/Sheri
your redlines so I can have them ready first thing Friday morning if at all possible. If you can't, let
me know.
I'd also like your thoughts on whether we can review without a formal round of review. They'd like to go to
hearing in mid October if possible. I'd like to honor that and have them also submit right away for Final
Compliance to overlap. Thoughts?
Thanks,
Anne
Sheri YJamhoff - RE: Westchase Irrigation Line
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From: <jim_leflar@agilent.com>
To: <SWAMHOFF@fcgov.com>
Date: 1011104 9:57AM
Subject: RE: Westchase Irrigation Line
Sheri,
The same day that I spoke to you I also spoke to the Westchase HOA president and the engineer at Park
Engineering in Denver who is working on this project. I conveyed to the engineer the difficulties that would
be created by changing any part of the pipeline construction or its cover. He accepted our inputs and
conveyed his understanding. He also informed me that --at that moment, at least --he would attempt to
revise his topography for the project and not intrude onto the pipeline easement with any signficant
changes of our concerns.
So, I'm not sure what plans you were given most recently to review. I myself have never received a set of
plans. All of my information about this project came to me verbally by phone calls from Park Engineering.
Thank you for keeping me informed. I would like to attend your next review meeting on this subject and
meet all of the participants.
Jim
---Original Message -----
From: Sheri Wamhoff [mailto:SWAM HOFF@fcgov.com]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 9:44 AM
To: jim_leflar@agilent.com
Subject: Re: Westchase Irrigation Line
Jim
Thank you for the information and the great explanation. We appreciate
being informed and I will keep you informed of any meetings about this
project that I am aware of that maybe of interest to you as well as
keeping you informed as to the progress of this project.
At this time I do know that the architect is trying to schedule a
meeting for next Tuesday with the City to go over the comments on our
latest round of review.
It maybe of interest to you that the plans that were submitted for the
City review showed no changes to the irrigation line other changes to
the grade above the pipe. There was no mention of any changes to the
pipe line itself. With that I wondered if we were both seeing the same
set of plans.
Thank you again for the information and I will make sure to keep you
aware of the status of the project.
Sheri
>>> <jim_leflar@agilent.com> 09/29/04 01:42PM >>>
To: Sheri Wamhoff, P.E.
Sheri Vlamhoff - RE. Westchase Irrigation Line Page 2
Re: Irrigation Pipeline on Proposed Church Property at Timberline &
Trilby Roads--Westchase PUD
I spoke with you yesterday outside your office about this project. I am
one of the users of the pipeline's irigation water. However, as I
mentioned in our conversation the Westchase Homeowner's Association owns
the pipeline and they are financially liable for any future repairs that
it may require. I now have further information which I believe that you
should have.
The HOA's management firm is Management Specialists in Denver. Their
phone number is 303-754-0721
The president of the Westchase HOA is Mr. Bill James of U.S. Homes.
(The actual homeowners have not yet become officers in the HOA because
the builders still control a large percentage of the building sites.)
His phone number is 303-944-4983.
I had my real estate attorney review the contract between the water
users of the pipeline and the Westchase HOA. He advised me that if I am
a party to any changes in the pipeline condition, now that it's
construction has been completed, I may be tainting the maintenance
contract --essentially voiding it. This contract refers to "The Pipeline"
and defines "The Pipeline" as it was designed to be constructed in the
original Westchase drawings. Were I to agree to change the pipeline
design in such a way that increases the financial liability of the HOA,
I am essentially voiding our agreement. So I must go on record as
opposing any changes in the manhole height or earth cover over the
pipeline. (I contacted the pipeline manufacturer and we are already at
minimum cover per their specifications.)
I also spoke with Mr. James who represents the HOA. He also agreed that
he could not support any changes in the pipeline condition, as he has a
responsibility to the present and future Westchase homeowners regarding
their liability in this matter.
So, what started out as an engineering question has become a legal
question instead. It is not relevant that lowering one of the pipeline's
manholes may not cause water to overflow the manhole. The real problem
is that the contractual arrangements between the water users and the
pipline owners will not permit changes in the pipeline that increase the
HOA's financial risk.
At the current time, none of the water users nor the HOA will approve
of any changes in manhole height nor earth cover over the pipeline. We
are requiring that the church architect make no changes to the
topography of the pipeline easement and to make no changes to the
pipeline itself.
I am informing Park Engineering in Denver (303/651-6397) of these
facts.
I would greatly appreciate you keeping me informed of any meetings that
may take place regarding this issue in the future so that I can
represent our interests. I truly wish that I could be more accomodating
Sheri FYamhoff - RE: Westchase Irrigation Line
Page 3
to the church architect but, under the current circumstances, there is
no way that any of us will agree to what they are proposing.
Thank you,
Jim Leflar
6850 Timberline Road
Fort Collins, CO 80528
970-288-2331
PPARK ENGINEERING
_ CONSULTANTS
October 13. 2004
Ms Sheri Wamhoff, P-L.
City of Fort Collins
Engineering Division
281 North College Avenue
Fort Collins, Colorado 80522-0580
RE: Request for Variance of Access Separation
Fort Collins Stake Center
Dear Sheri:
The Fort Collins Stake Center is located on Lot 3, Block I of the Westchase P.U.D. 2°d
1'iling. As part of the site planning for access, an access drive onto to Carmichael Street
near the northeast corner of the site was proposed. This access point is near the
intersection of "filden Street and Carmichael Street. While developing the site plan it was
determined that the north access into the Church could only be a one way in order to
eliminate the sight distance conflict with the adjacent property. A sight easement could
not be negotiated with the property owner. As such, this access still does not meet the
requirements for "Spacing" per Section 9.2.6 (A) of the Larimer County Urban Area
Street Standards. Said section refers to Table 7-3, which shows that the spacing between
a high volume driveway and an intersection is to be a minimum of 150'. The proposed
driveway for this Project is 100' south from the intersection of Tilden Street and
Carmichael Street. This letter is submitted as a request for variance to the spacing
standard to allow 100'of spacing instead of the 150' spacing standard.
Variance For Spacing
Due to the access limitations for this site and Fire Department emergency access
requirements, two access points are required to connect to Carmichael Street. In order to
facilitate the proposed building, access points were proposed south and north along
Carmichael Street. Alternate designs were evaluated but the proposed layout became the
only reasonable solution based on the constraints of the site. The proposed variance, as
described above, will not affect the maintenance or the life expectancy of any public or
private improvements or facilities. Since the turning movements into this north access
are limited to "in only" conflicts with the adjacent intersection will be significantly less
than a full movement drive. During periods of high volume, which are limited to short
periods on Sundays, free now conditions will prevail. Six days a week and most of the
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