HomeMy WebLinkAboutLIND PROPERTY - Filed GC-GENERAL CORRESPONDENCE - 2004-08-16TIMOTHY J. DOW, MBA, 1D
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ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELORS AT LAW
P.O. BOX 1578
FORT COLLINS, COLORADO 80522-1578
(970)498-9900
Via Hand Delivery
Bob Barkeen
City of Fort Collins Current Planning
281 N. College Ave.
Fort Collins, CO 80524
FAX: (970)498-9966
E-MAIL: dow@doWlaWfh-nLwm
November 12, 2002
Re: Project #39-94B Lind Property PDP — Type II (LUC)
Our Client: Windsor Reservoir & Canal Company
Dear Mr. Barkeen:
N 7 CLOCK TOWER SQUARE
323 SOUTH COLLEGE AVENUE
FORT COLLINS, COLORADO 80524
2312 CAREY AVENUE
CHEYENNE, WYOMING 82001
(307)634-1541
I represent the Windsor Reservoir & Canal Company. We are the owners and users of the
very large ditch which generally runs along the easterly portion of this project, often known as
the "No. 8 Outfall Ditch." I have reviewed this submission with your Project Comment Sheet of
October 16, 2002. I have also reviewed the items under Storm Drainage at page 3 of the
Response to Conceptual Review Comments. On behalf of our client, we comment further as
follows:
1. Storm Drainage / Retention
We have not seen the drainage report, so we have no idea what is proposed in this regard.
A critical concern is that the retention be of sufficient quantity to hold water for a period of time
between 4 and 8 hours prior to discharging into the irrigation ditch, and then at a control rate.
This is necessary to give us the opportunity, to shut down the ditch in the event that it is flowing
at capacity at the time of a storm.
2. Access / Crossings
The ditch company needs an access of at least 25 feet running along the east side of the
ditch. Because of the size and steepness of this ditch, this access will need to be carefully
planned and worked into the future stabilization or reduction in the slope. Considering the
steepness of the ditch and the fact that there is continual falloff, even a 25-foot wide right-of-way
right now might not be adequate because if heavy equipment were operated that close to the
edge, it would likely fall into the ditch.
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some hundred and thirty years never really bothering anyone. The developers come to us — we
don't go to them'.
Bob, I will leave it up to your discretion as to what distribution you wish to make of this
Ictter as I'm sure that some of your staff would be interested.
As always, I invite the opportunity to discuss these matters in further detail so maybe we
can schedule a luncheon appointment sometime in the near future.
Yours very truly,
MS/Imh
pe: Donn Engel
P.C.
MAR-28-2003 FRI 11 08 AM FORT COLLINS UTILITIES FAX NO. 970 221 6619
P. 03/04
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(970)498•8900
Land Acquisition & Planning Director
Centex Homes
9250 E, Costilla Ave., #200
Greenwood Village, CO 80112
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March 25, 2003
Re: Our client: Windsor Reservoir and Canal Company (WRCC)
Project #39-94B
Lind Property PDP-Type 2 (LUC)
Dear Yvonne:
k 7 CLOCK TOWER SQUARE
323 SOUTH COLLEGE AVENUE
FORT COLI.INS, COLORADO 80524
231J CAREY AVENUE
CHEYENNE. W YOMING 82001
(307) 6M-1541
My enclosed comment letter to the City of Fort Collins concerning your Phase I on the Lind
Property as it relates to our ditch is self explanatory. However, I would like to pass on some thoughts
and concerns that I have based on the information available so far that will probably impact your
development plan as you proceed to other phases.
I have now been through the comprehensive (meaning one inch thick) drainage plan for Phase I
which contains a lot of very good information as it probably relates to the whole project. I have also
been through some 73 sheets of drawings supplied to me on the project. Incidentally, there are some
pond outlet details indicated on sheet CS903. This sheet was not included in the set and although it's
not of focus yet it will be in the future.
I firmly believe that a development project needs to be planned and approved globally to the
extent possible. Of course, my focus is on the impact on our ditches and irrigation facilities. I know
what is going to ultimately happen with your project because you are going to want to dump developed
stormwater from Phase I along with the other phases into the ditch. however, to make it easy and get
Phase I approved it doesn't appear that you have dealt with or choose to deal with a comprehensive
global site plan so were just going to retain the water on Phase I which doesn't create any problem for
the ditch and maybe otherwise. However, as other phases are developed then the impact on the ditch
needs to be dealt with. At that point certain commitments and decisions have been made which greatly
reduce the flexibility and the ability of the developer to do those things that we feel are required to
allow the ditch to handle their development. In this light everyone is often put under a great deal of
pressure to give and compromise because many things cannot be undone or redone and most human
MAR-2B-2003 FRI 11:09 AM FORT COLLINS UTILITIES FAX NO, 970 221 6619 P. 04/04
beings have a certain amount of instinct to try to "Work it out and keep everyone happy" — I don't
when it comes to my client's ditches and reservoirs.
so, this letter is primarily a "heads up." The "preliminary stormwater release rates" supplied to
me by Troy Campbell a few months ago indicate that the preliminary plan is to dump 25.6 CFS into
the Number 8 outlet ditch. This is not acceptable. I appreciate that these numbers come from all sorts
of engineering magic to come up with the runoff from the storage storms. The reality is that these
numbers seldom represent the true situation. A developer has great incentive to keep the numbers as
big as possible for strictly economic reasons. I believe we have had the discussion to the effect that it's
very interesting that as these ditches have for a hundred years meandered through the farm lands
storms have resulted in little, if any, overtopping of the ditches. They were receiving the "historic
storm flows" when the grounds discharged into the ditches are developed with each of them dumping
this same theoretical historic storm flow into the ditch they begin to overtop. Why has history
changed?
One extremely important factor relative to what are real storm flows (also meaning historic) is
to look at the use of the lands for the decades in the past. Your development has been cultivated since I
can remember which starts about 1956. Cultivated ground is a whole different animal that uncultivated
natural ("God made") ground as it deals with stormwater. Cultivated (and particularly row crop) fields
make a substantial difference in terms of stormwater retention. Each little furrow holds a whole bunch
of water which percolates into the soil, evaporates, or flows at a much slower rate into the ditch
because it's not gathered up and dumped at a single point.
An example of what I consider to be good planning as it concerns my clients is what is being
done with the Maple Hill subdivision to the south of yours. That project had the entire site plan
developed at one time covering the whole project which is approximately the same size as yours.
Through cooperative efforts with a developer who genuinely cares about the ongoing welfare of my
client's irrigation facilities, we have worked out a plan which will discharge approximately 10 CFS
into our ditch which we believe is a flow we can live with as the contribution from that project at such
time as all or most of the ground surrounding the ditch is developed.
There is another area that you should be sensitive to. My understand is basically the City of
Fort Collins wants to have some form of crossing these ditches approximately every 660 feet. This is
either a connector street, pedestrian bridge, or something of that sort. That number of crossings across
our ditch is not acceptable.
Yours very truly,
MAYO SOMMERMEYER, P.C.
Mayo Sommermeyer
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PC: Donn Engel
Troy Campbell, The Sear Brown Group
Robert Smith, Stormwater planning! Utilities Department, City of Fort Collins
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Steve Olt
City of Fort Collins Current Planning
281 North College
Fort Collins, CO 80524
FAX (970)498-9966
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March 25, 2003
Re: Project #39-9413
Lind Property PDP-Type 2 (LUC)
Our client: Windsor Reservoir and Canal Company
Dear Mr. Olt:
CURRENT PLANNING
9 7 CLOCK TOWER SQUARE
323 SOUTH COLLEGE AVENUE
FORT COLLINS, COLORADO 80524
2312 CAREY AVENUE
CHEYENNE, WYOMING 82001
(307) 634-1541
This will be in response to your submission of February 12a' which concerns a portion of
the overall project consisting of approximately 45 acres in the southwest corner. This portion of
the project does not abut our client's ditch, although it will influence storm water discharges into
the ditch. I believe that comments made in response to Mr. Barkeen's submittal of October 161h
by my letter of November 12, 2002 adequately addressed the stormwater issues. Therefore, we
did not respond to this submission by the requested date of March 5u' feeling that we had already
covered the bases.
However, I simply do want to emphasize that the Ditch Company has not entered into
any agreement with this developer concerning the burden that its developed storm water runoff
will have on our irrigation ditch system.
We are relying on the representation made by the developer in its project development
plan drainage and erosion control study for Lind Property Phase I dated October 15, 2002
wherein it is represented on page six that "At this time, stormwater released from the detention
pond is not allowed due to the Master Plan Update not being complete."
Yours very truly,
MAY(
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MS/Imh
PC: Troy Campbell, The Sear Brown Group
Yvonne Seaman, Centex Homes
Terence C. Hoaglund, ASLA, Vignette Studios
Kenneth Lind, Esq.
Donn Engel, Executive Secretary, Windsor Reservoir and Canal Company
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Ma rvenno Shaman
Land Ac"c ition Planter
Centex Homes
9250 East Cost!%Ave. #M
Greenwood vl 4w, Co set 12
RE: Lind Property, Filing I
Der Ms. Seaman:
Boxelder Sanitation Dirtier has reviewed the constriction plans for the development or the Lind Property,
Filing I and is aware of the proposed realignment of the 13" sanitary, sewer collector line on the property.
The district is in agreement with the proposed realignment upon the following conditions
Realignment aCtIVIU s of the aCOVe sanitary sewer collector line shall be done in accordance with
district standwds and specifications, AcwW field activities by the develoWs mzoontractas 10
accomplish the realignment vAll be subod to district oversight:
Abandoned segment of original sanitary sewer line will either be removed and the area reclaimed
to district standards and specifications, or If the line is teft in place. it shall be Slleit with concrete.
The ramedfafion of the area of the original alignment is the sole responsibility of the Lind Property
deveMpment agent(s).
The reloaded sanitary sewer line will be aligned within dedicated right -of -wry "lured the Lind
Property. Firing I, and the dtatrict will vacate the existing Sanitary sewer easement with the final plat of the
subdivLslon. This vacation will be MwmplLahed by a separate doMment following the acceptance of the
realigned san'dary sewer.
If you have arty questions regaltling this matter. please Call.
Sincerely,
Ravindra M. Srivastava
General Manager
cc: Troy Campbell. Sear-Browm
70. Box 1519 - 2217 Aireszy AVM. N3 . Fort Collins, Colorado IAr oar o.
Phone (970) 498-0604 0 Fax (970) 473.0701 & EmeU bsdOvein¢t.eom
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K & M Company
P.O. Box 2206
Ft. Collins, CO 80522
March 31, 2003
Susan Joy
City of Fort Collins
215 Nonh Mason Street
Ft Collins, CO 80524
RE: Land Property:
Dear Susan Joy,
As the Managing Partner of K & M Company I have reviewed Centex Homes proposed
realignment of the Baker Lateral. We have no problems with the change of alignment.
K & M will be previewing the construction plans as the project proceeds. The irrigation
line will be in a separate easement outside the County Road 11 right -of way.
Construction of the new irrigation line may not occur during the irrigation season
Centex homes assures me that They will coordinate with me on the timing of the
construction of the new line and demolition of the old line
Sincerely,
Thomas K. Moore
970-482-8082
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GEORGE H. OTTENHOFF
KENNETH P. LIND
KIM R. LAWRENCE
P. ANDREW JONES
RICHARD T. LIPUMA
KELLV J. CUSTER
LIND, LAWRENCE & OTTENHOFF, LLP
ATTORNEYS AT LAW
THE LAW OUILOING
1011 ELEVENTH AVENUE
P.O. BOX 326
GREELEY, COLORADO e0632
April 1, 2003
City of Fort Collins
Engineering Department - Development Review
281 North College Avenue
P.O. Box 580
Fort Collins, CO 80522-0580
Attention: Susan Joy
Via fax: (970) 221-6378
Re: Lind -Allen Property and Centex Homes
Dear Ms. Joy:
TELEPHONE
(e7p1353.2323
(970) 366a160
TELECOPIER
(970)366.1111
Centex Homes, which has purchased approximately44.945 acresfrom the Lind and
Allen families, which property is generally located in the Southwest One Quarter (SW1/,)
of Section Tweinty-nine (29), Township Eight (8) North, Range 68 West of the 6' P.M., City
of Fort Collins, Larimer County, Colorado, has requested that we advise you whether or
not the property owners will grant to Centex Homes a temporary easement for purposes
of land improvements, roadways, utilities and other on -site land developments upon
property still owned by the Lind and Allen families which adjoins the property purchased
by Centex Homes.
This request is specifically authorized pursuant to a Contract dated August 11, 2000
as entered into between Centex Homes and the Lind and Allen families. Accordingly, the
Lind and Allen families will grant to Centex Homes a temporary easement upon property
owned by the Lind and Allen families and adjoining the Centex Homes land in the above
described section for purposes of constructing and installing land improvements, roadways,
utility improvements, and all on -site land development improvementsforthe Centex parcel,
including, the rightto excavate and/or stockpile dirt, facilitate grading of the property, install
utilities and other improvements required by Centex for development of their parcel of
property. It is our understanding based upon engineering drawings provided to the
undersigned that this temporary easement will include an area of land not exceeding 2.8
acres.
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City of Fort Collins
Engineering Department - Development Review
April 1, 2003
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If you have any questions or concerns related to this response, please contact the
undersigned.
VAN truIV VOUrs,
& OTTENHOFF LLP
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pc: Centex Homes (via fax 303-792-9811)
Jack Vahrenwald (via fax 970A82-5175
Jayone Allen
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This will be further to our telephone conference of April 2, 2003, generally dealing with
the subject matter of your letter of that some date faxed to me.
Let me elear a few things up. I believe the City of Fort Collins storm water people ere
doing just fine? 1 am not at all frustrated with the master storm water plan or how it is coming
along. Certainly we have concerns and there are parts of it we think are great and parts of that
concem us. It is still in the planning stages and we are working together on these various issues
from time to time, In a perfect world, it would be great to have the masts plan finalized and
My implemented on to ground before a shovel of dirt was uunCICL Haweva, dds is not reality,
So what we are Ming to do is involve the ditch compeny in some compromises that will allow a
reasonable and modest amotmt of development in the drainage area that a$ccu our ditch whi)e
all this comes together. Thus, we are willing To take a small quantity of water into the ditch from
a certain amount of development as hopeAmy more development and the availability of the
storm water runaA'system converge.
We enjoy a good worldag relationship with the storm water people in OM city
government and vre've worked hard to share a vision. I particularly commend Bob, Glen and
Basil in this regard, not to exclude others. The City'3 Task 13 doing good land ase planurng and
devclopr ual would be a whole lot easier if our ditches didn't c)CM On the other hand, land use
and development bring little if anything to the irrigation companies, so we would like not to have
to deal with it either. So, consequently we are working together with a high degree of sensitivity
to each other's needs -
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Of concern is the number of crossings for vehicle and/or pedestrian traffic and the
interconnect to future neighborhoods. This portion of the ditch is owned by WRCC. We are
concerned with the number of crossings unreasonably interfering with and impairing our ability
to travel and inspect this ditch on a regular basis as well as to operate equipment along the ditch
to maintain it. It is very difficult to operate a backhoe under a bridge! Any approaches, curbs and
railings dealing with. the approaches to any bridge crossing need to be designed such that they do
not interfere with the ability to operate vehicles and equipment along the edge of the ditch. Thus,
we would like to be prospectively informed of the proposed design criteria for these structures
and their immediate surrounding area.
Yours very truly,
MAYO SOMME E R,
Mayo Somme yer N
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PC: Donn Engel, WRCC
Kenneth Lind
Yvonne Seaman, Centex Homes
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The basic thesis of my rccent round of correspondeaee was that those thbW really need
to be looked at globally. My client can have no "legal" objection to your Phase I retention ,pond,
as it doesn't affbd our ditch at all. However, looking at this subdivision that you propose as a
whole and where we think it probably needs to go in terms of dealing with storm, water, the
?base I is of concern as what's done these may relate to the overall effect of the other pbases and
ultimately the completed project on the ditch. I had no intention one way or another as to the
reaction of the City as that's their business and discharge of their governmcntal responsibility.
and frankly we've kind of gotten everybody's attention right now so we are looking at this in a
bigger way.
Our ditch can and will (with appropriate agreements and compensation) take a portion of
your storm water. We will take what we can handle. My objective is to assist in the most
sensible planning ponible, which I believe involves taking a modest amount of water, believing
that this is something that we can live with until the overall master plan is developed and
implemented. At that time I would expect that a larger quantity of water can be handled by the
new and better system, However, I don't really know that so I have to agree to that which we
can live with forever if that's what we arc left with. I believe that the City of Fort Collins does
want to proceed with sensible planning in the area and we would like to be a team member is
that regard, so we will take some of the storm water into our existing facility to the extent that
our existing facility can physically handle it One of the reasons that we are asking that a
particular development only contribute a fairly modest amount of water to the ditch is tbat
there's only so much capacity and I see a need to spread that capacity out over as many
developers as possibly until more capacity is available. Frankly, beyond what I! anticipam we are
willing to take from your subdivision in its entirety, I am very reluctant to agree to any additional
storm water flows.
Even though my atromey-client focus is strictly to the protection of my client's physuml
facilities and their operation for the benefit of the agricultural girareholdcm I do have an
expanded interest, :saving resided in this city for 38 years and having bad myprofessica here for
34 of them. To retain all of the storm water rmoff from the entire proposed deve$gMr t just
isn't good planning; aed I would be surprised if that would be approved. ReteD6on ponds in my
opinion are a poor solution. They can result in deep, stagnant water vAich not only poses a
danger to neighborhoods but typically araclis bad and grows nuIX Reuo ion ponds are a poor
use of lard because it's hard for them to have multiple uses. Because I ey may well have water
in them a large part of the time, it's difficult to develop them into attractive grassy areas with
walling trails and other amenities, which detention facilities may not prevent because the water
isn't going to be there too long.
What we would like to have is a commitment fiom you w to the maximum amount of
storm water runoff that you will ask to discharge info our existing ditch facility from the wbole
approximate 175 acme development I think this understanding can be very productive as it may
a$bcr haw yca design and eppmach even Phase I where you intend to retain ail the water. Our
primary concern is rate and that's the major item that your people need for siting. We certainly
bove water quality concerns, but are not tembly concerned about overall water quantity as long
as all of a sudden somebody isn't collecting storm waters from all sorts of other properties and
funneling them through their system even with a small rate of discharge!
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Would youu be willing to consider a commitment that the maximum rate of discharge
from storm water accumulations that you will ask from the entire subdivision into our Mdsring
ditch facilities wUl not exceed 10 CFS. You will, of coarse, agree to join in, connect or
participate in any upgraded or revised drainage system developed is accordance by the City's
master plan or by any govcmmental asenry itself, at such time as it is appropriate. That is of
some concern to cue but probably of more concern to the City and I'm sure that issue will be
adequately covered in their development agreement Please confer with your engineers and your
other people and give some consideration as to whether or not you can commit at this time to a
maximum rate inflow from Storm water collections from your subdivision at the rate of 10 CFS
and we will talk further.
I look forward to our meeting that we've scheduled April 24, 2003 at 2:00 pm at my
office bare in Fort Collins. If you plan on having anyone else at this meeting other than yourself,
please drop me a note and Iet me know who will be on the guest list or you can call my legal
assistant, Tens, and let her know.
Very truly yours,
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cc: Robert Smith, Storm Water Planning/Mlitics Dept., City of Fort Collins (via facsimile)
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City of Fort Collins Current Planning
281 N. College Avenue
Fort Collins, CO 80524
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Re: Project 439-94B Lind Property PDP Final Compliance — Type I (LUC)
Our Clients: Windsor Reservoir & Canal Company
Larimer & Weld Irrigation Company
Dear Mr. Barkeen:
I have reviewed your Revision Comment Sheet submission dated June 26, 2003. I
appreciate this is Filing 1 and the total storm water management for the whole project may not
yet be developed.
We have worked closely with the developer from time to time concerning storm water
management and discharge. I cannot tell from the referenced submission whether any storm
water from Filing 1 is planned to be discharged into our clients ditch. There have been some
discussions about retaining all of the developed storm water in Filing 1 and as other filings are
developed toward completion of the whole project, a storm water system would be developed
which will detain and discharge into the ditch at a modest rate.
I have previously corresponded with Storm Water concerning retention issues, which
may or may not be relevant when we're looking just at Filing I. but I thought you should be
aware of that.
The issue here is that I cannot tell from the submission whether the developer plans to
discharge any portion of the developed storm water into the ditch in conjunction with just Filing
1. If the developer is going to retain all of the water, then we have no further comment other
than what has already been mentioned. If the developer is planning on discharging any water
into the ditch at this point, it should be noted that there is no agreement in place allowing the
discharge of any developed storm water into our ditch.
Respectfully submitted,
MAY Ob1MERMEY C.
WfaySomme r
MS/jra
cc: Yvonne Seaman
Donn Engel
Susan Joy - Lind Property: Comments/Request for Meeting Page 1
From: <BL.EICHERJW@aol.com>
To: <sjoy@fcgov.com>
Date: 9/2 2/03 10:03AM
Subject: Lind Property: Comments/Request for Meeting
Dear Ms. Joy:
This is a follow-up to our discussion on Friday, September 19, 2003, where I
expressed my very strong concerns on the timing in the Lind Property
Development Plan for the ultimate road on NCR 11. In particular, you explained that
the ultimate street improvements to County Road 11 (see Page 11, Paragraph 6)
may be delayed untilFiling 4 which would not result until the issuance of about
600 building permits. I also requested a meeting on this issue with Ted
Shepard and Dave Stringer which you have now arranged for 3:00 pm this coming
Wednesday.
We believe that we need to meet with the appropriate City representatives to
ensure that we understand their latest planning on how the issuance of
building permits for the Richards Lake, Maple Hill, and Lind Property developments
will affect timing of our frontage road. I will contact our other neighborhood
representatives, Kirvin Knox and Nick Yobaggy, to verify that the proposed
meeting time on Wednesday with Dave and Matt will work for them. Also, Kirvin,
Nick, and I would definitely want Cam McNair at this meeting if at all
possible.
In our letter of January 30, 2003, we documented our meeting on January 29,
2003, with Ted Shepard, Cam McNair, Matt Baker, and Craig Farver. We noted
that the in previous agreements with our neighborhood, the relocation of NCR 11
and the frontage road were tied into the isssuance of 200 permits. At that
time you indicated that the issuance of 200 permits might still be the trigger
for these actions, but there will also be other factors affecting the timing.
We look forward to an update on your current status on these factors.
Since 1996, our neighborhood has consistently noted the need for a frontage
road for our homes on NCR 11 between Country Club Road and Richards Lake Road
which would provide limited access to the ultimate road which would be built to
the east. As development has affected us, we have repeatedly noted the
adverse effects on our neighborhood integrity, quality of life, safety, and home
values which have resulted from the greatly increased traffic on NCR 11. We
want to continue to work cooperatively with the City and other affected parties
to achieve a reasonable, fair, and equitable plan to obtain this frontage road
in a timely manner.
Please contact me on 407-0531 if I can answer any questions or provide
further assistance.
Sincerely,
Joseph W. Bleicher
For Neighbors in the Country Club Heights Subdivision
CC: <cmcnair@fcgov.com>, <tshepard@fcgov.com>, <bbarkeen@fcgov.com>
Susan Joy - Correction to Message on Meeting
Page 1
From:
<BL.EICHERJW@aol.com>
To:
<sjoy@fcgov.com>
Date:
9/22/03 10:37AM
Subject:
Correction to Message on Meeting
Dear Ms. Joy:
Per our discussion on my message of 9/22/2003 10:01:02 AM Mountain Standard
Time, my last sentence of the first paragragh should have been: " I also
requested a meeting with Dave Stringer and Matt Baker which you have now arranged
for 3:00 pm this coming Wednesday." This is consistent with the second sentence
in the second paragraph of this message.
I had wanted to cc both Ted Shepard and Bob Barkeen since they had worked
with us on the Maple Hill and Lind Property developments respectively (Ted had
also attended the January 29, 2003, meeting as noted in my third paragraph). I
apologize for inadvertently indicating in my first message that we had
requested you to arrange for Ted to attend this meeting -- this was not done and his
presence is not necessary.
Thank you for your assistance in arranging for Cam to attend this meeting.
Sincerely,
Joseph W. Bleicher
For the Country Club Heights Subdivision
CC: <cmcnair@fcgov.com>, <tshepard@fcgov.com>, <bbarkeen@fcgov.com>
Transportation Services
Engineering Department
r'r, Collins
Joseph W. Bleacher
2509 North County Road 11
Fort Collins, Co. 80524
October 21, 2003
RE: County Road 11 realignment
Dear Mr. Bleicher
For your reference I am sending this letter to clearly establish in writing the City's
position as it relates to the future realignment of County Road 11 adjacent to the
Maple Hill and Lind properties. As was discussed in our meeting on September
24, 2003 between City staff members Susan Joy, Matt Baker, Cam McNair,
myself, you and your two of your neighbors Steve Stansfield and Kervin Knox.
In this meeting the City stressed on several occasions that the CR-11 ultimate
widening and realignment would not occur until the traffic impacts warrant the
construction. The City has agreed to determine the existing traffic volumes and
monitor the amount of increase in traffic as one of the tools in the determination
of when the ultimate roadway improvement will be built. As you are aware this
construction work will be managed by the City's Street Oversizing Program witl-
funding provided by the City and the developers, including each development's
proportionate share of the pedestrian underpass which will serve the future
regional trail system being built by the City's Parks and Recreation Department.
Currently, the City has received monies from adjacent developments to construct
an interim roadway improvement scheduled for the spring of next year. This
improvement will consist of an asphalt pavement overlay to a width of 36 feet,
painted stripping for two twelve -foot vehicle travel lanes and two six-foot bicycle
pedestrian lanes.
The City has executed Development Agreements (copies enclosed) with Maple
Hill and Lind developers which indicate the number of building permits that the
City will release prior to these developments establishing escrow accounts with
the City for the County Road 11 improvements. These agreements also discuss
the construction traffic routes as the developments proceed to build out. In
addition. the City will reinforce these designated construction traffic routes as a
condition of the Development Construction Permits.
I understand that it is your desire to have the ultimate County Road 11
improvements constructed immediately. However, as stewards of the public
rights -of -way and tax payers' dollars, the City does not construct roadway
improvements prior to their need. Please be assured that the City will construct
these roadway improvements in the future, at such time as the construct is
warranted.
Sincerely,
David Stringer
Development Review Manager
Cc: Cam McNair
Susan Joy
Matt Baker
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March 1, 2004
Yvonne Seaman, Land Acquisition & Planning Director
Centex Homes
9250 E. Costilla Ave., #200
Greenwood Village, CO 80112
Re: Lind. Property / Centex Homes
Stormwater Drainage
Dear Yvonne:
N 7 CLOCK TOWER SQUARE
323 SOUTH COLLEGE AVENUE
FORT COLLINS, COLORADO 60524
2312 CAREY AVENUE
CHEYENNE, WYOMNG 92001
(307)634.1541
The purpose of this letter is to document and confirm that the project that you are in the
process of developing will be entitled to discharge certain developed stormwater runoff into the
No. 8 Outlet Canal, which is operated by our client, Windsor Reservoir & Canal Company.
Your project is generally described as the "Lind Property" and lies in a triangle bordered on the
west by County Road 11, on the south by County Road 52 and along the easterly and northern
side by the No. 8 Outlet Canal, which runs generally in a southeasterly direction from County
Road l l to County Road 52.
This will confirm that this project will be entitled to discharge developed stormwater
runoff into the No. 8 Outlet Canal at a flow rate not to exceed 10 CFS. This will require
appropriate detention within the project to limit the maximum discharge into the canal at the 10
CFS rate. The 10 CFS will be discharged into the canal through two separate structures, one
near County Road 52 and the other to the north. These two structures can divide the 10 CFS
flow as your engineering people consider appropriate.
You will be responsible for the design of the structures and any protection such as rip -rap
or structures that slow or diffuse the flow to avoid erosion or damage to the canal. The design of
these structures and associated facilities will need to be approved by our engineer and
superintendent.
You will also be responsible for any ongoing maintenance to the structures, which will
ultimately become; the responsibility of the HOA.
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ATTORNEYS AT LAW Canvon Office
Ward H. Fischer (1929 - 1996)
William H. Brown 318 Canyon Avenue, Suite 100
William C. Gunn EIGHTH FLOOR - FIRST TOWER Fort Collins, Colorado 80521
215 WEST OAK STREET Phone: 970-407-1070 Fax: 970-498-0769
Wiliam R- Fscher PO BOX Q
Margaret A. (Meg) Brown FORT COISA•IS, COLORADO 80522 Email Address
Daniel IL Brown fbg@fbM�.com
PHONE 970-407-9000 FAX 970-407-1055
Margaret A. Althoff
February 7, 2003
Troy Campbell
Sear -Brown Group
209 S. Meldrum
Fort Collins, CO 80521
Re: Ditch/pipeline located near the west section line within Section 32, T8N, R68W of
the 6a' P.M. (located east of Long Pond).
Dear Mr.Campbell:
This office represents the Poudre School District. As you know, the Poudre
School District has the right to use the existing ditch/pipeline which runs generally in a
north/south direction and is located near the west section line within Section 32,
Township 8 North, Range 68 West of the 6th P.M. The ditch/pipeline is located near the
east shoulder of County Road 11 and parallels that road. The ditch/pipeline is or may be
used to run irrigation water.
I am informed that on August 21, 2002,.representatives of Sear -Brown Group,
TST, Centex Homes, and Gillespie Farms met with representatives of the Poudre School
District and others who have a right to use the ditch/pipeline. I am further informed that
at that time you or one of your clients were considering relocating or modifying the
ditch/pipeline. Poudre School District representatives assumed that you would be c aai:
plans of the proposed modification to them for review, but to date, they have not received
any plans. What is the status of your proposed project? Please inform Mr. Peter Hall,
Director of Facilities, as to the status of the proposed project and send any draft plans to
him at 2407 Laporte Avenue, Fort Collins, Colorado, 80521, (970)-490-3425. As you are
no doubt aware, the Poudre School District has not consented to any modification or
relocation of the ditch/pipeline, and the Poudre School District will not allow the
ditch/pipeline to be relocated or modified unless consent is given by the Poudre School
District.
Thank you.
cc: Pete Hall
Sincerely
William R. Fischer
As soon as these structures are designed and approved as mentioned above, we will put
together a formal, final agreement and upon its execution, you will pay the consideration, which
has been determined by vote of our Board of Directors to be $20,000. As you know, these
drainage fees tend to increase over the years for all companies and our company is no different.
Even though the discharge fee is now set at $2,000 per CFS, this can be changed by Director
action. In order to ensure that the cost of your entitlement is not increased, you may want to pay
the $20,000 now,
I hope that this letter, which is written at the direction and with the express authority of
the Board of Directors of the Windsor Reservoir & Canal Company, is satisfactory to assist your
ongoing planning needs.
MS/jrr
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Stantec Consulting Inc.
209 South Meldrum Street
Fort Collins CO 80521-2603
Tel: (970) 482-5922 Fax: (970) 482-6368
Rantec To: Susan Joy
From:
John Gooch
Office: City Fort Collins Engineering
❑
For Your Information
Date: June 28, 2005
❑
For Your Approval
File: Lind Filing 1
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For Your Review
❑
As Requested
Reference: Lind Filing 1 Inlet Revisions:
Susan,
The revisions to the utility plans provided are for changes to Inlets 5 & 9 for Lind
Filing 1. The inlets were changed from combination inlets to Type "R" Inlets to
accommodate the special manholes. The combination inlets were protruding into
the special manhole bases, and utilizing Type "R" Inlets would allow the
clearances needed.
I have attached the memo from conversation in the field and also in speaking with
Basil Harridan and Jeff Baldwin. Basil and Jeff were fine with changing the inlets
from combination inlets to Type "R" inlets, and I have provided Basil with the
calculations he requested. I have attached the letter that I sent to Basil for your
record. If you have any questions, please give me a call.
Sincerely,
STANTEC CONSULTING INC.
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John Gooch
Project Engineer
Tel: 970-482-5922
Fax: 970-482-6368
igooch@stantec.com
Attachment:
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stantec.com Memo
$tantec To: Rodney Muller From: John Gooch
Centex Homes
File: Lind Filing 1 Date: June 27, 2005
Reference: Inlet Revisions for Lind 1
Per phone discussions between Brian (American Infrastructure Inlet Guy), Mike
Massey & John Gooch (Stantec) on Friday, June 24, 2005, it was confirmed that
the following constitutes the proposed inlet for Lind Filing 1:
Inlet 1- 15' Combination Inlet
Inlet 2- 10' Type R Inlet
Inlet 3- 15' Combination Inlet
Inlet 4- 10' Type R Inlet
Inlet 5- 20' Type R Inlet
Inlet 6- 10' Combination Inlet
Inlet 7- 10' Combination Inlet
Inlet 8- 10' Type R Inlet
Inlet 9- 20' Type R Inlet
Inlet 10- 10' Combination Inlet
Inlet 11- 10' Combination Inlet
Inlet 12- 5' Type R Inlet
John Gooch also called Basil Hamdan and confirmed that inlets 5 & 9 would no
longer be combination inlets, and would be 20' Type R inlets to accommodate the
special manholes. Basil said the inlets could be constructed as long as Jeff
Baldwin (City Fort Collins Inspector) was aware and okay with the change, and
that Stantec submit revisions for the inlet changes. Stantec will submit revisions
on June 28, 2005.
STANTEC CONSULTING INC.
John Gooch
Project Engineer
jgooch aastantec.com
CC: Jon Friesem, Elizabeth Brogan, Basil Hamdan
stantec.com Transmittal
Stantec Consulting Inc.
209 South Meldrum Street
Fort Collins CO 80521-2603
Tel: (970) 482-5922 Fax: (970) 482-6368
$tdnteC To: Basil Hamdan
From:
John Gooch
Office: Stormwater
❑
For Your Information
Date: June 28, 2005
❑
For Your Approval
File: Lind Filing 1
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For Your Review
❑
As Requested
Reference: Lind Filing 1 Inlet Revisions:
Basil,
The following calculations are for Inlets 5 & 9 for Lind Filing 1. The inlets were
changed from combination inlets to Type "R" Inlets to accommodate the special
manholes. The combination inlets were protruding into the special manhole
bases, and utilizing Type "R" Inlets would allow the clearances needed.
I reran the UDlnlet calculations for Inlets 5 & 9 and have attached the results, and
also a memo/letter from the conversations in the field, as well as with you. I have
submitted revisions of the utility plans to engineering, so you should see them
shortly. If you have any questions, please give me a call.
Sincerely,
STANTEC CONSULTING INC.
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John Gooch
Project Engineer
Tel: 970-482-5922
Fax: 970-482-6368
jgooch@stantec.com
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Mr. Peter Hall
Director of Facilities
Poudre School District
2407 Laporte Ave.
Fort Collins, CO 80521
Re: Maple Hill — Irrigation Lateral Relocations
Project No.: 0953-003
Dear Peter,
This letter is responding to a February 7. 2003 letter from Mr. William R. Fischer,
Fischer, Brown and Gunn, P.C., regarding the Baker Irrigation Lateral. TST, Inc.
represents the Gillespie Farm Development Company that is developing the Maple Hill
project located south of CR52, east of NCR 11, west of the No. 8 outlet ditch and north
of the Poudre School District/Forbes property.
TST, Inc. has been working with the City of Fort Collins In preparing and finalizing the
"Utility, Plans for Maple Hill., Currently the City of Fort Collins does not allow private
Irrigation conveyance systems within a public road fight-d-way (ROW). Due to the fad
that TST, Inc. is designing the public improvements for NCR 11 and the Baker Irrigation
Lateral is within this existing ROW, the City is requiring the relocation of said fine.
Enclosed is sheets 70A and 70B of the Maple Hill Construction plans for your review.
TST, Inc will be tying Into the relocated line at CR52, designed by Sear Brown and the
existing fine at the southem end of the proposed Maple Hill site.
If you have any questions, please feel free to give me a call.
Respectfully,
TST, Inc. Consult Engineers
� lth . Sheaffer, P.E.
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Enclosures
CC: Mr. William Fischer
Mr. Tom Dougherty
TST, INC. 749 WAa.en Way -asu ugD
Fen CowfA4 CO $0525
Consulting Engineers (970) 2264567
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William H. Brown
William C. Gunn
William R. Fischer
Margaret A. (Meg) Brown
Daniel K. Brown
Margaret A. Althoff
FISCHER, BROWN & GUNN, P.C.
ATTORNEYS AT LAW
EIGHTH FLOOR FIRST TOWER
215 WEST OAK STREET
PO BOX Q
FORT COLLINS, COLORADO 80522
PHONE 970-407-9000 FAX 970-407-1055
February 24, 2003
Dave Stringer
City of Fort Collins
Engineering Department
PO Box 580
Fort Collins. CO 80522
Re: Gillespie Farms Property
Lind Property
Dear Mr. Stringer:
FEB2=20�?
318 Canyon Avenue, Suite 100
Fort Collins, Colorado 80521
Phone: 970-407-1070 Fax: 970-498-0769
Email Address
fbgC fbgpc.com
As I mentioned to you, this office represents the Poudre School District. Pursuant
to our telephone conversation this morning, enclosed please find a copy of a letter from
me to Troy Campbell dated February 7, 2003 which states the position of the School
District pertaining to a ditch/pipeline near the west section line within Section 32.
Township 8 North, Range 68 West of the 6th P.M. Also enclosed is a copy of a letter to
Peter Hall from Keith Sheaffer dated February 18, 2003.
Sincerely,
William R. Tischer
Enc.
Cc: Peter Hall
CENTEX HOMES
9250 E. Costilla Ave., #200
Greenwood Village, CO 80112
Phone: 303-792-9810
Fax: 303-792-9811
March 13, 2003
Susan Joy
City of Fort Collins
215 North Mason Street
Fort Collins, CO 80524-4408
Dear Susan,
Centex Homes, owner of a portion, and purchaser of a portion of the property legally described
on Exhibit "A" and Maple Hills Development, Tom Dougherty and Mike Sollenberger owners of
that certain property legally described on E=xhibit "B" have entered into this letter of understanding
to provide that, in the event County Road 52 is ready for construction prior to one, or both of the
anticipated developments receiving FDP approval and Final Plat approval and recordation, upon
request, the party(ies) will grant a grading easement to the City of Fort Collins (or to the other
party if such request is proper), to allow the development of the portion of County 52 as required
by the approved development plans.
Centex Homes Maple Hill Development
Yvonne Seaman
Land Acquisition and Planning Director
M�S�EAR- B�ROWN
March 13, 2003
Susan Joy
Engineering Department
City of Fort Collins
281 N. College
Fort Collins, CO 80524
RE: Lind Property, Filing I Alternative Compliance request
Dear Susan,
209 South Meldrum
Fort Collins,0080521
970,482.5922 phone
970.482.6368 fax
www,searbrown.com
We are writing on behalf of Centex Homes, to request alternative compliance with the Larimer County Urban Area
Street Standards (LCUASS) for the spacing of streets along CR I & 52 for the Lind Property, Filing I layout.
1) 3.6.3 Street Pattern and Connectivity Standards, Subsections C and D —This alternative compliance request
specifically addresses spacing of street intersections with arterial streets, specifically connections to arterial
streets be provided at a maximum spacing of 660 feet.
This Filing I PDP proposes alternative compliance to the spacing requirements for various sections as outlined
below:
a) Spacing of street connections along County Road 11;
• Lind Property, Filing I proposes two street connections to County Road 11, Mainsail Drive and
Brightwater Drive, at a spacing of approximately 800 feet. These streets align with the existing streets
to the west of County Road 11, which predetermined the street spacing within this development. ']'his
site plan does provide an additional pedestrian connection at Clipper Way. With this connection, the
660 foot spacing is preserved for pedestrians.
b) Spacing of street connections along County Road 52;
• Lind Property, Filing I proposes two street connections to County Road 52, Forecastle Drive and Bar
Harbor Drive, at a spacing of approximately 820 feet. These streets align with proposed streets to the
south of County Road 52 in the proposed Maple Hill development. The alignment of Bar Harbor Drive
actually falls on the quarter mile spacing at 1,320 feet, however, Forecastle Drive is located 490 feet
from County Road 11, causing the greater distance between Bar harbor and Forecastle.
• To alleviate this, two additional pedestrian connections arc provided to County Road 52. One is a
pedestrian underpass between County Road I I and Forecastle Drive. The other is located between
Forecastle and Bar I (arbor at Fairwater Drive. With these pedestrian connections, the 660 foot spacing
is preserved and exceeded for pedestrians.
The proposed spacing of street connections for the Lind Property, Filing I along CR I I & 52 will not be detrimental
to public health, safety or welfare, based on safe driving speeds.
Thank you for your careful consideration of this request for alternative compliance, and please do not hesitate to
call if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
Scar-Bror
'I roy Campbell
Sear -Brown
Bret Cummock
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Susan Joy
City of Fort Collins
215 North Mason Street
Fort Collins, CO 80524-4408
Dear Susani
Centex Homes, owner of a portion and purchaser of a portion of the
property legally described on Fxhibit ■A," and Maple Hills
Dovelopment, Tom Dougherty, and Mike Sollenbergar, owners of that
certain property legally described on Exhibit "Bill have entered
into this letter of underotanding to provide that, in the event
County Road 52 is ready for construction prior to one, or both of
the anticipated developments receiving rDp approval and Final plat
approval and recordation, upon request, the party(ies) will grant
a grading easement to the City of Port Collins (or to the other
Party if such request is proper), to allow the development of the
portion of County Road 52 as required by the approved development
Plans.
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Robert Smith
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City of Port Collins
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Re: Our client: Windsor Reservoir and Canal Company (WRCC)
Project #39-94B
Lind Property PAP -Type 2 (LUC)
Dear Bob:
2312 CARFY AVENUE
CHEYENNE. W YOMING 82D01
(307) 634-1541
The enclosed correspondence to the developer of the Lind Property is self explanatory. I
believe the reality of the problem that I am pointing out is very obvious. These developers need
to develop their whole site as it applies to at least the impact on our ditches and facilities on a
global basis. This doing it piecemeal only puts off the necessity of their dealing with a difficult
situation until later. I appreciate that the developer's objective is to maximize profit and walk
away with as much money as they can after they've scorched the Earth and left a roofed city.
Very few really have any genuine interest or care in the welfare and ongoing operational realities
of the Irrigation Companies. There are some notable exceptions like Stan Everett, Tom
Daugherty and Mike Solcnberg and probably some others who I apologize for neglecting.
What so often happens with these segmented developments is that we get hit with the
"creep up" effect. They've got a large portion of their subdivision done, huge investments in the
project and now they're down to having to deal with the Ditch to now unload on us that which
they've been able to hold and avoid dealing with. Then we have a problem that is not acceptable
and we are really the bad guys because we are holding up this wonderful development and are
always classified as "totally unreasonable."
Your department understands all of this and remains a pleasure to deal with. We never
hear anything from the Planning Department. I sometimes think they wish we just didn't exist.
It's really nice tD have some friends in the City who are sensitive to the Ditch Companies and
make a genuine effort to work with us so we are not unnecessarily burdened or harmed. These
ditches have been quietly flowing water through our countryside to irrigate farms for food for