HomeMy WebLinkAboutMemo - Read Before Packet - 1/14/2020 - Memorandum From Delynn Coldiron Re: Items Relating To Montava Planned Unit Development Master Plan And Overlay (Comments Through Noon)From: Kathleen Collins
To: City Leaders
Cc: dschwaab@gmail.com
Subject: Montava PUD Proposal comments
Date: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 9:54:08 PM
Kathleen Collins,
David Schwaab
1411 Hillside Dr.
Fort Collins, CO 80524
To Fort Collins City Council Members;
We are writing to give you our considered comments on the Montava Planned Unit
Development (PUD) proposal that lays before you. We have lived along the Front Range for
over 50 years, over 36 of them in Fort Collins, and we are not opposed to development. We
live about a mile from the proposed development, in the old Country Club Estates
neighborhood.
We attended the last Planning and Zoning Board meeting considering Montava where they
approved the PUD proposal, our having learned of the Montava development plans only a few
days prior. We left this meeting with the impression that all the important issues and adjoining
neighborhoods impacts of the proposal had been addressed by the city staff and that the
necessary infrastructure considerations were all in order for this large development. Upon
subsequent scrutiny and research, We were alarmed to discover that our impression was
completely unfounded. Many issues critical to any future Montava residents and to the
thousands of residents already living in the surrounding neighborhoods
[1]
are addressed only
in misleading descriptions, e.g., “planned”, rather than as an integral part of the proposal with
concrete, funding-determined deliverables with dates. As currently proposed, the PUD
developer is given many valuable commitments and guarantees by the city, while the affected
residents are given no commitments to address current, large infrastructure issues that the
PUD would dramatically exacerbate.
Perhaps the largest of these issues is the city traffic impact study (TIS) which does not
consider or address the impact of the PUD on the surrounding, rural, two-lane Larimer county
roads that are necessary to connect the PUD to north Fort Collins (shopping, services), and the
rest of downtown. These are Country Club Rd., which leads directly into Montava from N.
College Ave. and CO 1, N. Lemay Ave. connecting Country Club Rd. to the south and traffic
access to Tavelli Elementary School, and Richards Lake Rd. and Gregory Rd. also connecting
with CO 1 to N. College Ave. The only other route connecting Montava to the south is
Turnberry Rd. to Mountain Vista, then east to the two-lane N. Timberline Rd. which runs
south from Mountain Vista and intersecting with E. Vine at the RR tracks. All of the
surrounding neighborhoods depend solely upon exits onto these busy county and city two-lane
roads, which are also severely restricted at the two intersections of N. Lemay and E. Vine and
N. Timberline and E. Vine by the railroad tracks and rail yard sidings running parallel to E.
Vine between Lemay and Timberline, and at the two intersections of Country Club Rd. at the
Country Club entrance and at Turnberry Rd., which are less than 50 yards apart. The current
road infrastructure simply cannot support the additional traffic forecasted from Montava in its
first phase and beyond.
Unfortunately, the proposed solution to this forecasted traffic congestion (an additional 42,468
vehicle trips/day, already adjusted with trip-reductions for the intended, somehow to-be-built,
“multimodal network”) is to extend Turnberry and N. Giddings roads from Mountain Vista
Dr. to an extended Conifer St. and to an extended Suniga Road. The problem with this is that
it is only an imagined solution, because all of the property rights needed to extend and join
Conifer, Suniga, Turnberry, and Giddings do not belong to the city or county, their acquisition
is not funded, nor are the roads themselves funded. This could take many years to accomplish,
if ever, and what are all of the neighborhoods’ residents expected to do in the interim? The
TIS is based on all of the intended traffic mitigation measures being in place by 2040. There
are no commitments for when, how ($), or even if, the intended traffic mitigation issues will
ever be in place. Given the tremendous growth our community has experienced, perhaps
especially over the past 15 years, we are now seeing new, important issues arise with some of
our infrastructure that require new approaches and solutions if we are to maintain a reasonably
good quality of living. The old ways of doing things don't do the best job anymore.
The questions arising from the TIS analysis for the PUD proposal that must be answered are:
1) Why did the TIS not analyze traffic impacts on all of the roads and intersections affected by
the PUD, including the directly impacted residential county roads which lead directly to
Montava? Could it be that the impacted county roads serving current neighborhoods were
conveniently excluded from consideration because of the great road infrastructure problem
such analysis could create for the current PUD as proposed, even rendering it materially
deficient?
2) Why was the Fort Collins/Larimer County Intergovernmental agreement (IGA), which
requires the city to make improvements to roads in the county impacted by city development,
not engaged and adhered to in the current Montava PUD proposal for its intended benefit of all
affected citizens? Could it be because the city of Fort Collins did not want to recognize the
many difficult and troublesome issues with the county roads that will be caused for current
neighborhoods by the Montava proposal in its current form?
3) How can the IGA be implemented without including Country Club Rd., N. Lemay Ave.,
Gregory Rd., and Richards Lake Rd. (between Turnberry and CO 1) in the TIS?
4) How will the crossings of the Great Western Railroad at Lemay and at Timberline,
immediately south of Vine, and the increased traffic congestion and subsequent safety
issues
[2]
that will be introduced according to the TIS, be addressed?
5) Why is the city providing Montava with water and sewer service at a deep discount within
the Elco Water District and the Boxelder Sanitation District? This provision saves the
developer approximately $30.8M. (On Dec. 28, 2019 the Loveland Utility Commission
increased the cash-in-lieu fee to the City of Loveland for CBT water rights to the current
market rate of $47,640 per acre foot). Should not this large windfall to the Montava developer
instead be directed to the road infrastructure improvements required for new and existing
residents affected because of the Montava development, rather than to the developer?
The current Montava PUD proposal is materially deficient. The TIS must be amended to 1)
include the directly impacted adjacent county roads of Country Club Rd., N. Lemay and
Gregory Rd., and Richards Lake Rd., and 2) include all street and intersection mitigation
measures identified as needed for those county roads. Any mitigation measures identified as
needed for these county roads must also be in place to serve Montava and the surrounding
neighborhoods prior to the issuance of any Montava building permits. The street and
intersection mitigation measures to Turnberry Rd. and Suniga Rd., identified in the TIS, must
also be in place to adequately serve Montava and the surrounding neighborhoods prior to the
issuance of any Montava building permits. Approving the Montava proposal with anything
less will violate the trust and confidence of many citizens of Fort Collins and adjacent Larimer
County neighborhoods.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Kathleen Collins,
David Schwaab
[1]
These include Mosaic, Collins Aire Park, Dry Creek, Bullrun, Vine neighborhoods east of Timberline including
Waterglen, Storybook, Adriel Hills, Maple Hill, Richards Lake, Brightwater Crossing, the Country Club, Nedra Acres,
County Club Estates, Crestview, Dellwood Heights, Falcon Ridge, Pheasant Ridge, Lindenlake, Greenbrier, Evergreen,
Redwood Meadows, and Alta Vista. These neighborhoods depend upon exits from their neighborhoods onto two-
lane county and city roads, including Country Club Rd., N. Lemay, Gregory Rd., Richards Lake Rd., Turnberry Rd.,
Mountain Vista Dr., N. Timberline, N. Geddings Rd., and E. Vine, none of which are designed to remotely handle the
added city-forecasted vehicle trips Montava would generate.
[2]
Because of space constraints, there are no left-hand turn lanes at the intersection of Lemay and Vine (at the
railroad tracks). Subsequently, given traffic congestion, which is usually blocks long, vehicles traveling through in
both north and south, and east and west, directions must constantly go around left-turning vehicles (on their right-
hand sides). This is an exceptionally busy and dangerous two-lane road intersection. A left-turn signal was tried
years ago but was removed because it exacerbated the traffic congestion.
From: Tauny Gilmore
To: Delynn Coldiron
Subject: FW: Montava Proposal: Hello neighbor, this is one of those show-up or shut-up opportunities!
Date: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:49:27 PM
Tauny Gilmore
Administrative Assistant in the City Manager’s Office
970-416-4312
tagilmore@fcgov.com
From: Martha Coleman <mmbc2020@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 2:36 PM
To: Gregory George <gregcgeorge8@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Montava Proposal: Hello neighbor, this is one of those show-up or shut-up
opportunities!
Hi all -
In speaking with Councilmember Kristin Stephens about this process, I received similar information
as David. Kristin highly recommended that we submit written comments/letters because even 3
minutes goes very fast, and a written statement essentially gives the council more exposure time to
the topics and potentially more information.
Thanks,
Martha Coleman
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 2:11 PM Gregory George <gregcgeorge8@gmail.com> wrote:
David - This is excellent. Thanks for the very good and thoughtful Talking Points. They should help
others formulate their comments on issue(s) they are most passionate about.
Thanks again.
Greg George
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 12:31 PM David Beede <cowtrout@gmail.com> wrote:
please excuse multiple emails
Hello neighbors, this is one of those show-up or shut-up meeting opportunities!
What: Fort Collins City Council meeting ---- public hearing about the proposed
Montava Planned Unit Development (PUD) Master Plan
When: Tuesday, January 14, 6:00 PM
Venue: City Hall West, 300 LaPorte Ave., Fort Collins
All of us are invited and encouraged to attend and provide oral input regarding the
proposed Montava PUD.
Upon arrival at the meeting each person wanting to speak (3 minutes per person)
should sign-in with their name and residential address with the City’s representative at
the front of the Hall. Be 15 to 30 minutes early to sign-in and reserve your speaking
time slot.
Written comments and letters to Fort Collins City Council members and Larimer
County Commissioners can precede your Jan 14 oral comments and be delivered via
email and(or) USPS (contact & address information in the attached file). Mailing by Jan
12 is best to ensure on-time delivery before a possible vote Jan 14 right after the public
hearing.
Attached are TALKING POINTS offered mainly as background. You should express
in your own words with questions and share your own experiences and concerns ---
your location, your life, and your family relative to the proposed Montava PUD.
Dave Beede
1701 Rangeview Dr.
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From: Tauny Gilmore
To: Delynn Coldiron
Subject: FW: Lapse of opportunity to preserve argument/evidence: Montava PUD
Date: Friday, January 10, 2020 11:02:38 AM
Tauny Gilmore
Administrative Assistant in the City Manager’s Office
970-416-4312
tagilmore@fcgov.com
From: Eric Sutherland <sutherix@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 10:21 AM
To: Carrie Daggett <CDAGGETT@fcgov.com>; City Leaders <CityLeaders@fcgov.com>; Clay Frickey
<cfrickey@fcgov.com>; Brad Yatabe <byatabe@fcgov.com>; Delynn Coldiron
<DECOLDIRON@fcgov.com>
Subject: Lapse of opportunity to preserve argument/evidence: Montava PUD
Ms. Dagget and city officials,
Please provide the public with the city's position on the time that it believes citizens
opportunity to preserve argument and evidence in the record regarding the Montava
PUD approval lapses.
This question essentially asks whether or not opponents or proponents of the PUD
application must preserve argument and evidence by no later than the close of the
public hearing on first reading, or whether argument and evidence that is received by
the decision makers no later than commencement of second reading of the
Ordinance will, from the city's perspective, be deemed to have been timely filed for
purposes of certiorari review.
Because the City itself will compile and transmit the record in the event of an appeal, I
believe it would be good for the public interest to have this specific question answered
as soon as possible. I request that this question be answered by the end of today,
Friday, Jan. 10th, 2020.
Eric Sutherland
From: Eric Sutherland
To: Delynn Coldiron; Carrie Daggett
Subject: Request for Inspection of Public Records: Montava quasi-judicial
Date: Thursday, January 9, 2020 4:53:41 PM
Please provide for public inspection all records responding to the following cirteria:
PART One
All records that evidence a local law requiring Council to make a determination by
applying facts to a specific case to certain criteria established by law in the quasi-
judicial matter regarding Montava that has been continued to January 14th, 2020.
PART Two
All records that evidence criteria established by law that are applicable to the
determination of the matter regarding Montava that has been continued to January
14th, 2020.
Reference: Snyder v. Lakewood
In order to support a finding that the action of a municipal legislative body is quasi-judicial, all of
the following factors must exist: (1) a state or local law requiring that the body give adequate
notice to the community before acting; (2) a state or local law requiring that the body conduct a
public hearing, pursuant to notice, at which time concerned citizens must be given an opportunity
to be heard and present evidence; and (3) a state or local law requiring the body to make a
determination by applying the facts of a specific case to certain criteria established by law.
Thank you,
Eric Sutherland
From: Timothy Frank
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava Water Request - comment for 1/14 meeting
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:03:56 PM
I urge you to deny Montava's request for cheaper water from Fort Collins to supply a new
development.
When there are new developments, they should be placed where the infrastructures and
resources are available and affordable.
Fort Collins citizens should not pay developers for irresponsible developments.
If this new community is not sustainable without being subsidized by our city and its citizens,
it should not exist.
Thank you for voting 'no' to this request.
Timothy Frank
Fort Collins
From: Larry Weatherly
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:01:02 PM
I ask each of the members, where do you live? Do you live in North Fort Collins?
How many time have you experience substantial delays at the Lemay and
Timberline railroad crossings in the last month, week, or today, or yesterday?
When do you think a tragedy is going to occur due to an emergency personnel
delay?
Why would you even consider approval of this impressive sounding development
until you can insure the safety of your existing constituency and neighbors with
proper infrastructure?
There have been reports and stories in the media about what a great place Fort
Collins is to live, and we all know it is. There have been many recent media stories
about future planning from 1993 or 20 year plans from the past…. Stories praising
retired personnel from the planning and other departments for 30 years of service
etc….. (Of course we always publicly say nice things about people when they are
gone). I think some of these people should take a long look in the mirror and ask
themselves, did I always make the best decisions for the people that mattered? Did
I make decisions that were influenced or lead to poor choices for the people I was
supposedly representing? Did I make short sided decisions for the current glitz or
headlines?
Yes Fort Collins has been hailed for many great things it has become. But it isn’t
discussed in the media on how you balance facts like we have the most miles of
hiking and biking trails of almost any city in the country, and we have not passed
the federal clean air standards for decades. Let’s not compound it and avoid future
media reports and pictures of our fellow bikers and joggers out on the trails with
masks on so we they can enjoy the environment we live in.
The air and water is not in infinite human acceptable states unless we treat them as
such and live wisely. You are in a position to make decisions that affect us today and
our children and grandchildren in the future.
Yes, this development could be a great addition to Northern Colorado, but please
do it intelligently and do it right. Make sure the proper infrastructure is in place
FIRST for the current and future residences that it affects the most!
I ask the same question to the author of today’s Coloradoan opinion page author
Max Moss; where do you live?
As one of this country’s most honorable statesmen said “Let us put our minds
together and see what future we can make for our children”
Thank you for your time and consideration. I pray you make wise decisions.
Larry Weatherly
Adriel Hills
From: jperkins1019@gmail.com
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava proposal
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 12:31:48 PM
Dear Sir/Madam,
I recently learned of the Montava proposal which includes subsidized water for this proposed
sprawling development.
I trust you will vote against this proposal and represent the current citizens of Ft. Collins.
I understand this proposal to include the construction of approximately 4,000 houses. How
possibly can the current infrastructure support such a development? Has anyone considered
the impact to the community and environment from such a development?
The issue at hand surrounding whether or not this developer can “afford” the water is not the
citizens problem. Why would one developer be subsidized but another not? We certainly
cannot subsidize everyone. I fail to see how anyone can think this is a burden to be placed on
the citizens of Ft. Collins. To me there are two choices for this developer; pay for the water
like everyone else or go elsewhere.
In addition, this proposal brings other inherent issues such as diversion and destruction of the
Poudre River in order to supply this massive development, to name but a few.
I trust you will represent your existing citizens and vote against this proposed development
and any proposals regarding subsidized water.
Sincerely,
Jody Perkins
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From: Greg Speer
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 12:30:40 PM
Council,
I am writing to express my concern and opposition to the City providing water for the
Montava development. In my view, if the developer can’t afford the water that is available
then the developer cannot afford to do the project. Water is going to increasingly and rapidly
become the rate limiting factor for growth in Colorado and this is a prime example of that
reality. There will come a time in the not too distant future when there simply will be no more
water available for growth. In the meantime I am adamantly opposed to the City in effect
subsidizing the Montava development and agree with others that to provide water beyond
our designated service area would set a bad precedent.
I ask that you please vote against the developer’s request for our water. Thank you.
Greg Speer
1831 Laporte Ave.
Fort Collins 80521
970-631-8230
From: Randy Perkins
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava proposal
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 10:25:20 AM
Dear Sir/Madam,
I recently learned of the Montava proposal which includes subsidized water for this proposed
sprawling development.
I trust you will vote against this proposal and represent the current citizens of Ft. Collins.
I understand this proposal to include the construction of approximately 4,000 houses. How
possibly can the current infrastructure support such a development? Has anyone considered
the impact to the community and environment from such a development?
The issue at hand surrounding whether or not this developer can “afford” the water is not the
citizens problem. Why would one developer be subsidized but another not? We certainly
cannot subsidize everyone. I fail to see how anyone can think this is a burden to be placed on
the citizens of Ft. Collins. To me there are two choices for this developer; pay for the water
like everyone else or go elsewhere.
In addition, this proposal brings other inherent issues such as diversion and destruction of the
Poudre River in order to supply this massive development, to name but a few.
I trust you will represent your existing citizens and vote against this proposed development
and any proposals regarding subsidized water.
Regards,
Randy Perkins
From: Karen Rae
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 10:04:05 AM
I oppose to the proposed Montava development for the following reasons:
train tracks already cause problems and adding 4,000 homes will compound this issue
Traffic on Timberline is maxed out! There are no traffic signals at Lincoln and International
where many accidents happen
The developer has no water for the project. Getting water from Fort Collins is a bad idea for
many reasons.
Please do not approve this project.
Karen Goggin
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From: Jason Curtis
To: City Leaders
Subject: Please vote "No" on subsidizing Montava project water request
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 10:04:00 AM
As a registered voter in Larimer County, and the city of Fort Collins, I’m urging you to vote “NO” on
the proposed water subsidy to the Montava project.
Thank you,
Jason
Jason Curtis
Industrial Piping Specialists, Inc.
4032 Medford Drive
Loveland, CO 80538
970-541-6125 Direct
jcurtis@ipipes.com
From: Al Nelson
To: City Leaders
Subject: No to Montava Water
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:53:24 AM
Nothing more to say. They need to find their own water. Ft Collins needs to protect our water including prices,
availability, etc. NO WATER FOR MONTAVA!!
From: Shawn Streeter
To: Susan Gutowsky; City Leaders
Subject: Montava concerns
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:34:30 AM
Councilmember Gutowsky,
I am a long-time resident of Fort Collins and have lived in District 1 for the past 12 years. I
am writing to share my opposition to the Montava project.
I will keep my comments brief. While I think the Montava development has many intriguing
ideas and unique design elements, I am primarily concerned with meeting the infrastructure
needs for this large scale, leapfrog project. Specifically I am most concerned with the traffic
flow to and from this new neighborhood on the existing rural roadways. Traffic on the north
side of Fort Collins has been long neglected, with added subdivisions, significant increases in
traffic counts, virtually no road improvements, and disappointingly, no action on the increased
train delays on Vine at both Lemay and Timberline. City engineer Martina Wilkinson was
quoted in the Coloradoan saying that it was too early in the process to know all the "ins and
outs" of traffic with Montava, but she did recognize "There will be substantial additional
traffic." This is concerning to me and should be to you as well. Traffic congestion, more
frequent and longer train delays, and a lack of an arterial thoroughfare connecting residents to
the heart of Fort Collins are all issues already plaguing this area. Adding Montava to this mix
will further exacerbate an existing public safety issue and negatively impact the quality of life
for existing residents.
I understand the city prefers to add traffic infrastructure after areas have met certain
thresholds, however I strongly believe this project in particular needs to have traffic
improvements completed prior to the start of any construction. Specifically, Timberline,
Turnberry and Mountain Vista roads need to be widened and Suniga needs to be completed
east of Lemay before this development proceeds.
If you add in the additional concerns raised by both ELCO and Boxelder with regards to water
and sewer service, it feels like the City of Fort Collins is ignoring data and at risk of setting
some dangerous precedence here. I would suggest the prudent response would be to put this
project on hold until thoughtful consideration and answers can be given to all of the
infrastructure components of this massive project.
Thank you for representing my concerns to the council. Please contact me if you have any
questions.
Sincerely - Shawn Streeter
From: Larry Bader
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava Development
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:01:53 AM
Dear City Leaders,
I stand by Gary Wockner’s opinion in the Coloradoan that Fort Collins shouldn't give the Montava
developer our water.
If Montava presents a take it or leave it attitude I think you should leave it and prevent
this proposed albatross altogether.
Thank you,
Larry Bader
3627 Silvertip Pl
Fort Collins
From: Elizabeth Nance
To: City Leaders
Subject: PLEASE support Montava!
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 8:54:36 AM
Dear City Council members and City Manager,
My name is Elizabeth Nance. My home address is 845 Juniper Lane, Fort Collins, Co
80526. I attended CSU from 1975-1980.
Since I am out of town I am writing instead of attending the meeting tomorrow night.
Believe me, if I could be there I WOULD BE to show my enthusiastic support for the
exciting Montava project!
My husband and I have been downtown Fort Collins property owners since 1983 -
20+ years on Sherwood Street and now 11+ years in the Sheely neighborhood.
Truthfully, Montava is the first new development we have ever considered in Fort
Collins. We have known (and been very excited) about the Montava development for
several years.
Why? Because Max Moss has a vision for Montava that makes sense and will work
for us AND be a much needed future forward direction for the city of Fort Collins. That
has not been the case with any other development in this area EVER! We want to
live, not just sleep, in a vibrant community that offers all that a neighborhood should:
access to food (especially Native Hill Farm), entertainment, work and play options all
with a diverse age, economic and “thought” demographic of residents.
We want to be in a well planned new development that has thought about, and
planned for, not being completely reliant on cars to buy a loaf of bread or a carton of
milk. We want to live in a community where walking, riding bikes and public
transportation has been planned before construction instead of the status quo of
inadequately trying to retrofit bike lanes and walking paths after the fact. We want to
live in a neighborhood where there are safe and easily accessible gathering places.
I am very aware of the concerns of current residents close to the Montava site. I
understand traffic is a big issue. Traffic has been a terrible problem for years in that
area and will continue to be with or without Montava unless real solutions are actually
done instead of just being talked about. I believe the Montava plan will actually help,
not exacerbate, the traffic issues.
I also know that many of the residents in Northeast Fort Collins have been there for
many years and like the rural nature of the area. Well, this is a “not if, but what?”
situation in my opinion. Shouldn’t we, as folks who want to see Fort Collins grow
smartly, encourage thoughtful and future forward planning instead of just more of the
same?
I am so frightened by entitled and privileged people holding on to their “way of life”.
The “We’ve got ours and we want to be the last ones in!” attitude is what happened to
Boulder years ago. Now it is impossible for teachers, service workers and regular
folks to live there. We are getting very close to becoming another Boulder if smart
decisions are not made soon in Fort Collins.
My husband and I dealt with that same resistant attitude in our neighborhood with
most of the longterm residents fighting the new CSU stadium. NEWS FLASH folks…
you moved 2 blocks from a major university and you don’t want growth??? Maybe
move to the mountains?
We love Fort Collins and are committed to making it a wonderful place to live going
forward. We have raised our children here, sent them to the excellent public schools
here, bought properties here, attend church here and want to see our grandchildren
thrive here. We have never experienced a developer with the longterm vision and
level of honesty as Max Moss. He’s the real deal and has the best interests of Fort
Collins at heart.
Thank you for reading this!
Elizabeth L. Nance
970.420.3652
From: Rick Yabroff
To: City Leaders
Subject: Water for Montava
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 8:44:25 AM
I am against providing Fort Collins water to a development outside of the Fort Collins Water
Utility service area. This is a bad precedent for other future development projects and does not
provide enough benefit to the citizens of Fort Collins to justify it. Water is only getting
more scarce and developments that can't afford water should not be built. There are some
limits to growth and this is one. We participated in the City Visioning process and subsidizing
uneconomical development projects was never identified as a priority or value.
Rick and Loretta Yabroff
5132 Star Dust Ln.
Fort Collins, CO 80528
From: Colleen Mesec
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montana
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 8:08:32 AM
Short & to the point. “NO to Montana.”
Enough is enough with these out of state developers!
Sent from my iPhone
From: Holly Allen-Young
To: City Leaders
Subject: No Water Subsidies to Montava
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 6:00:51 AM
Dear City Council Members,
I am urging you to not grant Montava's request to subsidize water to their proposed
development. We cannot afford rate increases to ratepayers to line the pockets of big
developers.
Please vote no on January 14th.
Thank you,
Holly Allen-Young
From: Emmanuel Didier
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 10:51:13 PM
Fort Collins is about place - and progress. Not cheap mass-development like Montava. Let’s
push back to these plans and let’s be ambitious. Let’s favor smart sustainable growth: a new
place that further enhances our community: not a big mistake like Montava that burdens our
unique place.
Emmanuel Didier
Landscape Architect
Fort Collins
From: Michelle Goforth
To: City Leaders
Subject: I say no!
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 9:57:46 PM
As a citizen of north west for Collins, I say no to this development.
Sent from my iPad.
From: Susan Yadon
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava water
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 8:48:47 PM
I am writing in response to the proposed new development of nearly 4,000
houses — the “Montava” project — in northeast Fort Collins near the
Budweiser facility and their lack of affordable water. I do not feel it is in the
best interest of Fort Collins and the Poudre River, to subsidize sprawling
new growth and Texas developers. I agree with the Coloradoan; growth
needs to pay its own way, not be subsidized and fueled by current city
ratepayers. My water rates — or any rates, taxes, and fees — shoul not be
increased because of growth.
I urge you to vote AGAINST Montava's application.
Sincerely,
Susan Yadon
2701 Dixon Creek Ln, Fort Collins, CO 80526
970-217-7552
From: Tobey Y
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava subsidy
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 8:34:43 PM
I read the Coloradoan article and I agree that the taxpayers of Fort Collins should not
subsidize the the Montava development.
I hope you agree and vote against their request.
Sincerely
Tobey Yadon
2701 Dixon Creek Ln, Fort Collins, CO 80526
(970)226-1482
From: Mark Near
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 7:45:55 PM
I encourage the city leadership to not approve any plans for Montava at this time. The are
currently does not have the infrastructure to handle the traffic that a development this large
will create. It is time for Fort Collins to stop approving more and more building without first
having the necessary infrastructure in place to deal with it. Each year traffic in Fort Collins
becomes more and more of a nightmare and city council continues to approve growth with no
improvements in infrastructure.
Fort Collins should not bring Montava into it's water district. Fort Collins should not be
poaching customers from other water districts. If water is too expensive for the developer then
the project should not be built. Fort Collins citizens should not be expected to subsidize
developers and builders.
City council should not be swayed by builder promises of working farms, open spaces, etc.
Residents of Bucking Horse were promised a working farm that turned into a daycare when
the builder decided a farm would hurt his bottom line.
It is time that city government represent the current residents of Fort Colloins and not builders
and developers.
Thank you,
Mark W Near
From: jan findlater
To: City Leaders
Subject: Re: Montava development
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 6:49:20 PM
As a long time (29 years) Fort Collins resident, and 45 years total in the state of Colorado, I am writing to express
my dismay at the prospect of Fort Collins water being given to the Montava development.
As the most recent years have showed us, the pro-development leaning (heavily outside money funded members) of
the City Counsel and Mayor have gone to great lengths to approve development at any cost. We have a real water
shortage on our hands, and the rates for water are becoming untenable for the average home owner. I own a small
lot, and my fees have almost tripled over the last 5 years, even with our conservation efforts. We don’t need our
rates to rise because of this behemoth that has been proposed. Developers never pay for their own developments,
they are always asking for more from local communities.
It is a horrible shame to see the mess that the development of the Hughes Stadium is creating. Lennar homes
NEVER builds affordable housing, and CSU is waiting to cash in on each lot. I remember when Pat Stryker recently
put in $25 million dollars to upgrade Hughes. Maybe she should be given the option to own the site.
Montava is not needed, will not provide affordable housing, will deplete already stressed water supplies and
increased fees for current residents, and the traffic and pollution will certainly not be worth it; much less the higher
risk of fires. Fort Collins doesn’t need to grow by 12,000 people in one development.
I have to wonder if pro-growth counsel members are lining their pockets with this deal. I see no benefit for the
locals. Elko water will either say yes or no. It is not Fort Collins business to get involved. Remember that we are
already dealing with bad decisions to allow Thornton to divert much of our water.
The Poudre River is our crown jewel, please do not let politics and dirty money destroy this lovely water source for
the community and the animals that need the water to survive. They are already stressed.
Thank you for listening (or maybe you won’t, which would not be a huge surprise).
Jan Findlater
From: Ann Fairchild
To: City Leaders
Subject: City of Fort Collins water
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 4:50:33 PM
Leaders, Water is gold in Colorado. We must protect our resources and not approve the request of the Montava
developers. Water is not cheap. If they wish to develop and need water they must pay for it. Fort Collins owes them
nothing -rather they must earn the privilege of intruding on our community.
I moved here from Austin Tx and we have much to learn from the explosive growth that has forever changed the
culture there. It is irretrievable.
Thank you,
Ann Fairchild
Sent from my iPhone
From: Bob Shelley
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava development
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 2:46:49 PM
Please do not approve extending Fort Collins existing water supplies to subsidize the proposed massive
new development at Montava.
Development must be on a "pay as you go" basis and the current taxpayers/ratepayers must not be
asked to subsidize new development. When a development wants the system extended to service their
area, they must pay the entire cost for both the system and the water to be used by the new
development. Otherwise, the development is not cost-effective for the City and its taxpayers/ratepayers. I
used to live in Las Vegas where water supplies are much more limited and that was how development
was charged.
Please do not let pro-development real estate interests hoping to make a profit from selling homes and
land in the new development area influence the City's decisions inappropriately. Resist. The rest of us will
remember your choices at election time.
Thank you for reading my input to your decision,
Robert Shelley
1303 Stanton Creek Drive
Fort Collins, CO 80525
From: Scott gordon
To: City Leaders
Subject: cityleaders@fcgov.com
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 1:11:04 PM
Please do not allow Montava to steal our
water, this will be a predictable nightmare
and as Gary stated below it sets a dangerous
precedent. Instead of wasting tax payers
money on this cluster, invest in upgrading the
soon to be bankrupt mall
Thank you a 25 year resident
Opinion: Fort Collins shouldn't give Montava
developer our water
Gary Wockner Published 8:00 a.m. MT Jan. 11, 2020
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Gary Wockner
Gary Wockner (Photo: Courtesy photo)
From where I stand, the massive proposed new development of nearly 4,000 houses (and
about 12,000 people) — the “Montava” project — in northeast Fort Collins near the
Budweiser facility has hit a snag: water.
The Montava developer — a corporation based in Texas — has publicly stated that they don’t
have access to “affordable water” and they can’t afford to buy it from the water district that
supplies water to that area, the East Larimer County Water District (ELCO).
So, in effect, they are asking the city of Fort Collins to subsidize them and provide them with
water at a much cheaper rate.
On Jan. 14, the Fort Collins City Council is scheduled to review the Montava application for its
new development. We encourage the council to say “no” to Montava.
First, growth must pay its own way, not be subsidized and fueled by current city ratepayers. If
you live in the Fort Collins Water Utility service area, you should not have your water rates
— or any rates, taxes, and fees — increased because of growth.
Second, extending the city’s valuable water supply outside of its designated service area is a
bad precedent. If our water portfolio is offered to Montava, other developers will knock on
the same door and our ratepayers will be adversely affected.
With all the proposed and predicted growth in the area, this precedent could be a never-
ending water-supply-and-subsidy fiasco for Fort Collins ratepayers.
Third, city ratepayers already have a huge monkey on their backs with the proposed $125
million expenditure to expand Halligan Reservoir northwest of Fort Collins on the North Fork
of the Poudre River.
Adding more developments needing even more water — especially sprawling masses like
Montava — just increases the likelihood that more river-destroying dams will be proposed,
costing more hundreds of millions of dollars.
Finally, the City Council is supposed to represent the citizens of Fort Collins, not some
developer or people who might want to live here in the future.
This development — as well as its problem with affordable water — is not the city’s nor the
citizens’ problem.
In fact, if the city were to accept any new development, the question should be: “What
benefit does this development provide to current citizens?”
It shouldn’t be: “What benefit can the current citizens provide to this development?”
Montava’s growth will bring sprawl, traffic congestion, air pollution, more waste, more
climate-change causing greenhouse gas emissions, more strain on city infrastructure, and
more strain on all city programs and services.
And now they’re seeking a financial benefit because they say they can’t afford the cost of
water for their development, as well as asking to increase the diversion and destruction of the
Poudre River, which provides water to Fort Collins. This Montava project is obviously half-
baked.
You can send an email to the City Council at cityleaders@fcgov.com. You can also show up at
the council meeting on Jan. 14.
Tell the council to represent you and the Poudre River, not sprawling new growth and Texas
developers asking for subsidies.
Gary Wockner is director of Save The Poudre and a Fort Collins Utilities ratepayer. Contact him
at Gary.Wockner@SaveThePoudre.org.
From: b.a. b
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava water request-comment for Jan. 14 mtg
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 1:08:04 PM
I urge you to deny Montava's request for cheaper water from Fort Collins to feed a new
development. This kind of development should be considered unsustainable if it cannot afford
the water and infrastructure to feed it. If there is to be development, it should instead be
conducted where the infrastructures and resources are available and affordable.
As Fort Collins citizens we are already facing ever-increasing utility costs in the city-our
citizens should not be asked to continue sacrificing our well being to line out-of-state
developers' pockets. If this request is approved, it will set a precedent potentially putting us on
the hook to subsidize future water requests. The water is expensive because it is a precious
commodity, we cannot pretend we have a never-ending supply and we cannot afford to let
developers off the hook for their costs at the expense of our citizens.
If this new community is not sustainable without being subsidized by our city and its citizens,
then perhaps that is a sign that it should not exist.
Thank you for voting 'no' to this request.
B. Boddiger
From: KENNETH LAMPORT
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava Water
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 12:25:34 PM
Dear Sirs,
I am definitely opposed to Fort Collins subsidizing Montava water.
Thank you,
KJLamport
3702 Sandy Shore Ln
Fort Collins
From: James Tilmant
To: City Leaders
Subject: Fwd: Montava Development
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 12:14:56 PM
Please do NOT approve the selling of Fort Collins water to the Montava
Development at reduced rates or provide any other supplemental funding to
Montava.
It is outrageous to place additional costs and burdens on existing Fort Collins
homeowners for this development. Water is a limited resource to Front Range
citizens, the City needs to recognize and acknowledge this, and developments
that put further burdens on our water supplies should not be encouraged.
Has this development also received a metropolitan taxing district approval as
well?
Despite over paid and under-performing Atteberry and his Planning
Commission’s appetite to give away tax payer’s money for as many
developments as possible in Fort Collins, we are very much against
metropolitan taxing district approvals. They are nothing but a license for the
developers to make outlandish profits, rob the homeowners of money, and
require others to have to pay the developer’s cost! Please do not approve any
more metropolitan taxing districts!
Please advise me whether or not Montava has received Metropolitan Taxing
District approval.
Thank you.
Jim Tilmant
5703 Pebble Beach Court
Fort Collins, CO
From: Dave Leavitt
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava Project
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 11:47:04 AM
Please, for the sake of the citizens of Fort Collins and the Poudre River system, refrain from
giving handouts of our water to a Texas developer who only has one purpose, to make money
at our expense. This disastrous decision was also played out and approved by Colorado
Springs City Council years ago with a developer. The city still suffers from it's naive
misinformed decision.
Thank you for considering my voice and concern.
Respectfully,
David Leavitt
Fort Collins
From: JGano @ Gmail
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 11:23:52 AM
It is ridiculous to think the City of Fort Collins would consider incurring expenses for its citizens in order to
subsidize the cost of water for the construction of the Montava development. There is no long term benefit from this
project for current Ft. Collins citizens yet they would have to shoulder the cost. Not enough water, do not build. It
is as simple as that.
Jim Gano
970-214-5847
4115 Braidwood Dr.
Ft. Collins, CO 80524
From: C.Lumar
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava - Water and Roads
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 10:22:26 AM
I am requesting that you do not make further accomodations to the developer of Montava for cheaper water.
Approving such a request is not fair and just to exisiting residents. The costs will have to be passed on to someone
and that someone will be the current residents. Take care of your existing citizens, don’t give in because of the
pressure of approving this project.
This current project, Montava, is just the beginning of a large long-term development. If you give in on water, then
you open the door to requests for further subsidies for other parts of the development as the project continues. What
else can the developer eek out from the council? If this developer cannot afford the costs involved to develop the
property then this is not the right developer for the property.
Does the council want to set a precedent of generously subsidzing developers? If you subsidize this one, will you
subsidize the next? Will you subsidize all developers or only developers of large projects or include small
developers too? What are the rules to get a subsidy such as this? Are there any rules?
It is also important that current roads and traffic situations be resolved before issuing any building permits for this
subdivision. We need our existing problems with traffic on Timberline and Lemay and with the railroad resolved
before adding additional traffic burdens to those area. It is already overburdened.
Why would the council make a sacrifice on water costs to get this subdivision started? Why does Ft. Collins need
this subdivision? Who does it really benefit?
Who is the council representing? The citizens of Fort Collins or the developer?
Carolyn Lumar
From: Margaret Reek
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava development
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 10:07:28 AM
The city should not provide any incentives/rate breaks/etc for the proposed Montava development. I don’t believe
that such a huge development is in the best interest of the city inhabitants to begin with, much less helping making
water more affordable because they think it is too expensive.
The city really needs to figure out how to handle the seemingly unchecked growth. Every time you turn around
another plot of land is being planted with houses, condos or apartments. Traffic has increased significantly. The
overall infrastructure isn’t keeping pace with the influx of people.
Let new developments pay their own way and not additionally burden current citizens.
Margaret Reek 80526
Margaret
From: M Strand
To: City Leaders
Subject: Please step back from Montava until Traffic and Water Issues are Resolved
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 9:56:31 AM
City Council Members,
I live on Dayton Drive, right alongside Country Club Road. My wife and I have a toddler and
an infant and look forward to a long life in our home. I am an educator with 20 years of
service in Poudre School District. I use Country Club in the morning and in the evening for
my commute. It is already quite difficult to pull out onto Country Club in the morning. I have
to make a rapid acceleration to get into the flow of traffic...a feat that already feels precarious.
I can't imagine what this would be like with the additional traffic of Montava residents. As
you may know, there is no other way out of our neighborhood.
I also travel along Turnberry Road and Timberline multiple times a week to get my children to
their grandparents' homes. We are often stuck at freight train traffic as it is. What an
impending nightmare should the Montava project go forward.
Lastly, I believe Dr. Gary Wockner brings up important points in his recent opinion piece that
go beyond his typical concerns of detriments to our natural waterways. I trust your council
will consider his reasons for opposition carefully.
For these reasons, my family is firmly against the Montava development. Thank you for taking
the time to carefully consider the long-term implications of this proposed project.
Matt Strand, PhD
From: Jason M. Faris
To: City Leaders
Cc: Michelle Bardino; Daniel Godwin; Katie Nuessly
Subject: Montava Development & Water Supply
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 9:51:20 AM
Good morning City Council Members
I just read the opinion piece from Gary Wockner in the Coloradoan regarding the proposed
Montava development. I agree wholeheartedly with his criticism regarding this latest proposal
that the development can gain access to the City of Ft Collins water district while existing
outside the district itself.
Water rates and money aside, the city needs to protect our water supply from overuse. If
Montava does not have access to the water it needs or cannot afford the water that is available
to them based on the supply that is part of that particular water district, then clearly Montava is
not a sustainable growth project. The Ft. Collins City Council should prioritize protecting our
supply for long term viability, especially in light of climate change, and recognize that the
financial burden of subsidizing a massive growth area like Montava would be irresponsible
and a disservice to its residents.
Thank you.
--
Jason M. Faris
703 Crown Ridge Ln, Unit 2, Fort Collins, CO 80525
From: Jeremy Bair
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava; water issue
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 9:34:33 AM
Vote "NO" on Montava request for water deal. They're going to make plenty of money on this
deal if it goes through. I shouldn't have to pay for their "fair share".
Jeremy Bair
970 310 4700
From: Julie Wallin
To: City Leaders
Subject: Don"t give Fort Collins resident"s water to Montana
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 8:46:54 AM
Hello,
I want to add my voice to the upcoming decisions about water to the new gigantic Montana housing development. I
do not want Fort Collins to provide water to this developer. The Developer should get water for their project from
the water authority where the development is being built, and pay the appropriate price for that water. Fort Collin’s
water is for Fort Collins.
I live in Fort Collins and use water as sparingly as I can so that our city’s water supply is protected for the future. I
want my elected officials to honor my efforts and the efforts of other like-minded citizens by saying ‘no’ to
developers who “can’t afford” water from their local water district and instead come begging Fort Collins for cheap
water. They are out for a cheap deal and a way to line their pockets on the backs of Fort Collins citizens. They made
a business decision to build outside of the city water area, and so their water expenses are their problem - not mine.
Please protect Fort Collins water for Fort Collins residents. Thanks for considering.
Julie Wallin
2819 Michener Drive, Fort Collins
From: Jill Hultin
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montana Application
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 8:35:43 AM
Dear City Council:
I urge you to deny Montava’s application for water to be subsidized by the tax payers of Fort Collins. We can
hardly keep up with the growth as it is. Enough already.
Thank you.
Jill O Hultin
2807 McKeag Drive
Fort Collins, CO. 80526
From: pdu1978@aol.com
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 8:34:34 AM
I have just read Gary Wockner's opinion piece and wholly endorse it. I have been
in touch with Max Moss(the developer) numerous times by email over the past
year asking him how he plans to get water and deal with all the traffic etc.. His
answer is precisely nothing. I live in Maplehill and his traffic plan calls for roads
that link to the ones through and around my residential area, but his answer is
that the new residents will walk and ride bikes, not use cars and shop only in
their own farm store. If this is what you are basing your planning on then we
need to have a talk.
We all know that 4,000 residences mean at least 8,000 people, more likely 12 to
16,000 and 12,000 or more cars plus motorcycles and who knows how many bikes.
Who will be walking to the store in a sub zero Colorado winter and who can
afford to do their weekly shopping at a farm store?.
I have put these questions to Max Moss and seen his traffic plans and the
responses have been pretty much a big zero, when pressed he gets pretty
annoyed and just says you do not understand, but offers no solutions. He also
professes that he is not in it to make money, but to improve the quality of life
for the residents of Fort Collins, so the big Texas Developement Company must
be a non profit??
Now it is looking as if he wants a break on the rate he pays for the water he
needs, if he gets that I want my rate lowered and a rebate for the 8 years I
have been paying the Boxelder rate and lower rates going forward.
This planned developement seems to be way different from the Mountain Vista
subarea future developement plans I was shown when I bought my property in
2011, is it legal to just change the plans?
I urge you to rethink this whole fiasco and come up with a plan that takes into
account the existing infrastructure, residents, quality of life and limited
resources available.
Peter Dundee
2469 Marshfield Lane,
Fort Collins, 80524
970 682 2656
From: Kristy Hughes
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 8:17:17 AM
Dear city council,
I’m a resident of Fort Collins and have lived here all my life. I understand that housing affordability is a real
problem but I don’t think this development is the answer. I think special districts are a scam that the developers are
the only beneficiaries. Also, they should have to pay for water, not the current people who live here through a
subsidy. The amount of traffic that that subdivision will produce in an already congested area, will be too much. I
think first fix Lemay before you add so much more traffic to that area. Personally, I feel that all the bad doesn’t
outweigh what the project could potentially bring to the area.
Thanks, Kristy Brandt
From: Chuck Shinn
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 8:16:38 AM
The opinion piece by Gary Wockner in the Coloradoan expressed my thoughts exactly. I already pay what I consider
very high water rates and any development needs to pay the actual cost of all city services. No subsidies!
Charles Shinn
1231 Live Oak Ct
Fort Collins, CO
From: Bill Miller
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montana water
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 7:43:07 AM
Fort Collins should be doing its share to reduce climate change. Montava and their water needs will do exactly the
opposite. Say no to Montava while we still can. Fort Collins is changing from a nice small city to a smog filled
blade runner nightmare. Please care about the people who already live here by not subsidizing Montava.
Bill Miller
From: Jim Pisula
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montana Development
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 7:32:43 AM
Mayor and Council,
For once I agree with Gary Wockner.
While I don’t live in the FC Utilities water service area, I believe it’s a terrible idea to
subsidize the development of NE Fort Collins by ratepayers.
Let the developers work with the existing utility to reduce access fees or expand resources, or
both. FC water customers shouldn’t be forced to subsidize private entities.
Thank you,
——-
Brenda and Jim Pisula
6255 Eagle Ridge Court
Fort Collins, Colo. 80525
P: (970) 420-1211
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From: Marcus Wiley
To: City Leaders
Subject: Stop Montava Water Subsidy
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 7:20:28 AM
Please respect the quality of life for current citizens and Poudre River habitat by denying
subsidies to large scale developers and greedy outside interests.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
From: Lloyd Walker
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava water
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 7:15:43 AM
Council members
I urge you to deny the request for the montava development based on their lack of a secure
water supply. They should play by rules set out by elco and obtain their water through them.
This issue is all about money and as a Fort Collins water user I object to subsidizing their
water needs. Follow the oft repeated policy that development pays its own way. Fort Collins
has done a great job of planning for our city water needs and we should continue to carefully
manage this precious and limited resource.
Thank you
Lloyd Walker
Lloyd Walker Sent from my iPhone
970.218.4275
Lloyd@engr.colostate.edu
From: Christina Pender
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2020 12:03:02 AM
You must represent me, my wonderful Fort Collins community, and the Poudre River -
not sprawling new growth and Texas developers asking for subsidies.
Growth must pay its own way with strict community standards that limit water use, ease
traffic congestion and pollution, and pay to increase our police and fire services.
Thanks to Gary Wockner for bringing this to my attention.
Christina Pender, (of Bellvue and Fort Collins)
From: Karenbwarren
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 11:21:30 PM
Dear Council Members,
Please do not support the Montava Project’s request for subsidized water. This is not beneficial to the citizens of
Fort Collins and sets a bad precedent. Water is an important commodity that we must protect. This should not be
something our City does for a developer.
Thank you for your consideration.
Regards,
Karen Warren
Citizen of Fort Collins
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From: Katherine Duchen Smith
To: Eric Sutherland
Cc: Wade Troxell; Carrie Daggett; City Leaders; Clay Frickey; Brad Yatabe; Delynn Coldiron; Rebecca Everette; Darin
Atteberry; Tom Leeson; Cameron Gloss; max@hf2m.com; IAatcentre@hotmail.com; kayroos1949@yahoo.com;
jp@tmharley.com; DPeck@AblazeGroup.com; nansollo@gmail.com; David Beede; camcolee@gmail.com;
mktsol@msn.com; Analene Carlisle; Andrea Mihajlov; David Cismoski; Deanna Adams; Dianna French; Dick
Easley; Don Homan; Ed Robert; Francie Scolley; Ginger Davila; Goanna Harms; Hunter; Jim and Judy Moore; Jim
Salisbury; Kathy Mrocko; Linda Helm; Linda Rager; Michael Gordon; Patty Nichols; Paul Navarre; Quentin
Rockwell; Rachel Lee; Ram Oad; Ray Cole; Rita Deike; Roger Cox; Ronnie Owens; Ted Rossin; Ty Easley; Vicki
Mayea; Virginia Mohr-Callahan; drsparkman61@yahoo.com; drummond.hrco@gmail.com;
lorin@waterwiselandscapes.com; morganbridger@gmail.com; Fred Zipp; Martha Coleman; Rachel Hopper; Tasha
Marchant; bsdacctg@boxeldersanitation.org; Raju Jairam; Jim@ushba.com; ERIC; Gib Charles; Sandy;
paj109@comcast.net; Gary Wockner
Subject: Re: Montava PUD: Lapse of opportunity to preserve argument/evidence
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 10:47:27 PM
Wade,
We're awaiting your reply as to how this process actually is supposed to work. As longtime
residents of our community we feel we are entitled to a timely reply so we have a better
understandng of this matter with such enormous potential impact.
Thank you,
Katherine & Bruce Smith
On Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 2:29 PM Eric Sutherland <sutherix@yahoo.com> wrote:
But Wade, I don't want to participate in the hearing. I want to submit written
comments for consideration by the decision makers that will, thereafter, be included
in the record on appeal, should there be one. These written comments, BTW,
contain more material than might be delivered at the podium in 3 minutes.
When must my written comments be submitted? Please answer this very, very
basic question.
I expect that the hearing will take on the all the characteristics that other kangaroo
court hearings I have watched and participated in. Quasi-judicial proceedings are
very narrow in terms of the scope of concerns that may be considered by the
decision maker. Citizens are never told this. This truth is also largely
misunderstood by the decision makers themselves.
In the case of the Montava PUD, the proposed Ordinance represents such
astounding disregard for the criteria prescribed by law, that I submitted a CORA
request just to see if anyone had an idea what the criteria are.
The entire situation is conflated by the fact that criteria that is prescribed by law is
now scheduled to be amended as soon as it is applied, presumably with the intent
that the amendments apply retrospectively. And then the legislative enactment by
which the criteria will be amended are resolutions, even though the City Charter
unquestionably requires that such legislative enactments be made by ordinance.
(This conflict between state statute and City Charter must be resolved by deferring
to the Charter. The manner by which the governing body of Home Rule municipality
shall conduct its affairs is exclusively a matter of local interest, except for things like
requirements for open meetings which you are still threatening to violate.)
Hopefully you catch my drift here, Wade. The whole thing reduces to a simple
question of how citizens might best protect their legal rights ... and participating in a
non-sensical process is not the way to do this.
Please answer the question and let us all know what the deadline is for submission
of written comments alleging deficiencies in the application.
Thanks,
Eric
On Saturday, January 11, 2020, 01:33:37 PM MST, Wade Troxell <wtroxell@fcgov.com> wrote:
Eric:
Thank you for your input and sharing your concerned. Please come and participate in the hearing on
Tuesday.
Regards,
Wade
Mayor Wade Troxell
City of Fort Collins, Colorado
2017 Malcolm Baldrige Award - City of Fort Collins recognized for “an unceasing drive for
radical innovation, thoughtful leadership, and operational excellence.”
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On Jan 11, 2020, at 11:24 AM, Eric Sutherland <sutherix@yahoo.com> wrote:
W͗ade,
Could you simply tell the good people of Fort Collins when their
arguments and evidence regarding the Montava PUD must be preserved
in the record in order to be considered by the district court on appeal.
The Montava PUD application is ridiculously deficient. I hit one dozen
grounds for overturning an approval on appeal and then just stopped.
The only question I have is when the argument and evidence needs to
be presented to the city in order to be included in the record on appeal ...
if it passes.
As you know, City Council is completely incompetent when acting in a
quasi-judicial capacity. Any arguments alleging a legal deficiency are
quickly referred to the City Attorney. The result is always the same: an
allegation that the requirements of law are being disregarded is always
incorrect, per Carrie Daggett. She could be replaced with a
electronically recorded message for this purpose.
Consequently, there is no reason to attempt to persuade Council. The
only way for citizens of Fort Collins to protect their rights under law is to
ensure that the record of proceeding contains sufficient argument for
certiorari review.
So tell us, when do arguments need to be preserved for appeal? I have
included the email addresses of some folks that may also want to know
this information.
The process is confusing. Two readings of an ordinance. Three
amendments to the legal criteria that Council is supposed to apply to the
facts of the application are being made immediately after consideration
of first reading. No public hearing has been indicated or noticed for
second reading.
No one, myself included, can be certain when the deadline for
submission of material to be included in the record on appeal will occur.
Please clarify this important detail.
Eric Sutherland
On Friday, January 10, 2020, 10:20:59 AM MST, Eric Sutherland <sutherix@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Ms. Dagget and city officials,
Please provide the public with the city's position on the time that it
believes citizens opportunity to preserve argument and evidence in the
record regarding the Montava PUD approval lapses.
This question essentially asks whether or not opponents or proponents
of the PUD application must preserve argument and evidence by no
later than the close of the public hearing on first reading, or whether
argument and evidence that is received by the decision makers no later
than commencement of second reading of the Ordinance will, from the
city's perspective, be deemed to have been timely filed for purposes of
certiorari review.
Because the City itself will compile and transmit the record in the event
of an appeal, I believe it would be good for the public interest to have
this specific question answered as soon as possible. I request that this
question be answered by the end of today, Friday, Jan. 10th, 2020.
Eric Sutherland
From: Nathan Bloomer
To: City Leaders; gary.wockner@savethepoudre.org
Subject: I say no to subsidizing water costs for montava
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 10:07:14 PM
Let growth pay it's way not the citizens. This is ridiculous I've lived here for 31 years and
never has anyone charged me less for my business or to live n move here. Build the resivours
first secure the water and stop the silliness.
You don't want to damn the poudre for the left but want to appease the right and build more
sticking us in the middle w the costs of not saying no to either. So why not just say yes we
are building 2 new resivours and are charging the new/last ones to arrive w with the bill.
Once they stop coming then it costs to much otherwise we are just leaving money on the
table.
Nate Bloomer
9702185354
From: Marilyn Morgan
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 9:51:04 PM
To the City Council of Fort Collins;
It is not the responsibility of the City or the current residents to subsidize this planned
development. Water is and always has been in limited supply in this part of the world. The
City Council is responsible for making this city a great place to live for those who already live
here, and not make them pay for those who wish to live here.
An additional 4,000 homes and 12,000 people in that area is a very poor strategic plan. The
increased traffic alone is impossible to imagine. There is not the infrastructure to support that
much additional traffic in that area of town.
This developer is only looking to make a heafty profit from the current status of Fort Collins
as a very desirable place to live. Once the development is complete, they will return to Texas
and leave those of us who currently live here here to pay the price.
I was born (1953) and raised in this town and have seen enourmous change. Much of it has
been very good, but Montava is a really bad idea. For many significant reasons.
Please, do not put the burden of the cost of this poorly thought out developement on the
current residents of Fort Collins and Latimer County.
Regards,
Marilyn Morgan
317 Aspen Ridge Drive
Fort Collins, CO 80524
From: Martha Kunter
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 9:45:06 PM
Be careful with water. I believe they need to buy own water
Thanks
From: Janice Lynne
To: City Leaders
Subject: Water for Montana
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 9:37:22 PM
Dear City Leaders - We know that Montava has been admired as a model city project. We
agree that there is much to admire about how this project has been conceived.
Now, Montava developers are asking the city for water so they can lower the price of it, and
hence lower their costs for their very large development. We don’t believe that the city should
incentivize development that doesn’t pay for itself. It’s beginning to look like this turn of
events could increase the current cost and demand for water and contribute to the rising cost of
living and current quality of life in Fort Collins. Now that we are retired, after living and
working here for thirty four years, we just can’t afford to add to the current accelerating cost
of living of Fort Collins.
We would like to add that we personally don’t believe this arid land will sustain the massive
development and huge increases of population that the city projects will occur. In our view
such factors as climate change and the casino capitalism that has captured our financial
system, will continue to put pressure on us to make wise decisions at all levels based on
criteria other than the status quo. An example of a status quo project is the Foothills Mall,
which we were personally against. Now we're seeing that rents at the mall are so high that
some businesses are struggling or having to close their doors. People have shifted to buying
online and as a friend said, she would not drive down to the mall just for dinner.
In consideration of our above concerns we ask that you refuse the Montava developers request
for city water to save them and/or new homeowners money and, therefore, start a trend of
opening the tap for expanding development that does not benefit current city residents.
Thank you,
Janice Lynne and Tom Hoehn
218 S. Washington Avenue
Fort Collins, CO 80521
From: Terry Krause
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava project
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 8:00:49 PM
Montava’s growth will bring sprawl, traffic congestion, air pollution, more waste,
more climate-change causing greenhouse gas emissions, more strain on city
infrastructure, and more strain on all city programs and services. Montava is seeking
a financial benefit because they say they can’t afford the cost of water for their
development, as well as asking to increase the diversion and destruction of the Poudre
River, which provides water to Fort Collins. Please represent the people of Fort
Collins and reject this proposal.
From: Erin Ellis
To: City Leaders
Subject: No Montava Now
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:56:40 PM
The proposed Montava development would not be good for our community. My main concern
is with the infrastructure. The traffic in this part of Fort Collins and Larimer County is already
greatly challenged.
There are basically four North and South roads (I-25, Timberline, Lemay and College) and
only one real East to West road in Mountain Vista / Country Club. It is about logistics. We just
can't get more traffic to work safely without some significant changes.
We live on Lakeview Drive. Already it can be very difficult and dangerous to turn left / west
onto Country Club. This is true for all the streets connecting with Country Club between
Lakeview and Lemay. West is where shopping, town, business and connections happen.
New residents will also head west to get to these same resources. The intersection at the
entrance to the Country Club is where the chaos begins. It is an awkward three way stop
without sidewalks or room to expand to more lanes. Once automobiles make it past the stop
they fly off (above the 30 mph speed limit) around Long Pond. As they travel towards the four
way stop at Lemay they create a steady stream of paced traffic that makes it very difficult to
safely time a left turn on Lemay. We can turn East and work our way over to Timberline
(which the other traffic is already avoiding).
Timberline is the next issue. The left turn onto Mountain Vista when heading north is the first
issue. It is very dangerous at times. I assume a light is in the works to alleviate this. The
intersection at Timberline and Vine is the main problem area. The four way stop combined
with the railroad crossing is a major bottleneck that already has residents avoiding it (thus why
residents head west on Country Club).
The intersection at Lemay and Vine is equally as bad. There is a proposed overpass for this
intersection that is very questionable for viability and whether it will really help with all the
future traffic.
The theoretical extension of Turnberry is even more problematic. If it is realistic, it should be
solved first.
As mentioned above, the problematic intersections are numerous. It is not a question of
solving one of these, but all of these, before significant growth occurs. Montava would double
the density in this area. The infrastructure around here was not designed to effectively handle
the current density, much less twice as much. This is a life safety issue, not just a quality of
life issue.
And then of course, there is the water matter. Please solve all these before significant growth
is permitted.
Sincerely,
Erin and Melisa Ellis
970.218.5057
1725 Lakeview Drive
Fort Collins, CO 80524
From: debarenda
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava Project
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:28:17 PM
Hello,
I am a consumer of the East Larimer County Water District.
Even though we may be in need of more development, there has to be a smart and
realistic solution to the basic needs of this project.
The Montava project will cause further destruction by modifications that will need to be
done in order to make it feasible for them to have water at a cost effective rate.
I feel it is imperative not to pass the cost of this onto current consumers of City of Fort
Collins water or other services.
Thank you for your time and consideration
Barbara
From: Barela Family
To: City Leaders
Subject: [WARNING: Possible Scam Fraud] Montava
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:11:28 PM
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Greetings, Fort Collins City Council,
I am writing to request that you do NOT approve the Montava development application.
As Fort Collins residents, my husband and I have actively sought ways to mitigate the rising
costs of utilities. Three years ago, we invested in solar panels for our home. We also replaced
our home's original furnace with a more efficient furnace to reduce our energy consumption.
None of this was cheap but we felt good about it because, not only would we be doing
something good for the planet, but we would also reduce our utilities bill. And for a while, we
did enjoy a reduced bill.
Then with restructuring of the billing procedures for city utilities, suddenly our utility bills
were higher through no fault of our own nor any change in our usage patterns. Talk about
frustrating! So, last year, we began renovating our landscape to drastically reduce our water
usage. Here we are making costly renovations in hopes of reducing our water usage only to
hear that you are considering approval to an out-of-state developer who can't create a
develpment budget that includes obvious and predictable costs?? Your approval of this
development will certainly result in costs being passed on to Fort Collins residents causing our
utility costs to rise yet again!? I'm so disappointed and beyond frustrated.
My husband and I grew up here and are proud to call Fort Collins our hometown. We love
Fort Collins but have been frustrated in the amount of development that has truly changed the
feel of our beloved hometown. Perhaps Montava needs to scale back their development plans
in order to factor in the cost of buying water from ELCO.
Or better yet, perhaps Fort Collins isn't the right fit for Montava at all. Slow down this growth
explosion to a manageable pace and, instead of worrying about the citizens who don't live here
yet, please put more energy into taking care of the citizens who are already here. We love it
here and we are doing everything we can to be able to continue to afford living here.
Sincerely,
Mary and Scott Barela
From: Robert Marschke
To: City Leaders
Subject: From Dr. Robert Marschke re: Infrastructure needed for Montava Development
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 5:37:04 PM
Dear ladies and gentlemen;
I've recently had knee surgery, and I'll likely be unable to attend the City Council meeting
on 1/14/20.
As a resident of Fort Collins in zip code 80524 I've been very discouraged by the congestion
of auto traffic on Lemay Avenue and other streets near my home.
I'm sending this email message to you to emphasize the critical importance of completing
street improvements and other infrastructure improvements before construction on the
Montava residential project begins.
Thank you for your time and kind consideration of this email message.
Sincerely,
Robert F. Marschke, Jr., M.D.
1836 Ridgecrest Drive
Fort Collins, CO 80524
Cell phone and text messaging: 970-213-6396
From: Kara McIver
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 4:08:57 PM
Please vote no on this project.
https://www.coloradoan.com/story/opinion/2020/01/11/fort-collins-shouldnt-give-montava-
developer-our-water-opinion/4433929002/
Thanks,
Kara McIver
3500 Rolling Green Dr., B4
Fort Collins, co 80525
Kara McIver
she/her/hers
apologies for typos and brevity, this email is coming from my phone.
From: Jul
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava Water Issue
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 4:04:51 PM
To Our Fort Collins City Leaders,
Expansion and development in Fort Collins has a long history of benefiting newcomers while
applying financial pressure and burdens unto the current and long-standing residents of FoCo.
So I'll politely and strongly suggest that you consider the people you represent when making a
decision to subject them to further financial burden of covering a subsidy on water to the
planned Montava project location. There is no argument on the basis of rate, size of financial
burden, or kindness being done unto those who will inhabit the Montava project by throwing
the costs of subsidized water at current Fort Collins residents. Do no join the ever-growing
trend of succumbing to the will of corporate agendas and selling out your constituents for the
whatever sake makes that acceptable to so many. Make a statement against this Montava
lunacy and side with your people.
Sincerely,
Julian Inscho
From: k.hardes@yahoo.com
To: City Leaders
Subject: Say NO to Montava
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 3:06:37 PM
Fort Collins city leaders,
I am writing to request that you deny giving the Montava development any subsidy in
the way of water supplies. Any new development needs to pay it's own way, not be
subsidized by the city...WE DON'T NEED MORE RESIDENTS!!! The congestion in
the city has steadily gotten worse in the 25 years that I have lived here and I don't see
it getting any better any time soon.
Please don't give subsidies in any form to bring more people to our much loved city!
Thanks for your consideration.
Keith Hardes
2455 Hampshire Sq
Fort Collins, CO 80526
From: Eric Sutherland
To: Wade Troxell
Cc: Carrie Daggett; City Leaders; Clay Frickey; Brad Yatabe; Delynn Coldiron; Rebecca Everette; Darin Atteberry;
Tom Leeson; Cameron Gloss; max@hf2m.com; IAatcentre@hotmail.com; kayroos1949@yahoo.com;
jp@tmharley.com; DPeck@AblazeGroup.com; nansollo@gmail.com; David Beede; camcolee@gmail.com;
mktsol@msn.com; Analene Carlisle; Andrea Mihajlov; David Cismoski; Deanna Adams; Dianna French; Dick
Easley; Don Homan; Ed Robert; Francie Scolley; Ginger Davila; Goanna Harms; Hunter; Jim and Judy Moore; Jim
Salisbury; Kathie and Bruce Smith; Kathy Mrocko; Linda Helm; Linda Rager; Michael Gordon; Patty Nichols; Paul
Navarre; Quentin Rockwell; Rachel Lee; Ram Oad; Ray Cole; Rita Deike; Roger Cox; Ronnie Owens; Ted Rossin;
Ty Easley; Vicki Mayea; Virginia Mohr-Callahan; drsparkman61@yahoo.com; drummond.hrco@gmail.com;
lorin@waterwiselandscapes.com; morganbridger@gmail.com; Fred Zipp; Martha Coleman; Rachel Hopper; Tasha
Marchant; bsdacctg@boxeldersanitation.org; Raju Jairam; Jim@ushba.com; ERIC; Gib Charles; Sandy;
paj109@comcast.net; Gary Wockner
Subject: Re: Montava PUD: Lapse of opportunity to preserve argument/evidence
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 2:30:06 PM
But Wade, I don't want to participate in the hearing. I want to submit written
comments for consideration by the decision makers that will, thereafter, be included in
the record on appeal, should there be one. These written comments, BTW, contain
more material than might be delivered at the podium in 3 minutes.
When must my written comments be submitted? Please answer this very, very basic
question.
I expect that the hearing will take on the all the characteristics that other kangaroo
court hearings I have watched and participated in. Quasi-judicial proceedings are
very narrow in terms of the scope of concerns that may be considered by the decision
maker. Citizens are never told this. This truth is also largely misunderstood by the
decision makers themselves.
In the case of the Montava PUD, the proposed Ordinance represents such
astounding disregard for the criteria prescribed by law, that I submitted a CORA
request just to see if anyone had an idea what the criteria are.
The entire situation is conflated by the fact that criteria that is prescribed by law is
now scheduled to be amended as soon as it is applied, presumably with the intent
that the amendments apply retrospectively. And then the legislative enactment by
which the criteria will be amended are resolutions, even though the City Charter
unquestionably requires that such legislative enactments be made by ordinance.
(This conflict between state statute and City Charter must be resolved by deferring to
the Charter. The manner by which the governing body of Home Rule municipality
shall conduct its affairs is exclusively a matter of local interest, except for things like
requirements for open meetings which you are still threatening to violate.)
Hopefully you catch my drift here, Wade. The whole thing reduces to a simple
question of how citizens might best protect their legal rights ... and participating in a
non-sensical process is not the way to do this.
Please answer the question and let us all know what the deadline is for submission of
written comments alleging deficiencies in the application.
Thanks,
Eric
On Saturday, January 11, 2020, 01:33:37 PM MST, Wade Troxell <wtroxell@fcgov.com> wrote:
Eric:
Thank you for your input and sharing your concerned. Please come and participate in the hearing on
Tuesday.
Regards,
Wade
Mayor Wade Troxell
City of Fort Collins, Colorado
2017 Malcolm Baldrige Award - City of Fort Collins recognized for “an unceasing drive for radical
innovation, thoughtful leadership, and operational excellence.”
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On Jan 11, 2020, at 11:24 AM, Eric Sutherland <sutherix@yahoo.com> wrote:
W͗ade,
Could you simply tell the good people of Fort Collins when their arguments
and evidence regarding the Montava PUD must be preserved in the
record in order to be considered by the district court on appeal.
The Montava PUD application is ridiculously deficient. I hit one dozen
grounds for overturning an approval on appeal and then just stopped.
The only question I have is when the argument and evidence needs to be
presented to the city in order to be included in the record on appeal ... if it
passes.
As you know, City Council is completely incompetent when acting in a
quasi-judicial capacity. Any arguments alleging a legal deficiency are
quickly referred to the City Attorney. The result is always the same: an
allegation that the requirements of law are being disregarded is always
incorrect, per Carrie Daggett. She could be replaced with a electronically
recorded message for this purpose.
Consequently, there is no reason to attempt to persuade Council. The
only way for citizens of Fort Collins to protect their rights under law is to
ensure that the record of proceeding contains sufficient argument for
certiorari review.
So tell us, when do arguments need to be preserved for appeal? I have
included the email addresses of some folks that may also want to know
this information.
The process is confusing. Two readings of an ordinance. Three
amendments to the legal criteria that Council is supposed to apply to the
facts of the application are being made immediately after consideration of
first reading. No public hearing has been indicated or noticed for second
reading.
No one, myself included, can be certain when the deadline for submission
of material to be included in the record on appeal will occur. Please
clarify this important detail.
Eric Sutherland
On Friday, January 10, 2020, 10:20:59 AM MST, Eric Sutherland <sutherix@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Ms. Dagget and city officials,
Please provide the public with the city's position on the time that it believes
citizens opportunity to preserve argument and evidence in the record
regarding the Montava PUD approval lapses.
This question essentially asks whether or not opponents or proponents of
the PUD application must preserve argument and evidence by no later
than the close of the public hearing on first reading, or whether argument
and evidence that is received by the decision makers no later than
commencement of second reading of the Ordinance will, from the city's
perspective, be deemed to have been timely filed for purposes of certiorari
review.
Because the City itself will compile and transmit the record in the event of
an appeal, I believe it would be good for the public interest to have this
specific question answered as soon as possible. I request that this
question be answered by the end of today, Friday, Jan. 10th, 2020.
Eric Sutherland
From: Cheryl
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 2:12:15 PM
Gary Wockner’s opinion in the Coloradoan presented several valid and thoughtful points. I do
not know Gary, but felt compelled to appeal to our City Council about the proposed Montava
project.
Fort Collins is a desirable place to live and I understand why developers want to come here
and build their huge money-making developments, however, Fort Collins and Colorado in
general have limited natural resources. Development needs to pay its own way. New
development needs to be a benefit to our society, not a drain on it.
Our utility rates continue to climb yearly and many in this town are barely able to make ends
meet. Now this developer wants to circumvent the utility (utilities) his subdivision falls within
and expects Fort Collins and its citizens to provide him with cheaper alternatives. This is not
fair to the citizens who work, have worked, and continue to work to make Fort Collins the city
it is.
It is not right or just for a developer to expect special privileges. We, as citizens, pay what is
expected of us in order to live here. Developers need to respect our area and the boundaries of
the various utility companies and should not even be asking Fort Collins to step outside their
boundary and supply him cheaper water. The Front Range, and that includes Fort Collins,
already has a water deficit most years. We endure droughts and higher and higher water costs
to be able to meet the needs of the current citizens. How can stressing our resources further be
beneficial?
Pay the going rate in the area selected to develop. Do not expect the citizens of Fort Collins to
fund your development in any way. Besides the initial costs of installing lines and equipment
there are future costs for repair, maintenance, and upgrades as well as newer and bigger plants
being needed at some point. Meeting this developers demands would be creating a never-
ending revolving door.
Additionally, it has been reported that this developer wants Fort Collins to provide sewer
service because it is cheaper than Boxelder. Again, the developer chose an area not served by
Fort Collins. Developers should not expect Fort Collins to step on toes of other utilities just to
save some money. The districts are set-up to afford opportunities for growth for each one in
the area. Fort Collins does not have the right, nor should they take liberties, to undercut these
other utility providers. What will this developer or others down the road ask for next?
Fort Collins does not need the additional traffic, pollution, or strain on our natural resources
and infrastructure that his proposed subdivision is sure to bring. I (we) ask the City Council
members to please consider the citizens they represent and this beautiful area we call home
and vote not to step outside our utility boundaries to meet this developer's or any developer's
request. We must take steps now to preserve the future of our area.
Sincerely,
Cheryl L Hyde
Anthony D Hyde
From: Bill King
To: City Leaders
Subject: MONTAVA
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 2:05:26 PM
I am sending you this email regarding the pending Montava development project. I
do not support using tax payer money to financially support this development. I have
seen the City Council respond to citizen input in the past and hope they will do so
regarding this issue. The City Council represents the citizens of Fort Collins interest,
not a Texas developer. I reside in Councilman Summers district, District III. See you
on the evening of the 14th…..
JW King, Jr.
6319 Victoria Road
Fort Collins, CO
240/997-9325
jwkingjr2027@yahoo.com
From: Karen Miller
To: City Leaders
Cc: Bill Email
Subject: water for Montava
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 1:42:18 PM
Fort Collins should be doing its share to reduce climate change. Montava and their water
needs will do exactly the opposite. Say no to Montava while we still can. Fort Collins is
changing from a nice small city to a smog filled blade runner nightmare. Please care about the
people who already live here by not subsidizing Montava.
From: brndnann@aol.com
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava Development
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 1:32:40 PM
Dear Council members,
I am a resident of District One in Northeast Fort Collins. I have followed with interest the neighborhood
discussions on Nextdoor about increased traffic on County Club, and, more recently, the discussion of the
Montava housing development plan.
Today I read an opinion piece in the Coloradoan about giving subsidized water rights from the City of Fort
Collins to the private developers of Montava. I am completely opposed to this. Additionally, I wish that
the City would rely more on their own Social Sustainability Department to take the lead on affordable
housing. I am interested in more affordable housing for deserving residents who are currently having
difficulty finding housing, if and only if, the projects are managed by the city for the true benefit of folks
who cannot find affordable housing options. At the hearing on the Hughes sight, I was dismayed to learn
that even though developers may propose to have certain units set aside as affordable housing, there
seems to be no way to enforce developers to follow through on their promises.
Thank you for your work on behalf of the citizens of Fort Collins, and, I plead with you, do not abandon
the concerns of current citizens in lieu of helping out-of-state developers who really care little about the
long-term problems facing Fort Collins residents.
Sincerely,
Ann Brandon
601-259-4190
601 Agape Way
Fort Collins, CO 80524
From: Nina Forsyth
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 12:36:26 PM
Dear leaders,
My name is Nina Forsyth and I've been a resident for the past 6 years in Fort Collins. I have been reading
about the new development called Montava recently and I am writing to express concern. First, I am
concerned that this new development will bring even more traffic and too many people to our home which
already feels like it is bursting at the seams. If we can't afford to expand i25, then it seems absurd to
increase our traffic problem before widening the highway. Second, water is a scarce resource.
Considering the climate crisis, we have to protect our water but still remember to keep our rivers healthy
by avoiding dams. We don't have the surplus of water to allow Fort Collins water to go to this
development. Current residents of Fort Collins should not be burdened with this extra cost. Not only this,
but our air quality has been decreasing because of all of the development, traffic, and fracking. We simply
don't have the resources to provide for a development as large as Montava because we haven't even
figured out how to make our own home clean and healthy.
In my opinion, the approval of this development would demonstrate a lack of care for the current
residents. Our city is amazing and I've loved living here, but it is already getting too crowded and too
expensive. If we are going to develop, we should consider how we can make our current neighborhoods
more conducive to meeting climate goals. I appreciated the vision of Montava to be an agri-urban
community. However, we don't need a new development to do this. I love how accessible buying from
local farmers is currently, but of course it can be expanded. We can enable our farmers in greater
capacities and educate our citizens on why it is important to shop locally instead of at walmart, sprouts, or
king soopers. We can do more to make our current developments more environmentally friendly and also
more affordable.
Please consider the long-term effects of Montava before approving the site, or at least before letting them
use our water. I would be very disappointed if this new development were added to the burden of current
energy and water use.
Kind Regards,
Nina
From: Stu Cook
To: City Leaders
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 12:07:40 PM
Dear City Council members,
I couldn't agree more with the opinion article in the Fort Collins Coloradoan today. It is your
responsibility as council members to represent citizen interests first and foremost. Entertaining
some unreasonable request from a multimillion-dollar development organization is against our
interests and the future of the Fort Collins area. Please remember, you are beholden to the
citizens and taxpayers of this community, not an outside corporation asking for a damaging
precedent-setting exception.
Respectfully,
Stuart Cook
From: klhsfbookworm
To: City Leaders
Subject: Please say no to Montana. Our rates are high now.
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 11:08:06 AM
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From: Kathleen Riepe
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montana NO!
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 10:58:10 AM
Please keep the quality of life for those who already live in Fort Collins.
DO Not approve the Montava development. We don’t need more people. The only folks
who benefit from that are developers and mortgage companies.
The cost of providing water and services to that many more people is not worth it for the
majority of residents.
Thank you,
Kathleen Riepe
1509 Front Nine Drive
Fort Collins
From: Laurie Miale
To: City Leaders
Subject: Say to to Montavo
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 10:31:51 AM
I am writing to voice my opposition to providing Fort Collins water to this developer. Please put the current
residents Of Fort Collins as your Priority. We don’t need the sprawl
Laurie Hutton
Sent from my iPhone
From: Gary Wockner
To: City Leaders
Subject: Save The Poudre Comment: "Don"t Give Montava Our Water"
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2020 10:12:04 AM
Hi Fort Collins City Council,
Save The Poudre has taken a position on the Montava project, which will be considered at
your Jan 14th meeting. We wrote it as a column just posted in the Coloradoan. I paste the
column in below, but ask you not to share it so as to not violate the Coloradoan's paywall.
Link: https://www.coloradoan.com/story/opinion/2020/01/11/fort-collins-shouldnt-give-
montava-developer-our-water-opinion/4433929002/
Thank you for considering our input. Feel free to reach out to me with any questions.
Gary Wockner, Director, Save The Poudre
DON'T GIVE OUR WATER TO MONTAVA
From where I stand, the massive proposed new development of
nearly 4,000 houses (and about 12,000 people) — the “Montava”
project — in northeast Fort Collins near the Budweiser facility has hit
a snag: water.
The Montava developer — a corporation based in Texas — has
publicly stated that they don’t have access to “affordable water” and
they can’t afford to buy it from the water district that supplies water
to that area, the East Larimer County Water District (ELCO).
So, in effect, they are asking the city of Fort Collins to subsidize
them and provide them with water at a much cheaper rate.
On Jan. 14, the Fort Collins City Council is scheduled to review the
Montava application for its new development. We encourage the
council to say “no” to Montava.
First, growth must pay its own way, not be subsidized and fueled by
current city ratepayers. If you live in the Fort Collins Water Utility
service area, you should not have your water rates — or any rates,
taxes, and fees — increased because of growth.
Second, extending the city’s valuable water supply outside of its
designated service area is a bad precedent. If our water portfolio is
offered to Montava, other developers will knock on the same door
and our ratepayers will be adversely affected.
With all the proposed and predicted growth in the area, this precedent
could be a never-ending water-supply-and-subsidy fiasco for Fort
Collins ratepayers.
Third, city ratepayers already have a huge monkey on their backs
with the proposed $125 million expenditure to expand Halligan
Reservoir northwest of Fort Collins on the North Fork of the Poudre
River.
Adding more developments needing even more water — especially
sprawling masses like Montava — just increases the likelihood that
more river-destroying dams will be proposed, costing more hundreds
of millions of dollars.
Finally, the City Council is supposed to represent the citizens of Fort
Collins, not some developer or people who might want to live here in
the future.
This development — as well as its problem with affordable water
— is not the city’s nor the citizens’ problem.
In fact, if the city were to accept any new development, the question
should be: “What benefit does this development provide to current
citizens?”
It shouldn’t be: “What benefit can the current citizens provide to this
development?”
Montava’s growth will bring sprawl, traffic congestion, air pollution,
more waste, more climate-change causing greenhouse gas emissions,
more strain on city infrastructure, and more strain on all city
programs and services.
And now they’re seeking a financial benefit because they say they
can’t afford the cost of water for their development, as well as asking
to increase the diversion and destruction of the Poudre River, which
provides water to Fort Collins. This Montava project is obviously
half-baked.
You can send an email to the City Council at cityleaders@fcgov.com.
You can also show up at the council meeting on Jan. 14.
Tell the council to represent you and the Poudre River, not sprawling
new growth and Texas developers asking for subsidies.
Gary Wockner is director of Save The Poudre and a Fort Collins
Utilities ratepayer. Contact him at
Gary.Wockner@SaveThePoudre.org
--
Gary Wockner, PhD, Director
Save The Poudre: Poudre Waterkeeper
Author: "River Warrior: Fighting to Protect the World's
Rivers" (2016)
PO Box 20, Fort Collins, CO 80522
http://savethepoudre.org
http://www.facebook.com/SaveThePoudre
https://twitter.com/savethepoudre
970-218-8310
From: Delynn Coldiron
To: Delynn Coldiron
Subject: New development
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 2:04:12 PM
I am a long time resident of Fort Collins having previously lived on Locust Street. It has been
interesting to see, and feel the effects, of Fort Collins growing from a small town into a major city.
We are now to the point of discussing what will happen with the land which was previously
the stadium.
I think the plan for less density and more open space will be of a benefit.
However, I am totally opposed to the city (us) subsidizing wager for the new development! If a
company wants the development and rake in the profits then it is only fair they pay the necessary
price. It is NOT fair that I would have to pay more utility costs for them to make a profit.
Water is a limited resource.....my grandfather was city engineer of Denver (Peter O’Brian) and a
hundred years ago he was vigilant about protecting the water rights in Colorado. There will be
thousands of homes in this new development....we should NOT subsidize the cost.
I am on a fixed income and Fort Collins is already an expensive place to live. Do not pass on more
subsidized costs to me so these developers will make more money.
I will be watching how each of you vote.
Thank you for your attention.
Ellen Willis
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
From: Rebecca Everette
To: Clay Frickey; Delynn Coldiron; Sara Gonzales
Subject: FW: New Comcate eFM case: Planning>Planning (you are owner)
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 2:54:10 PM
For the Montava record.
Rebecca Everette
Development Review Manager | City of Fort Collins
reverette@fcgov.com | 970.416.2625 direct
-----Original Message-----
From: accessfortcollins=fcgov.com@mg.comcate.com <accessfortcollins=fcgov.com@mg.comcate.com> On
Behalf Of City of Fort Collins
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 12:10 PM
To: Rebecca Everette <reverette@fcgov.com>
Subject: New Comcate eFM case: Planning>Planning (you are owner)
Case ID#: 53112
Case Detail page: https://clients.comcate.com/reps/caseDetail.php?ag=150&id=1548268
Topic>Subtopic: Planning>Planning
Case Location:
Action that triggered this email: Case created
Customer: Anonymous
Owner: Rebecca Everette
Date case was created (Days outstanding): 01/13/2020 (-0)
Your role on this case: Primary Owner
Customer request (only first sentences): I am very opposed to granting Montava any help in their projected project
which they admit they cannot afford FOCO water! This is a recipe for disaster. Please think about our healthy
community eco system and traffic implications. Thank you for your consideration.
You can also access your account by going to the employee home page and entering your username and password.
From: Diana Rupp
To: City Leaders
Subject: No to Montava and subsidized water
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 2:49:28 PM
Dear Fort Collins City Council members:
As a homeowner in southeast Fort Collins, I am writing to express my strong
opposition to the request by the Texas-based Montava development for the city to
provide water at subsidized rates to supply its proposed development. Not only would
we, the current ratepayers, end up paying for this out of our own pockets, the idea
would set a dangerous precedent for future developers, who would almost certainly
seek the same deal for themselves.
Our beautiful city lies in an area of limited water resources. We simply cannot afford
to build more homes and businesses than our water supply can handle, and this must
be taken into account before approving any new development. As our City Council,
your responsibility is to the citizens of Fort Collins, not to some out-of-state developer.
Please tell the Montava developers that the answer to their request for subsidized
water is a firm and incontrovertible "no."
Diana Rupp
2230 Stonegate Dr.
Fort Collins, CO 80525
From: Scott Rupp
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 3:17:37 PM
I urge the City Council to reject subsidizing the planned Montava development by selling Fort Collins'
water. Fort Collins residents should not be on the hook for the added costs and added demands on our
water supply. We need to protect the Poudre River, our most valuable natural resource, and put a stop to
the rampant development that's hurting our quality of life and jeopardizing our future water supplies.
Scott Rupp
2230 Stonegate Drive
Fort Collins, 80525
From: John W. Green
To: City Leaders
Subject: Fw: Public/Private Development Cooperation on Montava
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:37:28 PM
From: John W. Green
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 12:15 PM
To: cityleaderfs@fcgov.com ; bocc@larimer.org
Subject: Public/Private Development Cooperation on Montava
To Fort Collins City Council Members and Larimer County Board of Commissioners:
First of all, let me remind you that you represent all residents impacted by the Montava
development, not just the developers, very few of whom probably live in the area of the
development. As a resident of this area for the past 44 years, I have elected you and your
predecessors to represent me in managing the problems caused by major developments such
as this.
I am a Regional Economist. I have taught at UNC, CSU, Mines and several other universities as
guest lecturer. I wrote economic columns for the Northern Colorado Business Report and
presented annual economic outlooks for 13 years. I have had many national and local clients
in a consulting capacity. I still currently have multiple real estate development and bank clients
for whom I produce quarterly economic forecasts. I understand the real estate development
market. I know that elected representatives and developers can cooperate if each side is
willing. And I know that our elected representatives (you) have the ultimate power. And you
can use it wisely.
So, let’s cooperate. Montava is proposing 4,000 residents over their buildout period. That will
be a burden on local infrastructure. So, let’s stage that buildout to alleviate the burden. Take
the following actions:
1) Permit only 500 residences before a big box grocery store begins construction. And a gas
station complex (example: King Soopers on North College). And a fast food outlet or three.
You have the power to demand this of the developer and to control the number of housing
permits granted. We’re assuming that the developer will have completed all the internal
infrastructure to accommodate this stage. The developer will be more than willing to help
meet this requirement if it affects the speed at which it can recoup its investment.
2) Don’t walk all over Boxelder Water District. Come to an accommodation: merger, joint
operating agreement, third-part management, be creative. After all, it was the City that bent
the rules to accommodate the Bud factory and inserted itself into the Boxelder Water District
and who now wants the service and tax base created by Montava.
3) Commit the city/county to some level of pre-Montava infrastructure development. Bond it
if you need to. And complete it before more than 500 residences are permitted. Ask the
developer to participate if he wants more permits. It’s easy to extend Turnberry south to
connect to Vine. Connect Suniga Road from Turnberry to College. These are easy roads to
build. That would demonstrate good faith on the part of the City/County to partially solve the
CClub Road traffic problems emanating from the Montava development. Remember, all the
sand and gravel trucks servicing the Montava development will use CClub Road to get from
the Poudre River sand/gravel supply to the development. That will already create a burden on
CClub Road.
Think about the area residents who have been supporting the County and the City with their
taxes for many years. Protect those people before protecting the profits of yet another
developer, who may not even be local.
John W. Green, PhD
Regional Economist
2214 Franklin Road
Fort Collins, CO
From: Robert Russell
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava? NO!
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 3:36:40 PM
I agree with
Fort Collins shouldn't give
Montava developer our water
The developer should pay full price for their water. Their water should not be subsidized by
the current citizens of Fort Collins
SAY NO to the current plan for Montana
Russell
Gary Wockner
Published 8:00 a.m. MT Jan. 11, 2020 | Updated 11:25 a.m. MT Jan. 13, 2020
From: Suzanne Wilson
To: City Leaders
Subject: Water for Montava Development
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 4:14:56 PM
Dear City Leaders,
Please consider not extending Fort Collins water outside its designated area at Montava’s request. It is Montava’s
responsibility to provide water for this huge project, not Fort Collins’s responsibility. Cache la Poudre water must be
conserved for Fort Collins residents and businesses and for the wildlife and trees along the river.
Respectfully,
Suzanne Wilson
From: TIM FECTEAU
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 9:07:29 AM
Dear City Council,
Please keep the citizens of Fort Collins welfare a priority over a land developer.
Developers should pay for any financial and resources impact a new
development has on the city.
We should not be paying them to make a profit on their development and giving
them water. Charge them for the reservoir improvements.
If their development cannot pay for their water and what ever else they require to
make money they should not be here.
As a property owner and utility customer I do not want to subsidize there project
and profits.
DO THE RIGHT THING!!!!!
Regards, Tim Fecteau
--
Tim Fecteau
1749 Deweese St
Fort Collins, Co 80526
Cell 970 430 6894
From: Joni Gunn
To: City Leaders
Subject: No to Montava
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 8:55:02 AM
Fort Collins does not need this burden. No to Texas developers coming here.
Joni Gunn
Fort Collins
From: John Schulz
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava development
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 9:11:13 AM
I urge you not to approve providing water for the Montava development. In my opinion this proposal is wrong on
several levels.
John Schulz
3754 Carrington Road
Sent from my iPad
From: Lisa Aulwurm
To: City Leaders
Subject: Don’t Give Away Our Water!!!
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 8:27:38 AM
Dear Mayor and City Council,
Do NOT subsidize growth on the backs of current rate payers... growth should pay its own way. No way should you
vote for subsidies for a developer that didn’t do their own due diligence on the cost of water in our state. Don’t be
blinded by development at face value. The negative impact is worthy of extra considerations. Water is and will
increasingly be our most precious resource.
Sincerely,
Lisa and Brett Aulwurm
Fort Collins residents since 1984
From: Lois terMeer
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 8:26:17 AM
Dear Council; I strongly agree with Mr. Gary Wockner when he says “What benefit does this development provide
to current citizens?” NOT “What benefit can the current citizens provide to this development?”.
ELCO has already invested a lot of money into providing the water to this developer, yet HF2M has decided they
simply can not afford it? They are backing out on ELCO, and asking the city of FC to subsidize them!
Unfortunately, I will not be able to stand in at the hearing for Montava to be heard; however, I hope my opinion will
be considered. This developer is trying to plead for pity from the citizens of Fort Collins in order to line the project
purse. Please do not allow this!
Lois Termeer
5108 E. Mulberry,
Fort Collins, CO
From: Clay Frickey
To: Delynn Coldiron
Subject: Fw: Montava continued to January 14th
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 8:01:32 AM
Comment for the record for Montava.
Clay Frickey | Redevelopment Program Manager | 970.419.2517
From: Dave Hula <nowuwritetome@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 7:21 AM
To: Clay Frickey <cfrickey@fcgov.com>
Subject: Re: Montava continued to January 14th
Dear Clay,
Please forward my message below to City Council for consideration as part of their review of
the Montava development project today:
Dear Fort Collins City Council:
A key element listed under the 2019 City Plan Neighborhood Livability and Social Health
section is "Requiring adequate public facilities and infrastructure to serve existing
development and new growth." In addition, according to filed documents, "PRINCIPLE MV-
T-1 - Consistent with the Land Use Code, the transportation system within this subarea will
have:
1) Arterial corridors providing safe and efficient multi-modal access to and through the
subarea,
including major features such as railroad under/overpasses (where necessary), and significant
landscape mitigation features; "
Despite the developer claims that this project will potentially decrease traffic volume due to
the increased availability of home inventory, I do not think this will be the case (unless
Montava is planned to be a prison.) This development will generate significant vehicle traffic
and is likely to spur additional nearby development which will only add to the congestion.
I am concerned that no consideration has been given to addressing the railroad crossing on
Mountain Vista Drive despite this concern being raised multiple times during the prior public
comment sessions during the planning process. The railroad crossing is not even mentioned in
the Master Transportation Impact Study!
Additional consideration needs to be given to adding additional vehicle capacity thru Montava
(like changing the city plan to make Giddings Road a 4 lane arterial) and installing cheaper
and safer roundabouts instead of traffic signals to improve traffic flow, or plan for an
additional I-25 interchange or frontage road improvements to lessen the need for traffic from
the north to have to funnel through Montava.
Please deny approval of the Montava development project until adequate plans are in place to
address the transportation issues. The time is NOW to plan an overpass of the Mountain Vista
railroad crossing and additional infrastructure to efficiently handle the traffic. If this is not
done now we are likely to create the same issue we currently have at I-25 and Harmony Road,
but with the added "thrill" of railroad delays.
Thank you again for carefully considering my input.
Regards,
Dave Hula
3540 Terry Lake Road
Fort Collins, CO 80524
On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 8:49 AM Clay Frickey <cfrickey@fcgov.com> wrote:
Hi Dave,
Yes, there will be a public comment period tomorrow night. You can also e-mail any
comments to me and I will get it to Council for their consideration.
Thanks,
Clay
From: Dave Hula <nowuwritetome@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 8:07 AM
To: Clay Frickey <cfrickey@fcgov.com>
Subject: Re: Montava continued to January 14th
Clay,
Will there be a public comment period during the council meeting, and to where should I
direct any email for any comments on Montava I might like to provide?
Thanks.
Dave Hula
On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 10:54 AM Clay Frickey <cfrickey@fcgov.com> wrote:
Hello,
City Council will consider the Montava PUD at the January 14th
meeting rather than on
January 7th
. A City Council member had a family emergency over the holidays that will
not allow them to participate in the hearing on January 7th
. To ensure all members of
Council can vote on this item, City Council will be continuing the Montava hearing to
January 14th
. Please let your neighbors and other interested parties know that may not be
on this distribution list.
I apologize for the series of postponements of this item and the inconveniences this has
caused.
Thanks,
Clay
Clay Frickey | Redevelopment Program Manager
P: 970.416.2517 | C: 303.330.4773
222 Laporte Ave. Fort Collins, CO 80521
From: DAVID ROY
To: Emily Gorgol; CCSL
Subject: Montava
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 7:59:05 AM
Good morning, City Council Member Gorgol;
I hope that 2020 has started out in a great way for you, your friends, and your family.
My reasons for writing to you this morning are simple, yet complicated.
The simple part is that we live in a market economy, often expressed as the
indomitable right of private property to guide our investments, leading to profits.
The complicated part is that we live in a biological world that recognizes no
boundaries, and where the best investment isn't for short term gain against
environmental and social degradation, but in the 7th generation.
Montava is playing on our prejudices of the simple part; more rooftops mean more
opportunities to make money. To sweeten the deal, they will 'give' us more affordable
housing, a goal that you and I have in common.
This is where the complicated part comes in; water, transit, metro districts. A 'private'
free market pays the going rate for a product. Subsidizing water for this project
means socializing the costs, while 'privatizing' the profits. Not having a requirement in
place that Montava build existing roadways to a condition that can accommodate their
planned development should make their plan DOA. Metro Districts epitomize the
Balkanization of local government, ensuring that the glare of transparency and the
requirements of an open and responsive government are diminished.
Council Member Gorgol; don't you think that if 'affordable housing' were a core value
to Montava that it would be baked into their business plan? It isn't, and no amount of
'affordable housing', even if they were to actually build it, is worth subsidizing our
water, allow the deterioration of our roadways, and making accountability from
Montava more difficult through the creation of a Metro District.
Council Member Gorgol; I know you get 'quality of life' the '7th generation' and 'open
and transparent government'. This evening is an opportunity for these values to take
front and center. Until Montava can afford to pay the market rate for water, improve
and expand existing roadways to a standard that will accommodate their vision, and
are willing to go forward and be a full member of the Fort Collins community without a
Metro District being formed, I ask that you vote 'no' on their current plan.
Thank you.
David Roy
2016 Evergreen Court
Fort Collins CO 80521
(970) 237-2794
From: Steve Hultin
To: City Leaders
Subject: Vote No on Water for Montava
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 7:58:49 AM
Please reject the Montava developers requests for water and sewer services from the City Utilities for the housing
area.
The Montava site is outside of the City’s utility district boundaries and it is a very bad precedent to offer services
when existing water and sewer districts exist.
We already have too much growth. Don’t subsidize the costs more. I don’t buy into the concept of developers
pitching lower cost housing while also requesting public funds or other incentives.
Growth is killing our NoCo quality of life!
steve hultin
Fort Collins
From: Rosemary Beauvais
To: City Leaders
Subject: Please Do NOT Subsidize Montana Water
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 7:43:58 AM
I moved to Fort Collins last year from Houston, Texas. I am a homeowner and voter.
There are a number of master planned communities, like Montana, in Houston. I did
not live in one, but I have many friends who do.
I do not think that Montana is good for Fort Collins: Not only because of the water
and traffic concerns, but also because residents of master planned communities tend
to identify the master planned community as their primary/only community. That
community can become the 500 pound gorilla on governance issues. The residents
do not participate in the larger community (Fort Collins) life.
In a city as large as Houston, 4 million, this didn't matter too much. In Fort Collins, it
would matter a lot.
Please do not invent development of master planned communities in Fort Collins.
Thank you for your work and consideration.
Rosemary Beauvais
From: Sean Dougherty
To: City Leaders
Subject: Good morning!
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 7:14:29 AM
Ladies & Gentlemen of the Fort Collins’ Leadership,
First off, thank you for all that you do for our City. I know that it is no small job to help keep a City of
this size chugging along.
I am asking that you please approve the Montava Subdivision tonite at your City Council Meeting.
There are many reasons that I could give for why this makes sense for Fort Collins, including one
single Master Planned Community for the area; affordable and attainable housing; a walkable, varied
housing and commercial stock; a new City Park, more school opportunities; environmentally friendly
design; and less questions for the future.
I’m not going to delve into each of my points above, but I will hit a couple. First, Affordable and
Attainable Housing. Montava has pledged to provide housing for many different price points, and
you have an opportunity to hold them to that with requirements on this approval. But let’s go a bit
further – how can we increase some of the development density, in the right areas, and thus require
more affordable and attainable housing, directed folks in the 60% - 120% AMI range? I do believe
that this is not just possible, but relatively easily attained.
The second huge benefit to Fort Collins, to me, is that this is a way to have one large plan in this
area, vs. having to cobble together small PUDs for the next 30 years, which will likely not have any
continuity nor aesthetically pleasing attributes. Wouldn’t it be awesome to know what will be
coming, and to have all in the city look forward to its arrival?
Personally and professionally, I want Fort Collins to be the best it can be, and I do believe that
Montava is one step towards continuing towards that goal. Thank you for your time!
Sincerely,
Sean Dougherty
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From: Nancy Morgan
To: City Leaders
Subject: Vision for FC future?
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 7:14:28 AM
To our City council leaders;
If Montava, with the additional 4000 new homes, is not the definition of sprawl, then we might as well remove the
word from the dictionary. In addition the access to our already limited and strained water supply should be a concern
for our city leaders unless the goal is more dams, diversions, and risk for future drought. They can’t afford the
water from the water district? Then that is a sign that we have reached a marker in our carrying capacity and we
should be doing some critical thinking about what exactly we want our future to look like.
I vote NO.
Thank you for your consideration in this very important and far reaching matter.
Nancy Morgan
Ft. Collins
970-215-5005
From: Leslie Knaup
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 6:47:13 AM
I agree with the January 14 editorial in the Fort Collins Coloradoan by Gary Wockner.
The city should not subsidize the water for Montava. Montava should get their water
from ELCO. But this brings up the larger issue of continued development without
infrastructure improvements. The city continues to approve these developments
before our roads are expanded to handle the traffic that is growing by leaps and
bounds. Left turn lanes are not adequate. We need road expansion and an
additional road that connects north Fort Collins to downtown and southbound roads.
I live in northeast Fort Collins and I feel trapped by 2 lane roads, increased traffic,
minimal traffic lights and the railroad. Montava should not be built until the city
resolves these issues. Leslie Knaup, 3333 Hearthfire Dr. Fort Collins 80524
From: Eleen Baumann
To: City Clerk Office
Subject: Re: Questions for City Council on Montava Development Proposal
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 5:57:03 AM
I don't really know how to submit written testimony for the Jan 14, 2020 meeting. Will
this do?
Eleen A Baumann, 2145 Bow Side Dr. Fort Collins, CO 80524, phone 970-472-2630
I have several questions. The proposed Montava development is located in the
Boxelder Sanitation District. I believe there is a proposal before the City Council to
allow Montava to buy water from the city and have the city provide sanitation services
as well.
Do ALL developers have the right to buy water from the City? It was my
understanding the developers had to bring water rights with them before building
could begin.
According to the Coloradoan, the Montava developer is getting a significant financial
windfall.
According to the Coloradan on December 25, the current plan for Montana is for the
developer pay $13.3 million to the City of Fort Collins to transfer 400 acre feet of
water credits to the East Larimer County Water District. At this rate, the developer
would be paying $33,250 per acre foot. At the current market rate for CBT water
rights of $47,640 per acre foot, the Montava developer would pay $19.056 million,
amounting to a $5.756 million windfall for the developer. According the the article in
the Coloradan, the current plan is for the City to provide Montana with sanitation
sewer service within the Boxelder Sanitation District. If there is resolution of
significant legal issues with this proposal, this scenario would save the developer
approximately $25 million in plant reinvestment fees.
Do other developers get reduced rates for water and sanitation sewer service? I
understand that the Montava Development is a large planned community but with the
reduced rates being offered, I believe that taxpayers will pay in other ways to
subsidize the reduced rates. Also, the water is being transferred from the City to
another legal entity.
I am in the Boxelder Sanitation district. If Montava utilizes Box Elder services, there
may be economies of scale - more units to bear the cost. As noted in the open letter
published in the Coloradoan on Jan 6, the sewer facilities of the City were not built
and paid for by city residents to serve Montava.
Also, with so many units projected the be built, would the City have to expand water
treatment facilities?
Would selling so much water to Montava significantly lower the amount of water the
City could make available to other developers?
I understand that this development is important, but I think the City should consider
the overall costs to taxpayers to lure the development to FC. An assessment needs
to be made regarding the actual costs of these subsidies including potential increases
in taxes to fund street development to handle the traffic that will result from so many
units being built.
I agree with the argument/comments in the opinion published today in the Coloradoan
Eleen A Baumann, 2145 Bow Side Dr. Fort Collins, CO 80524, phone 970-472-2630
From: Jim Pisula
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava Development Water
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 4:44:23 AM
Mayor and Council,
Just to be clear - I have no issue with the Montava development's being built; but if it is, the
water should come from the district in which it's located.
Instead of bellyaching to Council, let the developer work with ELCO to improve the
resources. Development must pay its own way.
Thank you,
---
Brenda and Jim Pisula
6255 Eagle Ridge Court
Fort Collins, Colo. 80525
(970) 420-1211
From: L S Townsend
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montana
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 4:33:08 AM
I do not always agree with Gary Wockner but he is correct on the Montana development. The cost of water and
sewer should be born by the developer not the existing rate payers.
ELCO water and Boxelder systems are in place and existing rate payers should not subsidize new development no
matter how admirable the design. Thank you for your service and listening to ratepayers.
Sincerely, Scott Townsend
ELCO customer
Sent from my iPad
From: Eric Sutherland
To: City Leaders
Subject: Article II section 5 of the City Charter: Powers
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:16:14 PM
Please consider this language from our Carter.
Article II Section 5. - Powers.
All powers of the city and the determination of all matters of policy shall be
vested in the Council except as otherwise provided by this Charter. Without
limitation of the foregoing, the Council shall have power to:
.....
(b)establish, change, consolidate or abolish administrative offices, service
areas or agencies by ordinance, upon report and recommendation of the
City Manager, so long as the administrative functions and public services
established by this Charter are not abolished in any such reorganization.
The city shall provide for all essential administrative functions and
public services, including, but not limited to the following:
....
(5)water supply and wastewater services;
I have always looked at this language and thought the city is just one lawsuit away
from having to provide water service outside of the service terriory of Fort Collins
Utilities' water department. This understanding is reinforced by every appellate court
decision I have ever read regarding Home Rule authority and water law. There are a
handful of cases specific to the provision of municipal water supplies that are on
point.
This is my principle concern with Fort Collins' consideration of a certain PUD
application, even though this consideration is probably not within the scope of criteria
for this quasi-judicial proceeding.
Max Moss does not know where he will get water for 4,000 homes. It would be
imprudent to think that he or his successors would not someday look to the City of
Fort Collins for domestic water service for Montava. The language in the
Development Agreement contemplated in Ordinance 015 is wholly insufficient.
Eric Sutherland
From: Kate Schulte
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava and FC City Water
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 8:47:16 PM
I sincerely hope that the city of Fort Collins will not offer the Montava development a water deal.
The development will already pose many challenges to Fort Collins should it be built from road
infrastructure to school crowding to pollution so there is absolutely no reason to help out the
development instead of looking out for the current residents of our great city. As people continue to
want to move here, developers will continue to want to build, but water is a precious resource that
we cannot give away freely. Furthermore, it is not fair for the current residents and tax payers to
help bring in this development, rather than the potential new residents and the developer. If the
town was struggling and we needed more people, it might be something to consider, but not as
things stand. PLEASE don’t sell out our city any more than is already being done. Please!
Kate Schulte
721 Peyton Dr
Fort Collins, CO 80525
From: schmaltz@bajabb.com
To: City Leaders
Subject: NO MONTAVA PLEASE
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 8:41:00 PM
Dear City Council Members,
Fort Collins is a great community. Please stop the Montava project. I’m not against development that has the
required infrastructure but developers will come to Ft. Collins because of the community.
Please provide the leadership to delay or decline this project until substantial infrastructure is built prior to
approval. 2 simple examples are the poor traffic conditions on North I-25 & Lemay Av.
I have lived in N. Fort Collins for 20 years and no infrastructure has every been completed on these 2 systems. If
you want the tax revenue, the developer will continue to try to be in Ft. Collins because their business model is
supported by the city of Fort Collins growth.
Please provide effective leadership and delay or stop the Montava project.
Dale Schmaltz
2319 Westview Road
Ft. Collins, CO 80524
From: Rachel Lee
To: Delynn Coldiron; Wade Troxell; Kristin Stephens; sgutowksy@fcgov.com; Julie Pignataro; Ken Summers; Ross
Cunniff; Emily Gorgol
Subject: The Impact of Montava on the Infrastructure and Traffic in Northeast Fort Collins
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 7:46:07 PM
Dear City Council Members:
I am writing to you regarding the Montava Development which you will be discussing on
January 14th. As you are aware this project has raised many issues and concerns in
northeast Fort Collins. When discussing this, I ask that you keep in mind the issues listed
below and please include this in the public record:
1. Adequate Public Facilities (APF). This section of the Land Use Code is there for a
reason. For too long residents of northeast Fort Collins have lived with only one East/West
road connection - Country Club Road. Additionally, the railroad crossings at Vine and
Timberline daily back up traffic in some instances almost a mile. Continued development
without additional infrastructure in place violates the intent and purpose of the Adequate
Public Facility code. The current policy of developers paying into a future solution gives no
timeline or assurances to the citizens of Northeast Fort Collins that the APF issues will be
resolved.
2. Unprecedented Favor From the Planning Department. The Fort Collins Planning
Department has aided the Montava Developer with water rights, sanitation service, support
for a Metro District, PUD approval, etc. This type of support is something that most
developers in Fort Collins never experience.
3. Developers Must Build and Pay for the Roads. The network of roads throughout Fort
Collins has been designed and paid for by developers. This has worked well for the City
during the busy years of the early 2000's. With the last large area of developable land
being in northeast Fort Collins, the City's philosophy of waiting for developers to pay for the
design and construction of roads has not served this area well. There are many dead end
roads and bike trails here due to leap frog development. Leapfrog development has not
created a cohesive infrastructure network. Lastly, it appears that Conifer Road may never
extend through to Timberline as the land through which it would extend was not purchased
by a developer but rather a homeowner who has turned the property into an estate. It may
be necessary for the City to be more proactive with northeast Fort Collins and design and
build the road network before the development occurs. The uncertainty of when the
remaining tracts of open land will develop is vague at best since building in Fort Collins has
only gotten more costly and prohibitive.
4. Country Club Road Design. Country Club Road was not designed to carry the current
amount of traffic and future vehicles from the Montava development. The geometry of
Country Club Road does not comply with any of the standards from the Larimer County
Urban Area Street Standards. The number of driveway accesses, lack of driveway
separation, reduced road curve radii, lack of sight distance, and diminished width and right-
of-way are all out of compliance with a road carrying this traffic volume (which is currently
Collector Status and projected to have arterial volumes with Montava). All of these factors
combine to create an overburdened and unsafe situation in addition to permanently spoiling
the former beauty and uniqueness of this area.
Please keep in mind the citizens of both Fort Collins and Larimer County when considering
the Montava Development and the need for infrastructure improvements before it
develops. Thank you for reading my thoughts and concerns. I respectfully request that my
letter be included in the official record about this critical issue and that it be made available
for consideration in any future proceedings and deliberations (legal or otherwise) about the
Montava project.
Sincerely,
Rachel Lee
From: isaac cline
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava development water begging
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 7:10:15 PM
Do not give the montava developers from Texas any special treatment. They should either be
able to pay for it themselves or not build anything.
From: David Beede
To: Delynn Coldiron
Subject: Fwd: proposed Montava PUD perspectives and concerns
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 6:00:50 PM
Attachments: Letter_FCC&LCC_DKB.pdf
Hello Delynn Coldiron,
I am forwarding to you the attached letter
about the Montava proposal that I sent to the
Mayor and other City Council members in
order to be sure that it is included in the packet
of public comments for City
Council consideration.
Thanks, David Beede
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: David Beede <cowtrout@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 10:58 AM
Subject: proposed Montava PUD perspectives and concerns
To: Wade Troxell <wtroxell@fcgov.com>
Cc: David Beede <beede@msu.edu>
January 11, 2020
To: City of Fort Collins Council Members and Larimer County Commissioners
Re: proposed Montava PUD perspectives and concerns
Dear Ladies and Gentlemen:
I write in reference to the proposed Montava PUD in northeast Fort Collins.
My comments are shared with both City Council members and County
Commissioners, and hopefully the corresponding support staffs because the
proposed development site is at the interface of city and county roads and services.
In my opinion, both government entities must work together to collaboratively
plan, finance, and develop this area and its functions for the best possible benefit of
all taxpayers and voters in this area.
Please find my complete letter attached.
Sincerely yours,
David K. Beede, PhD
1701 Rangeview Dr.
Fort Collins, CO 80524
cowtrout@gmail.com
From: Charles Kopp
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava PUD Master Plan
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 5:37:37 PM
Dear City Leaders----I strongly urge you to reject the monstrous Montava project, which I feel should
have been much more thoroughly studied before its come close to final approval I’m very
disappointed by the Planning Dept. and other staff approvals, which seems to indicate that they care
more about the interests of a Texas-based developer than the real long-term interests of our great
city. Let’s not forget that developers are profit-driven sales people---not altruistic, or socially and
environmentally-conscious by nature---and that this particular one has apparently “greenwashed” a
massive environmental insult with such promises as much of the development being “zero energy
ready,” and an “agri-community” with its own organic farm.----all to make the project more
saleable. And the planning people may have been duped by this front. I’m also disappointed in
Native Hill Farm---which I’ve supported---for being willing to make what I view as a deal with the
Devil to expand their operation----which I would whole-heartedly support elsewhere. Speaking of
that, imagine if the land in question----largely former farmland----was somehow able to revert to
that; only as a huge organic farm with regenerative agricultural practices, and not the measly 40
acres I heard Native Hill would be allotted by Montava. Wouldn’t that be much better for the
environmental and other well-being of our community---and the planet?--- since regenerative
agriculture sequesters carbon in addition to all its other benefits. Instead of the city investing in
Montava, which is bound to have long-term costs to the public, how about considering investing in
something like the agricultural alternative I mentioned for the land at issue? Here’s another
opportunity to make Fort Collins stand out, and not be just another growth-crazy community that
enables developers.
I’ll remind you that FC is already the fourth largest city in Colorado; and although much of the
growth has had very positive results in transforming the former relatively small town into a world-
class community, I believe we’re at a point now where it’s time to reign in more on the growth, and
try to stabilize our population more. More of a good thing does not always make it better. And in
this case I believe the projected growth---especially if it includes a monster like Montava---will make
things worse, including our quality of life here. We must question the wisdom of thinking we have
to build till “buildout.” And revise planning committed to this dubious goal.
At the very least, please put Montava on a long hold for a lot more consideration and public input
before it gets the seal of final approval. If this isn’t done, I’m afraid the present city leadership will
leave a very negative legacy.
Sincerely,
Charles Kopp
Fort Collins
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From: Tauny Gilmore
To: Delynn Coldiron
Subject: FW: Montava First Reading
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 5:24:57 PM
Attachments: image001.png
Tauny Gilmore
Administrative Assistant in the City Manager’s Office
970-416-4312
tagilmore@fcgov.com
From: Todd Parker <tparker@waypointre.com>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 4:33 PM
To: Wade Troxell <WTroxell@fcgov.com>; Kristin Stephens <kstephens@fcgov.com>; Susan
Gutowsky <sgutowsky@fcgov.com>; Julie Pignataro <jpignataro@fcgov.com>; Ken Summers
<ksummers@fcgov.com>; Ross Cunniff <rcunniff@fcgov.com>; Emily Gorgol <egorgol@fcgov.com>
Cc: Darin Atteberry <DATTEBERRY@fcgov.com>
Subject: Montava First Reading
Good afternoon Mayor Troxell and Council Members,
I am reaching out to you via email in support of the Montava Development as the rescheduling of
the reading conflicts with my schedule and I cannot be there tomorrow night to voice my support for
the project.
I am not affiliated with this project, but have been involved in the Fort Collins building and
development community for the past 23 years. I am a citizen of Fort Collins and have sat on the
City’s advisory committees for code review, development process improvements and climate action
initiatives. I believe in Fort Collins’ as a community that cares about smart growth, being able to
accommodate the influx of people we have moving to our city every month while balancing the
impact on the environment and city resources. Because of the careful planning that the Montava
team has put into this development I believe that Montava is the ideal master-planned development
that the City should stand behind.
The project balances the City’s goal for increased density while maintaining open spaces and
green belts for public use.
The Climate Action Plan (Climate Future) has set high goals to become carbon neutral and the
Zero Energy ready homes planned in this community helps push that initiative.
The community based commerce and urban agriculture not only plays to a reduced carbon
footprint but it is in alignment with what the community wants from their local
neighborhood.
These are just a few of the reasons I support this project. You know the development so I won’t go
into the detail of why this project is different than just about all others in Fort Collins.
And I want to applaud the City Manager’s office for working outside the box to try and help this
development solve the water issues that exist for this project. Without public-private partnerships
working with the utility providers it will be hard, if not impossible, for the City to improve the existing
building inventory, steer new development in the right direction and upgrade infrastructure and
transportation needs for all of its’ citizens.
We are a growing community and that will not stop in the near term so please consider supporting
this development as it will help the City set the bar as the right type of communities we want.
Thank you for your time,
Todd Parker
120 W Olive, Ste 220 | Fort Collins, CO 80524
970.231.0746 (m) 970.632.5050 (o) | tparker@waypointre.com
From: Tauny Gilmore
To: Delynn Coldiron
Subject: FW: Input for Montava Proposal; Tues, January 18
Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 5:23:44 PM
Tauny Gilmore
Administrative Assistant in the City Manager’s Office
970-416-4312
tagilmore@fcgov.com
From: trudyh1@comcast.net <trudyh1@comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 5:23 PM
To: Wade Troxell <WTroxell@fcgov.com>; Ross Cunniff <rcunniff@fcgov.com>; Emily Gorgol
<egorgol@fcgov.com>; Ken Summers <ksummers@fcgov.com>; Julie Pignataro
<jpignataro@fcgov.com>; Susan Gutowsky <sgutowsky@fcgov.com>; Kristin Stephens
<kstephens@fcgov.com>
Cc: Cameron Gloss <cgloss@fcgov.com>; Darin Atteberry <DATTEBERRY@fcgov.com>
Subject: Input for Montava Proposal; Tues, January 18
Re: Montava Proposal--Tuesday, January 18
Dear City Council,
Thank you for all the work that you do and your dedication to our City. I am writing to express my
and my neighbors extreme concerns about the Montava project. One of the biggest concerns of Ft.
Collins’ residents is growth—and the need for growth to pay its own way. This project as proposed
will certainly add to the growth which we all hate and make the FC taxpayers subsidize it. This whole
project is extremely unpopular with FC residents except for the few people who will make money.
Metro District abuse is occurring in our State—are there safeguards to protect people from having
to pay exorbitant property taxes later? And for those who think that this will make our town more
affordable—please know that you cannot grow your way to affordability. If that were the case, LA
County would be the most affordable in the country. In fact, it makes living here more expensive for
the people who currently live here—those that you represent. Growing your way to affordability
doesn’t work—it’s like adding a lane to the interstate—traffic congestion is reduced for a nano-
second and then just fills up.
The City’s Land Conservation and Stewardship Board, of which I was a member for 8 years,
suggested we buy the property for open space for agriculture, local community gardens, and
renewable energy options. I said at the time, buying the property would cost the taxpayers less than
all the infrastructure, schools, additional services, etc., and make our community more sustainable. I
wish I was not proven right. Please simply reject this plan and all the horrific growth subsidies. It’s
not City’s job to make non-viable projects viable or to make developers rich on the backs of
taxpayers. Thank you, Trudy
Trudy Haines
625 Hinsdale Drive
Fort Collins, CO 80526
970-218-6010
Trudyh1@comcast.net
From: Virginia Mohr-Callahan
To: City Leaders
Subject: Proposed Montava Subdivision
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 9:39:31 AM
1-14-2020
Dear City Leaders:
Please enter this letter into the formal record of the January 14, 2020 City Council Meeting re:
Montava.
We are Virginia Mohr-Callahan and Gerald Callahan. We live at 1740 Nedrah Drive, Fort Collins. We
have lived in/paid taxes in northeast Fort Collins for nearly 36 years, and nearly 11 years at our
current address. The only way into and out of our Nedrah Acres subdivision is via Country Club Road
– already clotted with its current burden of daily traffic and illegal truck traffic. During
morning/evening rush periods, it is nearly impossible to turn west onto Country Club, because the
traffic is so thick. Add to that the heavy traffic on North Lemay, as well as Timberline Road at
Mountain Vista, and it is clear traveling in this part of the city is already challenging. None of these
roads is equipped to handle the influx of traffic that the proposed Montava development’s own
predictions say will result from this subdivision.
We are perplexed as to why the City of Fort Collins would even remotely consider approving the
Montava subdivision with so many unresolved infrastructure issues. Why would the City put profits
over people and give the green light to a developer who is unwilling to adequately finance the
necessary infrastructure for this subdivision just so this company can make millions? Why would the
City put the profit-making desires of a developer over the safety needs of thousands of tax-paying
citizens who already own their homes?
Montava cannot be allowed to move forward until myriad infrastructure concerns are not just
promised to be resolved but are already in place. Montava stands to make many millions and
millions (for years to come) on this endeavor. Don’t put the profits of a few over the safety/quality of
life of thousands of people.
Sincerely,
Virginia Mohr-Callahan and Gerald N. Callahan
1740 Nedrah Drive
Fort Collins, CO 80524
970 222-4876
From: Donna Sprague
To: Susan Gutowsky; City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 9:40:05 AM
I appreciate the concept of Montava, but I have serious concerns about all the subsidizing
being requested.
Didn't their planning take into consideration that their location is in the Boxelder Sewer
District and ELCO Water District? Why shouldn't they be using those entities for their
services? (apart from reducing their costs and thereby lining their own pockets!)
Larimer County is dealing with traffic problems and roads stressed by current local needs in
that area, let alone access into Fort Collins.
Montava needs to directly invest in more of the infrastructure needed to build their mini-city,
rather than look for financing and perks from current taxpayers.
Donna Sprague
From: JOHN DIXON
To: City Leaders
Subject: 4,000 Homes Montana Development - Water Subsidy
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 9:36:52 AM
Dear City Council Members:
I firmly oppose the City of Fort Collins subsidizing water for the Montava development
near the Anhuese- Busch brewery.
Such a subsidy comes at a cost to the citizens of Fort Collins.
ANY developer should pay its own way. A lack of water for further development is the
developer’s problem, not our problem.
Water on the Front Range is a finite constraint on any new development. We already
are approaching our limit on development.
Only the developer will benefit from a water subsidy. The citizens of Fort Collins will
see NO benefit, only the costs of irresponsible development on our resources, our
infrastructure, and our pocket books.
Do the right thing! Stand up and protect the interests of the citizens of Fort Collins,
not the narrow interests of a developer!
Respectfully,
John S. Dixon
1704 Brookhaven Circle West
Fort Collins 80525
Ph. (970) 980-3248
From: Nancy Foxley
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 9:33:30 AM
I'm writing to urge to you not to subsidize the Montava development's water needs.
I can't think of any reason you would even think of doing this. Ask anybody who's
lived in Fort Collins for any length of time, and they will tell you the biggest
problem we have is growth!
There is absolutely no reason our city government should be subsidizing another
giant development outside city limits! You know, of course, that water is THE
finite resource in Northern Colorado. The citizens of Fort Collins are the ones who
are going to ultimately foot the bill for the increased demand for water.
Have you lost your minds?
Sincerely,
Nancy Foxley
3186 Worthington, Ave. Fort Collins
From: D Lafayette
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 9:16:07 AM
To Whom it May Concern,
I am very concerned about the negative consequences of the Montava development. I have lived close to Tavelli
Elementary for over twenty five years and the increase in traffic has overwhelmed the roads in the area. Country
Club Road is not capable of handling the traffic it already sees, let alone the increase Montava would bring. The
infrastructure of the area needs to be addressed before such growth is implemented.
Please put this development on hold until the roads in the area are upgraded and can handle the population increase.
I also do not want to subsidize water for the Montava developer.
Respectfully,
Deborah Lafayette
1129 Hillside Court
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From: JOHN
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 9:47:03 AM
My husband. who is 80 and ,I at 76, cannot make the meeting tonight, but I wish to greatly express
our objection to the Montava project. Firstly , this area cannot possibly sustain all the extra traffic on
these antiquated roads. Have you consistently had to sit at Timberline and Vine for 20 to 30 minutes
while the trains go back and forth, stressing because you’re going to be late for appts? Think of
emergency vehicles getting to All these people while waiting for a train to pass. The traffic issue was
enough of a problem and then along comes the water and sewer issues. We have had all our utilities
raised significantly and our income has not reflected those increases. We are in a hole now and the
city doesn’t seem to give a damn.
I clearly remember when building the first Walmart here was a huge issue and city council rejected
the project. They had to get petitions to get it built. I have nothing against Walmart, but what
happened to that Fort Collins that worked for the betterment of our city?
This whole thing doesn’t smell right to us. I’m sick of out of state people coming in here and ruining
our beautiful city just to make money.
How about you guys stand up for all of us who live and love it here and let’s not let this monstrosity
destroy North East Fort Collins before all problems have been addressed and resolved .
Thank you
Suzanne and John Buccheri
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From: Maren Reichert
To: City Leaders
Subject: No to Montava
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 9:57:23 AM
Hello City Leaders,
I am writing to ask you to not approve the Montava project without first addressing your citizen’s concerns. I am a
4th generation resident of North Fort Collins and remember the city telling us when I was little that Lemay would be
widened and fixed in a “few years.” That was in the 80’s. Now growth has reached a boiling point and the city is
still stalling on fixing the dangerous intersection. I am guessing none of you have to commute through that
intersection, it is a nightmare.
I bought a home in Maple Hill knowing the surrounding area would be built out one day, and welcome the growth.
But we need basic infrastructure first. The cell tower that was compromised on still brings NO signal to our home.
I can not text or call 911 if the power is out.
And Montava, when built, needs to use ELCO water. Our water costs are out of control on the north end and it
would actually hurt us if we didn’t have a larger pool to share the burden.
Thank you for listening to my concerns as well has my friends and neighbors.
Maren Reichert
Sent from my iPhone
From: Alan Burke
To: City Leaders
Subject: Water to Montavia
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 10:22:52 AM
Please do not sell water to this development at a reduced rate! We do not need more incentives that are grossly
unfair to the current citizens. Anyone who votes for this will have that on their voting record and will answer to the
voters in the next election.
Sent from my iPhone
From: Doug Barker
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava PUD - Opposition to Approval
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 10:19:59 AM
Good Morning,
I am a citizen of Fort Collins and I would like to voice my opposition to the Montava project
in terms of water and wastewater issues. I believe that the citizens of Fort Collins should not
be forced to subsidize development that is outside our service area. Also, the Montava PUD
plans should not be approved until infrastructure plan details are in place. The developer
should work with ELCO and Boxelder Sanitation and not expect Fort Collins citizens to help
pay for the development.
Thank you,
Doug Barker
Dakota Ridge Subdivision, Fort Collins
From: Keela Beavers
To: City Leaders
Subject: MONTAVA
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 10:16:16 AM
Dear Members of the City Council,
I am writing this letter to discuss my concerns regarding the Montava
Development. I reside in this area and the traffic here is currently quite
congested. In looking at the Montava plans, this would not improve.
I am very discouraged by the city council and it's members. You do not
listen to your citizens. I haven't heard of any citizens arguing to proceed
with Montava. No one is out there saying, "Hell yeah, let's build this, let's
increase congestion, eliminate open spaces, increase pollution, take water
rights etc...". The people who live in Ft. Collins enjoy the few open spaces
that are left. We are people who enjoy outdoor activities. You continue to
make decisions that are not in our best interests such as the Hughes
Stadium redevelopment plan. You continue to add developments and do not
address the traffic or infrastructure issues as you go. This is poor planning
and greatly increases safety risks.
I encourage you to listen to the people for a change. This development is
too big. It does not align with the values of your citizens with whom you
represent.
Thank you,
Keela Beavers
2025 Sherrell Drive
Fort Collins, CO 80524
p.s. The plan does not even address our road, which runs between Country
Club and Turnberry.
From: ruth fleming
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 10:09:20 AM
I am against providing any housing developer with cheaper water. Providing water for their
homebuyers is the developer's responsibility not the city's. Developer's must realize that this
is a semi-arid desert and cannot sustain unlimited growth.
I have not seen that Montava has approached Budweiser for any assistance in this regard. I
understand that Budweiser has water rights and may be able to help. If Budweiser is not using
all the water they have a right to use they should form an agreement with Montava. Let's not
make a rod with which to beat our own backs.
Mrs R Fleming
From: Donna Sprague
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 10:32:57 AM
Since this is to be a functionally self-contained community,
1. what employment opportunities will be available for the residents?
2. are there any commitments for "affordable shopping" for the "affordable housing"
residents?
3. are there any commitments from health care services to operate facilities within the
community?
4. how soon would schools be located within the community, limiting busing to other PSD
facilities, during what growth timeline?
Philosophically, this compares to old-fashioned small-town living. Hopefully there'll be
enough bars and churches and recreational offerings, as well as the items noted above, to keep
the residents satisfied within their boundaries.
Unfortunately, the nature of today's populace is to travel out of that small town into nearby
cities for both employment and entertainment.
How will these predilections be overcome, in order to accomplish the intended result of a self-
contained community?
Donna Sprague
From: jim comiskey
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava water issue
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 10:48:57 AM
Do not place the cost of supplying water to a developer on current residents. We do not live
here to give handouts to developers. Be responsible and represent current residents not for
profit developers who try to take advantage of us. Growth is inevitable but it is your job to
manage it wisely.
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Sara Gonzales
From: Sarah Kane
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:16 AM
To: Sara Gonzales; Delynn Coldiron
Subject: Fwd: Montava Development and Abbreviated Comments
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Curt at CurtMc.com" <Curt@curtmc.com>
Date: January 14, 2020 at 11:11:03 AM MST
To: City Leaders <CityLeaders@fcgov.com>
Cc: Wade Troxell <WTroxell@fcgov.com>, Kristin Stephens <kstephens@fcgov.com>, Susan Gutowsky
<sgutowsky@fcgov.com>, Julie Pignataro <jpignataro@fcgov.com>, Ken Summers
<ksummers@fcgov.com>, Ross Cunniff <rcunniff@fcgov.com>, Emily Gorgol <egorgol@fcgov.com>,
Sarah Kane <SKane@fcgov.com>
Subject: Montava Development and Abbreviated Comments
City Council of Fort Collins:
Thanks for the opportunity to provide my comments. My family lives in the City and a block
from Highway 1 and Country Club Road. I purchased my house in 2019 moved my business
here. I have read much on the proposed Montava Development. Previously, I oversaw
municipalities in this six-state region for the Federal government. I now have a wastewater
consulting business that provides support only to municipalities.
I love development if it is smart development. I am against this development until the developer
can fund its own water and wastewater costs without subsidy, including upgrading roads and
other needed infrastructure. Gone are the days when development along the Front Range had to
be competitive or a municipality would see adverse impacts. Fort Collins is not hurting for
development. Approval of this Montava project does not focus on the needs of City
ratepayers. I am more than a little perplexed at the focus on staff and management on figuring
out how to make it possible to subsidize this development rather than asking “Should we?”. The
Jurassic Park conundrum. I have seen this limited focus especially in communities in states
where development is really needed (I was auditing the City of Worland, WY when the only
McDonalds opened… it was attended by many people in this small community).
Are these developers ethical or are they structuring their projects to cost residents of these
developments a lot of money in the long term? On December 8, 2019 and December 15, 2019,
the Denver Post published articles on the lack of ethics of some Metro Districts. These articles
are a must read. Your staff can read and educate themselves on this developer and what they
have planned. If you believe that we have no responsibility as to the ethics of who we deal with,
only sell ratepayers resources and ignore needed infrastructure refinements prior to any
development, then I imagine this email is going into the trash!
If you read this email, thank you up front.
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Curtis McCormick
2103 Falcon Hill Road
Fort Collins, CO
Curt@CurtMc.com
From: jacko@frii.com
To: City Leaders
Subject: Montava and Metropolitan Districts
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 10:59:18 AM
Dear Council Members,
Prior to approving this development, in part or in its entirety:...
1. Please address the issues of water for this development - where it
will come from, how that will affect existing infrastructures and supplies
2. Please address the sewage issues raised by the Boxelder Sanitation
District by engaging Directly with BSD
3. Please address the potential conflicts inherent in how Metropolitan
Districts can be mis-used... i.e. benefits to developers and their partners
being directly the causes of financial problems for homeowners within the
development.
Postponement of approval until these issues are resolved will be
absolutely appropriate.
There are too many misunderstood concepts being tossed around concerning
this huge development.
The Opinion Statement in the Coloradoan this morning from Max Moss, the
developer, did NOT truly clarify the questions related to the three issues
listed above. Mr. Moss only asked people concerned to trust and believe
him that he only wants to do good, and to find out more at tonights Council
meeting which I am sure he knows that most people will be unable to attend.
Thank you,
Jack Armstrong
Fort Collins
From: JACQUIE VAUX
To: City Leaders
Subject: Our city water
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:38:53 AM
Dear city leaders,
Please vote NO on the water proposal for the huge water project in North east Fort Collins by the
Budwiser plant.
We do not want to subsidize our water to an unrelated community. This is a huge mistake. Do not
do it!
We already pay enough for our water, which is in short supply.
This community should not even be built if it does not have an affordable supply of water.
The developer screwed up, by not figuring this out, before he planned this stupid gigantic
development.
Our community does not need this development. It will lead to more traffic congestion, more air
pollution, more crowded schools.
Be community leaders. We need you to lead on this one. Vote NO on giving this developer our
water!!!!!
Best regards,
Jacquie Vaux
From: John Foster
To: City Leaders; opinion@coloradoan.com
Subject: Montava Development - Commentary
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:35:16 AM
From where I stand, the biggest (but not the only) priority and issue to all of us in Fort Collins for
the Montava development proposal is the water and sewage subsidies! Recently the developer
provided his personal rebuttal/response in the Coloradoan which was weak and full of superficial
prompts of goodwill toward the city with no substance as to the actual/financial upsides or impact
mitigation to their development plans. We cannot let this, or any other developer come in with the
expectation that our precious resources can continue to be drawn down without any impact on all
involved. This is a cultural crisis of trying to expand and grow bigger, make more profits without
understanding how to live within our means and available resources. If the developer is only now
recognizing/understanding that their plans are flawed (utilities are too expensive) then what else
might they have overlooked that they can't "afford" to fix or build-out?
--
Best,
John Foster
c- 720-308-4032
From: info@inkpopstudio.com
To: City Leaders
Subject: No on subsidized water for Montava
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 11:15:26 AM
Dear Fort Collins leaders:
I would like to add my support to the position stated by Gary Wockner in the excellent guest
opinion in the Coloradoan: growth must pay its own way and bring benefits to our citizens.
If the out-of-state developers of the proposed Montava neighborhood do not have a
financially viable plan for the water needs of the new homes they are proposing, they
should not expect a subsidy from current rate-payers.
I support the idea that the infrastructure questions - roads, water, utilities - need to be
answered before any further steps.
Thank you,
Steve Sedam
Resident