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MINUTES
CITY OF FORT COLLINS
FUTURES COMMITTEE MEETING
Date: July 8, 2019
Location: CIC Room, City Hall, 300 Laporte Ave.
Time: 4:00–6:00pm
Committee Members Present:
Mayor Wade Troxell
Julie Pignataro
City Staff:
Darin Atteberry, City Manager
Jeff Mihelich, Deputy City Manager
Jackie Kozak-Thiel, (Staff Liaison)
Presenters:
Becky Karasko, Transportation Planning Director, North Front Range Metropolitan Planning
Organization
Randy Grauberger, Project Director Southwest Chief and Front Range Passenger Rail
Commission
Dr. R. Paul Williamson, CEO Sustainable Systems Colorado
Additional Staff Present:
Drew Brooks, Transfort
Kaley Zeisel, Transfort
Carter Hill, City Manager’s Office
Kelly DiMartino, Sr. Assistant City Manager
Joe Olson, Traffic
Tyler Marr, City Manager’s Office
Molly Saylor, Environmental Services
Rhonda Gatzke, Utilities
Teresa Roche, Human Resources
Jayla Hodge, City Manager’s Office
Community Members:
Will Jones, City of Greeley
Dale Adamy, RIST.org
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Aaron Fodge, CSU
Nathalie Rachline, Transportation board
Mark Jackson, City of Loveland
Kevin Jones, Fort Collins Chamber
Bob Briggs, Rocky Mountain Rail
Mark Peterson, Larimer County Engineering
Meeting called to order at 4:03pm
Approval of Minutes:
Julie moved to approve May minutes. Emily seconded. Motion passed unanimously. 3-0-0.
Chairman Comments: None
Summary
• Panel discussion is continued conversation of other Futures committee topics and trends
that are being seen.
o Need to think about how population growth will drive the Future
• Current infrastructure is not meeting our needs and conversations about transportation
need to consider mobility and integrate systems thinking
o Consider how to move beyond corridor thinking
• We are in an era with many changes in Technology, behavior and preference changes
o There are intergenerational differences with mobility preferences that drives
change
• Right of Way is important when thinking about how to transport freight cargo and people
• Burden falls on local government to consider what they want the future of transportation
to be and there continues to be a need to think and act regionally
o How does Fort Collins compliment national and regional approaches?
• Hypothesis that Advanced Transportation Innovation fosters improved quality of life
• This will continue to be an ongoing dialogue:
• Next steps include continued involvement with NFRMPO and continue to engage
relevant partners.
o Council member Kristin Stephens is the City’s liaison to the NFRMPO
Think Tank Item 4-2019: The Future of Regional Transportation
Becky Karasko, Transportation Planning Director, North Front Range Metropolitan
Planning Organization
• Introduction to what the North Front Range Metropolitan Planning Organization
(NFRMPO) is and its responsibilities:
o It is a transportation and Air Quality planning organization within the Urbanized
area that includes Fort Collins, Berthoud and Timnath
o NFRMPO is funded through a variety of sources including federal, state and local
funds.
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o NFRMPO has a 17-member planning council comprised of
representatives from local governments
▪ Council member Stephens is the representative for Fort Collins
o There is also a 15-member technical advisory committee
• Responsibilities of the NFRMPO include:
o Transportation planning, Air Quality planning and coordination
o Prepare plans and reports; some required, some that are best practices
o Operate a Vanpool program
▪ 50 vanpool in operation
• Overview of landscape of the NFRMPO in 2015:
o There were 483,00 residents and 284,000 jobs
o 50 million vehicle miles traveled annually
o 4 million transit trips and 3 million users on regional non-motorized corridors
• Growth from 2010-2017 has been significant in smaller communities
• Looking to the NFRMPO in 2045:
o Population is projected to be 883,000 residents, an 82% increase
o 473,000 jobs
o Question of what the impact will be on transportation needs with increase of
people and jobs
• What can Fort Collins do specifically:
o NFRMPO is calling for projects that can move the region toward achieving
performance measures targets
o 6 performance measures—first five are federally required
▪ Safety
▪ Pavement condition
▪ Bridge condition
▪ Reliability
▪ Air quality
▪ NFRMPO-Specific targets—what is important to our region
o When submitting projects, provide the dream list, NFRMPO will then determine
what can be funded and what the needs of the region are
Randy Grauberger, Project Director Southwest Chief and Front Range Passenger Rail
Commission
• Provides brief history of the evolution of the Commission, and its governing:
o Colorado Legislatures Senate Bill 17—153 effective July 2017
o Housed under CDOT but pay attention to 11 voting commissioners
▪ Five appointed by governor
▪ 3 non-voting members
• The purposes of the Commission include:
o Ensure that Amtrak SW Chief service continues
o Collaborate and work with other states
o Explore development of Front Range Passenger Rail corridor
• Development of passenger rail continues to be of interest:
o Significant highway congestion, and continued population growth population
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o Growing population over 65 and trends that younger
people who prefer reliable transit over owning a car
o The Front Range could lose its ability to be economically competitive as most
cities/regions this size have passenger rail service or are planning to have one
• Provides overview of transportation options and costs associated with them for Front
Range Corridor which include expanding Bustang services, an extension of the commuter
rail with RTD services and a high-speed rail service option.
• Discussion of the creation of Mobility hubs in Loveland and along the Front Range which
buses now stop at. These Mobility hubs also service as a precursor investment for
eventual passenger rail stops.
• Overview of 2018 accomplishments including funding sources and staffing timeline
• Current Commission Activities overview
o Includes working with other states
o Communication sub-committee created
o CDOT Metro Quest Survey—weigh in let opinions be known
• Overview of the elements required for a rail passenger service development plan
o Develop purpose and need
o Stakeholder engagement
o Look at feasible alignments
o Know where the different mobility hubs will be
o Cost-Benefit-Analysis
o Potential service operator
o What does governance look like—November 2020 could be on the ballot
o be known
• Overview of the principles for rail mobility
o Need to preserve Rights of Way corridor
o To justify new Front Range Passenger Rail the selected outcome should have
▪ Competitive peak hour travel times
▪ Volume of riders large enough that a stream of 50 passenger buses isn’t
enough
▪ Conditions which prevent expansion of bus service in a managed lane
from being an effective solution.
▪ Connectivity to transit is critical to success
▪ Need options different from driving and parking options
Paul Williamson
• Hypothesis: Advanced Transportation Innovation fosters improved quality of life
• Elements of innovation
o Dissatisfaction with SQ
o Open mindedness and caring
o Knowledge of all variables
o Leadership versus followership
o Sustainable plan—because of energy crisis
o Community interaction
o New term implementation
▪ See massive studies and spending on transportation with nothing
happening
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• Overview of Sustainable Plan they are pursuing:
o Operational model—need public, private and non-profit cooperation
o Community based—in all transportation
▪ Safety, connectivity and economic development
▪ IGA
▪ Community Opportunity Centers
o Cost model—what are we going to do and what does it cost
▪ Non-tax model
▪ Video on Sky Tran—1/10 the cost of any other transportation system
▪ Idea is to use a revenue bond and work with private investors to pay for
this transportation system
o Using advanced technology sustainability means improving health, environment,
impact and scalability.
▪ Consider how Skytran could be deployed using the existing Rights of Way
where possible
▪ Up to date standards with sustainable energy
▪ Skytran video can be found here: https://www.skytran.com/
Comments/ Q&A:
• Discussion around the feasibility of either a passenger rail system or skytran system :
o Randy discusses that it is not a matter of feasibility for the passenger rail system,
the question is what decisions are made; i.e. will people vote for it and be willing
to pay for it.
o Right of Way continues to be very important in both the discussion of passenger
rail and Skytran technology.
• Question about what community engagement has been like in promoting the Skytran and
if there has been concern about obstructing views:
o Paul mentions that there has been some concern about obstructing views, but like
anything else, people get adjusted to what is around them (i.e. the train going
through Fort Collins)
o Paul reiterates that the overwhelming benefits of Skytran tends to override
objections to visual impact
• Question raised about current legislation that could affect ability to move forward with
Skytran and if there has been any pushback from Oil and Gas industry or car industry on
the future of transportation:
o Skytran technology is so new that there is no legislation currently that could
hinder it and RTD has been very supportive
o Passenger rail and Skytran are viewed as complimentary projects and there
hoping for a continued collaborative and cooperative relationship
• Discussion around the importance of using existing Right of Way for transportation
needs.
• When developing Skytran, discussion on if there will be a demonstration project soon to
illustrate proof of concept.
o There is need for funding as demonstration projects are being developed
o Importance of local community interest since there is little involvement or interest
at the state and federal levels of government
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o Discussion about how the technology has matured;
questions of viability and scaleability to meet different community needs.
• Community member comments on the importance of connection to other communities
and the importance of keeping our region mobile if we are trying to ensure that jobs,
people employers, etc., are in the Fort Collins community.
o Be cognizant of transit in our community and keeping people mobile.
• Discussion on mobility index. Becky notes that performance measures used by NFRMPO
can be used to start a mobility index.
• Question on what it means to preserve Right of Way
o Randy clarifies that while exploring transportation options, they are not looking at
greenfield. Rather, they are looking at alignment with existing freight railways
and Right of Way.
o Goal is to take advantage of existing development and Right of Way.
o Bob Briggs mentions that Right of Way is a critical issue for everything There is a
need for Right of Way to be separate from the road system.
• Conversations happening at the NFRMPO include looking at membership of different
communities across the region, discussion about aligning transportation goals and
aligning Right of Way. There is also need for a feasibility study when exploring future
options
5:30-5:45 Futures topics and Welcoming New Committee Members
Mayor Wade Troxell
• Welcome the new committee members, provided an overview of potential Futures topics
Additional Discussion: None
Meeting adjourned by Wade Troxell at 5:38 pm.