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MINUTES
CITY OF FORT COLLINS
FUTURES COMMITTEE MEETING
Date: February 11, 2019
Location: CIC Room, City Hall, 300 Laporte Ave.
Time: 4:00–6:00pm
Committee Members Present:
Mayor Wade Troxell
Kristin Stephens
Ray Martinez
City Staff:
Darin Atteberry, City Manager
Jeff Mihelich, Deputy City Manager
Jackie Kozak-Thiel, (Staff Liaison)
Presenters:
David Eaves
Additional Staff Present:
Tim Campbell, Open Data/IT
Dean Klingner, PDT
Katie Ricketts, Finance,
Victoria Shaw, Sustainability
Tyler Marr, City Manager’s Office
Colman Keane, Fort Collins Connection
Kelly DiMartino, City Manager’s Office
Teresa Roche, Human Resources
Nina Bodenhamere, City Give
Dan Coldiron, IT
Community Members:
Kevin Jones, Fort Collins Chamber of Commerce
Nathalie Rachline, Transporation Board
Meeting called to order at 4:06 pm
Approval of Minutes:
Kristen moved to approve September minutes. Mayor Troxell seconded. Motion passed
unanimously. 2-0-1.
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Chairman Comments: None
Think Tank Item 2-2019: Polarities in data and smart cities: connectivity and privacy, big
data and security
Jackie introduces David Eaves and the context of the Futures committee
David worked as an advisor for the office of the Mayor of Vancouver, led open data in Canada
and the world. David is considered one of the 100 most influential people in digital government
and was the first director for code for America.
David Eaves, Harvard Kennedy School
• David asks us to think about some of the bigger challenges around Smart Cities and data
management
o As managers, the power for change comes from the types of questions that are
asked in meetings—consider what types of questions we should be asking.
• Point number 1: Good Questions and good data
o Using San Diego’s installation of LED streetlights with sensors as an example,
highlights that even though data may be being collected, it is important to
understand what questions are being asked and how those questions will help to
solve the right problem.
o Managers need to question how resources can be allocated to projects that
actually matter
o Goal should not be to collect data for data’s sake
▪ Ask the right questions and use data to support
• Point number 2: Good Politics over more data
o Cities are facing big challenges such as climate change and the opioid crisis that
threaten the viability and resiliency of their communities
o There can be a tendency to use data as a distraction from the hard work that needs
to be accomplished to address these wicked problems
▪ Work includes building partnerships and coalitions to solve problems. we
build partnerships and build coalitions to solve these hard problems
• Point number 3: Values over data
o With the emergence of Smart Cities, it is easy to get excited about the possibilities
without thinking about the type of city leaders want to build
▪ Consider how to be inclusive
▪ Using Sidewalk Labs Toronto as an example, lessons learned include
being clear on who owns data, how it is managed, who has access and how
it is used
o Consider the tensions that arise with data:
▪ How does data collection run contrary to creating a safe and welcoming
city?
▪ What are the privacy issues with data collection?
o There is a need to consider larger governance questions
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• Point number 4: What are best practices
o Begin with asking questions: “who are we serving” and “how are we engaging
them” and “do we really know them”?
o Once these questions are asked, city officials can begin:
▪ Exploring what tools are needed to meet those needs;
▪ Examine how operations support these tools;
▪ Explore policy options to support infrastructure
o Beginning with policy rather than understanding who we are trying to serve can
result in programs that are not user friendly and don’t accomplish goals
▪ Build the service with the person at the center (i.e. who are we serving)
▪ Think about how to design for that user
• Do you understand how users engage?
• Have you used service yourself?
▪ Learn and Iterate: Test hypothesis in cheapest way possible, learn from
testing
o Smart cities are not built because of grand vision:
▪ incremental ways to scale them up
▪ scale expectations, beliefs and values—don’t impose them on others
o Make sure that you own the data
Comments/Q&A:
• Systems thinking is very very present in this discussion—think about interplay between
things.
o The discussion also highlights Design thinking: putting user at center of what you
are designing
• We should also be considering Rapid prototyping: observe and see what useful
application is.
• What are the important thoughts about integration of different services or other things?
o Davide mentions that systems thinking is extremely important, but we still need to
consider how it affects other things such as sense of privacy or safety concerns.
o Owning the data is very important:
▪ As city officials when we are buying data management tools, it is
important to ask the vendor if we own the data
▪ Don’t rely on a single vendor: diversify vendors and see how well they
cooperate
• Looking at the example of Scooters and UABs, these are data sources where the question
becomes, even if we have access to the data, do cities have resources or time to analyze
it?
• Looking at drones, there continues to be important questions about privacy and where to
draw the line.
• Question from staff member on how do we walk the line between the right questions and
once we have the data, seeing correlations with problems?
o Part of this is about what we choose to collect
o David suggests collecting data that the City needs for operational purposes
o Making data open drops prototyping costs, which benefits city staff the most
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• There is skepticism of cities collecting data in big ways, are there
cities that get it right?
o Barcelona
o Chicago created sensors on light posts and had huge community outreach
program to figure out how it made sense and where most community value would
be
▪ i.e. video on sensors—made people uncomfortable—so they degraded
camera quality to collect data they needed (water on streets) but couldn’t
identify people
Future Topics: What would the committee like to see discussed in 2019?
Mayor Wade Troxell and Jackie Kozak-Thiel
• Our June Futures meeting will be with Andres Duany on community architecture.
• Discussion about regionalism and how to shape it
o Something that can stimulate conversation around collaboration/partnerships, we
are all better if we play together (interplay between self interest and shared
interest). How do you align and build coalitions?
Additional Discussion: None
Meeting adjourned by Wade Troxell at 5:28 pm.