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Council Finance Committee Zoom Meeting
May 4 , 2023
Via Zoom
Council Attendees: Julie Pignataro, Emily Francis, Kelly Ohlson
Staff: Kelly DiMartino, Travis Storin, Rupa Venkatesh, John Duval, Ethan Doak,
Meaghan Overton, Marcy Yoder, Brittany Depew, Chief Swoboda, Sgt. Annie
Hill, Mike Calhoon, Victoria Shaw, Aaron Reed, Rebecca Pomering, Javier
Echeverria Diaz, Terri Runyan, Gerry Paul, Blaine Dunn, Adam Halvorson, Jo
Cech, Randy Bailey, Brian Hergott, Kerri Ishmael, Zack Mozer, Erik Martin,
Carolyn Koontz
Others: Kevin Jones, Chamber
Sady Swanson, Coloradoan
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Meeting called to order at 4:00 pm
Approval of minutes from the April 6, 2023, Council Finance Committee Meeting. Emily Francis moved for approval
of the minutes as presented. Julie Pignataro seconded the motion. The minutes were approved unanimously via roll
call by; Julie Pignataro, Emily Francis .
Kelly Ohlson joined the meeting at 4:11 pm
A. Auditor RFP Process
Blaine Dunn, Accounting Director
Randy Bailey, Controller
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
The purpose of this item is to solicit consensus from the Committee regarding:
• The process for selecting an independent auditor for an up-to five -year period.
A Request for Proposal (RFP) will be issued this summer for audit services. The process is designed to ensure the
selected firm meets the City’s requirements and has the knowledge, experience, and reputation in auditing
similar entities.
An annual external audit by an independent CPA firm is required by Statute, Charter, debt covenants, and
virtually all grant agreements.
GENERAL DIRECTION SOUGHT AND SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED
Staff seeks input on:
• Evaluation criteria for selection of the independent auditor
• Desired modification to historical processes for selection, if any
• Preference on number of firms to be interviewed by the committee.
BACKGROUND/DISCUSSION
Auditor Rotation
Multi-year contracts are limited to 5 years by City Code. The City does have a mandatory auditor rotation policy
in City Code. The Code specifies no firm is eligible for more than two consecutive five -year terms. If the
incumbent does respond to the RFP for a second five-year term, they must assign a new lead partner to conduct
the audit. The City’s current audit firm is in their first five -year term and will be allowed to respond should they
meet the above requirements.
GFOA best practice guidance acknowledges that private sector and publicly traded SEC filing entities have
rotation practices mandated by regulatory authorities or their own bylaws. In the public sector, GFOA cautions
that sometimes it is difficult to get enough qualified responses if the incumbent is disallowed.
The below table shows a 30-year history of audit firms the City has engaged.
1993 Bondi 2005 Bondi 2017 RSM (McGladrey)
1994 Bondi 2006 Bondi 2018 BKD
1995 Bondi 2007 Bondi 2019 BKD
1996 Bondi 2008 McGladrey & Pullen 2020 BKD
1997 Bondi 2009 McGladrey & Pullen 2021 Forvis (BKD)
1998 Bondi 2010 McGladrey 2022 Forvis (BKD)
1999 Bondi 2011 McGladrey
2000 Bondi 2012 McGladrey
2001 Bondi 2013 McGladrey
2002 Bondi 2014 McGladrey
2003 Bondi 2015 McGladrey
2004 Bondi 2016 RSM (McGladrey)
Timeline and Process
Staff proposes to release a Request for Proposal (RFP) in July. The proposed evaluation criteria, all to be equally
weighed at 25% and in no particular order, would be:
• Scope of proposal
• Assigned personnel qualifications.
• Cost and work hours
• Firm capability & reputation
A staff committee, including staff members from City, Library and PFA will evaluate written proposals and
recommend the top firms for presentation to the Finance Committee.
Interviews would be conducted at a special Finance Committee meeting in August with the City Purchasing
Director serving as Purchasing Agent and facilitator. The Committee’s recommendation would be presented to
the full Council for adoption via Resolution, thereby authorizing the Purchasing Agent to enter into an
agreement with the awarded firm for the 2023 fiscal year audit, renewable annually through the 2027 audit.
DISCUSSION / NEXT STEPS
GENERAL DIRECTION SOUGHT AND SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED
Staff seeks input on:
• Evaluation criteria for selection of the independent auditor
• Desired modification to historical processes for selection, if any
• Preference on number of firms to be interviewed by the committee.
Julie Pignataro; have there been any issues with the current process?
Blaine Dunn; I don’t think there have been any issues with the process that we have used in the past – I think it
has worked well – After the last selection, we did get feedback from the committee that two finalists wasn’t
enough choice to bring so maybe we bring three if the committee wants to see a 3rd finalist in the pool. If the
committee agrees, we recommend capping it at 3 finalists.
Travis Storin; we anticipate it to be a competitive process as the City is considered to be a prestigious client as
these firms look to build out their portfolio in their government practice., The feedback we got the last time was
that 2 options really didn’t feel like a choice.
Julie Pignataro; how long are the interviews?
Blaine Dunn; the interviews are typically 45-50 minutes with a 5–10-minute buffer between interviews to allow
time for the firms to swap places at the table. We also allow for a debrief at the end for the committee to make
a decision.
Julie Pignataro; how many applicants do we traditionally receive?
Gerry Paul; the last cycle, we received seven proposals and interviewed two applicants. Our standard practice is
to interview three. We don’t typically interview more than three unless there is a compelling reason.
Julie Pignataro; I would be ok with three. I can understand not feeling like you really have a choice with two.
Blaine Dunn; our intention is to do the interviews back-to-back in one session and make the selection decision
following the interview s in the same meeting.
Emily Francis; I agree with what has been said it sounds like a good plan.
B. Encampment Cleanup Pilot Program
Rupa Venkatesh, Assistant City Manager
Rebecca Pomering, Natural Areas Technician I
Sgt. Annie Hill, Police Services
Mike Calhoon, Parks Director
Mary Yoder, Neighborhood Services Manager
Brittany Depew, Homelessness Response & Solutions Lead Specialist
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
In Fall 2022, staff identified a backlog of identified encampments throughout the City and determined that
cleanups need to shift from twice a month to once per week. This was implemented towards the end of January
2023 with the realization that the 2023 funded offer would not be sustainable for the entire year. A pilot
program was implemented to assess the effectiveness and need to continue after three months with an
opportunity to share findings with the Council Finance Committee to request an appropriation if the program
was achieving desired results.
GENERAL DIRECTION SOUGHT AND SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED
1. What questions does the Committee have regarding the pilot program?
2. Does the Committee support additional funds in 2023 to continue with the weekly camp cleanup pilot
program?
3. Does the Committee support staff bringing forward a request for additional funds for 2024 during the mid-
cycle revision process in fall 2023?
BACKGROUND/DISCUSSION (details of item – History, current policy, previous Council actions, alternatives or
options, costs or benefits, considerations leading to staff conclusions, data and statistics, next steps, etc.)
Prior to 2019, the City did not have a separate encampment fund. In 2017 and 2018, cleanups were coming from
regular operating budgets for Natural Areas, Parks, Neighborhood Services, and other departments where
cleanups were occurring. In Fall 2018, a mid-cycle adjustment was requested for a dedicated fund to utilize in
2019. The joint offer was submitted by Neighborhood Services, Parks, Stormwater, and Natural Areas who
provide staffing. Since 2019, a dedicated encampment fund has been utilized though funds expended have
varied over the years likely due to the COVID-19 pandemic.
Since Fall 2022, a weekly tactical team of staff from Social Sustainability, Natural Areas, Police Services,
Neighborhood Services, Parks Rangers, Transfort, City Attorney’s Office and partners such as Poudre Fire
Authority and Outreach Fort Collins meet to coordinate encampment cleanup prioritization and identify hot
spots.
The growing number of encampments became an emergent issue with the turnaround time of when a camp is
identified to cleanup of up to 3 months. A pilot program was implemented to move towards weekly cleanups
with a goal to reduce turnaround time to 30 days.
As of April 6, 2023, the turnaround time for cleanups is an average of 12 days. 257 camps have been cleaned
with 169 cubic yards of waste, 363 Sharps, 77 shopping carts and 15 cubic yards of metal collected and diverted
from Natural Areas, Parks, and other locations in the City. If the current pilot program continues, it is on track to
divert 19% more trash, 41% more shopping carts and 24% more metal than 2022.
In order to continue the current pilot program of weekly cleanups, an additional $175,000 is requested for 2023.
Additional funds will also be utilized for a debris boom pilot project to help mitigate issues occurring at Warren
Lake/Larimer Ditch #2 as well as provide assistance to the Conifer Street area as it relates to inoperable RVs.
During the mid-cycle revision process in Fall 2023, s taff will bring forward a request for additional funds for
2024.
DISCUSSION / NEXT STEPS
GENERAL DIRECTION SOUGHT AND SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED
1) What questions does the Committee have regarding the pilot program?
2) Does the Committee support additional funds in 2023 to continue with the weekly camp cleanup pilot
program?
3) Does the Committee support staff bringing forward a request for additional funds for 2024 during the mid-
cycle revision process in fall 2023?
Julie Pignataro ; how is the city defining ‘camp ’?
See slide #8 below.
Rebecca Pomering; a site that needs to be cleaned up is referred to as a camp –can be a variety of designations -
camps tagged / trash clean up – no valuables present – folks have left.
Thank you for the Warren Lake boom – thank you for making that happen.
Julie Pignataro; are our shelters full in the summer?
Rupa Venkatesh; yes, we do not do overflow in the summer, but we have talked about extreme heat situations –
I will refer to Meaghan for more context.
Meaghan Overton; traditionally the city’s overflow response has been limited to cold weather months only .
Recently we have been working on an emergency heat response – during the summer months, the concern is
mostly for daytime hours when the temperature is highest. Places like the Murphy Center will open as a cooling
center but no overnight shelter option in the summer – work is going on now to pilot what a coordinated and
slightly more robust and data informed heat response might look like (more extreme temps due to climate
change)
Julie Pignataro; are people camping because they don’t want to be in a shelter or because they can’t?
Sgt. Annie Hill; we ask that que stion every time we come in contact with someone – why they are not utilizing a
shelter – 99% of the time, folks say they do not want to be n shelter - due to theft. I get an email with how many
beds available - there were 3 beds open last night.
Julie Pignataro; when we have overflow shelters – do they offer choice of where folks can sleep?
Meahgan Overton; I don’t know if there is a direct yes or no answer to that question– because people’s needs
vary so much – when we talk about traditional overnight, we are talking about The Fort Collins Rescue Mission
which serves single men. This can get complicated rather quickly with couples, families, etc. Additional shelter
capacity creates options for some folks but not across the board – a complicated answer.
Julie Pignataro; on the Successes slide (see slide #11 below) The sub-bullet that says ‘a person experiencing
homelessness (PEH) was able to get housed in just 20 days. How do they get housed?
Sgt. Annie Hill; this was an individual who had been frequently staying in the Troutman tunnel and had been
contacted by Police, Transfort among others. We were able to get Outreach Fort Collins on site and they were
able to initiate the housing questionnaire , and because of his level of vulnerability he was housed very quickly
which is not typical. He got permanent supportive housing.
We need to at least get people in a place where they can complete the housing questionnaire if they do want
long term housing. Then they at least have some type of goal they are working towards. If they are not on any
housing list, how do we make homelessness brief?
The goal is to get outreach on site as often as we can to at least figure out how to get them on track. This
individual is a really great success story – he sings our praises.
Meaghan Overton; if I could add a bit of context, one of the pieces of the weekly meeting that has been
mentioned a few times, is the inclusion of the regional continuum of care and the coordinated entry system.
A group of city staff and partners meeting to talk through hot spots and folks that we are interacting with
regularly, so the continuum of care does a lot of work in the background to connect people with housing
resources in particular and case management – so connecting police / code enforcement with the continuum of
care is part of what is really helping everyone have the same information.
If they are on a housing list, the continuum of care might be aware but maybe Police is not
aware that they are on a list at all. Communication has been a big benefit of the weekly coordination meetings.
Rupa Venkatesh; with Police being on those calls, they hear the continuum of care and who is on these housing
lists – when they are out in the community, they can connect those pieces. The continuum of care is not
necessarily out in the field, but Police Services is – so it is really connecting the dots.
Julie Pignataro; I am a yes to your questions – I am also a further yes – if you could find a need for another $25 -
50K to help get these people housed or find some other options. That would be amazing, and this would be the
time to do it. We know we are working on these long-term solutions. We know that camp clean ups are a
short-term solution . Will this presentation be given to the full Council or if it will be part of a larger package, but
we need to re humanize this data. As impressive as the data is about the clean ups, it is actually very depressing.
Talk more about what is happening on the other end like what we are trying to do for people.
Emily Francis; if we tag an active camp, do we clean up after they leave?
Sgt. Annie Hille; the tag is giving them a warning that they can’t be camping there as there is usually a good
amount of rubbish. We don’t enforce this at night – We don’t start clean-up until at least 24 hours after the
camp has been tagged. We at least do two tags prior to clean up.
Rupa Venkatesh; so the $5,500 average weekly clean up cost is the cost of the contractor.
Emily Francis; I understand the budget is going to trash cleanup, but I struggle with tagging active camps and
asking people to move when we don’t have shelter space for folks to utilize or other housing options to offer.
They move to another camp, and we have to do it all over again.
Rebecca Pomering ; one thing we have noticed is that if we don’t take immediate action on these clean ups, they
will build upon each other we don’t want people in the tunnel of a ditch system for a variety of reasons including
safety (if the water would turn on) and people aren’t able to move out of the way or the physical debris that is in
the canal which is intensified with the number of people. Som the sooner we can identify a problem and get
them resources whether that is through outreach or Police.
Emly Francis; so, is it every active camp?
Sgt. Annie Hill; we offer resources to every single camp we go to – we want to help get people connected to
resources. We identify areas where if we don’t address them, they get larger and there can be more crime in
the camps. It becomes an unsafe environment if we don’t address them early on as Rebecca mentioned.
The area they cover is usually Old Town and North Fort Collins and the transit lines. They have been really
accommodating in coming on site.
Emily Francis; I understand that there are big safety concerns and concerns around natural areas where we see a
lot of folks camping. The reality is that these are sweeps as we are continually asking people who are
experiencing homelessness to move. I struggle with, w e don’t have enough space in our community to house
people or enough overflow shelter space . Asking them to move is another disruptor for their lives .
How much does it cost to run our overflow shelter?
Meaghan Overton; let me see if we can get that number.
Emily Francis; w e do need to make progress with the options that we can offer people.
Kelly O hlson; on slide #12 (see below) the $50-70K for an abandoned construction site. That seems like a high
number. Why did we let it get that bad before cleaning it up?
Rupa Venkatesh; first, we could not contact the property owner over several months. When we didn’t have any
luck, essentially the o ptions were – Do we keep trying to contact the owner OR do we do something to help
mitigate the problem?
Marcy Yode r; it was also to secure the site, it is not that expensive to just do clean up. It needed to be f enced
and boarded so that folks can’t continue to get into those partially constructed buildings. It ranges from they
dug the hole for the basement and stopped to the house is partially up but doesn’t have windows or doors to
close and secure it.
Rupa Venkatesh; the framing had actually deteriorated so it had become this open space.
Kelly Ohlson; I am yes on the questions. I really like the team effort. It was a long time coming, but I like where
you are at. I have little to no empathy for folks creating messes in natural and sensitive areas.
When you don’t act, it is only getting worse over time -I know we need to work on systemic solutions for the
problem. We are cleaning the camps, but the number of camps continues to increas e year over year.
Nothing is actually being done to mitigate the problem, but I appreciate what is being done.
Sgt. Annie Hill; we have more users on the field map app and more people out working together to address this.
–The numbers look big right now as since January we have a coordinated team and effort. The goal is to have a
significant decrease.
Kelly Ohlson; I also have empathy for residents who don’t want to go there anymore. The perception is that we
are not doing enough. I have talked with residents who will not go to parts of the Poudre River Trail.
Is the f unding coming from the General Fund?
Rupa Venkatesh; yes, the funding is coming from the General Fund.
Meaghan Overton; I was able to get an estimate for seasonal overflow 2020 – 2021 which would include
November through April - $280K for that season .
Emily Francis; the longer we push it down the road – we continue to see increased numbers spent on clean ups
but what are we doing to actually address the problem?
Rupa Venkatesh; we are looking at what are the other innovative programs that are already out there that can
help PEH and we are also collaborating with our regional partners to help house individuals. You hit the two
pieces of puzzle – we aren’t just doing clean ups but also working on what we can do to help people so they
don’t have to camp.
Meeting adjourned at 5:00 pm
APPROVED BY THE FINANCE COMMITTEE ON JULY 6, 2023