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HomeMy WebLinkAboutEconomic Advisory Commission - Minutes - 02/17/2016MINUTES CITY OF FORT COLLINS ECONOMIC ADVISORY COMMISSION Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 Location: CIC Room, City Hall, 300 Laporte Ave. Time: 11:00am–1:30pm For Reference Wade Troxell, Mayor & Council Liaison Josh Birks, Staff Liaison 221-6324 Dianne Tjalkens, Minutes 221-6734 Commission Members Present Commission Members Absent Sam Solt, Chair Linda Stanley Glen Colton Denny Otsuga (via phone) Ted Settle Kristin Owens Alan Curtis (11:35) Ann Hutchison Staff Present Staff Absent Josh Birks, Economic Health Director Dianne Tjalkens, Admin/Board Support Cameron Gloss, Planning Manager Guests Dale Adamy Craig Mueller Ken Waido Diane Jones Meeting called to order at 11:09am Review and Approval of Minutes: Linda moved and Ted seconded a motion to approve the January minutes as presented. Motion passed unanimously, 6-0-0. Alan arrived after vote. Staff Update—There is one opening on the board, and one applicant. Members are encouraged to reach out to interested persons. Agenda Review—Tentative item on airport has been delayed. Public Comment—None Commission Member/Staff Updates—Ted attended innovation economy meeting. Major emphasis on need for diversity. • Diversity of what? 1 | Page o Race, and other factors. Diversity is central to having companies attract people to the region and sponsoring a more innovative climate. Don’t see diversity here.  Want to drain brains of other countries so they can stay in poverty and we can use them. We should have interest in people being educated, our own population having economic health to be comfortable and survive. Policy to attract best and brightest from other countries is objectionable. We don’t care what happens to their home country. Same as we don’t care about impact on other countries of climate change. Also diversity is awesome if people are made to feel comfortable. o What has happened is they come of own volition to study, then return to home country, which we also find objectionable.  Wish they would return.  Immigration policy now discourages from staying. o Had lots of innovation in this country when we had little diversity. Insulting to native born Americans to say we don’t have enough smart people to be innovative. Don’t need to bring people in from other countries. Have a lot of diversity here already. A lot of diversity can cause cultural problems and clashes. Should not make it a focus. • Concerns or issues should be addressed directly to the program. AGENDA ITEM 1—Election of Officers Linda nominated Sam as Chair. Sam is willing to continue for another year. Linda moved and Ann seconded a motion to elect Sam as Chair of the Economic Advisory Committee for 2016. Motion passed unanimously, 6-0-0. Alan arrived after vote. Kristin moved and Ann seconded a motion to elect Ted as Vice Chair of the Economic Advisory Committee for 2016. Motion passed unanimously, 6-0-0. Alan arrived after vote. AGENDA ITEM 2— Growth in Fort Collins/Overview of City Plan—Cameron Gloss Requesting budget for scoping a new City Plan in 2017/18. Have had tremendous growth. Difficult time creating affordable housing, keeping up with transportation needs, etc. How big does Fort Collins get, how fast, and what are implications? Staff maintains a buildable land inventory which is used to create build-out analysis. Population last year was 158K in City. Will be over 160K in 2016. Two year growth spurt (over 3% annually). Have been doing growth management for over 30 years. Started with 1979 Urban Service Area Study. Boundary created in IGA in 1980 includes most of current GMA. Amended in 2000 to include areas near Anheuser-Busch and parcels around Fossil Creek and foothills. In 2004 settled on fixed boundary, with minor tweaks. Buildout Analysis is hypothetical study, using many assumptions—infill, redevelopment, vacant, and netting out land to be conserved. Also used CSU’s adopted master plan, approved/in-process projects, and densities similar to recent averages (developers are not currently maxing out density—80%). 255K is population capacity based on the analysis. Have been at about 2.3% growth average. If look at maximum development density with 3% growth will have buildout by 2025. Rate of growth hard to calculate. This is just one estimate. Hearing from state demographer that will continue to see higher rate of growth. Available land is around perimeter of community. Only a few areas where will see significant growth—Mountain Vista and Mulberry corridor (still county jurisdiction). Has been discussion of creating an enclave for annexation of Mulberry corridor, but remains years out. Mountain Vista has greatest vacant undeveloped land. Have been discussing development patterns—template to embrace urban ag., Nature in the City, etc. Ex: Bucking Horse/Jessup Farm with trails, open space, and ag. production infused into new neighborhoods. Monday had Vine/Lemay intersection meeting—preliminary grade-separated design. There is a lot of developer interest in Mountain Vista. Many infrastructure issues, including transportation and cost of water (ELCO 2 | Page prices higher than City’s). Downtown/Midtown development will be infill/redevelopment. Housing project at mall is approved and moving forward. Several parcels on Mason corridor may be redeveloped. New Downtown Plan has had tremendous public outreach. Will have draft plan May/June. Regional employment growth—a lot of potential employment growth along I-25 (will follow up with numbers). 25- 44 and 65+ age groups are growing. Residential growth will be in Mountain Vista and in the east. Land and material costs are increasing significantly. More expensive to build. Interest rates are low and developers feel need to move projects along quickly. Volume of developer applications is huge. Commuting patterns—Fort Collins has done good job balancing jobs and housing. Potential to buy or rent a home here. Greeley is not doing as well—more people out-commuting. Loveland, same thing. 2014 data: Fort Collins 55% of workers live in Fort Collins; Boulder 33.7% of workers live in city. Looking at median sales price versus affordable purchase price 2000-2012, Boulder has become much less affordable, Timnath prices have gone up significantly. Average rent in Fort Collins is $1300/mth. Seeing drop in owner occupied homes, increase in rentals. Boulder current development is mostly attached units. More single family units in Longmont. Net in-commuting to Fort Collins is about 4400/day. Doing well. Many people living in Wellington who work in Fort Collins. Harmony is funnel in from Timnath and has more congestion. Need to look at carbon emissions, CAP is robust, will be modelling emissions, whole Front Range is experiencing growth. Need balance: jobs/housing, transportation, employment/services, etc. As scope new City Plan will continue discussions on what to measure. Three legged stool of sustainability. Another leg is cultural. What is character of community? Sense of place? What is essence of Fort Collins? How do we measure it and how to get sense of what community values? Will be looking to community for input over next 6-9 months. Discussion/Q & A: • Western boundary? o Overland Trail, CSU foothills campus. • Buildout doesn’t mean bigger footprint only? o Correct. Also building up. Midtown, downtown, and other areas will start to see taller buildings. o Doesn’t affect GMA square footage, but density and population.  Under present regulations looking at maximum could be built to. But could decide to intensify some areas, or decrease density in some areas. Maintaining community character. • What is Boulder’s rate of growth? o Job rate of growth is higher than population growth. Less than 1%.  Importing workers.  US rate is 1%. o Boulder has reached $1M average home price. • Should be a natural restrictor to control the rate of growth. Council seems to want to make the city bigger. o The flip side is that developers are looking at time value of money. From staff standpoint the pace is remarkable. • Development fees always lag. Infrastructure replenishment is behind. o Coloradoan editorial on Sunday blamed affordable housing problem on fees. This would be good information to take to editorial board to show pressure of other costs due to demand. Labor costs are not the City’s fault.  We try to provide accurate information. Land and hard costs are increasing. Soft costs and fees will stay level. Rate of change in land cost is incredible right now. Don’t have newer data readily available. o City is getting ready to update the analysis to include “buckets” driven by policy decisions. Example: In Fort Collins required to do soil amendments when build a home. How much does that increase the cost of a home? What are the cost drivers beyond land?  Fuller story.  Recent land sales, prices are going up. Also hearing about concrete cost and labor costs. 3 | Page • Painters are getting $75/hr. • Everyone is in a rush right now. • Need to remember that City Plan was to balance growth with protecting characteristics of the community that we like. See more about pushing growth, without regard to character of neighborhoods. Traffic is insane. Have been saying for years that when put foot down on economic growth, having negative consequences. Costs go up, housing becomes unaffordable, traffic, etc. Ridiculous to think we are going to buildout, hit a wall and stop growth. Need to take foot off the gas so don’t grow as fast. Small town feel is gone. Must be careful. For Council to want to grow at 6% or 10%, is that what we want as a community? Have never asked citizens how many people we want. Have been ramping up economic growth and putting in infrastructure—not surprised at the results. • If City Council made decision that want to limit growth, what are the levers to use? o Petaluma and Boulder have had allocation systems to restrict number of building permits. Other growth management techniques, but that is most strict. Other ways to meter what happens—infrastructure deficiencies.  Has anyone assessed impact of Boulder’s process on community, including housing prices? What happens to other characteristics of the community? • Studies have been done. A few years old.  Commission wants to look at what other communities have done and what the impacts have been.  Would like to translate “small town feel” into metrics—community health indicators. Quantifying feelings. • That would be huge step to attain by end of year. Top ten metrics that show health within this parameter. • Social discussion of networks, friendships, neighborhoods. How do you measure that? • Boulder example of not many workers living there, must be good for tax base. Residential is more expensive to serve than commercial. o Will have fewer services, but their transportation system is getting a lot of wear and tear. How to generate the balance.  Caution to suggest that office employment is a profit center—it does support some retail. Some purchasing choices are made based on where a person lives, some on where work, and some irrespective of either.  Different distribution of revenues/costs. • Places that have seen increases in high tech primary jobs have worse affordability issues than Fort Collins. Yet Boulder continued to grow primary jobs. A lot of our policies are based on providing primary jobs, but create secondary jobs and those people can’t afford to live here anymore. Giving incentives—employees are coming from outside, leading to more crowding, etc. • People moving to Timnath are maybe looking for product type they can’t find in Fort Collins. Median sales price is higher than Fort Collins. o Anecdotally hearing that from developers. o Average income of those living in Timnath is higher too. • Some people may like the growth, while some are against it. How do you measure this? How do you manage the rate of growth? Should be a rate of growth that matches how you mange infrastructure. • Was Jessup Farm format choice of developer or influence of City? o Both. Developer did master plan and City staff pushed to do something more innovative. Two farmsteads. City put foot down that needed to be preserved. Developer agreed, but let fall into disrepair. Then recession hit. Change in ownership/new developer. Consultants made suggestions, City did as well. Opportunity that new developer embraced. Hearing comments on wanting to replicate. “Third Place”—where people come together, aside from home and work. Southeast Fort Collins was lacking this. Has good feeling. Walkable from surrounding neighborhoods. In original City Plan was vision that this would happen in multiple places around the city. • Astounding growth along Front Range. We can influence how we grow and what it looks like. 4 | Page o Hear comment that City is actively and directly soliciting developers and actively trying to fill the city, but that is not what is happening. People like to come here. As city changes, different people coming. Can’t change that, but commission and City can manage how change happens. Example of City requiring preservation is good. Can’t build a wall and reject people you don’t like. Not our role. Stay focused on areas we can influence and be effective. Slide 16: most developers are getting contractors from Denver. There are plumbers and tile and carpet—if use contractors and retailers in city limit, could get discount or if use from outside get additional fees. Can the City do this? Legal, enforceable?  Tough to administer. Fees have stayed stable. Can debate how much fees and taxes contribute to overall cost. • Planning is doing a great job. What kinds of planning models exist in Severance and other communities? Do they play together? o Smaller communities may not have planning department, so contract out. Some have one planner who is also doing other jobs. Hard to be cutting edge. Has to be political will to do level of analysis Fort Collins does. City does long range planning, high caliber staff. • What has happened in Boulder is not all that bad. Some of the communities around Boulder are pretty cool. o Cameron was a planner in Boulder. They made some big decisions including limited boundary. Boulder County is progressive. In 1979 had realization that would get out of development business. Agreements with neighboring communities to have development in communities, rather than sprawl. Tremendous job managing open space and focusing growth in communities. However, with increase in jobs got a housing crisis. Beautiful community with quality development. Design details/excellence. Carefully orchestrated. o Cities should have ways to control development. • More metrics to do new plan, to understand economic conditions, would be helpful. Scoping project to see what can be done in-house and where will need consultants. Open to suggestions. o Would like to see demographic change piece. Ethnicity, education, families, singles, religious affiliation, etc. That snapshot of trends would be helpful.  On list already. See where trending. Where we are heading. o Can get idea of what is possible within larger system. Look at tradeoffs that have been made in other communities. Ex: Silicon Valley, Houston, etc.  Case studies. Trying to grasp ahold of work that has already been done. If come across existing case study, that might be best. Take advantage of work already done. • Linda agreed to research. • Discussion of values with visual preference survey. Look at what people wanted 20 years ago. That isn’t asked very often. o Have that study on file. Will be engaging community again in City Plan update. In 1996 was effort to do innovative public outreach. Have far surpassed these techniques. Have digital 3D model of downtown, have more tools for public polling, paying attention to different learning styles. Goal of getting tens of thousands involved in update. o Affordability vs. wages—has been unaffordable since before 1980. Would like to see data further back. Some think we can grow ourselves into affordability.  Several cases of people who come here from places much more expensive. ACTION ITEMS: Josh will send updated agenda schedule. Meeting Adjourned: 1:10pm Next Meeting: March 16 5 | Page