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HomeMy WebLinkAboutLandmark Preservation Commission - Minutes - 06/03/1987r 0 LANDMARK PRESERVATION COMMISSION MEETING - MINUTES June 3, 1987 The meeting began at approximately 5.30 p.m., at 200 West Mountain Avenue. Those members attending were Wayne Sundberg, Jennifer Carpenter, Carol Tun- ner, and Dick Beardmore. Members absent included Sally Ketcham and Michael Ehler. Staff was represented by Edwina Echevarria, Kayla Ballard and Judy Reed. Rio Grande Restaurant: Reviewed by Dick Beardmore, Carol Tunner and Michael Ehler. ISSUES/O0MMERrS: Sign looks a little large in back. Enclosure across street to match, to be solid redwood. Concern over the color chosen for the stucco (Pandora). Might be too bright. The fence will cover the majority of the stucco. Considering Rumors and the problem with the brightness. Suggest using "Utah Clay" color. Since location is in the alley, a bright color is not out of the question. Sign might serve the purpose of aiding in fire access. Fort Collins Convention and Visitors Bureau: Reviewed by Jennifer Carpen- ter and Wayne Sundberg. ISSUES/CCPNNM: Request they put a border around the sign. Colors are to be Pearl Grey and Copper vinyl. Sign #5 is same size as pilaster, suggest they make sign a bit wider. Sign #2 might need to be smaller, and add bor- der. Edwina stated she had difficulty in getting a representative for this project. RIO GRANDE RESTAURANT Mr. Sundberg pointed out concerns regarding the size of the sign in the back. Andre Mouton, co-owner, stated that the size came about because the boards are that size, but there would be no problem in reducing sign. Mr. Beardmore stated that looking at the photograph gives one a different perspective. Mr. Sundberg stated that if it was any smaller, people might not be able to see it. Ms. Carpenter asked if people would use the back as an entrance. Mr. Mouton stated it would not be an entrance. They just want people to know what is behind the addition. June 3, 1987 LPC Minutes Page 2 Ms. 'banner stated the sign might be good for fire access identification. Mr. Mouton stated if business picks up, they might consider making a back entrance, but that would entail a complete renovation, and that this addi- tion is just for summer use. Some consideration has been given to closing in this addition. Ms. Thinner asked about parking availability in the rear. Mr. Mouton stated their allotted parking is 7 spaces, which is the minimum by code for their employees, but they do need more at this time. All of the businesses in this area are short on parking spaces. Rio Grande employees might reed to park across the street. Ms. Timmer suggested using the Jefferson Street Lot, which is a public parking lot. Mr. Mouton agreed, but pointed cut that would be a consideration for the future. Ms. Carpenter stated she felt the color was possibly too bright. Mr. Mouton pointed out the paint would be a flat color. They haven't ruled out using white instead of peach. Ms. Carpenter didn't think they should necessarily go to white, but that they might need to tone down the peach color. Mr. Mouton stated they had not purchased the paint, and could change the color. Mr. Beardmore suggested a sample be painted on the wall for viewing. Mr. Mouton stated that the adjoining wall is brick and they want a color that will flow with that wall. Mr. Beardmore asked if the redwood fence would be left natural or painted. Mr. Mouton stated it would be left natural, with a clear, protective coat, similar to what is across the alley, around the trash bins, so all would blend. Ms. Tunner stated that it would be a wonderful improvement, and the addi- tional space will be beneficial. She does not have a problem with either color, but would also like to see a test area painted next to the brick. She also asked if they would be painting the exposed pipes. Mr. Mouton stated that most of the pipes will be painted. Ms. Tunner asked about the overhead wire that runs from the back of the building, and will be right over the eating area. June 3, 1987 LPC Minutes Page 3 • . Mr. Beardmore pointed cut in the picture that the wire was well above the doorway. Mr. Mouton stated the wall was 15' high and the wire ties in right at the top. Mr. Sundberg asked what would be done about the vent fan. Mr. Mouton said they have not made any plans, however, they have put up a new piece of wood to re -surface the area. Ms. Tuner stated the vent would be directed at patrons. Mr. Mouton explained that only hot air from the dish roan was vented. He may need to speak with the city about re -directing the vent. Mr. Beardmore moves to approve the application as submitted, with the stip- ulation that we try a paint sample of the Utah Clay #15-7W, and Pandora 15-3W. Mr. Mouton asked if the sign was all right. Ms. Tunner stated it was acceptable. Ms. Tuner seconded the motion. !Motion to approve passed 4-0. FORE COLLINS CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU Deana Rizzi represented the Bureau. Ms. Carpenter brought up the concern of sign #5, is there a brick border, picture is not clear. Ms. Rizzi said the sign would fill the entire space. Ms. Carpenter asked about sign #4, if it would be placed over the two col- ors of brick. Ms. Rizzi stated that the border canes right before the edge. Mr. Beardmore stated that if the sign was centered, it would just barely clear the edges. Mr. Sundberg asked if the Board would like to make some recommendations and contingencies. Mr. Beardmore pointed out that all signs are duraply, except the Building # sign, which is brass. Colors are good, blending well. June 3, 1987 LPC Minutes Page 4 Mr. Beardmore moved to approve sign #1 as submitted; sign #2 above the 2 windows be revised to include a frame to match Jon's Bread; sign #3 to be revised to include a frame; sign #4 include frame to match Jon's Bread, and that the length of the sign be reduced to 516" and centered at the loca- tion; sign #5, frame to match, and 3 "-4" of clearance on either side, and reduce sign to 118". Ms. Carpenter seconded the motion. Ms. Carpenter asked if the framing that will match Jon's Bread should be scaled down on the smaller signs, or no framing at all. Ms. Tuner feels there is no need for framing on signs 3 & 5 (smaller signs). Ms. Carpenter would like to see the signs framed. Mr. Beardmore sees the frames as adding depth and to be visually esthetic. Ms. Tunner requests it be pointed out the signs should be secured in the mortar joints. An amendment to the motion to include the stipulation that signs be secured in the mortar joints. Ms. Carpenter seconded the amendment. Mr. Beardmore stated the color of the trim is to match the trim of the building, not what was submitted. Motion to approve as amended passed 4-0. MINUTES March 4, 1987: Page 2, second paragraph, should refer to Guideline 27, not to page 19 & 20. Minutes were approved as edited. April 1, 1987: Page 9, delete 4th to last paragraph, "Ms. Carpenter thought the agenda with the format listing the participants at that time and the action". Approved as edited. April 23, 1987: Special Meeting. Approved as submitted. May 6, 1987: Pages 1 and 4, change "Avery House" to "Avery Block". Approved as edited. May 20, 1987: Special Meeting. Approved as submitted. 014= BUSINESS Kayla introduced Judy Reed, who will be the new LPC Secretary. June 3, 1987 LPC M'tes • Page 5 Mr. Sundberg told the board that Mr. Tan Peterson will attend the July 1st meeting. A work session may be needed prior to that meeting, to discuss guidelines for colors. Mr. Beardmore would like to wait on the work session until the new staff member can attend. Mr. Beardmore would like to provide written documentation to the Paver Plant visual art center, on the boards revisions, concerning the windows. Ms. Echevarria will write a letter to CRB with a copy to the Power Plant visual art center. The meeting adjourned at approximately 7:35.