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HomeMy WebLinkAboutRetirement Committee - Minutes - 05/30/1996City of Fort Collins Retirement Plan • CORRECTED FORT COLLINS GENERAL EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT COMMITTEE MAY 30, 1996 MEETING MINUTES COUNCIL LIAISON: Ann Azari, Mayor COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT: ABSENT: Jerry P. Brown, 221-6350(w), 226-0800(h) Dave Meyer, 221-6927 Jacci Peterson, 221-6692 Gary Ellis, 221-6700 Alan Krcmarik, Member/Staff Support OTHERS PRESENT: Sue Wilcox (Staff Support - Secretary) Russ Proctor - Watson Wyatt Worldwide, the City's actuarial firm Laurie Harvey (Staff Support - Benefits Administrator) Bob Eichem (Staff Support - Treasury) CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Jerry P. Brown called the regular meeting to order at 1:19 p.m. in the Council Information Center of City Hall West. ITEMS OF NOTE: This meeting replaces the original June 6th meeting. Jerry advised the group that Mayor Ann Azari and City Manager John Fischbach would both visit with the Committee today at separate times, and this might require slight adjustments in the agenda. Jacci Peterson had planned to attend today's meeting, but her travel arrangements had been changed without her knowledge, so she is unavailable. In addition Jacci will resign her City position effective July 19th, but has expressed the desire to continue on the Committee. According to the City Code, she can continue as a citizen member, but that decision is up to City Council. Alan asked that the information about Jacci's resignation be communicated to City Council. -The consensus of Committee members was that they would like to see Jacci remain on the Committee. Assistant City Attorney Bobbi Burnette was unable to attend the meeting. Jerry had his quarterly meeting with Mayor Azari, GERC Council liaison, and reviewed the assumptions and information in the valuation report. He showed her the latest draft of his Personal Retirement Planning Statement, which she felt provided excellent information. She requested Jerry send a copy of the final form to all Council members. When advised of the rewrite of the Plan information booklet, she asked that it also be sent to City Council with a memo explaining its purpose, background, etc. Mayor Azari affirmed that the GER Committee reports to City Council and that City staff support persons would be willing to work with the GERC and management personnel on GERP issues. -1- 300 LaPorte Avenue • P.O. Box 580 • Fort Collins, CO 80522-0580 • (970) 221-6788 • FAX (970) 221-6782 GERC Minutes - Corrected May 30, 1996 APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Jerry provided the following statement and requested that it be included in these minutes: "I would like to apologize to the City Manager and the members of the Executive Lead Team for my negative comments in the May 2, 1996 GERC minutes. My comments were viewed as offensive to some, and were inappropriate." Gary Ellis moved and Dave Meyer seconded the motion to approve the minutes of the May 2, 1996 GERC meeting as distributed. The vote was 4-0 to approve the motion. DISCUSSION TOPICS: 1. GER PLAN MEMBER COMMENTS & CITIZEN INPUT: There were no member or citizen comments. 2. DISCUSSION OF GERC PHILOSOPHY OF RETIREMENT MAIN POINTS: Jacci Peterson had sent members a message explaining that she did not feel it was worthwhile to proceed with any part of the analysis of the retirement survey because of the cost and because at present it would only reflect the GERC's and support staff's views. She also stated that she favored a "cafeteria -style" retirement benefits plan and felt that cash -withdrawal features were the biggest drawback to a retirement plan. Russ Proctor of Watson Wyatt, the GER Plan's actuary, lead the discussion with the goal that the group determine the characteristics of the present benefits and the characteristics of the desired benefits. The gap between present character- istics and desired qualities is what the Committee would then work toward. Russ presented several charts showing the part each piece of retirement income plays in providing a reasonable retirement income. 1. The General Employees Retirement Plan provides a level benefit with no built-in inflation factor. 2. Social Security provides a benefit with built-in cost of living increases, which are paid by current employees. The first "Early -Out" program this year had no age requirements and set years of service at 20 or more. Another "Early -Out" program is being proposed which likewise sets no age limits or age requirements and requires a minimum of twenty years of City service. The early -out programs have great support from the labor/trades workers, who experience a physical "burnout" after years of hard physical labor. Dave Meyer felt that people were working longer, but Russ said that statistically, people want to and are retiring earlier (70% of employees in the early 1900's were over 60 and still working, while now that figure is 27%). Employees may begin working longer as their Social Security benefits are trimmed for early retirement. Russ pointed out that burnout is a more significant reason for reduced productivity rather than age. Burnout can be remedied by restructuring jobs to relieve boredom. I'41 GERC Minutes - Corrected May 30, 1996 Russ polled the GERC members and support staff about the affordability of the current plan and what increase in contribution to retirement benefits, if any, could current employees tolerate? Dave Meyer stated that the current plan is probably the maximum affordable, given the current economic climate and the Total Compensation system, which requires that any increase in one benefit means a decrease in another benefit or in wages. He felt minimal fluctuations should occur, with 1% being the maximum increase in any year. Gary Ellis essentially agreed with Dave. Laurie Harvey spoke for younger employees, many of whom are in entry level positions with low wages. These are often the employees who feel the impact of any decrease in wages the most. Older and longer -term employees are often able to contribute more to benefits, for example, the 457 Deferred Compensation Plan. Bob Eichem agreed with Laurie, suggesting that a formula using years of service could be used to determine the rate of contribution. Mayor Azari also commented that in the current housing climate, it is sometimes necessary to use 50% of Income for housing needs. Sue Wilcox said that in her training, saving was called "paying yourself first". Whether it was labeled "parental" or not, she felt some system of required contribution should exist for those who are unwilling or unable to contribute or save in any other way. The system in other countries, which requires contri- butions which cannot be withdrawn for other uses, is a good example. We can plan and pay now or we will pay later in both financial and personal terms for our lack of planning. Alan felt we should aim high with gradual implementation of increases, keep the options of additional savings (i.e. 401 Plan), and make the various retirement plans within the City more equitable. Total Compensation is the current con- straint. Total Comp is even impacting the recruitment of job applicants. Applicants are often less willing to move from private business to the City employment because it often means a reduction in the salaries and benefits being offered. Jerry's feelings were that Total Compensation is a very large constraint and that 1-1/2% would be the maximum contribution rate increase employees would tolerate. (He used as a guideline the responses to the GERC post -Education Program survey, which showed the bulk of respondents would agree to increases of 1% to 2%.) He noted that employees should be encouraged to save and be provided with education so that they understand the Plan. CONCLUSIONS/NEXT STEPS: Russ will summarize the discussion of today's meeting and provide a list of questions to be discussed at the next meeting. aci: GERC Minutes - Corrected May 30, 1996 3. DISCUSSION WITH CITY MANAGER JOHN FISCHBACH MAIN POINTS: City Manager John Fischbach joined the group at about 1:35 pm. The elements of the retirement philosophy the Committee has determined so far were discussed, along with the presentation to the Executive Lead Team (EL Team) and the EL Team's participation in the survey. John, speaking for the EL Team, confirmed that the Team members are concerned about the retirement benefits of their employees, but recognize that the GERC reports directly to City Council. Jerry noted that several of the EL Team members have expressed their desire that the GER Plan become a defined contribution -type of plan, feeling that it has a number of advantages for the City. However, this type of benefit can often be vulnerable to non -retirement uses by the employee. John also pointed out that the EL Team is reviewing budget requests, including the $850,000 request for a COLA for current retirees. Russ Proctor explained that while a defined benefit plan, such as the GER Plan, may be viewed as "parentalistic", it can also be considered good business. A good employer provides an adequate wage, training, medical insurance, and other benefits to its employees. That employer would logically provide a reasonable benefit for the normal progression for employee to retiree. The employee can move from a beginning employee to a trained, experienced employee, and ultimately to a retired employee. CONCLUSION/NEXT STEPS: The City Manager expressed his intent, and that of the EL Team, to work with the GER Committee to provide adequate retirement benefits for City employees. The members of the GER Committee were very pleased that the City Manager could attend. 4. DIALOGUE WITH MAYOR ANN AZARI MAIN POINTS: Mayor Ann Azari visited with the Committee at 2:25 p.m. Jerry asked her what other areas of the country are doing? She replied that the trend is to downsizing of programs and the number of employees in other municipalities, often because federal funding for programs is discontinued. She also said technology is being used to replace workers and privatization (using a private company to provide services/products previously provided by municipal workers) in certain areas is eliminating public sector jobs. The City of Fort Collins does not tend to implement programs that lay off large numbers of employees. CONCLUSION/NEXT STEPS: The Mayor would like to offer employees more choices in training, retraining, and job reassignment. She is very supportive of the Committee's work to examine the Plan and to consider changes. She left the meeting at about 3 pm. 5. NEXT MEETING DATE MAIN POINTS: There was discussion of holding an additional meeting or study session to continue the development of the philosophy. -4- GERC Minutes - Corrected May 30, 1996 CONCLUSIONS/NEXT STEPS: It was agreed that the next meeting would be as scheduled on July 11 (July 4th is a holiday) at 1:15 p.m. in the CIC Room. Russ will distribute his summary and list of questions by the week of June 17th and this item will be first on the July agenda. 6. ACTUARIAL FEES MAIN POINTS: Watson Wyatt provided a letter outlining the costs for providing various services related to the survey and development of philosophy. CONCLUSIONS/NEXT STEPS: The consensus was that the Committee would not proceed with compiling the EL Team surveys, items 4 and 5 are on hold, a decision on item 6 is pending. The philosophy development will take about two more meetings, so that charge was accepted. Jerry will inform Dave Agee, who is monitoring the contract, of these decisions. 7. FIRST QUARTER INVESTMENT REPORT MAIN POINTS: The final version of the First Quarter, 1996, Investment Report was presented. CONCLUSION/NEXT STEPS: The report had been accepted in draft form. No further action is required. S. PERSONAL RETIREMENT PLANNING STATEMENTS (PRPS) & INFORMATION ARTICLE ON SOCIAL SECURITY MAIN POINTS: Questions may be generated by the new Personal Retirement Planning Statements, which will be distributed with paychecks on June 7th. This revised form now contains information about the 401(a) money purchase plan and 457 deferred compensation plan contributions, as well as the GERP and Social Security benefits traditionally included. They also contain a sentence referring to the age at which an employee can begin receiving full Social Security benefits. Traditionally this has been age 65, but recent legislation has changed the age, linking it to date of birth. Sue suggested that an article be written for Fort Notes or the Health and Benefits Newsletter explaining the changes implemented in Social Security that will affect the age at which recipients can retire and receive full benefits. CONCLUSIONS/NEXT STEPS: The Health and Benefits Newsletter seemed the most appropriate place for such an article. Russ will provide some information and Sue and Laurie will draft the article with additional information from Social Security. The results of a short survey attached to the new PRPS forms will be discussed at next month's meeting. -5- GERC Minutes - Corrected May 30, 1996 AGENDA 1 SCHEDULE FOR NEXT MEETING The next meeting will be July llth at 1:15 p.m. in the Council Information Center (CIC) of City Hall West. The agenda will include: 1. Plan Member/Citizen Comments 2. Farewell to Dave Meyer and Welcome New GERC Member 3. Continued Discussion of Retirement Plan Philosophy 4. Election of New Vice Chairperson 5. Evaluate the Process/Review Survey Results: "Personal Retirement Planning Statements" 6. Potential Enhancements/Changes to GERP 7. Draft of Social Security Article ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 3:35 p.m. FUTURE MEETING SCHEDULE: PLEASE NOTE: Because of the July 4th holiday, the July GERC meeting will be on Thursday, July llth at 1:15 pm in the CIC. The General Employees Retirement Committee normally meets at 1:15 p.m. on the 1st Thursday of each month in the Council Information Center, City Hall West. THURSDAY, JULY 11, 1996* THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 5, 1996 THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 7, 1996 THURSDAY, AUGUST 1, 1996 THURSDAY, OCTOBER 3, 1996 THURSDAY, DECEMBER 5, 1996 *Rescheduled because of July 4th holiday