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HomeMy WebLinkAboutRetirement Committee - Minutes - 06/16/1998City of Fort Collins Retirement Plan 40 FORT COLLINS GENERAL EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT COMIMTITEE JUNE 16, 1998 INTERIM MEETING MINUTES COUNCIL LIAISON: Mayor Ann Azari COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT: Jim Hume, 221-6776 Dave Agee, 221-6681 Alan Krcmarik, 221-6788 Kevin Westhuis, 224-6156 Patti Teraoka, 221-6715 OTHERS PRESENT: Laurie Harvey (Staff Support - Human Resources) Greg Tempel (Staff Support - Legal) Bob Eichem (Staff Support - Investments) Sue Wilcox (Staff Support - Secretary) Beth Molenaar, Plan Member from Water Resources Tim Sagen, Plan Member from Light and Power CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Kevin Westhuis called the meeting to order at 1:35 p.m. in the Training Room at Light and Power, 700 Wood Street. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Because this is an interim meeting, no minutes were presented for approval. ADDITIONS TO AGENDA: Several items were added under Other Business. DISCUSSION TOPICS: 1. GER PLAN MEMBER(S) COMMENTS/CITIZEN PARTICIPATION: Kevin informed the members that Dennis Sumner, former GERC Chairperson commended the Committee for the work they are doing in bringing the DC/DB choice to the members and in making the lump -sum option available. Plan member Tim Sagen strongly urged the members to use caution in any actions that involved putting the current 401(a) MPP or the 457 Plan (both of which are currently handled through ICMA Retirement Corporation) out for bid. He felt that this is "employee's money", the current plans provide a large number of investment options, and that the ICMA Corporation is doing a good job and should be maintained. He also felt that if the management of these plans should be put to a bid at some time, present members should at least have the option of staying with the current plan provider. This seemed like a good opportunity to move to the agenda item dealing with the bid question. 300 LaPorte Avenue • P.O. Box 580 • Fort Collins, CO 80522-0580 • (970) 221-6788 • FAX (970) 221-6782 GERC Minutes - June 16, 1998 2. POSSIBLE BID PROCESS TO DETERMINE THE MPP PROVIDER MAIN POINTS Alan Krcmarik, Laurie Harvey, Kevin Westhuis, and Greg Tempel met with Tim O'Neill, Director of Purchasing to discuss this topic before a decision is made on creating a new money purchase plan (MPP). Alan outlined the following facts: A) the ICMA Retirement Corporation has never competed through a selection process for the administration of either the MPP or the deferred compensation plan. B) the City has a fiduciary responsibility for the funds in these plans, and C) both the State and City codes require bidding of these types of services. In addition he noted that just going through the bidding process does not guarantee that a new provider will be chosen, but it may mean that the same provider will make a combination of additional enhancements available and/or reduce costs for existing provisions. Laurie Harvey also noted that there are employees who strongly desire a more competitive entity, more services, and lower costs. The value of the client assets from City MPP, the Police Plan, the management plans, and deferred compensation plans is over $100 million, which is a sizable bargaining chip. It was pointed out that the GERC does not have the authority to make this decision. City staff is currently working to determine the feasibility of setting up a pension board for the Police officers' plan, which could make this type of decision for the Police plan. Such a pension board could also be a prototype for a replacement money purchase plan. Any decision regarding a competitive process for a plan provider will require additional GERC and staff work. Member input will be sought. CONCLUSIONS/NEXT STEPS Research and legal advice will be necessary before a decision can be made on this topic. The GERC will not pursue this any further at this time. 3. MEMBER REQUEST FOR CHANGE IN ROLLOVER CALCULATION MAIN POINTS: Beth Molenaar of the Water Resources Department asked that her rollover amount be recalculated using her actual income, rather than her pay rate on January 31, 1998. She explained that up until December 31, 1997 she was a full-time City employee, but that effective January 1, 1998, she had elected to reduce her position to 80% of full-time. Because the calculations were based on salaries in effect on January 31, 1999, this meant that her rollover amount was based on 80% of her actual salary. When this is compounded using the 4.5% salary increase and 7.5% interest earnings, the total is at least $1000 less than it would be based on her actual earnings. Had she known that these events would occur, she would have delayed her decision to reduce her hours. The Committee members explained how the calculations were done, and that the January 31, 1998, date was chosen to meet the implementation schedule with no intent to either enhance or degrade anyone's rollover amount. However, some employee rollover amounts may be enhanced or harmed by the decision. There was discussion of other employees who were in some way affected by the decision, for example, through acting pay, timing of pay increases, etc. Bob Eichem expressed concern that making some exceptions might cast a hardship on the those remaining in the GER Plan. Concern was expressed that making an exception would set a precedent for others seeking a change. It was also pointed out that the Committee might benefit from some legal advice. GERC Minutes - June 16, 1998 • CONCLUSION/NEXT STEPS: Kevin Westhuis moved that an executive session be called in order to receive legal advice, since a quorum was present. Jim Hume seconded the motion, which was approved unanimously. At the end of the executive session Dave Agee moved that the Committee return to open session. Jim Hume seconded the motion, which passed unanimously. The Committee was not inclined to make an exception at this time, but did ask Laurie and Russ Proctor of Watson Wyatt (actuarial firm) to prepare a list of employees who moved from full-time to part-time positions in 1998. Also included should be any employees whose pay raise was effective in January, 1998, but which was not reflected on the payroll tape of January 31, 1998. This issue will be reviewed further at the regular July 9th meeting. 4. CONSIDER DELAYING JULY 31 SELECTION DEADLINE MAIN POINTS: At its June 4' meeting, the GERC considered delaying the current July 31, 1998 deadline for making the DB/DC selection. This was discussed because some Plan members were concerned that potential changes due to the Compensation and Classification Study, which are expected in August, could affect their future income and thus their conversion from the GERP to the replacement money purchase plan decisions. At that time the GERC chose to stay with the July 31 date. It is expected that the City Council will consider the pay and classification changes on first reading at their August 4`" meeting. There was discussion of the expected course of events leading up to Council consideration and these points made on June 4'" were reiterated: 1) no connection exists between the timing of the conversion option selection and finalizing the Compensation and Classification Study; 2) there is no guarantee of future raises for anyone (relating to fears about frozen salaries); and 3) if salaries are frozen, no one knows how long the freeze will last, as that depends on the job market. The major concern with delaying the selection deadline is compressing the time available to make the necessary administrative changes before January 1, 1999. Other considerations include delaying implementation to March, 1999 and the implementation schedule for the payroll portion of the new financial system. CONCLUSION/NEXT STEPS: After discussion, Kevin moved and Patti Teraoka seconded his motion to change the conversion selection deadline from July 31" to Friday, August 14, 1998 at 5:00 p.m., with all ballots being received in the Human Resources Office by that time. The motion carried on a vote of 4-1, with Tim Hume dissenting. 5. PRESENT VALUE OF THE ACTUARY'S GERP VALUATION MAIN POINTS: Kevin had requested information from the actuary (Watson Wyatt) on how to calculate the present value of the GERP lump sum at a future date in the following situation: a member opted to stay in the GERP, worked four more years, and then separated from the GER Plan. It was noted that the personal statements did include calculations at 5 year increments from the present. CONCLUSION/NEXT STEPS: Mark Sanford of Watson Wyatt was able to supply a formula to complete this calculation for an employee at any age. Within 60 days, Laurie will also receive a revised software program that will allow her to give preliminary calculations of lump -sum amounts. GERC Minutes -June 16, i.d8 6. GENERAL PLAN CONVERSION OPTION DISCUSSIONS MAIN POINTS: There was discussion of the remaining presentations: Thursday, June 18'h at 7 am and 10 am at Lincoln Center Mini -Theater Tuesday, June 23'a at 9 am and 10:30 am at City Council Chambers and two additional presentations which are open to anyone: Thursday, June 25`s at 10:30 am and 1:30 p.m. Transfort, 6570 Portner Road Laurie and Sue received a request from the Library Director for a special presentation for her personnel who are unable to attend one of the regular sessions. Since additional presentations are $750 each, the members suggested that library staff be provided with the schedule of remaining presentations, along with an offer to show the videotaped presentation and have a GERC member or staff person to answer questions at a time convenient for them. Sue will contact Ms Cares. Bob explained the process of liquidating GERP investments before they are moved to the replacement MPP accounts. If a new MPP Plan is required, there may be a lockout period of 30- 35 days when these assets would be in a fixed income investment and not accessible by individuals for designation to specific types of investments. If it is determined that the GERP funds can be rolled over to the existing ICMA Retirement Corporaton MPP, then this holding period may not be necessary. Alan received a reply from ICMA Retirement Corporation which stated that they believe it is possible to have one money purchase plan (MPP) with different contribution rates and having contributions from two distinct sources. However, they advised the GERC to have this confirmed by its own outside legal counsel. The City Attorney's Office is in the process of securing confirmation from a pension attorney specialist. Russ Proctor and Mark Sanford will provide a copy of the rollover projection software to Laurie, Kevin and Bob. When it is received, Tim Hume will send this information to plan members via email. The GERC discussed the situation of employees who do not participate in the 3% City matching program who, therefore, do not have a 401 MPP account. Laurie presented a list prepared by Watson Wyatt showing that there may be more than 100 Plan members whose present value of their accrued benefit is larger than (or almost as large as) the theoretical account transfer balance. It appears that these are mostly longer -term employees who are 40 years old or older. Kevin will ask Russ if it's possible to show dollar amounts for these individuals and to ask Russ how this occurred. This may be a topic for future discussion. CONCLUSION/NEXT STEPS: As defined above. 7. DEFERRED VESTED PLAN MEMBERS AND UNCLASSIFIED MANAGERS MAIN POINTS: Laurie explained that there is a small group of unclassified managers who have a deferred vested benefit. Because they have a deferred vested benefit, they are eligible for the lump -sum provision of the Plan. Although they are still City employees, they currently participate GERC Minutes - JuneR, 1998 is in a different retirement plan. While they are welcome to attend any of the conversion option information meetings, they are not eligible to vote or roll over their GERP benefit. CONCLUSION/NEXT STEPS: Russ will be asked to do the lump -sum calculations for these individuals and they will receive the same information and choices as the other deferred vested employees and former employees. Laurie will send them an email message providing some information and letting them know that a detailed letter will be forthcoming. Kevin provided a draft of the letter and Laurie and Greg provided some editing. Kevin and Sue will work on sending out the letter by July IUh. Laurie Harvey will be in touch with Joyce Clifton to work out the details of her lump sum/transfer request. AGENDA & SCHEDULE FOR NEXT MEETING The next meeting will be Thursday, July 9th at 1:15 pm in the Council Information Center (CIC) of City Hall West. The agenda will include: I. Plan Member Comments/Citizen Participation 2. Update of DC/DB Program activities - Followup with those who didn't attend. 3. Eligibility for Benefits of Disabled Vested members/Bruce Michael's Application 4. QDROs procedure and forms finalized 5. W W W contract discussion 6. Use of year-end pay rates on PRPS 7. Varying future GERC meeting sites 8. Beth Molenaar's request for recalculation 9. Regular Investment Review 10. Other Business ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 4:04 p.m. GERC/GERP WEB PAGE ADDRESS: www. ci.fort-collins.co.us/CITY_HALL/BOARDS_COMMISSIONS/RETUtEMENT, mdex.htm GERC M'mutes - June 16, i;.48 FUTURE MEETING SCHEDULE: The General Employees Retirement Committee normally meets at 1:15 p.m. on the I st Thursday of each month in the Council Information Center, City Hall West. THURSDAY, JULY 9, 1998" THURSDAY, AUGUST 6 1998 THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 3, 1998 THURSDAY, OCTOBER 1, 1998 THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 5, 1998 THURSDAY, DECEMBER 3, 1998