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HomeMy WebLinkAboutGolf Board - Minutes - 01/19/1983• CITY OF FORT COLLINS PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT GOLF ADVISORY BOARD MINUTES: Regular Meeting, January 19, 1983 The meeting was called to order at 7:35 P.M. by Chairman, Tom Skillman. Bill Basow volunteered to replace Sandy Bickel as Secretary until the election of a new secretary later in the meeting. Member Eileen Banks is absent because of a family conflict, so Alternate, Dick Zubradt was given voting status. Chairman Skillman introduced Councilman John Knezovich. Mr. Knezovich is the City Council representative to the Golf Board, and we are very pleased to have him attend. After Agenda Review, Chairman Skillman introduced John F. Drescher, who has been appointed to the Golf Board replacing Sandy Bickel who resigned. His term expires July 1, 1985. The minutes of the November 17, 1982 meeting were approved unanimously, as submitted. Election of Board Secretary Bill Basow was unanimously elected Board Secretary. Citizen Participation At the request of the Board, staff prepared an Agenda Review and Citizen Participation policy, similar to the one used by City Council. Citizen participation is limited to 20 minutes, and is designed for items not specifically on the agenda. Speakers are asked to be brief, to the point, and limit their comments to five minutes; and other speakers are asked not to duplicate comments. All remarks should be germane to the immediate subject. Nine senior citizens attended the meeting. Mr. Jim Wagner voiced his concern about a larger fee increase for Annual Passes for Seniors than for other pass categories. Board member, Jim Mitchell, explained that the Board tried to establish an equitable fee policy so that each pass holder would pay a fair share on a percentage figure. Al Woodruff asked why you had to join both courses. Mr. Mitchell stated from a stand- point of economics and administration it was thought it would be more efficient. Tom Skillman said that many golfers that he and Dick Zubradt talked to thought it was a good idea. Mr. Skillman also stated that most other towns have a subsidy from the General Fund to help support their golf courses. Through 1982, the Golf Fund in Fort Collins had received around $30,000 per year in Revenue Sharing, but starting in 1983 there is no subsidy. Golf has been directed to be 100% self-supporting. This money, as well as the cost of capital items and inflation, has to be made up from golfers. Dick Graef asked exactly how the senior citizen rate was arrived at. Jim Mitchell stated that the amount of play was considered, as well as the relationship of seniors to other pass holders and green fees, and the amount of discount that seemed appropriate. Many factors were considered (as stated in staff reports, letters and memorandums on this topic) and the Fee Structure Committee, Golf Board, and City Council had all agreed. Mr. Wagner called the staff data a fraud, and stated staff had lied. He said the Parks and Recreation should run prisons rather than Parks and Recreation. After much more discussion, explanation, and comments by Councilman Knezovich, Chairman Skillman, Board members and audience, the Citizen Participation portion of the meeting concluded at 8:25 P.M. All the seniors left the meeting at this time. Mr. Wagner reinterated his feelings about lies, fraud and the penitentiary - style thinking of the Parks and Recreation staff. Collindale Concession After review of the staff report, and some discussion, the Board, on a motion by Jim Mitchell, seconded by Dick Zubradt, voted unanimously to approve the staff recommendation of awarding the Collindale Concession contract to Derek Cordova for 1983, with an option for 1984. Special Privileges Policy Due to the length of the agenda and the time involved with Citizen Participation, this item was postponed until the February meeting, where it will be the first item for consideration. Proposal for Fairway Marker/Advertising Signs The proposal from Fairways Marketing Corporation of Denver, which the Board con- ceptually approved at the October meeting, has been withdrawn. Staff and Pete Ruggiero, Deputy City Attorney, met with Fairways Marketing people in December. Fairways substantially changed its proposal, asking us for exclusive advertising control for ten years, and the removal of all existing golf course advertising. This was unacceptable and could not be negotiated. Other Business - Jerry P. Brown explained his memorandum to City Manager, John Arnold, regarding Senior Citizen Annual Pass golf fees. Several potential options were discussed, and it was suggested by someone that the Board consider offering a survey to seniors, including all previous season pass holders, to determine whether there would be support for a reduced senior rate/limited-play pass. After further discussion of all options, the Board, on a motion by Jim Mitchell, seconded by Bill Zech, voted 5:1 (Bill Basow was out of the room at this time) to leave the Senior Citizen fee at the adopted $190 rate, and make no changes. Jerry P. Brown talked about the 3/4t sales tax issue, which will be on the March 8th City election ballot. The City will provide a brochure explaining the uses for the money, with Pro and Con continents, maintaining an objective, information - oriented posture. Loss of the sales tax money could have an indirect effect on the Golf Fund, i.e., potential increased transfer charges, compliance with City general budget restrictions, personnel cutback, etc. Board members will receive copies of the brochure. Councilman Knezovich also briefly addressed this topic. - Neil Johnson mentioned that Collindale has gone to temporary greens, and we might have to restrict the usage of golf carts, as well. Correspondence/Financial and Statistical Reports Memorandum to Neil Johnson and Dave Sadler, complimenting them and Bill Metier and Jim Greer, for their outstanding job on the 1982 golf cart program. -2- - letters to the City from C.S.U. track coach, Doug Max, thanking us for their cross-country meets at Collindale. - letter from the U.S.G.A. regarding the Green Section Mid -Continent Region Conference on March 7th in Denver. - memorandums with Proposed Scheduled meeting dates in 1983, and Board Attendance during 1982. It was noted that Bill Zech had a perfect attendance record in 1982, attending all meetings. - December financial/statistical reports show around 90,000 rounds were played in 1982, expenses totaled 97% of budget, and revenues totaled 111% of projections (108.5% in Operating Revenues). - Board members received copies of letters to and from Mr. Karl F. Manke, and to and from Mr. Carl Bales, written by staff. The meeting adjourned at 9:35 P.M. Respectfully submitted, BILL BASOW, Secretary (Assisted by Bill Metier) MEETING ATTENDANCE Board Members Staff Tom Skillman Jerry P. Brown Bill Basow Neil Johnson Dick Zubradt Bill Metier Jim Mitchell Jim Greer Carl Kansala Bill Zech John F. Drescher Guests John B. Knezovich Anna Zier Dick Graef Paul Lawrey Charles Corzatt Joe P. Cook Albert Woodruff Carl Bales Jake Mill Jim Wagner George Sheros (?) -3-