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HomeMy WebLinkAboutGolf Board - Minutes - 06/16/1982• 0 FORT COLLINS PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT GOLF ADVISORY BOARD JUPJ 2)J I� MINUTES: Regular meeting, June 16, 1982 G+ii :RK The meeting was called to order at 7:35 p.m. in the Conference Room of the Parks Maintenance Center with Tom Skillman presiding. Since regular Board member Sandy Bickel was not at the meeting, Alternate Bill Basow was recog- nized by the Chair as having voting status. The minutes of the May 19, 1982, meeting were approved unanimously on a motion by Jim Mitchell and seconded by Kathy bohmont. Shawn Donovan, Dave Sadler's assistant, was introduced. INTRODUCTION OF NEW/RETURNING BOARD MEMBERS Richard D. Zubradt is the new Board member. He assumes the position of Alternate, with his term expiring July 1, 1984. Bill Basow was appointed as a regular board member. Eileen'Banks was reappointed. Both of their terms expire July 1, 1986. The board expressed their appreciation to Kathy Bohmont for her service on the Golf Adivsory board. COMMITTEE REPORTS tructure Committee Jerry Brown explained that the play records data was not yet ready for the Fee Structure Committee to review. The intern that had been compiling the data had quit and Jerry now has someone else working on it. The data should be available for the Committee prior to the next board meeting. Jerry Brown pointed out that many inconsistencies have been found in the play records since this project began (many non -valid names, many non -valid numbers, many names did not match numbers). Jim Mitchell questioned whether we should pursue the fee structure issues at the Committee level or if we should bring it back to the Board. He was con- cerned that there might be a duplication of effort and that more Board members wanted to be involved in the preliminary discussions. Tom Skillman feels the preliminary discussions will be more effective at the Committee level. bill Basow also feels the Committee should continue, with its function to use the data to make recommendations to the Board. The Committee will continue and will make recommendations to the board. Golfers Survey bill Basow distributed the survey. He reviewed the changes that were incor- porated as a result of recommendations made at the May 19, 1982, meeting. 2 There was a discussion on the distribution of the survey forms. Bill Basow suggested distributing them on one week day and one weekend day in a desig- nated week in July. The concensus was that the surveys needed to be available for more than two days. Jerry Brown suggested they be distributed for one week, starting on a Sunday, until they are gone. Kathy bohmont offered to distribute them at the Women's Golf Association meeting. The board felt this would preclude a representative sampling of the golfing public. There was a discussion about putting either handicap or average score on the survey. Bill Metier feels that the better golfer (low -handicapper) is better qualified to make judgments about the condition of the golf course. It was agreed to put average score ranges on the survey. Eileen Banks suggested changing the time interval from month to week on ques- tion H5 which asks how often the golfer plays. It was agreed to make this change. Bill Basow moved that distribution of the surveys begin on a Sunday in July, to be picked up by the golfers, and continue until 500 for each golf course are gone. Carl Kansala seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. The details for implementing distribution of the survey will be worked out between Jerry brown and Bill Basow. The Board appreciated the fine job done by Bill Basow on the survey. SHOWING "ID" CARDS Jerry Brown said he does not have a lot of data, but he has a "gut" feeling about cheating that occurs with annual passes. He also said there are mem- bers of City Council who are still concerned about non-residents buying annual passes or paying resident green fees. Jerry Brown said there are two types of identification to be discussed: 1. Fort Collins resident identification - for the purchase of annual passes and payment of resident green fees. 2. Annual Pass Card - to ensure that those signing in with a number are, indeed, current annual pass holders. Bill Metier feels it would be impossible, with current level of staffing, to check every annual pass card and/or driver's license. He feels if the staff had to check ID's for all players, play would become so backed -up that little would be accomplished. Jerry brown suggested that random checks of identification would be effective. Tom Skillman suggested putting up signs that would let the players know that they may need to show passes or driver's licenses. Jim Greer and Bill Metier agreed to do spot checks. Jim Mitchell pointed out that the question of selling annual passes to non- residents continues to come up. He feels we should continue to sell passes to anyone with a Fort Collins address, even if they are not within the City limits. I ELECTION OF OFFICERS FOR 1982-83 3 Jerry Brown explained that the bylaws require the election of a Chairman, Vice Chairman and Secretary each year during the June meeting of the Golf Advisory Board. The Alternate member is not eligible to hold office. Chairman. Jim Mitchell nominated Tom Skillman for Chairman. Bill Zech seconded the nomination. Jim Mitchell moved that nominations be closed. Kathy Bohmont seconded the motion. Tom Skillman was unanimously elected Chairman of the Golf Advisory Board. Vice Chairman. Bill Zech nominated Jim Mitchell for Vice Chairman. Carl Kansala seconded the nomination. Bill Basow nominated Eileen Banks for Vice Chairman. Jim Mitchell seconded the nomination. 6ith no further nominations, the Board voted by ballot. Eileen Banks was elected Vice Chairman of the Golf Advisory Board. Secretary. Eileen Banks nominated Bill Basow for Secretary. Bill Basow declined the nomination. Jim Mitchell nominated Sandy Bickel. Bill Basow seconded the motion. With no further nominations, Sandy Bickel was unanimously elected Secretary of the Golf Advisory board. OTHER BUSINESS Jerry Brown announced that City Council would like to meet with the board on Tuesday, July 6. The board will be notified of the time later. Items to be discussed are: 1. Impact of loss of revenue sharing on capital expenditure allocation 2. Financial condition of the Golf Fund 3. Impact of Southridge Golf Course 4. Surcharge Tom Skillman said we may have to have a special meeting of the Board prior to meeting with City Council. Southridge Golf Course Jerry Brown distributed correspondence concerning Southridge Golf Course at the beginning of the meeting. The bucain Corporation intends to proceed with construction of the Southridge Golf Course. They want the City to issue bonds, which they will buy, to build the golf course. They propose to sell the course to the City and then lease it back from the City for a period of 30 years for an annual amount equal to ; the principal and interest on the note. The golf course would always be public. Jim Mitchell moved that the Golf Board support the proposal, subject to review of the final document. Carl Kansala seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. Jerry brown mentioned that some private developers are considering construction of a "Par 3" executive golf course south of Fort Collins. 4 Loveland now has a Golf Advisory Board, which is advisory to staff, not to City Council. They are looking at private concession and management of the course. Jerry Brown mentioned that letters of appreciation had been sent to Ella Blanchard and Vera Chilcott of RSVP. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS Jim Mitchell feels we need to tell City Council that we must have capital expenditure money in our budget. bill Zech feels that for the Board to really understand the operation and problems of the golf courses that the members need to spend time at the courses observing the operation. Dick Zubradt agrees with Bill Zech. He also feels that if we want to check everyone for ID's, we will have to computerize the operation. Kathy bohmont reported that a bike path is being worn at Collindale from the Medema Homes to Warren Park. She also reported that some City officials had brought liquor onto Collindale Golf Course. She declined to elaborate on the incident. Eileen Banks said that Jerry Brown does an outstanding job providing support to the Board and wanted the minutes to reflect this. The Board unanimously agreed that Jerry does an excellent job and the Board appreciates his efforts. Tom Skillman referred to the article, "Future of Golf", that the Board received at the last meeting. He hopes all Board members read it. He would like to discuss this article at a future meeting. At 9:20 p.m. the meeting was turned over to Dave Sadler who conducted a tour of the City Park Nine Maintenance Facility. He described the various pieces of equipment, their uses, special maintenance problems and condition of the equipment. Jerry Brown pointed out that the golf course has only a small portion of the space in this facility and that the Parks Department needs the space; thus, the need to eliminate storage of private carts at City Park Nine. The meeting adjourned at 9:40 p.m. Respectfully Submitted, EILEEN BANKS, Secretary Eileen Banks Bill Basow Kathy Bohmont Carl Kansala Jim Mitchell Tom Skillman Bill Zech Dick Zubradt Staff Jerry Brown Shawn Donovan Jim Greer Bill Metier Dave Sadler