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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSenior Advisory Board - Minutes - 01/08/1986P CITY OF FORT COLLINS OFFICE OF EMPLOYEE DEVELOPMENT Minutes for Senior Board Meeting Members Present Yetta Rollin Mildred Arnold Pat Long Martha Bartlett Paula Makowsky Joe Campanella Ruby Lynch Patti Raco Suzanne Jarboe -Simpson, January 8, 1986 Members Absent Dwight Saunders Norman Wynn Margaret Tremper Guests Kelly Ohlson, Assistant Mayor Robert Bakken, Poudre Valley Hospital City Staff Luanna Ackerman, Director of Eldertiaus Susan Pedersen, Dir. Area Office of Aging Charlotte Kanode, Handicapped Info. Office Betty Moseley, Continuum of Care Coalition Ed Chilcott, SILO Chairman The regular monthly meeting of the Senior Advisory Board was called tc order at 1:35 p.m. by Ruby Lynch, Acting Chair. Minutes of the previous meeting were approved. Kelly Ohlson had received a letter from the City street maintenance department in response to previously expressed concerns about the new bus shelter at the DMA Plaza. The shelter was built higher than the curb for drainage purposes, but the slope will be modified for easier access and kept cleared of snow and sanded for safety. The slope modification will be done by the end of January. Additional concerns of snow removal and blocked access to sideways from snow grading were addressed. Kelly will inform City street personnel of blocked pedestrian access to some sidewalks as a result of accumulated snow between streets and sidewalks. DEVELOPMENT I Mildred Arnold introduced guest speaker, Bob Bakken, Administrator of Poudre Valley Hospital since 1979. Mr. Bakken presented background information about health care services in Fort Collins and then responded to questions on several topics that had been addressed to him in an earlier letter from the Board. He spoke of the rapid pace in the health care field, which has moved from the family practice orientation towards specialized or subspecialist orientation, e.g., cardiology, oncology. With this focus, the community hospital has responded with less referrals to Denver and with upgraded technological services. Following are specific topics discussed by Mr. Bakken. Hospital policy on treatment of the low income. Poudre Valley Hospital does not discriminate against anyone of any race, creed, residency or income status. All will receive medical care and the hospital will worry about costs later. This is not to say that collections are not aggressively pursued. In re: free care, government programs do not pay the full share for medicare and medically indigent patients, but whatever is paid is considered payment in full. Those not covered must be "qualified" to determine if they fall under charity care. If so, the hospital forgoes the bill. Poudre Valley Hospital has an $150,000 per month deficit for charity, medicare, medicaid and medically indigent patient treatment. Of these, patients who have assets but do not want to pay, collections are actively pursued. The " no assets" guidelines is the same guideline as the State for medically indigent, i.e., income, number of dependent, on a time -by -time basis. Applicants must reapply for this consideration each time they are admitted, or they can reapply as an outpati ent. Availability and Cost of Ambulance Service. Ambulance service which emanates from the hospital is the responsibility of the hospital, and users are changed for this service. However, subsidies are required by the hospital as all charges received do not cover the cost of qualified paramedics, ambulances, and related expenses. The changes are based on different grades and seriousness of the user's illness. Medicare does not pay the $60 flat fee that is charged those covered by Medicare. If an ambulance is called, but is not needed to bring the person to the hospital, charges are only for paramedic services used. The $60 fee for medicare users compares is %5 of private ambulance services. Hospital's Current Building Program, Laying Off of Skilled Nurses The building program is a modernization of these areas: a.) critical care unit, based on present deficiencies b.) kitchen and dining room facilities enlarged and updated c.) obstetrical area, because of increased number of births and treating of more ill infants locally rather than transferring them to Denver. The modernization also includes changing the front entrance of the hospital to align with parking near the entrance. The elevators, admitting, and gift shop will be relocated nearby. The modernization is necessary to reflect the changing needs of the public that the hospital serves. The nursing staff has undergone recent changes, with thirteen L.P.N.'s laid off and an adjustment of more R.N.'s to cover the work load. Attrition alone could not cover the gap, so because of the building modernization with necessarily lower occupancy, this was staff. Hospital Board Meetings Board meetings are open to the public, and even though they are open, there i An agenda is available to the public on from Mr. Bakken's office. The agenda is but does not always appear. e. Lack of Trained Personnel good time to adjust the nursing s every third Wednesday at 1:00 p.m. generally low public attendance. the Monday prior to the meetings, also distributed to the newspaper, There are more professional staff with more R.N.'s on the nursing staff than ever before, a 60/40 ratio of R.N.'s/L.P.N.'s. Critical Care utilizes only R.N.'s. The hospital uses criteria specific evaluations and intensive on -going training programs. The nursing staff receives highest ratings from patients and staff. As patients are discharged increasingly earlier from critical care unit by their physicians, there must be a corresponding increase of on -floor staff to consider the activity of patients. Early Dismissals There is current debate on whether or not to dismiss patients earlier, as the federal government changes medicare specifications and guidelines. Medicare payments are based on a flat fee according to the diagnosis, and hospital staff works with doctors as to whether a patient will be discharged within or beyond the time limits of medicare coverage. Poudre Valley Hospital has a staff person who daily visits floors and talks with doctors about patients at "high end" of stay to check with their plans for discharge and alternate care. In discussion, Mildred spoke of a growing concern of the lack of alternative places for some patients who are dismissed early. Mr. Bakken pointed to the difficulty of judging "how early is too early" and of the need to continue good communication between hone care agencies, such as Home Helps and Visiting Nurses Association. Susan Pedersen offered the services of the Health Committee from the Office on Aging to do a study for Poudre Valley and McKee hospitals on patient discharge readiness and care alternatives for a physical condition rather than the psychological readiness to go hone and be able to care for themselves. Patti suggested a senior advocate to work with the hospital's discharge planner as an ongoing program. Mr. Bakken welcomed suggestions for further study. Fees Charged by a Public Hospital A public (community) hospital must realize a profit in order to buy equipment, remain updated in training, supplies, and facilities. In response to a question of members of a doctor's consortium refusing to take Medicare Patients, Mr. Bakken replied that through the family practice residency training program, the hospital will not turn down patients requesting medical care. As a public hospital, there is no option of whether or not to take patients. Joe remarked that Medicare funding seems backwards, doctors should pay the hospital in order to practice there and then charge the government for services rendered to Medicare recipients. Mr. Bakken stated that there presently are no provisions to sanction doctors for refusing patients. Furthermore he said, patients may to be treated as inpatients without having a doctor. Without a designated doctor, a patient cannot be admitted for inpatient treatment. A doctor may treat someone but not accept medicare assignment and so will bill and collect directly from the patient. Other Business: The Continuum of Care Coalition meets at 3:00 p.m. January 9 at the American Baptist Church. Ed Chilcott reported that the SILC Task Force feels that letter writing to legislators was successful as there is a push in the direction of setting limits on insurance awards in lawsuits. Suzanne told of a December 20th concern and a new concerted effort to legally contain limits of awards and place caps on insurance premiums. Mr. Chilcott also reported that the REACH weatherization program has new information and qualifying guidelines available in a brochure, and coautioned that old brochures contain outdated guidelines. Mild red reported that the Post Office/RSVP Carrier Alert program that originated for elderly persons in rural mail areas has been extended to city routes. Pat Long reported that the CDRG meeting was postponed until Thursday, January 9. The Senior Citizen City Property Tax Work -Off Program will take applications jointly with the County Program at the Courthouse from 9:00 J t a.m, to 11:30 a.m, the last week in January and the first week in February. Printed information on guidelines is available. Articles are needed for the Senior Service Finder. Ruby reminded members to complete information for the LEAP packets and return them to Public Service Company by January 15. Paula will send a thank you letter to Mr. Bakken for speaking with Board members and guests. Meeting adjourned at 3:45 p.m. Respectfully submitted by: Paula Makowsky, Secretary