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PARKING ADVISORY BOARD
REGULAR
Monday, September 14, 2020 5:30 PM
Zoom meeting
09/14 /2020 – MINUTES
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1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair, Hill, called the meeting to order at 5:32 pm.
2. ROLL CALL
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT: CITY STAFF PRESENT
Nora Hill, Chair Drew Brooks, Director of Transit
Kayla Utter, Vice Chair Danna Varnell, Business Support
Adam Eggleston
Barbara Wilkins
Dorothy Spivak
Austin Hoenig
BOARD MEMBERS ABSENT: NONE
PUBLIC PRESENT: NONE
OTHERS IN ATTENDANCE: NONE
a. APPROV AL OF MINUTES – Motion to approve minutes by Eggleston,
second by Hoenig. The board unanimously approved minutes.
3. UNFINISHED BUSINESS - NONE
4. NEW BUSINESS –
a. Paid on-street parking – Hill
The biggest project we wanted to get accomplished this year was to
implement a paid pilot program for the downtown area. How can we
move forward and get that accomplished? Eggleston – it may be a
good time now to implement something because of less traff ic
because of Covid19. We might want to begin with Linden Street as
we reconfigure that street. It may put more stress on those
businesses though. We could set expectations from the beginning.
Council Liaison: Ken Summers
Chair: Nora Hill
Vice Chair: Kayla Utter
Staff Liaison: Drew Brooks (970) 221-6386
Administrative Support: Danna Varnell (970) 224-6161
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Hill - Our biggest question to Parking Services is how this will be
economically sustainable. Brooks – we recently did a presentation to
the council finance committee focusing on the current parking
situation, we let them know that this was a problem prior to Covid19,
and the finance committee has some of our longer-term members.
Atteberry has said that we will need to have a work session next year
to put this on the council’s radar to get the newer council members
up to speed. In April we are due to have new council members so
maybe at that time when we can present this to them and get them
up to speed. And we will also have the data to present to them.
Obviously, Covid19 is the determining factor on how quickly we can
move on this because the data will not be from a normal period. On
street parking is typically priced higher than in a parking garage. In
some cities it can be up to 50% higher to park on-street verses a
parking garage. We need to have a conversation and work on right
sizing that. Eggleston – if the Council said yes, let us do paid
parking, I noticed in the budget for 2021, it has 2.6 million dollars
allocated to parking, is that enough funds to implement paid parking?
Brooks – we can all agree that we will not be putting parking meters
on the street, it is going to be something else. Whether is a pay
station at the end of the block or something else or app based. There
are many people who will not use or cannot use an app-based
program. There is no budget set aside for this and I cannot imagine
this happening next year. Utter – is there anything we can do to
facilitate this along? Should we be working on a paid parking
proposal next year? We should be working on this sooner rather than
later. Hill – it seems like we could not even have a pilot this year
even with Covid19. What do we need to do to get a pilot program
going? What are the steps and what is the budget process, where is
the money coming from and what kind of technology do is required?
Brooks – I agree, we need to know what the costs are upfront.
Another thing is we have many folks who are resistant to this. We
need to start reaching out to those folks. I believe this Board would
be a good resource to start mitigating their concerns. Wilkins – paid
parking is the last of the things to be done and we talked about this
for several years. We discussed changing the enforcement hours
and at that time there were two enforcement officers in a vehicle.
Brooks – back then, we did not have enough vehicles, but now that
is not the issue now. The issue now is that prior to Covid19, we lost
two enforcement officers, they left the industry and now we are in a
hiring freeze, so we will not be able to hire for those two positions in
2021 so adjusting the hours. Our goal was to hire those two
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positions for nights and weekends. We are stretched very thin right
now.
Eggleston – what is the probability of Darin to join our Parking
Advisory Board meetings so we can get him on board with this plan?
Brooks – Kelly DiMartino is the point person now and she has been
highly involved with the DDA/DBA over the last few years. Utter – I
think that is a really good idea and if we project to them how long it
has taken to get this far. We need to get this moving immediately as
we have put this off long enough. We need to look what is ahead on
the horizon. Hill – first it should have a discussion on how paid on
street parking economically sustainable. How can we turn it right side
up, make the garages cheaper, and the street more expensive and
how can we make that economically sustainable? What would be
the budget and we know that falls on Transfort. So, there is our plan
on what the numbers will be. Then we have a pilot. First we have
sensor date and that will show us occupancy and we will compare
that to the parking plan and we can see where our occupancy falls
and would that trigger the plan to implement paid on street parking?
When might we get sensor data? Brooks – we should have actual
usable data by the end of the year. Hill – this data will still show
patterns, whether it is usable or not because the same patterns are
still happening within downtown, except for the late hour and the
numbers will be lower. Hoenig – will we have that model done by the
time the new council and the new mayor potentially come into office
se we can present it? I think this is a really good time to get this in
their minds quickly, it would be our biggest benefit. Hill – agrees
with Hoenig. Hill – we might not want to Linden for one specific
reason, I have a few concerns about some of the businesses on or
near that street. Utter – maybe we have Brooks and his team look at
some good options like something extremely near a parking garage
to see if people make the decision to go there. Propose a couple of
block faces that makes sense? Brooks – yes, we can do that.
Eggleston – with Elevations going in and it has limited parking, it
might be a good street to look at for this. Parking will get worse as
that building opens. Wilkins – the developer created a minimum of
two parking spots per tenant in the building. Hoenig – another street
that comes to mind is over near Ginger and Baker. They may be
more receptive to it. Even though they have that big dirt lot across
the street. Utter – I agree, they just did the renovation on W illow
street and that is an up and coming area. There are several good
options, so let us come up with a list and then let council pick a few
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ultimate ones. Eggleston – I have spoken with several of the
potential council members and it appears to be a sensitive topic for
them. Spivak – can someone explain to me briefly why paid parking
would be good. Hill – Parking downtown on a few blocks is super
congested and close to 100% during prime dining and shopping
hours. People want to come downtown and park. As it stands right
now, unless you come down at an odd time, or most recently, a
pandemic. With parking fees, we want to incentivize people who are
here for a long time to park in the garages or in remote lots. We want
someone who is for instance running in for an ice cream, having
dinner or shopping, to be able to feel confident that they will be able
to find a place to park within a block or two of their destination. We
want people who will be there for a longer term in the garages. The
two-hour free parking is not ideal. People who work downtown tend
to do the two-hour shuffle and move their cars around or employees
who work around parking enforcements hours which takes up
parking for patrons for the rest of the evening.
Utter – the ultimate goal is to get people to get to where they are
going that makes the most sense for them whether it’s parking on the
street if it’s a quick trip or parking in the garage if they are staying
long term. Even expanding it out even further, with like the Transit
Plan, at some point with the economics, it makes sense to take a bus
or the MAX downtown. But as long as parking is free in the most
convenient spots, all those incentives are misaligned and it’s hard for
us to manage the inventory that we have, it’s hard to incentivize
people to use public transportation or bike, when we don’t have the
tool of paid parking. So, everything is upside down. We need to get
the employees off the street and park in the garages. With extended
enforcement, if we cut off enforcement at 6 or 7 pm, that window
would close, and employees would have to do something else. One
of the main concerns for downtown merchants is that paid parking
would drive patrons away. Brooks to send out the 2013 and the 2017
parking plan so the PAB can read past and current plans. Utter – one
of the tools to manage the spread of the parking into the
neighborhoods is the RP3 program, which is the residential parking
permit program. This plan originated because of CSU students
parking in the residential areas. Neighborhoods can apply for this
program
Hill – do we want to present an economic plan on how we are going
to make paid parking sustainable to City Council? What time frame?
What are the charges going to be in the garage and on the street?
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Brooks – these are big questions. Do we want to break even or
make a profit and where would it go? Would the profit be used for
instance a parking garage beautification project, etc. We can pull
together some estimates. Eggleston – for a pilot program, based on
a lower budget for next year, is there a way for a paid parking vendor
to allow us to use their system for 6 months or a year, to see how it
would work? Hill – directed to Brooks, what type of timeline are we
looking at to get an economic plan. Brooks – we will need to get
some RFP’s from some vendors regarding costs. Or we could talk to
other cities that have on-street parking and look at it block per block.
Eggleston – I have heard that Loveland is looking to close their 4th
Street area and to do on-street paid parking to encourage people to
park in their new garage on 5th Street. Hill – can we get a plan by
next month a timeline for what a paid parking program will look like?
b. Bank parking lots – and how it is an underutilized resource. Hill tabled until
next meeting.
c. Paid parking – Hill tabled until next meeting.
d. 2019 City Plan and Transit Master Plan
Hill – Homework for next meeting. We have six sections in the
TMP and three line items in the City Plan. Homework – prepare a
summary of the section you are assigned, document any action
items we should review and if there are none, document how we fit
into that section or not. The Board is to email how we will fit into the
City Plan to all PAB members. Email your findings to the PAB group.
Eggleston will review City Plan, starts on page 90, Structure
Plan.
Hoenig to review the City Plan Chapter 1, Vision and Values.
Utter – Transit Master Plan, Existing Services and Community
Input.
Spivak - Transit Master Plan, Fort Collins 2040, page 28, How
will transit look in 2020. Page 43.
Wilkins - Transit Master Plan, 2040 Transit Plan.
e. How do we see ourselves as a Board? – Hill
Hill – we are currently a nine-person board. Do we need to be a
nine- person board or will a 7-person be sufficient? Brooks to
investigate the requirements and process to change it. Utter –
prefers 7 board members. Hill – let us find out if it is possible to make
it a seven-person board and we can vote on it at our next meeting.
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f. Work Plan
We did not get too much accomplished this year due to the lack of a
quorum at the beginning of the year and then with Covid19. Hill and
Utter will work on the Work Plan.
g. Parking citation updates - Brooks – (See year over year dashboard
presentation)
Enforcements – we are down about 18k in citations this year, which
is equal to about 55% less citations over last year. In March, we
were only issuing citations for public safety reasons, like parking in a
handicap space or parking next to a red curb, etc. In August,
enforcement ramped back up. We have begun to issue more
citations in the form of warnings as there is a six-month ticket reset
program in place. This allows citizens that have not had a ticket in six
months to reset their record.
Hill – what does that mean in dollars? Is the City concerned
about the loss of revenue? Brooks – it is minimal at this point.
As we have ramped up enforcement, he vast majority of the
citations written have been mostly warnings. As far as the loss
of revenue, yes, we certainly are concerned. Parking Services
acts much like a regular utility. We really do not make money
on parking. The money is used for operations and updates.
We have been able to use money from the general fund to
fund large projects, like the sensor project. Future updates
and projects could be a problem as the revenue has declined
due to Covid19. We have used funds from the general fund
this year to help with operations. We are encouraged by the
uptick in permit sales.
Curbside pickup – Brooks. Keselburg has been working with
Traffic Ops on updated signage. Our current signage is not
enforceable. We need to have traffic signs that meet the code
and can be enforced. We are working on this. I currently do
not have an update on this. Hill – this has been the third
meeting that we have discussed this. It appears that you are
not moving very quickly. Brooks - Keselburg is working with
the DDA since DBA is no longer a body. We will have more
information and updates on this at our next meeting. Wilkins –
businesses like Grub Hub are utilizing the curbside pickup on
our block. Spivak – it gamifies the way the system works and
the parking citations. Who are the people trying to outwit the
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system, what are the demographics of that group? Are they
office workers? Who parks downtown and what are the
characteristics of each group? Brooks – yes, there are office
people. From the industry, it changes the dynamic quite a bit
as it comes down to how much you want to pay. It can be
confusing to a visitor. For residents who are familiar with the
system, can play the parking game. It is very difficult to
incentivize someone to park in the garage when they can park
on the street for free even if there is a time issue. We are
going to have a community wide discussion to come up with a
plan. Hill – it is a big discussion that we will get to in the
future. Wilkins – can they maximize the number of
parking violations that an individual can get? Brooks – this
might be difficult to do. We have reset for pretty much
everyone due to Covid19. Wilkins – it would be more
welcoming to for someone not to get ticketed on their first-time
visiting Fort Collins. Hill – they are giving warnings. Wilkins –
is there a way to track this? Brooks – will investigate if we
have the capability to do this. If we can look in our system, it is
probably not too difficult to get this information, but if it is
already in the courts system, then it might be more
complicated.
Outdoor dining – Brooks. Outdoor dining is technically set to
expire. We have requested an extension. We are having
discussions about heaters, covers, and a short-term solution.
We believe the extension will be allowed, but that is tied to the
liquor license issue and that is either county or state.
Eggleston – what are the rules for outdoor heaters on the
street? Brooks – I do not know, and we are working on
logistics. Hill – installing the jersey barriers was a good idea.
They might be ugly, but they are safe. I am sure the
restaurants would like guidance quickly, and we will need this
sort of thing until the end of next spring.
5. OTHER BUSINESS - NONE
6. ADJOURNMENT
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a. The meeting was moved to be adjourned by Eggleston and second by Utter at
7:18 pm.
These minutes have been unanimously approved by the
Parking Advisory Board on October 12, 2020.
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Eleanor Hill, Parking Advisory Board Chair
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