HomeMy WebLinkAboutAffordable Housing Board - Minutes - 09/05/2019AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
September 5, 2019, 4:00-6:00pm
Colorado River Room, 222 Laporte Ave
9/5/2019 – MINUTES Page 1
1. CALL TO ORDER: 4:06
2. ROLL CALL
• Board Members Present: Jen Bray, Catherine Costlow, Jeff Johnson, Rachel Auldridge
• Board Members Absent: Diane Cohn, Kristin Fritz, Curt Lyons [resigned]
• Staff Members Present: Sue Beck-Ferkiss, Brittany Depew
• Guests: Bob Pawlikowski, Nick Francis, Debbie Mayer, Kathy Dubiel, Marilyn Heller
3. AGENDA REVIEW
A) Jen would like to add a Development Fee update
4. CITIZEN PARTICIPATION
a) None
5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Rachel moved to approve July minutes. Catherine seconded.
Approved unanimously 4-0-0.
6. PRESENTATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS
A. U+2 Occupancy Rule, board discussion continued
Affordable Housing Board could submit memo to Council suggesting that exceptions be
made for programs like HomeShare. Jen shared update from Development Fee group
related to Occupancy Ordinance—found extra occupancy process was underfunded. It
currently costs $500 to apply for this permit and, in order to recoup costs, it needs to be
closer to $1,700. Found that it requires approximately 20 staff hours per permit.
Questions/Q&A:
• Jen: Someone at the meeting shared that they had applied for an extra occupancy
permit—had to do a waterflow test, hire someone to make blueprint of the home,
plus the permit fee.
o Jeff: Did they get the permit?
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o Jen: It took 3 or 4 months, but yes.
• Jeff: Who holds the public hearing for these permits?
o Sue: Is it a hearing officer?
o Jen: Or it might be Planning & Zoning Board
• Sue: There’s nothing currently in front of Council around U+2.
o Jen: I think it would be worth mentioning to Council that it would be a great
time to review the occupancy process in general. They have reviewed and
streamlined other processes in the past.
o Sue: It’s a great recommendation that they review the process and
consider simplifying it to encourage the program and discuss if there could
be exemptions.
Jen: Right, like for nonprofits.
Jeff: Exemptions are a good thing, but not if they’re in place and the
problematic structure remains.
Sue: The benefit of a nonprofit exemption is that neighbors would
have someone else to discuss concerns with.
• Catherine: This may not be the place to spend our political capital, at least not
right now.
o Jen: It may be worth rolling our feedback into the conclusions from the
development fee study group.
• Catherine: Where do you find information about the process for getting this
permit? I’d like to read about it.
o Sue: I would search on the Planning, Development & Transportation (PDT)
website.
B. Metro District Conversation, Board Discussion continued
The current policy around metro districts is negotiation-based; if people want this
privilege, they have to provide stretch goals and the City works with them on what might
be acceptable to Council before moving forward. This Tuesday night, a metro district was
brought forward to Council and it was pushed for another two weeks because of some
concern over parts of the agreement, and there might be a work session scheduled in
the near future.
Questions/Q&A:
• Jen: It sounds like in Josh’s memo, he hits on specific concerns about rigid
requirements.
o Sue: Josh has said in the past it might be helpful to have one metro district
go forward under current requirements and see how it goes.
• Jen: These agreements are approved. What’s keeping them from moving
forward?
o Sue: Nothing. The just have to go back to Council before starting the
project. I think if they have their Development Agreement approved, they
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can issue debt. I did speak with Waterfield about their project—giving us all
homeownership, intend to build the affordable housing in their first phase.
o Jen: Is it going to be a trust?
o Sue: They’re considering it, but it’s not set. The benefit to the City is they
stay affordable for much longer.
• Jen: I’d like to get Josh in here again, as we’re getting closer to some of these
moving forward.
o Sue: Let me talk to Josh about where things are. There might be a work
session scheduled soon.
o Jeff: Would the work session be changing policy?
o Sue: I think it would be reviewing the process.
o Jeff: Do metro districts with approved service plans know they can move
forward with the requirements agreed to? Or could those change?
o Sue: Requirements that have already been agreed to would not be
changed. This would be changing for future metro districts.
• Sue: I think people are aiming at the November election. After that date, there will
be a chunk of time where no one can move forward, so that will be a good time to
focus more on the process.
o Jen: November 2020 election?
o Sue: Northfield is coming back to Council in two weeks and will be seeking
an election this November. If that timing doesn’t work, then yes, we’d be
looking at 2020.
• Jen: I agree with staff’s recommendation in their memo to Council.
• Sue: In relation to our affordable housing goals, metro districts are a tool to get us
there.
C. Affordable Housing Board Agendas & Priorities, Board Discussion – including
review of 2019 Work Plan
Kristin is doing an Affordable Housing 101 presentation for the City, but we were talking
about repeating that for us. It could be prioritized this fall—what else? DMA Plaza tour
may be this year or next January. The board also discussed the City Clerk’s Office
questionnaire. After it’s complete, they will schedule a time for Councilmember Gorgol to
come review the responses with the board.
Comments/Q&A:
• Sue: What are our must-dos for the rest of the year?
o Jen: One thing we need to be thinking about is the Affordable Housing Plan
update.
o Sue: The Public Health and Environment grant is going to be our vehicle
for working on the plan, but it just started on July 1. There will be some
outreach this year but more starting next year. We will have to reevaluate if
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10% at buildout is where our goal should be. The grant is about
implementing City policy to benefit housing and health, but it looks at
attainable housing up to 120% as well.
• Rachel: Can we do a Land Bank tour next year?
o Sue: Yes. That’s pretty easy since it’s mostly vacant land. We are looking
at trying to purchase another property. We had one offer out that was not
accepted, so we’re continuing to look.
• Sue: We did enter into a Memorandum of Understanding with Elevations Land
Trust. Their options are either development or buy existing properties (type is very
flexible). They have capital and can bring some gap money to the table but it
takes all players.
o Jen: And they manage the site?
o Sue: Yes. They own the land, lease is to the homeowner, certify the buyers
and price. This would help us get some permanently affordable units,
unless we are able to build our own with Land Bank. But the City is pretty
much at capacity for managing and certifying, so now we’re looking to our
partners. It is very difficult to make permanent affordable housing work.
7. BUSINESS
a) Council Comments—not discussed
b) Review 2019 Work Plan—discussed above
c) Open Board Discussion
Reimagining Boards & Commissions: Curt has resigned, Jeff is term-limited at the end of the
year, and Kristin is up for renewal. The City Clerk’s office is not currently filling board
positions unless it’s a matter of quorum. There is a work session on September 26 to do a
periodic review.
d) Liaison Reports—Jen discusses Development Fee Working Group below
8. BOARD MEMBER REPORTS
a) Development Fee Updates—Jen Bray
The group will come in and present more final numbers, but the overview is that building
permit fees would be going down almost 50% because it will be based on square footage
rather than valuation. Where the more challenging changes occur are when a development
is proposed, and more fees are required up front. Hartford Homes feedback was that Capital
Expansion Fees were a huge hit to them, but this change didn’t feel like a big deal. For the
average homeowner, they’re changing a few things to make them a simple flat fee. They
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wouldn’t implement these fees until probably February 2020.
• Sue: Did they give you any tangible examples?
o Jen: I asked them to do Village on Redwood and she’ll be adding that in
there
o Sue: That’s a great choice because I think the waiver on that was pretty
small
o Jen: They’re also in the Fort Collins water district. They might also look at
Mason Place.
• Jeff: Does residential go up on planning or permitting?
o Jen: It goes up for planning and down for permitting, with a net difference
of +2%
• Catherine: Any sense if they’ll take that employee information and address their
efficiency?
o Jen: I think that was part of the calculation—considering how some of
these processes could be streamlined
• Jeff: The planning fees are going to double across the board?
o Jen: The planning increases pretty substantially. Development review
process is challenging.
o Jeff: That’s a pretty shocking number. I would look at the timing of the
planning fee, and if the City is going to be collecting all that up front.
o Sue: You do get one conceptual for free.
o Jeff: I’d rather pay more for a permit because I know I’ll get the permit; I
don’t want to pay more for the planning because it may not go through.
This does demonstrate, though, that there’s a lot of planning activity going
on in the City.
9. OTHER BUSINESS
a) Update on Affordable Housing Projects—not discussed
b) Future AHB Meetings Agenda
• Need to move October and December meetings—new dates will be Tuesday,
October 15 and Thursday, December 12
c) City Council Six-Month Planning Calendar—not discussed
10. ADJOURNMENT: 6:04
AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
September 5, 2019, 4:00-6:00pm
Colorado River Room, 222 Laporte Ave
9/5/2019 – MINUTES Page 1
1. CALL TO ORDER: 4:06
2. ROLL CALL
• Board Members Present: Jen Bray, Catherine Costlow, Jeff Johnson, Rachel Auldridge
• Board Members Absent: Diane Cohn, Kristin Fritz, Curt Lyons [resigned]
• Staff Members Present: Sue Beck-Ferkiss, Brittany Depew
• Guests: Bob Pawlikowski, Nick Francis, Debbie Mayer, Kathy Dubiel, Marilyn Heller
3. AGENDA REVIEW
A) Jen would like to add a Development Fee update
4. CITIZEN PARTICIPATION
a) None
5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Rachel moved to approve July minutes. Catherine seconded.
Approved unanimously 4-0-0.
6. PRESENTATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS
A. U+2 Occupancy Rule, board discussion continued
Affordable Housing Board could submit memo to Council suggesting that exceptions be
made for programs like HomeShare. Jen shared update from Development Fee group
related to Occupancy Ordinance—found extra occupancy process was underfunded. It
currently costs $500 to apply for this permit and, in order to recoup costs, it needs to be
closer to $1,700. Found that it requires approximately 20 staff hours per permit.
Questions/Q&A:
• Jen: Someone at the meeting shared that they had applied for an extra occupancy
permit—had to do a waterflow test, hire someone to make blueprint of the home,
plus the permit fee.
o Jeff: Did they get the permit?
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o Jen: It took 3 or 4 months, but yes.
• Jeff: Who holds the public hearing for these permits?
o Sue: Is it a hearing officer?
o Jen: Or it might be Planning & Zoning Board
• Sue: There’s nothing currently in front of Council around U+2.
o Jen: I think it would be worth mentioning to Council that it would be a great
time to review the occupancy process in general. They have reviewed and
streamlined other processes in the past.
o Sue: It’s a great recommendation that they review the process and
consider simplifying it to encourage the program and discuss if there could
be exemptions.
Jen: Right, like for nonprofits.
Jeff: Exemptions are a good thing, but not if they’re in place and the
problematic structure remains.
Sue: The benefit of a nonprofit exemption is that neighbors would
have someone else to discuss concerns with.
• Catherine: This may not be the place to spend our political capital, at least not
right now.
o Jen: It may be worth rolling our feedback into the conclusions from the
development fee study group.
• Catherine: Where do you find information about the process for getting this
permit? I’d like to read about it.
o Sue: I would search on the Planning, Development & Transportation (PDT)
website.
B. Metro District Conversation, Board Discussion continued
The current policy around metro districts is negotiation-based; if people want this
privilege, they have to provide stretch goals and the City works with them on what might
be acceptable to Council before moving forward. This Tuesday night, a metro district was
brought forward to Council and it was pushed for another two weeks because of some
concern over parts of the agreement, and there might be a work session scheduled in
the near future.
Questions/Q&A:
• Jen: It sounds like in Josh’s memo, he hits on specific concerns about rigid
requirements.
o Sue: Josh has said in the past it might be helpful to have one metro district
go forward under current requirements and see how it goes.
• Jen: These agreements are approved. What’s keeping them from moving
forward?
o Sue: Nothing. The just have to go back to Council before starting the
project. I think if they have their Development Agreement approved, they
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can issue debt. I did speak with Waterfield about their project—giving us all
homeownership, intend to build the affordable housing in their first phase.
o Jen: Is it going to be a trust?
o Sue: They’re considering it, but it’s not set. The benefit to the City is they
stay affordable for much longer.
• Jen: I’d like to get Josh in here again, as we’re getting closer to some of these
moving forward.
o Sue: Let me talk to Josh about where things are. There might be a work
session scheduled soon.
o Jeff: Would the work session be changing policy?
o Sue: I think it would be reviewing the process.
o Jeff: Do metro districts with approved service plans know they can move
forward with the requirements agreed to? Or could those change?
o Sue: Requirements that have already been agreed to would not be
changed. This would be changing for future metro districts.
• Sue: I think people are aiming at the November election. After that date, there will
be a chunk of time where no one can move forward, so that will be a good time to
focus more on the process.
o Jen: November 2020 election?
o Sue: Northfield is coming back to Council in two weeks and will be seeking
an election this November. If that timing doesn’t work, then yes, we’d be
looking at 2020.
• Jen: I agree with staff’s recommendation in their memo to Council.
• Sue: In relation to our affordable housing goals, metro districts are a tool to get us
there.
C. Affordable Housing Board Agendas & Priorities, Board Discussion – including
review of 2019 Work Plan
Kristin is doing an Affordable Housing 101 presentation for the City, but we were talking
about repeating that for us. It could be prioritized this fall—what else? DMA Plaza tour
may be this year or next January. The board also discussed the City Clerk’s Office
questionnaire. After it’s complete, they will schedule a time for Councilmember Gorgol to
come review the responses with the board.
Comments/Q&A:
• Sue: What are our must-dos for the rest of the year?
o Jen: One thing we need to be thinking about is the Affordable Housing Plan
update.
o Sue: The Public Health and Environment grant is going to be our vehicle
for working on the plan, but it just started on July 1. There will be some
outreach this year but more starting next year. We will have to reevaluate if
AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
9/5/2019 – MINUTES Page 4
10% at buildout is where our goal should be. The grant is about
implementing City policy to benefit housing and health, but it looks at
attainable housing up to 120% as well.
• Rachel: Can we do a Land Bank tour next year?
o Sue: Yes. That’s pretty easy since it’s mostly vacant land. We are looking
at trying to purchase another property. We had one offer out that was not
accepted, so we’re continuing to look.
• Sue: We did enter into a Memorandum of Understanding with Elevations Land
Trust. Their options are either development or buy existing properties (type is very
flexible). They have capital and can bring some gap money to the table but it
takes all players.
o Jen: And they manage the site?
o Sue: Yes. They own the land, lease is to the homeowner, certify the buyers
and price. This would help us get some permanently affordable units,
unless we are able to build our own with Land Bank. But the City is pretty
much at capacity for managing and certifying, so now we’re looking to our
partners. It is very difficult to make permanent affordable housing work.
7. BUSINESS
a) Council Comments—not discussed
b) Review 2019 Work Plan—discussed above
c) Open Board Discussion
Reimagining Boards & Commissions: Curt has resigned, Jeff is term-limited at the end of the
year, and Kristin is up for renewal. The City Clerk’s office is not currently filling board
positions unless it’s a matter of quorum. There is a work session on September 26 to do a
periodic review.
d) Liaison Reports—Jen discusses Development Fee Working Group below
8. BOARD MEMBER REPORTS
a) Development Fee Updates—Jen Bray
The group will come in and present more final numbers, but the overview is that building
permit fees would be going down almost 50% because it will be based on square footage
rather than valuation. Where the more challenging changes occur are when a development
is proposed, and more fees are required up front. Hartford Homes feedback was that Capital
Expansion Fees were a huge hit to them, but this change didn’t feel like a big deal. For the
average homeowner, they’re changing a few things to make them a simple flat fee. They
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9/5/2019 – MINUTES Page 5
wouldn’t implement these fees until probably February 2020.
• Sue: Did they give you any tangible examples?
o Jen: I asked them to do Village on Redwood and she’ll be adding that in
there
o Sue: That’s a great choice because I think the waiver on that was pretty
small
o Jen: They’re also in the Fort Collins water district. They might also look at
Mason Place.
• Jeff: Does residential go up on planning or permitting?
o Jen: It goes up for planning and down for permitting, with a net difference
of +2%
• Catherine: Any sense if they’ll take that employee information and address their
efficiency?
o Jen: I think that was part of the calculation—considering how some of
these processes could be streamlined
• Jeff: The planning fees are going to double across the board?
o Jen: The planning increases pretty substantially. Development review
process is challenging.
o Jeff: That’s a pretty shocking number. I would look at the timing of the
planning fee, and if the City is going to be collecting all that up front.
o Sue: You do get one conceptual for free.
o Jeff: I’d rather pay more for a permit because I know I’ll get the permit; I
don’t want to pay more for the planning because it may not go through.
This does demonstrate, though, that there’s a lot of planning activity going
on in the City.
9. OTHER BUSINESS
a) Update on Affordable Housing Projects—not discussed
b) Future AHB Meetings Agenda
• Need to move October and December meetings—new dates will be Tuesday,
October 15 and Thursday, December 12
c) City Council Six-Month Planning Calendar—not discussed
10. ADJOURNMENT: 6:04