HomeMy WebLinkAboutZoning Board Of Appeals - Minutes - 02/14/2019Ralph Shields, Vice Chair
Shelley La Mastra
Bob Long
John McCoy
Taylor Meyer
Butch Stockover
Karen Szelei-Jackson
Council Liaison: Ken Summers
Staff Liaison: Noah Beals
LOCATION:
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300 LaPorte Avenue
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REGULAR MEETING
FEBRUARY 14, 2019
8:34 AM
• CALL TO ORDER and ROLL CALL
• APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM PREVIOUS MEETING
Jackson made a motion, seconded by Shields, to approve the December 13, 2018 Minutes.
Vote
Yeas: Jackson, Meyer, Shields, Long
Abstain: McCoy, LaMastra
Nays: None
The Motion was carried.
• CITIZEN PARTICIPATION (Items Not on the Agenda)
• APPEALS FOR VARIANCE TO THE LAND USE CODE
1. APPEAL ZBA180046 - APPROVED
Address: 2405 Purdue Circle
Owner/Petitioner: Lyra McMillian
Zoning District: R-L
Code Section: 4.4(D)(2)(c)
Project Description:
This is a request for an accessory building to be located 6 feet into the required 15-foot rear-yard
setback.
Staff Presentation:
Beals showed slides relevant to the appeal and discussed the variance request. The request is to
continue building a shed in the backyard, located 9 feet away from the rear property line. There is a
required 15-foot setback. The shed encroaches 6 feet into the setback, but the encroachment varies
along the length of the building. The applicant acknowledged in her letter to the board that she was
unaware of the requirements regarding a permit or setback. Construction was put on hold to follow
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proper procedure. There is a large tree in the backyard that prevents her from moving the shed to
accommodate the setback. The shed is sized properly in both square footage and height.
Boardmember LaMastra inquired as to the health of the tree. Beals was not aware if the health of the
tree has been assessed but did confirm it is a green ash tree.
Applicant Presentation:
Lyra McMillian, 2405 Purdue Circle, addressed the board. Ms. McMillian has the green ash tree
pruned regularly and the arborist has advised the tree is healthy.
Boardmember LaMastra brought up the emerald ash tree borers in the area and asked if the
applicant is planning on treating this tree. Ms. McMillian’s arborist suggested it is not effective to
pretreat trees, typically by the time the borer gets in the tree, it’s hard to recognize there is a problem
until it’s too late. Her grandfather planted the tree, so she does have significant interest in keeping it
healthy. Boardmember LaMastra stated the city has a prevention process in place and is planning on
protecting some of their more significant trees.
Boardmember Jackson asked about the roof height. Beals confirmed that the shed’s roof height is
within requirements.
Boardmember LaMastra reviewed the drawings of the porch and wanted to know if that area is
reflected on the plans. Beals confirmed the porch is not shown on the plans. In this zone district, that
porch area does not count toward floor area, but does prevent the shed from being moved closer to
the tree.
Ms. McMillian stated when she poured the footings, she did not want to encroach on the tree roots.
Boardmember LaMastra questioned the width of the extra roof. Ms. McMillian indicated it is 6 feet.
Audience Participation: (none)
Board Discussion:
Boardmember Jackson brought up the correspondence received from neighbor Greg Redder. Beals
read the email to the board. Mr. Redder states on the surface he was opposed to this variance but
requested additional information. Beals emailed the application to Mr. Redder, who responded that he
will defer to the adjacent neighbor as this structure does not present any direct conflict to Mr.
Redder’s property.
Boardmember McCoy asked where Mr. Redder’s property is located. Beals confirmed Mr. Redder
resides on the other side of Purdue Road and pointed it out on the map. The surrounding neighbors
were also notified of this variance in the same manner as Mr. Redder.
Boardmember Shields was in favor of this variance. There is still a 9-foot setback to the property line
and the neighbors haven’t expressed any issues.
Boardmember LaMastra approved with the condition that tree is preventatively treated. She has
spoken with the City Forester and they do have methods for ensuring trees will not get emerald ash
borer. Given that the porch is what prevents the shed from being in the setback, if the tree is the
limiting factor, we need to maintain that tree.
Boardmember Jackson was also in support. She has a hard time making a hardship case, other than
the fact that the foundation has already been poured. It’s common that people don’t know permits are
required for sheds in this town. Without any neighbors here to speak against the variance, this would
be nominal and inconsequential.
Boardmember Long made a motion, seconded by Shields, to approve ZBA180046 for the
following reasons, the variance is not detrimental to the public good, the physical condition of
the existing tree on the property limits the ability to comply with the code, the encroachment
is from 2 feet to 6 feet along the length of the wall. Therefore, the strict application of the
standard results in an exceptional practical difficulty caused by the exceptional physical
conditions unique to the property, not caused by the act or omission of the applicant.
Boardmember LaMastra added a friendly amendment, accepted by Boardmember Long and
seconded by Shields, to ensure that the applicant meets with the City Forester and that they
review how to protect the tree.
Vote:
Yeas: Jackson, McCoy, Meyer, Shields, LaMastra, Long
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Nays: None.
The Motion was carried.
2. APPEAL ZBA190001 - APPROVED
Address: 110 Boardwalk Drive
Owner: The Dunlap DD Trust
Petitioner: Schlosser Signs
Zoning District: C-G
Code Section: 3.8.7.2(G)
Project Description:
This is a request to allow a sign to be 12.08 feet in height as measured from street grade and setback
10 feet from the property line. The allowed maximum sign height is 10 feet.
Staff Presentation:
Beals showed slides relevant to the appeal and discussed the variance request. This property was
previously a restaurant and has been converted into an urgent care. With the conversion, they’ve
asked to relocate an old sign. The sign is measured from grade at the gutter or flow line in the right of
way, and measures about 12 feet in height. The maximum height the sign can be at a 10-foot setback
from the property line is 10 feet high. The request is for an additional 2.08 feet of additional sign
height. A permit was issued for the new sign, but it was not until city staff was onsite afterwards that
they realized the sign height was over the max height of 10 feet. The applicant has now requested a
variance to keep the sign in place. The sign structure is what was relocated, and then they refaced
the sign to reflect the new business.
Boardmember Shields requested clarification on where measurements are taken. Beals specified
they measure from the grade at the gutter or curb, from pictures you can see there is quite a steep
grade difference on the site, this carries on through the whole block face.
Boardmember Long wanted to know where the sign was located previously. Beals indicated on the
pictures. Long questioned how the previous sign was in compliance. Beals did not know when the
permit was issued for the previous sign, but it could have been in compliance at that time.
Boardmember LaMastra wanted to know if the rest of the wall signage on the property is in
compliance. Beals confirmed that it is in compliance regarding square footage and location.
Discussion regarding if the sign is a pole on the bottom with a metal apron around it, that is most
likely the case, will confirm with the applicant.
Applicant Presentation:
Petitioner, Erin Garcia with Schlosser Signs, 3597 Draft Horse Court, addressed the board. Ms.
Garcia confirmed that the structure of the sign includes poles and a pole cover or apron. This was an
existing sign that was moved over. When the new sign faces were submitted, then the apron and
cabinet around the sign face were repainted. Schlosser Signs installs signs for Med Express. The
zoning reviewer, Schlosser Signs, and the customer all assumed the grading would be similar to the
original location. No one thought that it would be measured differently upon inspection. Schlosser
Signs purposely moved the location to make sure the setback would satisfy the 10-foot sign height.
Ms. Garcia agreed that the previous sign location was equally as high if not higher. It was her
understanding the previous sign was approved under old code. This sign had been refaced with Med
Express and was grandfathered in at the previous location.
Boardmember Meyer inquired as to how much effort it would take to reduce the height of the sign by
2.08 feet. Ms. Garcia explained that they proposed about 4 different options with the customer. It
would be virtually impossible to use the existing sign structure and reduce the height. If this variance
is not granted, they would have to produce a new sign and have it installed in the new location for
around $10,000. The customer would be able to reuse the faces, just not the structure.
Boardmember LaMastra asked if we believe the grade is equal, then this sign would have probably
been a non-conforming sign where it was located previously. Beals confirmed this is the case.
LaMastra stated that we relocated a non-conforming sign.
Audience Participation: (none)
Board Discussion:
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Boardmember Jackson stated this is nominal and inconsequential. This is 2 feet out of compliance
and it doesn’t seem detrimental to the public good. Sight lines for turning the corner are still held. All
other aspects of the sign are in compliance.
Boardmember Shields agreed, measuring from the flow line presents a challenge. He doesn’t see any
issues with the sign as is.
Motion:
Jackson made a motion, seconded by Shields, to approve ZBA190001 because the variance is
not detrimental to the public good, there are significant grade changes from public right of
way to the property, the sign was existing in a different location, therefore the variance will not
diverge from the standard but in a nominal and inconsequential way when considered in the
context of the neighborhood, and will continue to advance the purpose of the land use code
contained in section 1.2.2.
Vote:
Yeas: Jackson, McCoy, Meyer, Shields, LaMastra, Long
Nays: None.
The Motion was carried.
3. APPEAL ZBA190002 - DENIED
Address: 936 Kimball Road
Owner/Petitioner: Larry Dietz
Zoning District: R-L
Code Section: 3.5.2(E)(5)
Project Description:
This variance is for partially built 32 foot by 36 foot detached RV storage pole barn. This 1152 square
foot accessory building is 352 square feet over the 800 square foot maximum allowed for a lot of this
size. It is replacing a 1200 square foot horse barn that existed on the property prior to the principal
house being built.
Staff Presentation:
Beals showed slides relevant to the appeal and discussed the variance request. Before this
neighborhood was platted, there was a residential house on the corner, and it had an accessory
building in the backyard. In time, this property was platted and developed into single family homes.
When the home was built on the subject property, they kept the original accessory building in the
rear. This is a one-story building, approximately 6 to 7 feet tall. The owner decided to demolish this
building and start construction of a new building. The applicant failed to pull a building permit before
commencing constructing of the new building. The City issued a stop work order, which required the
owner to submit a building permit application. Upon submitting the application, it was found that the
accessory structure was too large for current code. Current standards allow an accessory building to
be up to 800 square feet in floor area. The proposal for this building is approximately 1152 square
feet of floor area. The old building was one story that was approximately 1200 square feet. The old
building has been partially demolished, the owner left part of the structure to help protect his tools, but
Beals believes the old building will be completely demolished when the new structure is completed.
The new building is taller than the primary building on site. The new building as proposed does meet
height restrictions and setbacks. However, it is too large in square footage for an accessory building
in this district. There was correspondence received from a neighbor.
Boardmember Long established this is RL zone and the maximum height for an accessory building is
28 feet.
Boardmember Shields confirmed the proposed new building meets all setbacks. Beals agreed that
only size is the issue.
Boardmember Meyer requested to view the slide of the primary residence with the accessory building
behind it. Beals confirmed the primary residence is not to the maximum allowable height, and the
accessory building can be higher in elevation than the primary residence. The primary building could
have two stories.
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Boardmember Jackson asked if the accessory building is allowed to be bigger in floor area than the
primary structure. Beals confirmed that it is, but when looking at a variance they must keep in mind at
what point a structure becomes primary versus subordinate.
Applicant Presentation:
Larry Dietz, 936 Kimball Road, addressed the board. When looking from the street view, the peak of
the accessory building is 19.8 feet in height, which is about 4 feet taller than the primary building. His
intent is to match the existing structure with siding and color to ensure it is aesthetically pleasing. Mr.
Dietz would like to get his RV and boat out of the street view and into the new structure. The current
structure isn’t even tall enough for his truck to fit inside. Mr. Dietz thinks this building will improve the
street view. He anticipates a comment from the neighbor to the north regarding the shadow of this
building. Mr. Dietz submitted additional pictures to show that shadow today. He consulted an
individual at CSU about the elevation of the sun throughout the year and how much of a shadow this
building will cast.
Boardmember Jackson requested the length of the applicant’s RV. Mr. Dietz replied 27 feet, 6 inches.
He does plan to purchase a newer model, and that is why the wall height of the structure is taller.
New model RV’s are about 12 feet, 6 inches, so he has included a 14-foot overhead doorway to allow
the air conditioner and other top units to clear the doorway.
Boardmember Long wanted to know if the applicant was aware that he needed a building permit. Mr.
Dietz confirmed that he was aware. He started this project in 2014 and met with several people in the
building permit department and was met with resistance. He was frustrated with the rejection and
went ahead and proceeded forward with his project anyway.
Boardmember LaMastra asked if the building were to shrink 30% in size, could both the RV and boat
still fit inside. Mr. Dietz says it could not. LaMastra asked if he could fit one of the two, and Mr. Dietz
said he could. With the current posts and $4,000 worth of roof trusses already standing, it would be
difficult. He doesn’t know how to shrink the size and still get both the boat and RV off the street view.
Boardmember Meyer questioned when Mr. Dietz decided to move forward without a building permit,
was he aware the structure was not in compliance with the Land Use Code? Mr. Dietz said no.
Boardmember Jackson inquired if he had a general contractor as there is a company listed on the
sketches. Mr. Dietz replied he does not have a general contractor, he is doing the work himself.
However, the structure is engineered. All materials were purchased from Menards in Cheyenne, they
are engineered trusses out of central Nebraska and the plans do have an engineer’s stamp.
Boardmember Jackson confirmed with Mr. Dietz that the engineer is licensed in Colorado.
Boardmember LaMastra requested to know more about Mr. Dietz’s frustration with the building permit
process. Mr. Dietz replied in order to tear down the old building he had to go through the process to
establish if it was a historical building, then establish if there was asbestos. He started to dig the
footings for the posts of the new structure, and when he approached the building permit department,
he was told about the setbacks. Originally, he wanted the structure closer to his back fence to allow
for longer driveway to maneuver the RV and boat into the doorway. He’s actually using part of the
foundation from the old building, which is 16 feet off the back fence. That would be a storage area for
tools, garden tractor, lawn mowers, etc. LaMastra asked if he was made aware of the height
restrictions during this process of meeting with the permit staff. Mr. Dietz said he was not. There was
a young gentleman who requested engineered drawings, and for Mr. Dietz to submit everything on a
thumb drive. Mr. Dietz stated he is not a technical person and he is retired. He did not have the
knowledge or the people to do this for him, so instead he started digging holes.
Boardmember Jackson inquired if this structure was permitted, Mr. Dietz confirmed that it is not.
Boardmember Shields asked if Mr. Dietz was aware of the size limit requirement. Mr. Dietz stated he
was not. Shields specified there are two vehicles both 9 feet in width, and the proposed building is a
36 feet wide. Mr. Dietz confirmed this is correct. There are two doorways, one is 14 feet to allow for
the RV and the second door is 10 feet high for the boat. If he parked everything just right, he could
also fit his truck to get it off the street.
Boardmember Meyer wanted to confirm the building has been engineered by a licensed structural
engineer. Mr. Dietz clarified, it wasn’t engineered by them, he did it himself. Then, per the building
department’s request, he retrieved a stamp by an engineer.
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Boardmember Long clarified the trusses were engineered. After the fact, an engineering company
was brought in and listed which items were in compliance, as well as 8 items that need to be
addressed. What is currently built is not properly structured.
Boardmember Meyer questioned reusing the existing foundation and asked when that previous
structure built. Mr. Dietz clarified he is not reusing existing foundation. All the posts were buried 4 feet
deep with concrete, with 6 inch by 14 inch diameter padding at the bottom of each post. He cut the
existing foundation to plant those posts, what is being reused is the concrete slab.
Audience Participation:
Cynthia Harris, 931 Kimball Road, lives directly across the street from the applicant. Ms. Harris has
owned this residence for 22 years. She is in full support of this variance. It replaces another building
with a larger footprint. The new structure will increase property values in the area, it is safe as
confirmed by a structural engineer, and it’s architecture keeps with the buildings in the neighborhood.
It will provide safe and secure storage for the RV, removing it from view and protecting it from
vandalism. The attractive new building is a welcome asset.
Patty Jeffries, 2804 West Elizabeth Street, lives directly south of the applicant. She has no
reservations about this variance and does not anticipate that this would negatively affect her property
value. The consolidation of all the vehicles into the structure will be a vast improvement for her line of
sight. The area of the previous structure will be a patio upon completion, which is better than what
she currently sees.
Stefanie DeAngelis, 930 Kimball Road, lives directly north of the property. She is very bothered about
the size of the barn and has also submitted a written statement. The City determined that the
structure is illegal, twice. There is no reason the applicant needs or deserves to exceed the 800
square foot maximum. His illegal tactics to build an illegal structure of illegal size should be enough to
deny his variance. Even the slightest possibility this behavior could be rewarded with a positive
outcome seems like a serious flaw in our city’s codes and an invitation for all of us to cheat the
system. Ms. DeAngelis has looked all over Fort Collins for a structure like this in a back yard and
haven’t found anything like it. An airplane would fit in, with extra room. This building would be fine in
another zoning district, on a farm or in a commercial or industrial area, but not in a residential
neighborhood. Ms. DeAngelis asks that the zoning codes be upheld in her neighborhood without an
HOA.
Boardmember LaMastra revisited the question she asked Mr. Dietz regarding if he reduced the
structure would he be able to fit both the boat and RV in it, and he said no. The email Ms. DeAngelis
sent on Jan 31, 2019 states 800 square feet would allow room for parking his RV, for ample storage,
a workshop area, and the parking of his boat or another vehicle. There seems to be a conflict on what
would fit in this structure. Ms. DeAngelis stated Larry is actually saying he won’t be able to alter the
structure that he illegally built. However, he could get a building engineered at 800 square feet with a
single sliding door that would be built to city code that would allow him to fit both of those vehicles in it
side by side. As previously stated, they are only 9 feet wide. He does not need 36 feet in width to fit
those items inside. Except for the fact that he has main support structures in the middle of the barn
and two sliding doors instead of one. It would require that he would have to take down what he’s built
illegally, then reengineer, redesign, and get permits.
Boardmember LaMastra asked if Ms. DeAngelis is more bothered by the footprint or the height. Ms.
DeAngelis does not agree with the height but is most bothered that when she looks out her window or
out her patio now all she sees is a giant warehouse. If he reduced the length by 11 feet it would make
a significant difference. A third of the structure is a substantial reduction. Boardmember LaMastra
clarified it would come further from her property line, but the elevation and height would be the same.
Ms. DeAngelis agreed, but also brought up if they had to reengineer the structure, it could be in a
different location or different dimensions. When the structure started to go up the applicant’s wife told
her they had permits in place. Otherwise, she would have contacted City staff that same day.
Boardmembers inquired as to how and when was it determined the building had no permit. Beals is
not sure if we received a phone call or if a building inspector was just in the area, but an inspector
saw the structure and issued a stop work order. The applicant might be able to better address the
length of time between when construction started and when the stop work order was placed.
Boardmember LaMastra asked Ms. DeAngelis about the existing structure versus the new structure.
The existing structure is significantly longer. If the height is in compliance, and part of the backyard is
transitioned into an open courtyard, this might improve your side yard area. Ms. DeAngelis stated the
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previous building was only 6 feet tall on her side of the property. Growing season sunlight will not
affect her yard or plantings. The shadow cast from the building comes to the edge of her patio. When
out in her yard or sunroom, it’s completely changed the light through the winter. As far as the previous
building goes, it did not bother her. She wants them to be able to do what they want with their
property, but this building is not acceptable.
Sandy Dietz, 936 Kimball Road, applicant’s wife addressed the board. This building is not going to
look like a warehouse. It will match the primary building, with siding and roof in the same colors. Ms.
Dietz wants the board to be aware that the neighbor illegally put unstamped letters into the
surrounding neighbor’s mailboxes. She never told Ms. DeAngelis that they had acquired a permit.
This structure will enhance the neighborhood. The existing structure was dilapidated and falling apart,
this is a big improvement.
Mr. Dietz says he had applied for a building permit when they had the discussion with Ms. DeAngelis.
The permit application was rejected because he wanted to place it within 10 feet of back fence to
allow for a bigger driveway. Mr. Dietz wanted more space to turn a 27-foot RV with a 12 foot pick up,
or an 18 foot boat. They would fit in a smaller building if you could maneuver them without a vehicle
attached. It would be very difficult to downsize the building.
Boardmember LaMastra asked Mr. Dietz to clarify that he did apply for a permit, and the only
communication he received back was regarding the setbacks. Mr. Dietz says this is correct. LaMastra
asked if we have record of that. Mr. Dietz replied that there is no record. When he took the plans in,
he spoke with a young gentleman who advised they would need a variance due to the proximity to the
back fence. This was his third or fourth time going to the building department. At that point, Mr. Dietz
decided to use the original footprint of the old building and expand upon it for the new building, while
taking down half of the old structure to open up the north neighbor’s view.
Boardmember Meyer clarified that Mr. Dietz did not formally submit a permit application at that time.
Mr. Dietz confirmed this is correct. He submitted an application recently and paid the fee, and that is
how the variance is being heard in front of the board currently.
Boardmember LaMastra reiterated that it was never communicated to Mr. Dietz that this structure
was significantly oversized. Mr. Dietz confirmed this is correct. He doesn’t remember who he met with
at the permit department, just that he was a young gentleman.
Board Discussion:
Boardmember Long stated that the real issue here is massing. RL zoning allows an extremely tall
accessory building height. He is usually in support of garages and accessory buildings. This board
looks at the public good, what is nominal and inconsequential, and if there is a hardship present. This
meets none of those. The applicant knowingly went ahead with the structure without being approved.
The staff at the building department were simply instructing him to submit plans for review.
Boardmember Jackson brought up that this goes beyond massing. It is detrimental to the public good.
She acknowledges Mr. Dietz’s frustration with the city, but the process is there for a reason: to ensure
the health, safety, and welfare of all residents. Having this building which may or may not be
engineered properly, and may or may not be built per the city standards for construction is detrimental
to the public good. Being 44% over the square footage for an accessory building is significant. She
does not see a hardship here. An 800 square foot building would accommodate the applicant’s need.
Boardmember LaMastra stated that Mr. Dietz knew he needed a permit, he chose to disregard the
process and start construction anyway, which is troubling.
Boardmember Shields agreed the process is there for a reason, everyone goes through the same
procedure. All of this would have been avoided if the applicant went about this properly.
McCoy agreed with the other boardmembers.
Long made a motion, seconded by Jackson, to deny appeal ZBA190002 for the following
reasons: 352 square feet is a 44% increase in the allowable square footage for an accessory
building is not nominal and inconsequantial in the context of the neighborhood, insufficient
evidence has been provided in establishing a unique hardship to the property, and insufficient
evidence has been provided in showing how the proposal supports the standard in an equally
well or better way than a proposal that complies with the standard.
Vote:
Yeas: Jackson, McCoy, Meyer, Shields, LaMastra, Long
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Nays: None.
The Motion was carried to deny the appeal.
4. APPEAL ZBA190003 - DENIED
Address: 4701 Strauss Cabin Rd
Owner: Harmony 23 LLC
Petitioner: Nicole Vatrano
Zoning District: H-C
Code Section: 3.8.7.2(G)
Project Description:
Variance requested to install a second monument sign for the new Wyatt commercial property along
E. Harmony Road. The maximum number of monument signs along any frontage is one.
Staff Presentation:
Taylor Meyer excused himself from the item due to a conflict of interest.
Beals showed slides relevant to the appeal and discussed the variance request. This property
received a development approval for a multi-family complex with 368 building units on 14 acres. The
request is to build three monument signs along the property. There are two frontages: East Harmony
Road and Strauss Cabin Road. The applicant is allowed one monument sign along each frontage.
The request is to have at least two signs along Harmony Road, one at the corner and one at the far
west property line. The distance is about 1,000 linear feet along Harmony.The signs that are in place
do comply with sign code standards.
Boardmember LaMastra inquired if there are any other apartment complexes with a similar frontage
area and two signs. Beals didn’t recall another similar apartment complex. This board did approve a
variance for the HP/Broadcom commercial property across the street, allowing them to have two
signs along their property.
Boardmember Jackson requested to see one of the slides again. She asked if these were two
different properties, could they could have separate signs. Beals clarified if they were two different
properties with two different vehicle entries, then they could have separate signs. If they shared
vehicle entry, they do encourage properties to consolidate sign locations. There is no entry on
Harmony, the only entry to the property is on Strauss Cabin Road.
Boardmember McCoy inquired as to the use of the north east corner. Beals explained this is a
detention area for the wetlands.
Applicant Presentation:
Nicole Vatrano, representing DaVinci Sign Systems, addressed the board. Ms. Vatrano addressed
the previous question from Boardmember LaMastra regarding other apartment complexes. The sign
located on the corner of Harmony Road and Strauss Cabin is near the detention pond so there is a
utility easement. Therefore, they are limited in how to angle the sign, and cannot rotate it far enough
to be double sided. They wanted to put the sign on the western side of Harmony because the actual
entrance to the complex is further in on Strauss Cabin.
Boardmember LaMastra requested clarification regarding the positioning of the signs. Casey Easton,
Sign Designer and Sales Representative with DaVinci Sign Systems, addressed the board. All three
signs are one sided. The main entrance sign is turned at a 45 degree angle to fit around the retention
pond and utility easement. This sign is only visible for westbound Harmony Road traffic. The sign
higher on the west side is where they are requesting the variance. This sign is intended for eastbound
Harmony Traffic.
Boardmember LaMastra asked if there was any way to consolidate to one single sign more in the
middle and make that sign perpendicular for both directions of traffic. Mr. Easton replied there is a
sidewalk that limits the amount of space available. The main entrance sign was so tight it had to be
turned at 45 degrees to fit in. They are even using a hydrovac on the foundation because of utilities
located in the immediate area.
Multiple questions regarding the location of the signs on the site map. The sign is actually turned
perpendicular to Harmony Road, which is not reflected on the map. There is an easement and a small
portion of land dedicated to the sign. All signs meet other code requirements.
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Comment from Beals that the sign can be located in the easement, but they avoid being over any
actual pipes. Mr. Easton clarified that they have placed signs on the line previously, but in this case
that shouldn’t be an issue.
Audience Participation: (none)
Board Discussion:
Boardmember Long stated they have seen this request previously from one of the hospital sites and
Houska, where two monument signs are being requested along large property lines.
Boardmember LaMastra views the hill crest as an advantage to the visibility of the apartment
complex. This is not a hardship of the site. The problem is the ability to rotate the sign at Harmony
and Strauss to be a two-sided sign that is visible to eastbound traffic.
Boardmember Shields agrees.
Boardmember McCoy asked Beals about a similar discussion regarding a complex located on the
northwest corner of Drake and Timberline. Beals was not supporting staff liaison at that time and
doesn’t recall if a variance was in place. McCoy thinks this board denied that variance for two signs.
Hospitals and work places are different from apartment complexes. This apartment complex is highly
visible.
Boardmember LaMastra inquired if the sign would be allowed to go into the easement at Strauss
Cabin and Harmony Road to make the sign two sided.
Mr. Easton replied the main entrance sign was placed there as a result of the retention pond, drop off,
and setbacks. There is no room to turn the sign. The customer wants that corner to be the main sign
highlighting where the entrance is located.
Boardmembers reiterated that an apartment complex is different than a commercial property and that
this complex is highly visible.
Boardmember Long stated it appears there is enough room for a two-sided sign at approximately
mid-site.
Additional board discussion regarding a lack of specific hardship for this variance.
Boardmember Jackson added that nominal and inconsequential doesn’t apply and this is not
detrimental to the public good.
Long made a motion, seconded by Shields, to deny appeal ZBA190003 for the following
reasons: I don’t find a particular hardship that could not be overcome by a potential other
location, I don’t see it as doing particular harm to the public good, I do not see it as being
equal to or better than a single sign along Harmony, and a second sign, which would be 100%
increase in signs on Harmony, is not inconsequential or nominal.
Vote:
Yeas: Jackson, McCoy, Shields, LaMastra, Long
Nays: None.
The Motion was carried to deny the appeal.
• OTHER BUSINESS
Election of officials for 2019. Discussion regarding who would be the most appropriate.
Long made a motion, seconded by Jackson, to approve Ralph Shields elected to the Chair and
Shelley LaMastra elected as the Vice Chair.
Vote:
Yeas: Jackson, McCoy, Meyer, Shields, LaMastra, Long
Nays: None.
The Motion was carried.