HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning And Zoning Board - Minutes - 05/31/2018Jeff Schneider, Chair
City Council Chambers
Jeff Hansen, Vice Chair City Hall West
Jennifer Carpenter 300 Laporte Avenue
Michael Hobbs Fort Collins, Colorado
Christine Pardee
Ruth Rollins Cablecast on FCTV Channel 14 &
William Whitley Channel 881 on Comcast
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Regular Hearing
May 31, 2018
Chair Schneider called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
Roll Call: Hansen, Hobbs, Rollins, Schneider and Whitley
Absent: Carpenter
Staff Present: Gloss, Schmidt, Simpkins, Wray, McWilliams, Martina, Bethurem Harras, Sullivan, Beane,
Tuttle and Gerber
Chair Schneider provided background on the board’s role and what the audience could expect as to the order of
business. He described the following procedures:
• While the City staff provides comprehensive information about each project under consideration, citizen
input is valued and appreciated.
• The Board is here to listen to citizen comments. Each citizen may address the Board once for each item.
• Decisions on development projects are based on judgment of compliance or non-compliance with city Land
Use Code.
• Should a citizen wish to address the Board on items other than what is on the agenda, time will be allowed
for that as well.
• This is a legal hearing, and the Chair will moderate for the usual civility and fairness to ensure that
everyone who wishes to speak can be heard.
Agenda Review
Planning Manager Gloss reviewed the items on the Discussion agenda, stating that the Fort Collins Mennonite
Church Storage Lockers Minor Amendment (formerly Agenda Item #2) has been moved to the June 21, 2018
hearing.
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Public Input on Items Not on the Hearing Agenda:
None noted.
Discussion Agenda:
1. Planned Unit Development (PUD) Land Use Code Amendment
Project Description: Revisions to Land Use Code Article 1 (General Provisions), Article 2 (Administration), Article
4 (Districts) and Article 5 (Definitions) as they relate to the creation of a new process and regulations for a Planned
Unit Development (PUD) Overlay District. The proposed PUD Overlay District provides for additional flexibility in
site design not available through traditional development procedures, and the ability for extended vested property
rights, in return for the provision of significant public benefits. Under the PUD process, parcels 50 acres or greater
in size are eligible to create a governing, multi-phased PUD Master Plan that directs and guides subsequent Project
Development Plans (PDP’s) and Final Plans for each development phase.
Recommendation: Approval
Secretary Gerber reported that Paul Patterson urges the Board to consider requiring two neighborhood meetings
for a PUD. Article 5, Definitions, in Attachment 1 was updated in the packet with a new version on 5/29/18.
Section 2.1.1, 2.1.1, 2.1.3, and 2.1.6 were added to supplemental documents on 5/29/18.
Member Rollins recused herself
Member Hansen stated he had viewed a previous PUD presentation as a member of the Development
Review Advisory Committee.
Staff and Applicant Presentations
Planning Manager Gloss gave a brief overview of this project. This overview included a history of PUD’s in Fort
Collins, public benefits, standards to be set, community engagement and attributes of the proposed ordinance.
Public Input (3 minutes per person)
Mickey Willis, 150 Fairway Lane, would like to see smaller parcel sizes rather than the large 50-acre greenfield
parcels. Would like to recommend that the acreage be as little as 5-acre parcels.
Paul Patterson, would like a requirement for neighborhood meetings for PUDs to be set at two and timing be when
modifications and provisions of significant public benefit can be explicitly stated.
Staff Response
Planning Manager Gloss responded to Mr. Patterson’s concern about neighborhood meetings that the proposed
requirement that a second neighborhood meeting would be required after the first round of development review and
include requests for modification and the vesting of property rights.
In response to Mr. Willis’ comments, Planning Manager Gloss spoke to the parcel sizes and rationale for the staff’s
position relative to the size threshold.
Board Questions / Deliberation
Chair Schneider sought clarification as to whether or not this is in draft or final format. Planning Manager Gloss
explained that the element that is not complete is the specific techniques to amend the Larimer County Urban Area
Street Standards and Engineering Standards; otherwise, all other aspects are complete. Chair Schneider is
uncomfortable with making a decision due to potential changes from now until the final adoption version. Assistant
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City Attorney Schmidt responded that she agrees with Planning Manager Gloss and added that they were seeking
input from the Board early in the process.
Member Hobbs feels that PUDs have a large ramification for the community and it seems that outside of the P&Z
Board and the one other Board conversation was limited to talking to some in the development community.
Member Hansen expressed interest in other forms of community engagement. Planning Manager Gloss stated that
the outreach process with legislative changes of this type was appropriate, since staff anticipates outcomes being
better than plans that would go through a conventional process and that there would be a more rigorous public
review process. It is felt that these projects will be held to a higher standard.
Member Hobbs asked if it was reasonable to perceive that the PUD was like starting with a blank slate; zoning
defined uses, setbacks, densities, etc. Planning Manager Gloss commented that in theory one could make that
assumption however; the principals and policies of the Comprehensive Plan and detailed area plans still stand,
leaving the burden on the applicant to prove those values are embodied in the development plan.
Member Hansen spoke to significant public benefits as a requirement. As Member Hansen understands, there has
been a focus on removing subjectivity from the Land Use Code and this seems to be adding it in. How will we be
measuring significant public benefit? Planning Manager Gloss responded that we do not have a definition that
specifically states what this significant public benefit would be other than the PUD objectives. This is something
that would be weighed by the decision maker, being either this Board or City Council. Member Hansen stated is it
easy for him to agree in a small group with relatively common interests in mind but that he foresees that without a
way to quantify it could turn contentious. Member Hansen is in favor of the PUD, but feels if there is too much
uncertainty and onerous on developers, it will become another PDOD.
Member Hobbs asked why the PUD was stopped or left behind. Planning Manager Gloss understands that when
the system was previously in place there were a range of issues, for some it was a sense of less predictability,
concern from the public and development community about the length of time it took to get through the review
process, while others enjoyed the flexibility provided since our present code is highly prescriptive.
Member Hobbs asked what the rational was for differentiating below and above 640 acres? Planning Manager
Gloss responded that due to anything 640 acres or above is considered a legislative action and would need to go
before Council. Chair Schneider asked why 640 acres matters. Attorney Schmidt spoke to the history of the 640-
acre threshold, and that the concept is that, at some point, rezoning gets so large that is becomes more of a
legislative act than an application of a narrow set of standards to a piece of property. This community has set the
dividing line at one section. Chair Schneider asked that the goal then was to not change the zoning over the whole
640 acres. Would this automatically go to Council or come to the Planning and Zoning Board? Planning Manager
Gloss responded that the PUD overlay zone does not create a rezoning with the underlying zoning remaining the
same. Chair Schneider state that there was some confusion as it appears there is an opportunity to take property
and rezone/reuse and change what is there, why if we are not changing the use or overlying zoning, why do we
need a PUD? Planning Manager Gloss responded that the PUD Master Plan allows the applicant/property owner
to essentially have uses that are different than what is allowed under the underlying zoning without the act of
rezoning. Chair Schneider commented that the PUD Master Plan can change zoning and density and everything
else that is allowed on that property. Planning Manager Gloss agreed and stated that the burden of proof is on the
applicant and that this is an optional process. Attorney Schmidt commented that it is about creativity and allowing
that creativity in the context of an overall master development plan that is intended to consider compatibility with
existing areas around it and is intended to deliver something in terms of a high or better level of public benefit.
Chair Schneider does not feel there is anything that we can compare it to and wants to make sure that people
understand when they are buying property or have bought property in certain areas that they understand what they
are up against.
Member Hobbs feels that the Board must be careful with the effect on utilities, transportation, level of service
issues, and other areas. Even if it is a greenfield site, the Board must look at what is located further away.
Member Hobbs agrees and shares Chair Schneider’s hesitation.
Chair Schneider stated that it looks like we are getting rid of the PDOD process, Planning Manager Gloss answered
yes. Chair Schneider questioned what happens with the current project that is currently in the process. Planning
Manager Gloss stated that the project did not submit a formal application and that there is not a project currently in
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the process. Chair Schneider asked if we were getting rid of the APU process, Planning Manager Gloss answered
no. Chair Schneider questioned a statement in the APU, 1.34 C1B, and wondered if this was going to affect the
PUD. Planning Manager Gloss responded that this was a section that was not to be changed other than a few
minor text amendments. Member Hobbs asked for issues that transcend a zoning district like the setbacks from oil
wells - would these things still be on the table as a negotiable item in a PUD overlay? Planning Manager Gloss
stated that all article 3 and 4 standards remain except where a modification is being requested, evaluated and
granted under the PUD Master Plan process.
Chair Schneider asked about trash and recycling design and that the Director can waive the design standards.
Why are we not making this mandatory? Planning Manager Gloss responded that this is the way the code reads
today and that no changes are being proposed. Chair Schneider made mentioned of a letter received from Post
Modern Development and Mr. Patterson about requiring two (2) neighborhood meetings and wondered if this was
going to be mandated. Planning Manager Gloss stated that was correct. Prior to submittal and the second will
coincide with the first round of review. To answer questions posed by Post Modern Development, the staff
reviewed in its presentation the range of sizes and can understand about the 50-acre minimum. Considerations
would be made for other size thresholds. Chair Schneider referred to section 2.10 1 A-G and 2 A-E. Planning
Manager Gloss responded that these sections relate to how an amendment would happen when you have a PUD
Master Plan. For the most part, the PUD Master Plan amendment process mirrors what has been done for other
types of applications.
Deliberation
Member Hobbs feels it is good for the community and offers flexibility to staff and will not become another PDOD,
however; he is not at a point where he is comfortable voting on a recommendation and would like a continuation.
Member Hansen agrees with Member Hobbs’ approach and offered suggestions. Developers will be able to think
out of the box a bit. Some suggestions may be to devise a point system; he is also concerned about the parcel size
of the threshold of 50 acres. Member Hansen also spoke to Chair Schneider’s concerns.
Chair Schneider is not against the proposal, he feels is has been pushed too hard, too fast. There needs to be an
opportunity for discussion and that if it is larger than 640 acres it becomes a political conversation, and that is not
what the Land Use Code is about, it is about what is available and what is being used on that property. The size
should go less than 50 acres. He would like this item to be continued
Member Hobbs stated that the same two issues are also of concern to him. He is concerned about the surrounding
effects of the larger PUDs that will come down. He would also like to discuss the possibility of appeal for Land Use.
Member Hansen asked why there was a sense of urgency. Planning Manager Gloss responded that they had a
target of August 1, 2018, roughly and even if there continued to the June 21, 2018 hearing, they would remain on
that schedule.
Member Hobbs made a motion that the Fort Collins Planning and Zoning Board continue the Planned Unit
Development Overlay Land Use Code changes included in the Board’s May 31, 2018 agenda to a future
hearing date. Member Whitley seconded. Member Whitley would like more time to understand all of it. Chair
Schneider agreed and is looking forward to a full work session. Vote: 4:0.
2. Oasis on Olive PDP180003
Project Description: This is a request to develop a 3-story multi-family, condominium building and ground level
parking on approximately .223 acres of existing vacant land, located at 310 W. Olive Street. The 7-market rate
residential units will be a mix of 3 1-bedroom units, and 4 2-bedroom units. The building includes 8,468 of living
space, and 7 parking spaces provided at the ground level in an enclosed parking garage. Access to this site will be
from W. Olive Street by means of a one-way private entry drive into the garage, and one-way exit to Canyon
Avenue from a private drive. The site located in the Downtown (D) zone district, is subject to a Type II Planning and
Zoning Board Review.
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Recommendation: Approval
Secretary Gerber reported that an applicant response to LPC condition #3 was added to Supplemental Documents
on 5/30/2018.
Staff and Applicant Presentations
Planner Wray gave a brief overview of this project which included a PowerPoint presentation. This is a three-story
multi-family condo with ground level parking.
The Applicant, Cathy Mathis of TB Group gave a brief presentation explaining circulation, entry and exit via a
private drive and the overall look of the building.
Planner Wray clarified a few points in relation to the parking requirements, Landmark Preservation Commission –
through discussion the LPC provided a recommendation including conditions. Parking requirements are based on
number of bedrooms, at this site, because of the TOD overlay, the requirement is 6 available spaces. The PDP is
showing 7 spaces. The Landmark Preservation Commission forwarded a recommendation showing compliance
with Land Use Code section 3.4.7 if the four conditions are met (conditions stated in motion). Planner Wray spoke
of the historic rose garden location and documentation.
Public Input (3 minutes per person)
Brian Cook, member of the Historic Preservation Code and Process Review Committee and member of the
neighborhood, spoke to his concern on exposure and the surprise he had with the proposed building. He is
concerned with the amount of noise the prospective residents will endure and cause with additional development in
the downtown area.
Staff Response
Cathy Mathis stated that they will not have the standard metal receptacle, but rather the regular residential carts.
As for the sunlight and the historic roses, Cathy referred to Planner Wray. Planner Wray explained where the
plants would best thrive with the landscape layout and it would also include some gathering space in the yard.
Chair Schneider asked if staff was ok without a final plan. Planner Wray stated that staff would be ok.
Board Questions / Deliberation
Member Hansen asked where specifically the rose garden was located on the site. Karen McWilliams, Historic
Preservation Manager explained where the historic rose garden was located and that they are thriving and that the
street trees do not present an issue.
Member Whitley asked if the building height would impact the solar access to the rose garden. Mrs. McWilliams
stated that shading would not be significant.
Member Rollins asked for neighboring properties were owned by the same individual. Mrs. McWilliams responded
yes. Member Rollins asked if the rose garden would be a common area. Responses, that is correct. Member
Rollins wanted to know what guarantees we had that the current owner would not sell off the property and a fence
is built. Planner Wray responded that was a possibility and that the intent was to further extend the common area
for all three properties. He believes there was a recommendation of supporting not adding a fence with this project.
Mrs. McWilliams stated that Historic Preservation recommends that there not be a fence built. Member Rollins
asked if a condition of no fence be added to a condition of the site plan. Mrs. Mathis stated that the owner is
passionate about the properties and he would in support of a condition of no fence, and that she is willing to allow
the condition to be added without the presence of the owner.
Member Hobbs asked if a sale were to happen would the condition stand. Discussion between Board members
took place, Attorney Schmidt responded that the Board think about a covenant that binds the properties.
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Member Hobbs was curious of roses having designated status and if they did want to place a fence would it have to
be reviewed by LPC. Mrs. McWilliams stated that it would need to come before the LPC depending on which
property the fence would be built behind. Monitoring would not happen.
Member Hansen wanted to know how the trash was going to be brought out to the bins. Mrs. Mathis stated it would
be carried out to the bins.
Member Hansen questioned the parking on the street and how much is available. Planner Wray stated that it
varies and is time limited to two-hours.
Member Rollins wondered why there could not be two-way parking as opposed to one-way. Planner Wray
commented that because of existing trees being preserved, the drive will be narrower in width and that they will
retain the current access points.
Member Rollins made a motion that the Fort Collins Planning and Zoning Board approve Oasis on Olive
PDP #180003
with the following conditions:
1. Provide an identifiable entrance with a door into the building; if from a design standpoint that is
not feasible, then the LPC would accept an identifiable entry into the site (to comply with
3.4.7) (F)(2)).
2. Horizontal elements such as the roofline facia should align across the building (to comply with
3.4.7) (F)(2)).
3. The rose garden should be relocated to a location where it will get adequate exposure to the sun
so that the roses thrive; and the location should be in a place where it is a prominent feature of
the
site (to comply with 3.4.7) (F)(5)).
4. The current conditions and location of the historic rose garden will be documented before
relocation (to comply with 3.4.7) (F)(5)).
5. The additional condition related to LPC Condition #3 recommended by staff: the Low Impact
Development (LID) design for the site can be completed at Final Design with the stipulation that
the site provide treatment of 50% of the proposed impervious area with an approved and
appropriately sized LID method that does not impair the location or function of the historic rose
garden. This will include removal of the proposed rain garden facility (South of the stair tower)
to allow for an expanded heritage planting area (see Oasis on Olive LPC EXHIBIT 1).
6. That no fence shall be installed along the East property line between 231 S. Howes and 310 W.
Olive and such conditions shall be included in a legally binding covenant with respect to both
properties.
This approval and condition(s) are based upon the agenda materials, the information and materials
presented during the work session and this hearing, and the board discussion on this item with the
following findings:
The PDP complies with all applicable Land Use Code requirements as stated in the staff report
prepared for this hearing and contained in the agenda materials.
The information, analysis, findings of fact, and conclusions contained in the staff report included in
the agenda materials for this hearing are adopted by this Board.
Member Hobbs seconded. Member Whitley continues to be uncomfortable with the drive. Vote: 5:0.
Other Business
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None noted
Adjournment
Chair Schneider moved to adjourn the P&Z Board hearing. The meeting was adjourned at 8:25pm.
Minutes respectfully submitted by Shar Gerber.
Minutes approved by a vote of the Board on: