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Meg Dunn, Chair City Council Chambers
Alexandra Wallace, Vice Chair City Hall West
Michael Bello 300 Laporte Avenue
Katie Dorn Fort Collins, Colorado
Kristin Gensmer
Per Hogestad
Kevin Murray
Mollie Simpson
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Regular Meeting
April 18, 2018
Minutes
• CALL TO ORDER
Chair Dunn called the meeting to order at 5:31 p.m.
• ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Dunn, Wallace, Hogestad, Gensmer, Simpson, Dorn, Bello, Murray
ABSENT: None
STAFF: Bzdek, Bumgarner, Yatabe, Schiager
• AGENDA REVIEW
No changes to posted agenda.
• STAFF REPORTS
None
Landmark
Preservation
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• PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
None
• CONSENT AGENDA
1. CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE FEBRUARY 21, 2018 REGULAR
MEETING.
The purpose of this item is to approve the minutes from the February 21, 2018 regular meeting of the
Landmark Preservation Commission.
2. CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE MARCH 21, 2018 REGULAR
MEETING.
The purpose of this item is to approve the minutes from the March 21, 2018 regular meeting of the
Landmark Preservation Commission.
3. 524 WHEDBEE STREET - FINAL DEMOLITION/ALTERATION REVIEW
PROJECT DESCRIPTION: This is a proposal to add a rear, 1 ½ story addition to the residence.
The property was determined to be individually eligible as a Fort
Collins Landmark.
APPLICANT: Alison Johnson, ABD.
Ms. Wallace moved that the Landmark Preservation Commission approve the items on the
Consent Agenda. Ms. Gensmer seconded. The motion passed 8:0.
• DISCUSSION AGENDA
4. MCMILLEN-PATTERSON PROPERTY 121 NORTH GRANT - APPLICATION FOR FORT COLLINS
LANDMARK DESIGNATION
PROJECT DESCRIPTION: This item is to consider the request for a recommendation to City
Council regarding landmark designation for the McMillen-Patterson
Property, an excellent example of an Eastlake-style home from the
late 1880s.
APPLICANT: Susan Hoskinson, Owner
Chair Dunn recused herself from this item.
Vice Chair Wallace acted as Chair for this item.
Ms. Gensmer disclosed she was not present for the work session,
but had reviewed the recording and is prepared to participate in the discussion.
Staff Report
Ms. Bumgarner presented the staff report. She provided some background on the property, its
architectural style and features, and explained staff’s rationale for recommending landmark designation
of the property.
Applicant Presentation
Ms. Hoskinson, the homeowner, spoke to the Commission about the landmark application. She
expressed appreciation for the City Historic Preservation staff and the State Historical Fund for
supporting the Loomis Addition survey, which was a key factor in her decision to apply for landmark
status.
Public Input
Ms. Humstone, the consultant who prepared the application, thanked Ms. Hoskinson and her family for
their dedication to this historic resource. She noted that this will be the second home in the Loomis
Addition to be designated.
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Commission Questions and Discussion
Mr. Murray commented that this a “no-brainer” for designation, and added that the inside is as well-
kept as the outside.
Ms. Dorn thanked the Applicant for bringing this forward and recommended she apply for future
financial incentives.
Acting Chair Wallace asked if the Commission members had any comments about the property’s
significance under Standard A. She also asked staff if they had considered significance under Standard
B. Ms. Bumgarner said the Commission could consider Standard B at their discretion. Ms. Gensmer
supported designation under Standards A and C alone, but stated she would not object to adding
Standard B, if other Commission members felt strongly about it.
Acting Chair Wallace asked the Commission if they agreed with that the property has retained all
aspects of exterior integrity, and everyone agreed that all seven aspects were intact.
Ms. Simpson asked about the location of the additions to the home, which Ms. Bumgarner pointed out
in the back of the home. Acting Chair Wallace noted that the additions were done with great sensitivity
to the original architecture, and are not easy to spot.
Commission Deliberation
Ms. Gensmer moved that the Landmark Preservation Commission pass a resolution
recommending that City Council designate the McMillen-Patterson Property at 121 N. Grant as
a Fort Collins Landmark in accordance with Municipal Code Chapter 14, based on the property’s
significance under Standards A and C; under A for its history in the development of the Loomis
Addition and its use as a show home in the marketing of one of the earliest neighborhoods in
the City, and under C for its design as an Eastlake style residence, and also finding that it retains
a preponderance of exterior integrity.
Ms. Simpson seconded. The motion passed 7:0.
5. 903 STOVER – CONCEPTUAL/FINAL DESIGN REVIEW
PROJECT DESCRIPTION: The applicant is seeking a report of acceptability from the Landmark
Preservation Commission for repair of damaged material on the front
porch of the residence, a drainage mitigation solution to prevent future
damage, and preparation and painting of the repaired porch and the
entire residence.
APPLICANT/OWNER: Karen and Timothy Bren
Chair Dunn returned to the meeting.
Mr. Murray recused himself from this item due to a conflict.
Staff Report
Ms. Bzdek presented the staff report. She described the property and its significance under Standards
B & C for which it was designated a landmark. She discussed the proposed alterations. She described
Staff’s findings of fact to support approval of the alterations. Ms. Bzdek reminded the Commission that
they are in a conceptual review until they determine they are ready to move to final review. Finally, she
reviewed the questions and conditions the Commission brought up at the work session, and explained
the applicant and contractor responses.
Applicant Presentation
Mr. Bren addressed the Commission, commenting on the condition of the porch and emphasizing the
need for drainage mitigation.
Public Input
None
Commission Questions and Discussion
Mr. Hogestad said that power washing at 1000 psi would blow holes in the wood, and that 30 psi is
probably more accurate. Ms. Bzdek said that was likely in error, adding that the contractor had
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characterized the strength of the spray as that of a soft rain, safe to spray at a person. Mr. Bello said
the power washing was probably the right methodology, as long as it is not actually 1000 psi. Mr. Bren
stated that the contractor had told him it was 1000 psi when it leaves the hose, but not when it reaches
the home.
Ms. Simpson asked where the moisture on the porch goes currently. Mr. Bren explained that the water
accumulates in the front corners. The purpose of the vent is to create increased evaporation.
Mr. Hogestad asked exactly where the vent would go. Mr. Bren was uncertain of its exact location. Mr.
Hogestad expressed concern about how much historic material will be removed to install the vent,
adding that installing it above the cleat would be preferable. Mr. Bren replied that they will try to keep
it “as is” as much as possible.
There was discussion among the members that they were not ready for final review without more details
about the psi and the positioning of the vent. Mr. Hogestad said it was unfortunate that the contractor
was not present to provide clarification. Ms. Bzdek said the contractor had stated he would cut the vent
in the vertical wood section right at grade, not above the cleat. Mr. Hogestad and Ms. Simpson noted
that the drawing does not portray that, making it difficult to approve.
Chair Dunn asked Mr. Yatabe if the Commission could provide a report of acceptability with conditions.
Mr. Yatabe said he was not seeing any provision for the imposition of conditions of approval on a report
of acceptability. Regarding whether the Commission can move to final review without all the
information, he said that would depend on the vote on the motion.
Chair Dunn asked if someone wanted to make a motion to move to final review. Mr. Hogestad restated
that there are two pieces of missing information: the psi and the vent positioning. Ms. Gensmer and
Ms. Wallace agreed that the Commission needed more information on those. Chair Dunn suggested
the contractor come to the next meeting.
Ms. Bzdek asked for clarity on what the Applicant needs to bring to the next meeting. Chair Dunn
asked for the exact psi of the power washing, and detail about the cut for the vent. Mr. Hogestad said
more specifically that they need an elevation drawing of where the air vent will be placed, and an
accompanying section to show what material is being affected by it. He said they would also like to
know what psi pressure range is standard for power washing historic buildings, and whether the
proposed power washing will meet that standard.
6. 1501 PETERSON – CONCEPTUAL/FINAL DESIGN REVIEW
PROJECT DESCRIPTION: The applicant is seeking a report of acceptability from the Landmark
Preservation Commission for new storm and screen units in the first
and second stories.
APPLICANT/OWNER: Sally and Robert Linton
Mr. Murray returned to the meeting.
Staff Report
Ms. Bzdek presented the staff report. She discussed the property’s designation under Standard A,
reviewed the proposed alterations, and explained that the window work would be accomplished in
phases. She addressed the questions the Commission had asked during the work session, and
outlined staff’s findings of fact.
Applicant Presentation
Mr. Linton, the homeowner, thanked the Commission for their important work, and thanked Ms. Bzdek
for her assistance. He explained the reasoning for doing the work in phases.
Public Input
None
Commission Questions and Discussion
Mr. Murray brought up the psi for the power washing of the windows, and suggested testing the power
washer on a piece of wood before using on the windows.
Mr. Hogestad asked if the Commission is only considering the work for Phase 1 at this time, and not
any of the carpentry work. Chair Dunn answered in the affirmative.
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Mr. Murray asked about the clips on the storms. Mr. Linton said the current hanging systems will be
replaced with like mechanisms, identical to those that were there in 1918. He explained that the window
systems are necessary to facilitate ventilation and efficiency of cooling and heating without removing
and replacing the storms with the seasons.
Chair Dunn asked about the mechanism, and Mr. Linton and Ms. Bzdek clarified that it is a hinge, not
a crank, and would not be seen from the exterior. Mr. Murray asked for a drawing of the system.
Mr. Hogestad expressed concern about how the system fits in the space, and the thickness of the
assembly. Mr. Linton explained that Phase 1 includes the exterior storms only, and Ms. Bzdek clarified
that the porch windows and mull cap will not be dealt with in Phase 1. Mr. Murray said he supports the
storm windows, but needs to understand the system. Mr. Linton said there would be no variations in
the interior depth. Mr. Murray said it sounded like a storm/screen combination. Mr. Hogestad said the
Commission needs to see a cut sheet with detail on the entire assembly and how it is mounted.
Ms. Simpson asked if the screen was hidden when the window is closed, and how it interacts with the
opening and closing of the window. Mr. Linton said his contractor would need to answer that.
Mr. Hogestad said he needs to know more about the windows. Mr. Murray stated that he trusts the
contractor, Mark Wernimont, to know what he’s doing, but would still like to see the system and more
information.
Mr. Hogestad stated he doesn’t think the sections are correct, and suggested the contractor revisit
them. Mr. Murray proposed that the Commission wait until the next meeting, when they can have more
information. Chair Dunn said they need the contractor to provide the cut sheets and the psi for the
power washing. Mr. Hogestad added that they need more detail about the depth of space for assembly
to fit and how will it fit without removing stops or doing carpentry work on the historic fabric.
7. 223 WILLOW - CONCEPTUAL DEVELOPMENT REVIEW
PROJECT DESCRIPTION: This is a proposed 5-story, multi-family apartment project at 223 Willow
in the River District. The current use of this 2.04-acre lot is industrial,
storage, and truck parking. It is bounded by the Union Pacific Railroad on
the south.
APPLICANT: Katy Candau, Oz Architecture
Ms. Simpson disclosed that her firm is working on another project in the area, but does not
believe this creates any bias.
[Secretary’s Note: Throughout the meeting, the Giddings Machine Shop at 401 Pine Street is also
referred to as Bas Blue or the machine shop; and Ginger and Baker at 359 Linden is also referred to as
the Feeder Supply.]
Staff Report
Ms. Bzdek presented the staff report, describing the location and the proposed area of adjacency for
this proposed development. She described the architectural features of 200 Jefferson, which is a
contributing building to the National Register Historic District. She also provided information about 401
Pine, which is a local landmark. She discussed the questions from the work session. She also
referenced the correspondence received about his project, and the Applicant’s response.
Applicant Presentation
Eduardo Illanes of Oz Architecture gave the Applicant presentation. He discussed the redevelopment
of the area. He talked about the adjacent buildings, and pointed out the ways in which the proposed
project complies with the guidelines for the River District in Section 4.17 of the Land Use Code. He
mentioned the importance of maintaining and respecting the urban grid. He explained that the site is
broken into two buildings to articulate the visual connectivity to Pine and the alignment of the Depot as
the focal point. He discussed the mass of the buildings and how they step into the river and the street.
He talked about how the project relates to pedestrian connectivity, and creating gathering places with
community pocket parks.
He talked about compatibility with the character of the adjacent buildings, stating that the project relates
to the machine shop in terms of height. He pointed out the community green space in the design.
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He stated the buildings hide the cars from the street. He pointed out the planned parking garage with
two levels and the outdoor deck for future occupants on the third level.
He explained the cross sections provided in the packet, drawing attention to the heights of Ginger and
Baker and the new Millhouse, which is four stories. He discussed the proposed buildings in relation to
the neighboring buildings, such as Ginger and Baker, the machine shop and the Depot, pointing out
the areas where the buildings are stepped down, and set back.
He talked how the design relates to the adjacent buildings in materials, texture and pattern. He
discussed breaking up the mass of the façade along Willow, and how it mimics the size of the machine
shop in terms of width.
Public Input
None
Commission Questions and Discussion
Mr. Hogestad asked Ms. Bzdek if any part of the Feeder Supply property is within the 200’ area of
adjacency. She pointed out where the property boundary touches the buffer area. Mr. Hogestad said
he believed the Feeder Supply should be included in the area of adjacency, noting that it offers a lot of
architectural clues.
Ms. Simpson asked for clarification about the cross section showing the offsets from the right-of-way
line. Mr. Illanes said the offset was measured from the main façade.
Mr. Bello asked about the lap siding that was mentioned as a nod to the residential buildings. Mr.
Illanes pointed out its location on the back side of the building.
Chair Dunn asked if any of the houses on Pine were eligible, noting that that they are located outside
the buffer at Poudre and Pine. Ms. Bzdek was uncertain about the eligibility of those houses.
Mr. Murray commented that the sign shop was brick, and said he thought the houses on Pine were
wood frame.
Mr. Hogestad asked the Applicant to explain the different materials and the systems used, and how
they are attached. Mr. Illanes described the various materials. In response to another question from
Mr. Hogestad, he said the brick was “true brick” and the cement panels are a rainscreen system.
Mr. Murray asked how the building connects to Giddings and Union Pacific. Mr. Illanes explained that
the top of the brick is the same as what is across the street. Chair Dunn noted that the building recesses
back on Willow to reference Giddings, and asked how it is set back to reference the Depot. Mr. Illanes
said that based on the guidelines in Section 4.17, the reference is to Willow Street, not to the Depot.
However, he noted that the massing is reduced at the ends of the building on the Depot side.
Mr. Hogestad asked for details about the lap siding. Mr. Illanes said it was cement board, and described
the panels. Mr. Hogestad commented on the lack of grounding for the brick, stating that it doesn’t
address the historic building and ignores the character of brick. He added that if it were a thin veneer,
it might work, but this is a big heavy band in full width brick with no visible means of support.
Ms. Simpson asked the Applicant to expand on his concept of pushing the first level back from the right-
of-way. Mr. Illanes responded by explaining the code requires a setback at the third level on the street
sides or the river front, but does not specify how far back. He said the first floor is recessed back so
that it feels a like porch for the occupants. Ms. Simpson said the shadow line makes the brick look
more daunting.
Mr. Hogestad noted that the recessed ground level is problematic and is a programmatic element rather
than responding to anything historic. He suggested the building could push back or scale down to allow
more room for patios and soften the building quite a bit.
Mr. Bello probed for more insight about the grounding of the brick, and asked whether square brick
columns instead of the round columns might satisfy Mr. Hogestad’s concerns. Mr. Hogestad explained
that there is historic precedent for how brick is handled, how it meets grade, and how it is an extension
of the load bearing brick wall. Mr. Illanes asked if he would rather have the brick wall come to the
ground for the purpose of historical reference. Mr. Hogestad answered in the affirmative, and noted
that the examples of brick buildings used in the presentation are like that. Mr. Bello asked whether
more substantial brick columns might satisfy that need. Mr. Hogestad said that might be something to
look at, but he was not offering a solution.
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Ms. Wallace asked how the design shows sensitivity to the height of the historic buildings per Section
3.4.7. Mr. Illanes explained how the design complies with Section 4.17 which allows for 5 stories and
requires the building to be set back from the street. Chair Dunn commented that while the setback on
the 4th story may match Giddings, there is no reference to the Depot in terms of height. Mr. Illanes
mentioned that the machine shop was 38’ and the Depot was 42’4” at its highest point. Mr. Bello
commented that there may be two conflicting historic building heights to reference. Chair Dunn said
the predominant height of the Depot is 25’8”, but the gable reaches to 42’, and commented that they
really aren’t that different in comparison to 65’ for the new construction. Mr. Hogestad suggested that
a more significant stepback might help to mitigate that. He also suggested something in the
architecture, possibly a material change or change in planes, would help indicate the rhythm of historic
building fronts which is lacking.
Chair Dunn brought up building width as discussed in Section 3.4.7(f). She noted that the building to
the northeast of Pine Street approximates the width of historic buildings, but the building to the
southwest of Pine Street is quite wide compared to Giddings, which the brick ribbon accentuates rather
than mitigates.
Mr. Hogestad said typical historic windows are taller than they are wide, and recommended
reconsidering the proportion of the windows to be more vertical, based on the requirements of Section
3.4.7. He also requested a section showing the relationship between the rainscreen and the windows.
Chair Dunn asked Mr. Illanes to address maintaining the pattern of primary entrances per 3.4.7(f)2. Mr.
Illanes explained that the building gateway is in the space between the buildings, connected by a pocket
park. Chair Dunn requested a better view of the doors, noting that historic buildings have a very clear
entrance and that Section 3.4.7(f)2 states the pattern of entrances facing the street shall be maintained.
Chair Dunn reviewed Section 3.4.7(f)3, and commented that brick is the primary material on the
adjacent historic buildings, but is not primary on this. Mr. Illanes noted that the guidelines for the district
allow a diversity of materials, and this design breaks up the mass by breaking up the materiality. Mr.
Hogestad noted that the Commission is looking at the Land Use Code, not the suggested guidelines
for the district.
Chair Dunn referred to the Code language requiring that new construction maintain the existing
distribution of materials in the same block. Chair Dunn noted that Giddings, the Depot and Ginger &
Baker are all brick. Mr. Illanes talked about referencing the white color of the materials, and ground
level light masonry, adding that it is very challenging to do an all brick building. Chair Dunn clarified
that brick should be the dominant material.
Mr. Bello asked if it was enough to reference the white brick by color. Chair Dunn talked about the
scale of brick versus cement board. Mr. Illanes asked if using a different rhythm of smaller scale would
suffice. Mr. Hogestad said they need to find a human scale. Mr. Illanes asked whether human scale
was most important at the pedestrian level. Mr. Hogestad said some of the panels could be broken
into a scale more closely resembling masonry.
Chair Dunn pointed out there is no brick on the back of the building to relate to the Depot. Mr. Illanes
mentioned that the parking structure is on that side because of the train, and the material there is
cement board. He said the panel could be broken into more of a brick scale.
Ms. Simpson commented that the rendering facing south has a lot more variation and is more broken
up, making that side more inviting. Mr. Hogestad said that side relates more to the historic module. He
mentioned again that the unsupported brick is unsettling, but clarified that he isn’t suggesting a
colonnade, just that the brick needs to be grounded so it looks like it is bearing some weight.
Mr. Bello agreed that the more visible side is disappointing in terms of human scale. Mr. Illanes
interpreted these comments as direction to play with the materiality and make the back more similar to
the front. Mr. Bello clarified it should be similar in terms of colors and materials. Ms. Dorn said the
back of the building was a good opportunity to reference the Depot with materials and height, but also
in terms of breaking up materials. Ms. Gensmer mentioned that the dark gray color behind the Depot
feels like a fortress, and suggested keeping color in mind as they play with the materials.
Ms. Wallace noted that the prominent elevation in the rear serves as an introduction to the River District,
and she would like to see more creativity in the design. Mr. Illanes mentioned that the River District is
agricultural and industrial, using a lot of metal, which is encouraged in guidelines. Chair Dunn reminded
Mr. Illanes that the Commission is only concerned with the historic buildings.
Ms. Simpson said using corten or other materials could make the buildings feel warmer. She also said,
while she thinks they can make improvements with stepbacks and massing in terms of height and form,
she appreciated that they created three individual pieces, which makes the overall scale smaller. Chair
Dunn said she was glad to see Pine Street included.
Mr. Hogestad said aside from setbacks, there is no modulation of the height of the buildings, which
would reduce the horizontal, bunker effect on the front of the building. He also agreed with previous
comments that the dark gray color on the back doesn't help.
Chair Dunn summarized the Commissions comments as follows:
• The brick wall should come to ground in some way.
• There should be a more significant stepback.
• There should be some modulation to mimic the width of the Giddings building.
• The window proportions should have more verticality.
• Consider materiality.
Ms. Simpson suggested including comments about the height. Mr. Hogestad said the modulation of
the parapet, and stepping of buildings, would speak to the height. Chair Dunn agreed that modulation
and other things could moderate the height.
Mr. lllanes thanked the Commission for their comments.
• OTHER BUSINESS
Chair Dunn explained that Staff has written a letter in support of the Colorado State Tax Credits for the
Commission to consider sending. Chair Dunn read the letter to the Commission. Chair Dunn said
encouraged the members to also send letters as individuals. Members supported sending the letter.
Chair Dunn shared that Historic Larimer County will be showing "The Greenest Building" which talks
about LEED certification and historic buildings.
• ADJOURNMENT
Chair Dunn adjourned the meeting at 8:03 p.m.
Minutes respectfully submitted by Gretchen Schiager.
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