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Alan Cram, Chair City Council Chambers
Tim Johnson, Vice Chair City Hall West
Brad Massey 300 Laporte Avenue
Bernie Marzonie Fort Collins, Colorado
Katharine Penning
Rick Reider Staff Liaison:
Justin Robinson Russ Hovland
Chief Building Official
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Regular Meeting Minutes
March 29, 2018
A regular meeting of the Building Review Board was held on Thursday, March 29, 2018, at
1:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the Fort Collins Municipal Building at 300 Laporte Avenue, Fort
Collins, Colorado.
• CALL TO ORDER
Mr. Reider, Acting Chair in Chair Cram’s absence, called the meeting to order at 1:06 p.m.
• ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Massey, Marzonie, Penning, Reider
ABSENT: Cram, Johnson, Robinson
STAFF: Hovland, Van Hall, Schiager
• PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
None.
• DISCUSSION AGENDA
1. CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE FEBRUARY 22, 2018 MEETING.
Mr. Massey pointed out a typo in the minutes. Ms. Schiager stated the correction would be made prior
to publication of the minutes.
Mr. Massey moved to approve the minutes of the February 22, 2018 meeting, with the specified
correction. Ms. Penning seconded. The motion passed 4:0.
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2. WILLIAM TERNES REQUEST FOR VARIANCE FROM WRITTEN EXAM REQUIREMENT
DESCRIPTION: Mr. Ternes of Custom Design Storage Sheds and Garages has
requested a variance from the requirements of Municipal Code
Section 15-157(c) that he must pass a written exam prior to obtaining
a supervisor certificate, after his current supervisor certificate and
contractor’s license had been expired for more than 60 days. If this
variance is granted the Mr. Ternes will be granted a supervisor
certificate and contractor license without passing a written exam.
The Appellant was not present. Shar Gerber, Customer and Admin Services Manager, stated she had
called him at 1:00 p.m., just prior to the meeting being called to order, to inquire as to his whereabouts.
She stated he was unable to attend the meeting, and he claimed he was not notified of the date and
time of the meeting. She said he asked about rescheduling, but upon learning the date of the next
meeting, he informed her he was unable to attend the April meeting.
Ms. Gerber stated that Mr. Ternes had been given a copy of the appeal form indicating the date and
time of the meeting. Mr. Hovland asked Mr. Van Hall whether the Board could make a decision based
on the information included in the application and the staff report. Mr. Van Hall stated that would be at
the discretion of the Board.
Acting Chair Reider asked whether Mr. Ternes had any construction projects in progress that would be
a reason to expedite the proceedings. Ms. Gerber stated Mr. Ternes had closed his business in 2009,
so there are no active permits, but he now intends to resume the business. Ms. Gerber shared
additional details from Mr. Ternes application for variance.
Acting Chair Reider asked Mr. Hovland his thoughts on whether to proceed or reschedule. Mr. Hovland
stated he would prefer to proceed, and explained his recommendation to deny the request.
Ms. Penning noted that according to the records included in the agenda packet, Mr. Ternes’ previous
license was restricted due to his inability to pass the test. Given that, and the fact that he did not appear
for the hearing, she supported following Staff’s recommendation to deny Mr. Ternes’ request.
Mr. Marzonie agreed with Ms. Penning’s position.
The Board discussed whether to move forward. Mr. Hovland clarified that if no action is taken, Mr.
Ternes remains in the unlicensed status. Mr. Hovland asked Mr. Van Hall whether there was any
precedent for moving forward with a hearing without the contractor being present. Mr. Van Hall was
not aware of any, but noted he has been representing the Board for only six months. Mr. Hovland
deferred to the Board to determine whether to move forward or continue to the next hearing, and
reiterated his recommendation to deny the request, adding that he did not believe the Appellant had a
strong case. He reviewed the Appellant’s options for testing, and restated his preference for moving
forward with a decision.
Ms. Penning agreed, emphasizing the importance of knowing the code, particularly with all the changes
since 1997. Mr. Massey agreed with Ms. Penning, commenting that the Appellant had already failed
the test twice, and he should be required to pass it.
Mr. Marzonie made a motion to proceed in the absence of the Appellant. Ms. Penning seconded.
The motion passed 4:0.
Staff Presentation
Ms. Gerber presented the staff report, reviewing the materials included in the packet.
Board Questions of Staff and Parties-in-Interest
Ms. Penning suggested the Board should take into consideration Mr. Ternes’ specialization of garages
and sheds. Acting Chair Reider asked whether Mr. Ternes had ever passed the test. Mr. Hovland
replied that he had not, and that he had also applied for and received permits for basement finishes,
which were outside his specialization.
Mr. Massey commented that 15 years ago the Board had approved his license for sheds and garages
only, yet he had attempted to use it for basement finishes. He said that reinforces in his mind the need
for the Appellant to take the test.
Motion
Mr. Massey moved to deny Mr. Ternes' variance request and uphold the City's recommendation
that he be required to pass the written exam.
Ms. Penning seconded.
Acting Chair Reider asked Mr. Van Hall if the language of the motion was sufficient, and Mr. Van Hall
suggested some additional language. Mr. Massey amended his motion as follows:
Mr. Massey moved to deny Mr. Ternes' variance request and uphold the City's recommendation
that he be required to pass the written exam, because not doing so could be a detriment to the
public good, and would impair the intent and purpose of Chapter 15 of the Municipal Code.
Ms. Penning renewed her second.
The motion passed 4:0.
Acting Chair Reider asked about next steps. Mr. Hovland stated that he would contact Mr. Ternes' to
inform him of the Board's decision and advise him of his options, including an appeal to Council.
• OTHER BUSINESS
Mr. Hovland asked whether the Board wished to continue to hear these kinds of contractor licensing
cases, or if they would prefer that Staff handle them administratively. In response to questions from
Mr. Marzonie, Staff explained that a notification goes out approximately two months prior to expiration,
and there is a 60-day grace period to renew after expiration. Mr. Marzonie said that seemed generous.
Mr. Massey said he felt Mr. Hovland could use discretion if there are extenuating circumstances. Mr.
Hovland stated that the goal is consistency and following the code, adding that the minutes from a
hearing would be a good reference for precedent and disposition of these cases. Ms. Penning recalled
to last month's decision to grant a temporary license, noting that the Board should make those
decisions. Acting Chair Reider agreed, and said he appreciated Mr. Hovland's attempts to be
consistent and fair. He went on to say that many industries require licensing and most are not very
lenient regarding expiration. Mr. Hovland said many contractors had commented that they don't think
they could pass the test, and hadn't opened a code book in years. He expressed concerns about that
and explained that they are encouraging contractors to keep current. Mr. Hovland said Staff will
continue to follow the code and utilize the Board as they have been.
Ms. Gerber updated the Board on the status of last month's case. There was some discussion about
how testing is scheduled.
• ADJOURNMENT
Acting Chair Reider adjourned the meeting at 1 :43 p.m.
Minutes respectfully submitted by Gretchen Schiager.
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Alan Cram, Chair
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