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July 12, 2018
Energy Board Minutes
July 12, 2018
Fort Collins Utilities Energy Board Minutes
Thursday, July 12, 2018
Energy Board Chairperson
Nick Michell, 970-215-9235
City Council Liaison
Ross Cunniff, 970-420-7398
Energy Board Vice Chairperson
Amanda Shores, 408-391-0062
Staff Liaison
Tim McCollough, 970-305-1069
Roll Call
Board Present: Chairperson Nick Michell, Vice Chairperson Amanda Shores, Alan Braslau, Stacey
Baumgarn, Krishna Karnamadakala, John Fassler
Late Arrivals: Bill Becker
Board Absent: Jeremy Giovando, Greg Behm
Others Present
Staff: John Phelan, Marisa Olivas, Kevin Gertig, Rhonda Gatzke, Cyril Vidergar
Platte River Power Authority: Andy Butcher, Alyssa Clemsen Roberts
Members of the Public: Fred Kirsh, Kevin Jones
Meeting Convened
Chairperson Michell called the meeting to order at 5:35 p.m.
Public Comment
None
Approval of June 14 Board Meeting Minutes
In preparation for the meeting, board members submitted amendments via email for the June 14, 2018
minutes. The minutes were approved as amended.
Announcements and Agenda Changes
John Phelan announced that the 100% Renewable Electricity Goal (100RE) Resolution memo went to
City Council (Council) that evening, July 12, 2018. Mr. Phelan also announced that the Innovate Fort
Collins Challenge Pitch Night is coming up, a competitive grant like process that the City is running for
innovation proposals in the climate action space. The team running Innovate Fort Collins Challenge Pitch
Night is looking for judges to take part in the event on August 30, 2018. A Watershed Bus Tour is taking
place on July 18, 2018, a Source to Switch Electricity Tour called Power Trip.
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Staff Reports
Executive Director Update
Kevin Gertig, Utilities Executive Director
(attachments available upon request)
Kevin Gertig shared that in July of 2018 Light & Power (L&P) is receiving Council direction and updates
regarding 100RE. L&P is planning substantial community dialogue and outreach to various groups
(Natural Resource Advisory Board (NRAB), Air Quality Advisory Board (AQAB), Economic Advisory
Commission (EAC), Chamber’s Local Legislative Affairs Committee (LLAC), local CEO Round Table,
Fort Collins Sustainability Group (FCSG), and Northern Colorado Partners for Clean Energy (NCP4CE)).
Mr. Gertig said that members of staff will provide a 100RE update to the Energy Board (Board) on
September 13,2018 for recommendation to Council. Council will consider a resolution to adopt a 100RE
goal on October 2, 2018.
L&P is currently focusing on terminology in community dialogue, balancing authority, storage, mid-term
check-in, and Climate Action Plan (CAP) alignment. Mr. Gertig said he is very adamant about defining
the terminology to get on the same page when discussing 100RE. Mr. Gertig said that collaborative work
for education outreach regarding balancing authority and load control into the future is being done with
Plate River Power Authority (Platte River) and others. Storage topics continue to come up concerning
where L&P is at, where they are headed, and the timeline as it relates to photovoltaic (PV). As a part of
the executive lead team, Mr. Gertig said they meet regularly to discuss the metrics of CAP Alignment.
Mr. Gertig touched on the projects in L&P’s Master Planning for circuit and duct bank projects. Mr.
Gertig highlighted different projects (complete, in construction, new, revised, and future), including the
Water Treatment Facility (WTF) and infrastructure serving Hewlett Packard (HP) and Broadcom.
Moving on to Data Management, Mr. Gertig said that L&P had done a lot of work on asset management
analysis and risk assessment. L&P is currently working on Electric Meter Installed Plant Inspections
(ADMIRE DB), Electric Distribution Equipment (Switch Point Inspection DB), and Reliability Analysis
and Tracking (Outage Tracking DB). Mr. Gertig said that tracking is incorporated into daily workflow
and eventually all L&P staff will have mobile workforce development accessible in work trucks through
their laptops. This process will take a few years to complete. Asset management resources are developing
a targeted cable replacement strategy that maintains System Average Interruption Duration Index (SAIDI)
at the lowest cost. Switchpoint Inspections are on track. Switchpoint Inspection goals were for a four-year
cycle, starting in 2015 and expected completion of the first iteration in 2019. Mr. Gertig noted a major
cable replacement by Advanced Energy in which crews worked overnight to replace those switches.
Mr. Gertig said, to be a leader in the environmental realm it is important to lead with change. L&P is in
the process of fleet conversion with changes from diesel/gas trucks to compressed natural gas (CNG)
occurring when vehicles or equipment need to be replaced, integrating to battery operated trimmers and
chainsaws, researching electric mowers for the future, and replacing L&P pool vehicles to electric or
hybrid electric.
Mr. Gertig began speaking about System Control Operations (SCO), which he referred to as the nerve
center of all L&P operations. SCO handles outages (24/7) through a combination of Geographic
Information System (GIS) and radio systems to the crews. L&P departments are working together on
mapping through an Electric System Monitoring Program which gives real time data of outages.
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Mr. Gertig said he was pleased with the metrics of a recent customer service satisfaction survey, but there
are opportunities for improvements (OFI). Residential customers, small to medium businesses, and key
accounts are shown as highly satisfied with L&P, although, price satisfaction is at a lower percentage. Mr.
Gertig said the Time of Day (TOD) rate change is a concern for how future price satisfaction survey
results may vary. For Energy Projects the Utility has a 2018 savings goal of 17,000 megawatt hours
(MWh). There are 285 business projects in which customers have completed or are committed to a total
of 10,000 MWh. There is an HPE economizer-heat exchanger project with a savings of 2,300 MWh
annually. Colorado State University (CSU) and their affiliates have either completed or are committed to
1,000 MWh of savings.
Chairperson Michell asked how the Energy Projects were handled, and whether it is done through a rebate
with the customer paying most of it. Mr. Phelan answered that the projects his team handles typically
have a rebate component. Rebates are based on energy savings and programmatic rebates have caps
associated with them. Mr. Phelan said as an example although the HPE project received a substantial
rebate it ultimately was driven by an extraordinary cost savings because the rebate was capped.
Mr. Gertig then shared that a new system peak was reached (unofficially) on July 10, 2018 with hour
ending 18 of 316.6 MW, and he displayed a graph of the peak demand.
Board Member Karnamadakala wondered why customers were not satisfied with price and if anything
was being done to address the issue. Mr. Gertig said the price satisfaction results was an OFI to
understand the variables like changing seasons and customers’ needs. Mr. Phelan commented that L&P
consistently sees lower price satisfaction results because everyone wants cheaper prices regardless. Mr.
Karnamadakala said he understood and recalled from a previous Board meeting it was mentioned that the
price of living had increased, and the number of people that could afford a place to live in Fort Collins
had dropped by 40% (percentage not verified) in 2014-2015. Mr. Baumgarn said that he wonders what
the bill looks like in hard-copy form and the online form, because customers may not be aware of which
percentage of their bill is electric or water charges. Mr. Gertig reminded the Board all the information is
listed on the bill, and there are online tools such as Monitor My Use to figure out how the bill is split
amongst the different utilities.
Managing Renewables in Markets
Andy Butcher, Chief Operating Officer (Platte River Power Authority)
(attachments available upon request)
Andy Butcher said his presentation was a perspective of how renewables are currently managed in the
market. Mr. Butcher said there are bilateral markets and organized markets. A bilateral market is how
renewables are managed currently at Platte River. Organized markets are a future possibility for Platte
River, but also currently exist in other areas of United States. Mr. Butcher said it is important to figure
out the best way to manage renewables, “intermittent resources” as he refers to them, in these different
markets. With intermittent resources there is always a concern of too much or not enough (i.e. having an
extreme amount of wind during non-peak hours and having a reduced amount of wind during peak hours).
Solar also has issues (i.e. a cloud rolling over Rawhide Energy Station causing the production to drop
immediately.) When these resources are not available something has to be in place to meet the void.
Mr. Butcher used the analogy of selling a car to further explain bilateral and organized markets. In the
past when someone wanted to sell a car they would post a sign or put an advertisement in the newspaper,
and when contacted by a person of interest an agreement on price was made in the form of a handshake or
contract. This is how Platte River and other power companies do business today. If Platte River needs
electricity tomorrow or in the next hour, they make a bilateral agreement over the phone. Platte River
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commits themselves to what they may need within a two-hour advance window, but this can become
difficult to manage in a bilateral market. An organized market is similar to the website Autotrader where a
vehicle can be seen on a broader market, bids are accepted, and it is in an automated form. With
organized markets an independent operator takes in bids and offers and settles to make a transaction
occur. Organized markets transfer power instantaneously, so they do not require a two-hour advance. Mr.
Butcher said in the Western-Interconnect (The Rocky Mountains to California) there is one organized
market in California, but there are more organized markets in the eastern part of the U.S.
Mr. Michell asked what is done to make up for the lost MWs if a cloud passes over Rawhide, since Platte
River’s transactions are occurring one or two hours ahead of time. Mr. Butcher said Platte River contracts
with a broader entity called a balancing authority. The balancing authority provides the service of moving
generation within the hour to make up for MWs lost. Platte River tries to enter the hour balanced, but
what Platte River can do is adjust the output to make up for any imbalances. Buying and selling energy,
capacity, or a related product under a bilateral market provides price certainty through short and long-
term contracts and generation ownership, loads and resources are balanced, and units are dispatched by
owner/operator. In an organized market the same things are available in a more automated way in a
broader regional area. Transmission is central in the organized market design, one has load and the market
supplies it. Mr. Butcher said that generally in an organized market load and resources settle individually,
meaning he takes the balanced load and resources to the market to manage the difference (i.e.100 MW of
load and 50 MW of resources, means 50 more MW of resources is needed to service the load). A
Regional Transmission Organization (RTO) or an Independent System Operator (ISO) serves as the
centralized operator for committing generation and serving load on a least cost basis. Organized markets
are done in two phases. It sets a day ahead process where bids are submitted for day ahead loads for day
ahead generation, and the market makes a settlement. There are clearing prices to the cost of taking load
and prices set for generation pay. Once that market is done and the day starts a balancing market is
entered that manages the differences automatically.
Board member Baumgarn asked if Platte River is more of a seller or a buyer and what entities they are
selling and buying to. Mr. Butcher answered that buying/selling is done with other entities like Platte
River to serve the community. If Platte River needs something for the next hour they would try to fill that
void to meet the communities need. On the other hand, if Platte River has more generation than they need,
and the community is already cared for, Platte River would offer the excess to a counter party. Mr.
Butcher said that historically Platte River has been more of a seller than a buyer. Platte River on general
has about 1,000 MW of resources via Rawhide, hydro, wind, solar, and combustion added together. Platte
River is mostly a lone utility and has daily loads around 400-500, leaving a lot of options for sales. Mr.
Phelan commented that when Platte River first started the City’s loads were a lot lower, so overtime the
City has grown into the capacity.
Mr. Butcher said to manage intermittent generation, Platte River maintains a lot of backup reserves on the
system to meet changes. The problem when managing intermittent generation is that Platte River must
assure 90 minutes (or up to two hours) ahead to set the schedule. Platte River can manage their own
resources, but they generally work with their balancing authority, Public Service Company of Colorado
(PSCo). For every single MWh of wind capacity Platte River generates they pay $3.35 to PSCo to
provide service. Since solar is more predictable it is a little cheaper at $0.97 per MWh. Mr. Michell asked
if the extra money Platte River is paying to a balancing authority requires the balancing authority to also
have back up reserves. Mr. Butcher said yes, Xcel uses flex reserves with a very large fleet of gas
resources and coal that are online all the time. Mr. Michell asked if it is cheaper for Platte River to pay a
fee of $3.35 versus balancing themselves. Mr. Butcher answered that the gas turbines Platte River has run
about one percent to two percent of the time for peak days or for emergencies. To provide reserves like
Xcel, the units would have to run 24/7 for 365 days a year. Platte River’s units are designed for peaking
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not for constant running. Mr. Butcher said the cost would be too great and a lot more than $3.35 to act as
the balancing authority themselves. Mr. Butcher used the term interdependent juggler to describe a
balancing authority. A balancing authority juggles between load, generation, and reserves at any given
time to make sure Platte River has electricity.
As an example of balancing in a bilateral market, if there are 500 MW of anticipated load then Platte
River would make sure they have 500 MW of resources to cover that load (through Rawhide, Craig, wind,
solar, or hydro). If an extra 170 MW of renewables occurs than Platte River must make 170 MW of sales
to balance the load. Managing generation in load is done regionally. Platte River believed when they
eventually joined the Southwest Power Pool (SPP) market that the need for reserve charges would be
drastically reduced, at an estimated $2.5 million less by 2021 (organized versus bilateral). In an organized
market load is managed separately and the market is going to serve that load and figure out the most
efficient way to do so (no matter what the load is). Mr. Butcher said an organized market is easier, and
they want to push for one in the future.
Vice Chairperson Shores asked if there are a loss of assets when Platte Rivers resources are taken offline,
since their resources are more expensive than other providers. Mr. Butcher said historically that happens.
The Rawhide coal unit is one of the more efficient coal units in Colorado, but Craig Station is less
efficient. In a market scenario, Craig is in jeopardy of not being needed because the cost is too high. So,
the less efficient coal is displaced for more efficient coal. Ms. Shore also asked how much Platte River
trusts an organization like SPP. Mr. Butcher replied that he trusts SPP as far as one could. SPP is an
independent non-profit, and to Mr. Butcher that makes them trustworthy in some form. Mr. Butcher said
the same could be asked of Xcel or PSCo, as they are non-independent for-profit businesses. To maintain
trust in a market is to be able to be in one’s own operations and interpret signals given without force and
maintain flexibility to manage load properly.
Mr. Michell asked with the setback of the Mountain West Transmission Group, what sort of timeline is
set for it to come back. Mr. Butcher said hopefully not long, but that he knows for sure it will not be by
April of 2020. There are a lot of negotiations happening, so it is hard for Mr. Butcher to make an accurate
judgement. Mr. Butcher said in his opinion with the way renewables are entering the system it better be
ready by 2025.
Solar Business Model Review
John Phelan, Energy Services Manager
(attachments available upon request)
Mr. Phelan shared that the content of tonight’s presentation had a few updates since his presentation to
Council. The outcome of his presentation at the Council work session meeting was a redirection to the
Energy Board and Utility staff to think about how to move forward looking at local solar, what the goals
should be, and to think about policy and potential business models. The question proposed to Council was
if they support the idea of developing a Distributed Energy Resources Roadmap in conjunction with an
update to the Energy Policy.
Mr. Phelan said the good news is that the community is enthusiastically adopting solar. The average
growth rate over the last 10 years is 100% annually. Fort Collins is at ∼1,100 solar systems installed and
has crossed 11 MW of capacity. This is producing one percent of the community’s electricity. A
reasonable forecast of growth may look like 50 MW by 2030. Another good thing is it leverages a lot of
private capital between Utility rebates, at a nine to one ratio investment going to solar. Mr. Phelan then
showed a short video graph to give the Board an idea of the acceleration of solar adoption in the
community. Mr. Phelan said of the systems that are online, a quarter of them were installed in 2017. Mr.
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Phelan refreshed the Boards memory on the City’s renewable targets (20% by 2020, two percent of that
from local solar by 2020). Benefits of local solar include demand side savings, customers’ expectations
are met (bar graph showing an excerpt from the 2017 Customer Satisfaction Survey, showing customers’
willingness to pay more for renewable energy), leverages investment, system benefits (especially when
paired with pending technologies and storage), and meeting climate and energy policy objectives. Mr.
Braslau asked if the people who install solar tend to use more energy or tend to be less efficient when
producing energy. Mr. Phelan answered the City tends to see people who are already efficient and want to
minimize their carbon footprint and environmental impacting install solar, but there are also very large
houses that use a lot of energy installing solar. Ms. Shores asked how the percentage of renewables is
calculated. Mr. Phelan said that the denominator is the total amount of electricity used by the community
and the numerator is the amount of electricity of that which comes from renewables (hydro not included).
A challenge of solar adoption is that over time it could create operational problems or voltage
disturbances. This is not the case currently in the Fort Collins’ community, but it is an issue in places like
Hawaii or California. Another challenge is creating a sustainable financial model. The financial and rate
tools being used now for full retail net metering, for example, were specifically designed to stimulate the
market in its early phases to help develop the demand for these services. L&P is approaching a point of
rethinking that, but it needs to be done in a way where it is not disrupting to the customers, the solar
industry, etc. Mr. Phelan said the idea of the grid as a community asset creates another challenge. For
solar to work, the grid is needed and how is that valued within L&P’s pricing and rate structures? Mr.
Phelan said we are well positioned to address these issues and maintain the momentum for additional
solar. Having an Advanced Metering Infrastructure (AMI) system in place provides an elegant metering
and pricing solution for net consumption and net export of solar. Mr. Phelan said he is excited that with
Time of Day (TOD) rates structures, L&P is establishing the principle and values for the consumption and
production of electricity during different seasons and different times of day.
Mr. Phelan shared some intentionally-simplified solar business models with the Board. The two models
of net metering and feed-in tariff metering are based on the location of solar, relative to the meter. With
the “behind the meter” system (aka net metering) the solar directly impacts the bill through reduced
consumption, the credit for that, as well as payments for the export of electricity. With “in front of the
meter” model (aka feed-in tariff or solar power purchase program (SP3)) the solar is metered separate
from the building consumption, so the electric bill does not change. They simply pay for the solar
production at an agreed upon rate. The Utility did a feed-in tariff procurement program in 2014 and 2015
and is currently going through one now (on commercial scale systems). Mr. Michell asked what the feed-
in tariff is and how the rate is determined. Mr. Phelan said in 2014 research was done on a model that
stimulated growth for solar work in Germany, Spain, and Asian countries. Essentially, from this research
the Utility set a price for the systems at a two-tier component for smaller systems (15-18 cents/ kilowatt
hour (KWh)). In the current round it was done in a bidding process, with prices lower than before (an
average of 12 cents/KWh).
Mr. Phelan said he wants to walk Council through an intentionally-simplified economics of a behind the
meter solar system to show both the customer and Utility perspective. For a typical non-solar customer
L&P buys energy for 6 cents/KWh from Platte River and sells it to the customer for 9 cents/KWh, leaving
a 3-cent/KWh value covering Utility operations, investments in the distribution system, and meter billing,
etc. For a typical solar customer L&P buys energy for 9 cents/KWh and sells it to the customer at 9
cents/KWh, leaving a net 3-cent/KWh loss for the Fort Collins distribution system. The 3-cent loss
multiplied by the amount of KWh generated by the local solar in Fort Collins’ behind the meter system
equals a $315,000 loss annually. This creates a $0.3 million deficit. As a fraction of the total revenue for
Fort Collins’ Utilities $0.3 million is a small number. Mr. Phelan said this is not currently breaking
anything operationally or breaking the bank.
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Mr. Phelan discussed the financial elements on solar and the levers involved in the finances. For behind
the meter residential elements are base cost, rebate, retail price, export price, avoided wholesale value.
Behind the meter commercial has essentially the same elements with an addition of demand rate
structures. In-front of the meter/SP3 includes the base cost, power purchase agreement (PPA) payment,
Platte River buy-sell agreement, value of solar it is credited at, and retail rates the energy is being sold to
customers at. In-front of the meter utility owned (not in place in Fort Collins) does not include a PPA
payment but does include a roof lease payment and operations and maintenance (O&M) costs. Mr. Phelan
presented a table of the different solar business models in relation to current average cost (per watt),
capital source (Private: Utility), lifetime utility cost, and tactics available to change. The takeaway of this
table was to show that an optimized mix of business models will be necessary to achieve goals and
customer expectations. Mr. Michell thought it would be helpful to include information of carbon costs, to
understand the full benefits of solar.
Mr. Phelan said a hypothetical path to two percent local renewable energy by 2020 would include solar
rebates with net metering creating 6 MW residential and 1-3 MW commercial, and SP3 1-3 MW over the
span of three years (2018,2019,2020). Mr. Michell asked if that was a reasonable estimate. Mr. Phelan
answered that it is the pace the Utility is going at. Mr. Phelan then showed values of solar based on
current rates, future TOD rates, avoided wholesale blended value, Platte River buy-sell memorandum of
understanding (MOU) value, ranging from 3.5 cents to 22.13 cents. Mr. Michell mentioned that there is
half a dozen solar plus storage and wondered if the Utility was planning on compensating solar plus
storage for net metering. Mr. Phelan answered yes. Mr. Phelan showed a graph of the cost curve of
residential solar and a graph of solar PV systems size distribution. Mr. Phelan reminded the Board that 3
KW has been the rebate amount for several years, but as the price is dropping people are putting in larger
systems.
Mr. Phelan shared a few examples of different ways other utilities manage distributed resources. Poudre
Valley Rural Electric Association (REA) sets a customer charge across their system. The City of
Longmont has a different fixed charge depending on if it is a solar versus non-solar customers, so solar
customers pay a higher fixed charge since they do not have as much use volumetrically. The City of
Loveland has, what utilities would call, a standby charge for solar systems based on the capacity on the
roof, a monthly fee for the number of KW they have. Xcel meters the solar independently from the house.
All these examples fall under net metering. Mr. Phelan said a question he asks himself is whether to set
up rate structures and pricing where solar customers are treated different than everyone else or to set up a
system where everyone is adjusted.
Mr. Baumgarn commented that he never gets the feeling that solar benefits the system from these
presentations, and instead it comes across as a risky deal. Mr. Baumgarn added that he would like to
believe that people present in the room believe the day should come where there is more solar, but after
most of the Board’s conversations he is left with the impression that people who have solar are taking
advantage of the system and are getting more than their fair share while also putting the system at risk.
Mr. Michell replied that unless there is storage, there is always a risk that solar may not be generated. Mr.
Michell said that was why he mentioned that there is no price on carbon. Mr. Michell said with the City
wanting to encourage carbon free production and having people put solar on their roof at their own
expense with a small rebate from the City, people are putting their money into solar which is good for the
community. Mr. Baumgarn replied that the City is not conveying that point properly. Mr. Karnamadakala
commented that he thinks the challenge within the City is that there is not much leverage individually to
do a cap-and-trade or carbon tax. Mr. Michell replied that just because the City cannot pass a carbon tax
does not mean the City cannot say there is an implied value of carbon dioxide (CO2) and that they are
willing to pay for it. Mr. Phelan shared that they City has been supportive of solar, connections,
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permitting processes, providing rebates, and full retail net metering. Mr. Phelan said the intent of this
presentation was to present to Council that this is a community value, it is a fundamental right for L&P’s
customers to generate their own electricity, and if L&P continues with the policies intentionally made to
stimulate that demand it will break down at some point. Mr. Phelan said that the Utility needs to figure
out what the predictable path is that will continue solar growth, and at the same time preserve the system.
Mr. Michell said a few things were obvious, one being that Fort Collins wants more solar because it does
not generate CO2 and it is good for environment, and secondly L&P must remain financially viable. Mr.
Michell said eventually the current solar model will fail to meet that test, and it must change at some
point. Mr. Phelan reminded the Board that none of this had to be addressed at the meeting, but that the
Board needs to make sure they’re communicating where they want to go and maintain community values.
Mr. Becker added that if the pricing is right it will drive the right investments. If the demand charges and
net metering charges are right, then eventually people will invest in batteries because it makes sense. Mr.
Michell said the City is giving people a good rebate currently to get the market started, but with the
market done and successful it is time to phase out the rebate. Mr. Michell added that he liked Mr.
Becker’s point; the solar rebate cannot just be phased out, something that drives behavior (like storage
investment) can be phased in. Mr. Becker reminded the Board that this was the same discussion point he
made at a past Board meeting; on a long-term scale if everyone is invested in storage then L&P will not
need a substation upgrade thus lowering the cost of running a Utility. Mr. Braslau added another aspect to
keep in mind is that currently to get a rebate the City does not require people to do an energy audit or
improve efficiency. Mr. Braslau feels in order to subsidize solar or batteries the City also needs to
encourage people to consume less, for there is a real cost as well as an opportunity cost associated with
greater consumption. Mr. Becker replied that he thinks there is an argument of, “don’t tell me what to
do,” that people can say. Mr. Michell pointed out Mr. Becker’s point earlier, instead of trying to force
efficiency requirements down peoples’ throat the focus should be on incentivizing them.
Mr. Michell asked what the next steps are. Mr. Phelan indicated to Council through this presentation a
Distributed Energy Resources Road Map pertaining to distributed solar and storage looking at everything
from electrification to mobile batteries and PVs. The Energy Policy is also getting updates and will be
presented to Council in 2020 with new policies, goals, and targets. CAP and Energy Policy are intended
to become a more integrated document, and Platte River is doing an Integrated Resources Plan (IRP)
update. Mr. Phelan said ideally, he would like recommendation on distributed energy from the Board and
staff for Council in advance of the updated Energy Policy.
Periodic Review Questionnaire
Chairperson Michell
(attachments available upon request)
Mr. Michell said he centered the Key Outcome Areas on the Periodic Review Questionnaire as Economic
Health, Environmental Health, Hight Performing Government, and Transportation. Mr. Michell said he
wants to look to areas of future improvement other than electric based areas. Mr. Michell feels as the
Energy Board the focus has been heavily electric and only 10% on other energy related subjects.
The Energy Board continues to seek an ordinance by City Council to expand the Energy Board’s duties
and functions to:
1. Engage in educational activities, in collaboration with City staff and external organizations, to
build broader community support for City policies concerning sustainable energy, energy
conservation, and climate change.
2. Collaborate with other regional similar boards and commissions regarding energy issues.
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The consensus among members is that too many items are scheduled per meeting, without adequate time
for discussion. Board Member Behm had written in his review that it is the responsibility of board
members and leaders to ask staff for a justification for each presentation topic (especially non-action
presentations). The Board can decide, based on staff’s answers, what presentations are important and
relevant to the Board. Mr. Baumgarn added that at times it seems presentations to the Board are merely a
check-off the list for staff, so that they can go before Council with proof of “public outreach.” Mr.
Karnamadakala brought up the fact that since he has been a board member, not a single work session has
been held. Work sessions may offer more time for discussion amongst the Board.
The consensus among board members is also that the size of the Board is not an issue. There were
several comments from board members suggesting a lack of diversity in background, gender and
economic status of the board. Mr. Michell said to be blunt, most of the board members are white, male,
middle class engineers. Ms. Shores suggested having some sort of diversity training for the Board. Mr.
Braslau said he would like to see more outreach to demographically different communities in Fort Collins
to discuss energy policy.
The majority of board members do not see any effective communication with Council. Mr. Michell
pointed out Mr. Behm’s comment on the review, “On the one hand, it seems our primary communications
with Council are through staff and meeting minutes. If I were a Council member, though, I can’t imagine
I’d have any time to read board and commission minutes along with all the other current information in
their meeting packets. It’s up to the Energy Board to send specific memos to Council on issues we
consider important. We do that occasionally, but maybe we rely too much on staff to deliver our
messages.”
The final comment on the review from Mr. Braslau called for an Energy Board budget and more decision-
making authority like other utility boards retain. The Board could dispose some of the budget towards
training members or participation in relevant regional conferences.
Board Member Reports
Ms. Shores shared that former board member, Margaret Moore, had sent information to the Board about a
panel discussion at the Broadband RMI Building on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 4:30 in the evening.
The Board would have free entrance if they were interested in attending.
Future Agenda Review
Mr. Phelan highlighted that Councilmember Ross Cunniff would be present at the next Board meeting in
August. Mr. Phelan also shared that the Board’s feedback will be critical regarding the Building Energy
Scoring presentation on the agenda for the August meeting to take to Council. Mr. Phelan added an
agenda item to consider, Bloomberg/On Bill Financing (OBF) 2.0 Update. The Board suggested moving
the 2019 Draft Work Plan to a work session versus having it during the regular August meeting.
Adjournment
The Energy Board meeting adjourned at 9:10p.m.
Approved by the Energy Board on August 9, 2018
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Board Secretary, Marisa Olivas Date
8/10/2018