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Ron Sladek, Chair
Doug Ernest, Vice Chair City Council Chambers
Meg Dunn City Hall West
Kristin Gensmer 300 Laporte Avenue
Per Hogestad Fort Collins, Colorado
Dave Lingle
Alexandra Wallace Cablecast on City Cable Channel 14
Belinda Zink on the Comcast cable system
Tom Leeson Karen McWilliams Maren Bzdek Gino Campana
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Regular Meeting
October 14, 2015
Minutes
• CALL TO ORDER
Chair Sladek called the meeting to order at 5:32 p.m.
• ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Dunn, Zink, Hogestad, Wallace, Gensmer, Lingle, Ernest, Sladek
ABSENT: None
STAFF: McWilliams, Bzdek, Dorn, Yatabe, Branson, Mapes, Schiager
• AGENDA REVIEW
Chair Sladek noted that Item #4, Discussion on Trolley Barn Uses, had been postponed until the next
meeting. Also, the Applicant for Item #6, Uncommon, had requested to be moved earlier in the
agenda, so with the Commission’s agreement, he moved it to follow Item #3.
• PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
None.
Landmark
Preservation
Commission
Approved by Commission at their November 18, 2015 meeting.
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• DISCUSSION AGENDA
1. CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 28, 2015 REGULAR
MEETING.
The purpose of this item is to approve the minutes from the September 28, 2015 regular meeting of the
Landmark Preservation Commission.
Mr. Ernest moved that the Landmark Preservation Commission approve the minutes for the
regular meeting of September 28, 2015. Mr. Hogestad seconded. Motion passed 8-0.
2. 903 STOVER STREET - CONCEPTUAL/FINAL DESIGN REVIEW
PROJECT DESCRIPTION: This is a request for a Conceptual/Final Design Review for the Charles A. Lory
House and Outbuildings at 903 Stover Street, Fort Collins, Colorado
APPLICANT: Kurt Reschenburg and Tia Molander, Property Owners
Staff Report
Ms. Dorn presented the staff report.
Applicant Presentation
Dick Anderson, the architect on the project, spoke to the Commission on behalf of the owners. He
stated that after consideration a number of variations on the design, they settled on one which
ensures the second floor addition will not be seen from Stover Street, while still accommodating the 8’
ceiling height. He said they are very sensitive to the streetscape. The original design has been
decreased by 30%, but still left very little yard space, so they would like to demolish the shed. Ms.
Molander and Mr. Reschenburg made themselves available for questions.
Public Input
None
Commission Questions and Discussion
A Member asked whether the 1938 frame shed that they want to demolish was found to be
contributing to the designation, and if so, would its removal require the owners to go through the
demo/alt process. Ms. Dorn said the two outbuildings, the shed and the garage, are cited in the
designation. Chair Sladek explained that the Commission would be making the determination about
the shed’s demolition, if they feel they have enough information to do so.
A Member mentioned that they don’t have a front elevation, but noted that the façade is very formal
and symmetrical, while the addition is not symmetrical. A concern was raised that the Commission’s
only way to verify that the addition is not going to be seen from the street is by the drawing provided.
Mr. Anderson explained his drawing of the sight line, and stated that from the streetscape it would not
be noticeable that the addition is not symmetrical. He also commented that the reason they had
moved the addition to the north was to preserve the trio of windows.
There was a suggestion that a shed dormer would be more appropriate. Mr. Anderson said they had
considered that, but having a flat 8’ roof worked better in terms of functionality. He said they could
probably entertain lowering the ceiling to 7’6” with a simple shed roof. Another Member agreed that a
shed roof would be a better fit.
Members expressed concern about not having photos and adequate documentation for the shed.
The Applicant provided additional pictures of the shed which were passed around to the Members
and entered into the record. Ms. Molander stated that the shed has settled and is unusable, and that
runoff from the alley runs into the shed. She said they have not explored fixing it, adding that it is
dilapidated, has broken windows, has no protection from the elements and would likely require a
complete rebuild.
A Member questioned the trapezoidal windows in the gable end, saying that they were not part of the
historic vocabulary.
A question was raised about whether the chimney was stovepipe or masonry, and whether it would
need to be moved. The Applicant said it was a masonry chimney, and that they would extend it with
a flue pipe to meet code, if needed.
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Chair Sladek referenced Section 14-48(b) of the municipal code concerning the report of
acceptability, specifically reading from items 1, 2 and 5. He additionally referenced the Secretary of
Interior Standards for Rehabilitation, Standard 9. Members discussed that neither the design of the
addition, nor the removal of the shed would meet those standards. The Commission requested front
and north elevations of the house, as well as more photos and documentation on the shed, since it is
a contributing part of a landmark. They indicated that without this information, they could not proceed
with a final review.
Ms. Molander interjected that the shed could stay, but the additional living space is the most
important. Mr. Reschenburg asserted that the addition would not be visible from Stover, but
acknowledged that it would be visible from other directions. The Applicants mentioned that they had
worked with City Staff and Architect Bud Frick, modifying the design many times, and thought that
they had met the requirements.
Commission Feedback
Members were in agreement that they were not ready for a final review, requesting that the Applicant
come back for another conceptual/final review. Members would like to see a new design with a shed
roof sloping down to the west, without the gable, and with the trapezoidal windows changed to
rectangular to be more in keeping with the original style. The Commission requested new drawings to
reflect the Commission’s feedback, additional details on the materials & dimensions, and more photos
and documentation on the shed and the garage.
[Timestamp: 6:15 p.m.]
3. 321 N. WHITCOMB STREET - CONCEPTUAL/FINAL DESIGN REVIEW
PROJECT DESCRIPTION: This is a request for a Conceptual/Final Design Review for the Garcia Property
at 321 North Whitcomb Street, Fort Collins, Colorado
APPLICANT: Kate A. Polk, Property Owner
Staff Report
Ms. Dorn presented the staff report.
Applicant Presentation
Kevin Murray, the contractor for the project, spoke on behalf of the Applicant and reviewed some of
the photos and drawings provided in the packet.
Public Input
None
Commission Questions and Discussion
A Member questioned why the addition was proposed with a gable roof instead of a hip roof, which
would be more in keeping with the Classic Cottage style of the home. The Applicant said it could be
dropped back from a gable to a hip.
Another Member asked what would differentiate the old from the new on the side of the house. The
Applicant explained that there is already an offset of a few feet there.
The Commission asked about the materials, and the Applicant explained that they would continue the
1x4” channel lap siding around the house.
Commission Feedback
The Commission would like to see the Applicant come back with a revised design showing a hip roof,
as well as more detail about the materials.
[Timestamp: 6:35 p.m.]
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4. DISCUSSION ON TROLLEY BARN USES
This item has been postponed until the October 26th meeting.
[NOTE: THE ORDER OF ITEMS 5 & 6 WAS SWITCHED]
6. UNCOMMON - 310 S. COLLEGE - REQUEST FOR RECOMMENDATION TO DECISION MAKER
PROJECT DESCRIPTION: This is a Final Review and request for recommendation to Decision Maker of a
proposed 6-story mixed use building at 310 South College Avenue. The project
is adjacent to several buildings that are designated on the National Register of
Historic Places and as Fort Collins Landmarks. This Project Development Plan
(PDP) is subject to review by the Planning and Zoning Board.
APPLICANT: Cathy Mathis, Birdsall Group
444 Mountain Avenue
Berthoud, CO 80513
Staff Report
Ms. McWilliams presented the staff report, which included a description of the project, an explanation
of how the adjacencies were defined, an overview of the relevant Land Use Code sections, and
Staff’s conclusions and recommendation.
Clark Mapes, City Planner, noted that the Commission had previously requested the staff analysis for
the Planning and Zoning Board (P&Z), so his preliminary staff report had also been included in the
packet.
Spencer Branson, Planning Technician, explained the technology used to create the model of the
downtown area and how it was used for the presentation. He then gave a presentation illustrating the
differences between the contextual images submitted by the Applicant and those generated by City
Staff using modeling techniques.
Applicant Presentation
Chair Sladek asked the Applicant to focus their comments on the changes to the project since the
September 28th work session.
Lucia Liley, the attorney representing the Applicant, provided some opening remarks. She described
the disagreement between the Applicant and City Staff over the interpretation and application of Land
Use Code (LUC) 3.4.7 subsections B and F. Subsection F contains specific criteria that must be
followed, as well as specific definitions of what historic structures must be considered, and these
were the standards with which the Applicant has endeavored to comply. Alternatively, Subsection B
includes a General Standard which she believes Staff has misapplied with regard to this project. Ms.
Liley argued that the more specific standard should be used, rather than the more subjective general
standard. She gave several examples of other developments in the area that had been approved,
asserting that the standards had not been applied consistently to those and the Applicant’s project.
Ms. Liley questioned the area of adjacency established by Staff, stating that no basis had been
provided for it. She went on to explain the Applicants had done their best to comply with the
feedback received from Staff and from the LPC, despite the lack of specifics provided. She read from
the City’s adopted Downtown Plan, pointing out how the proposed project supports its vision and
goals. She said that the Applicant had received nothing from staff to explain what the negative
impact of this project would be on adjacent historic properties, and asked that the Commission keep
all this in mind as the architect presents the designs.
Chris Johnson with CA Ventures, the project’s developer, continued the Applicant presentation. He
gave a brief overview of the company’s experience and history of working with landmarked properties
in other communities. He discussed how they approached the challenge to be compatible in this
transition area surrounded by varied building sizes and styles. He talked about the changes they’ve
made to the project based on Staff and stakeholder input. He read portions of the letters of support in
the packet from the owners of the Armstrong Hotel and the DDA. He also read a letter of support
from the leaders of the Mountain View Church which was not previously submitted.
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Eduardo Illanes from OZ Architecture presented the project plans and designs in detail. The
presentation included in the packet had been updated, and the revised presentation was entered into
the record. Throughout the presentation, Mr. Illanes drew the Commission’s attention to changes
made since the work session. He also pointed out areas where their proposed design is below the
allowable height limitations for Old Town and has exceeded the step-back requirements.
Mr. Illanes talked about creating what they call the “Paseo” for pedestrian connectivity, and how they
plan to incorporate benches, planters and possibly some public art. He also addressed the materials
to be used, as well as building signage.
[Timestamp: 7:35 p.m.]
Public Input
None
Commission Questions and Discussion
Chair Sladek asked that the Commission first address the project adjacencies.
A Member asked Staff to explain the rationale for defining the area of adjacency as a half block
around the block on which the property sits. Ms. McWilliams said that due to the mass, bulk, height
and visibility of the building, it would be very visible from a half block around. While there was no
requirement that the area be rectangular or square, they chose to define it that way for simplicity.
Answering a question from the Chair, Mr. Yatabe explained that the LPC is not bound by that
definition and has the ability to identify adjacencies as they see fit.
A Member read the list of eight historic properties within the half block radius identified on page 115
of the agenda packet. Another Member suggested adding the two-story apartment building across
the alley to the southeast, which dates back to the 1960’s and appears to be intact, citing that LUC
Section 3.4.7 mentions potentially eligible sites.
One Member recalled that at the work session, there seemed to be a consensus that the Armstrong
Hotel was the only property they felt was truly adjacent, or would be impacted by the project.
Members discussed whether the adjacencies should be extended to include other historic retail
buildings, such as those within the 200 block of College Avenue. It was noted that the buildings
immediately across Olive were not eligible.
The Commission also discussed whether the Applicant should be expected to make the new building
relate to surrounding residential properties in terms of architectural elements. A couple of Members
expressed particular concern with the lack of transition to a six-6 story building, particularly in light of
the considerable bulk in the back.
A Member suggested adding the Old Post Office and Wells Fargo to the list of adjacencies, given that
they are in the line of sight, and two other Members voiced support for those additions. One Member
inquired as to how others felt the properties other than the Armstrong Hotel would be impacted by this
project. No one offered any specific comments about that.
There was a brief discussion about what might be eligible on the 100-200 block of College Avenue,
for example the Aggie Theater or what used to be a car dealership at the corner of Olive and College.
Ms. McWilliams said she didn’t have that information immediately available, but that the buildings had
not been reviewed recently, and would need to be looked at again.
Chair Sladek conducted an informal poll among the Commission to determine whether there was
support to include the houses and church along Remington with the list of adjacencies, and the
majority agreed.
Commission Deliberation
Ms. Zink moved that the Landmark Preservation Commission determine that the list of
adjacencies for consideration as the context of the Uncommon PDP# 150013 be the following:
• The Armstrong Hotel, 259 South College Avenue
• Residences, or former residences, located at 220, 408, 412, 416, 418 and 420
Remington Street
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• The two-story apartment building at 317 Remington Street
• Mountain View Church at 328 Remington Street
• The Old Post Office at 201 South College Avenue
• The Wells Fargo Bank building at 401 South College Avenue
Ms. Dunn seconded. Motion passed 6-2, with Zink and Lingle dissenting.
Commission Questions and Discussion
In response to a Commission question about an image in the staff presentation, Mr. Illanes clarified
that there is no parking lot on the alley side of the building. He then asked the Commission how the
one- and two-story historic homes on Remington are to be addressed in terms of compatibility. Two
Members explained that the issue was not about the residential architecture, but rather how the
project relates to the homes on Remington in terms of mass and scale on its backside.
The Commission discussed that this is a transitional area, making it difficult to apply the adjacencies.
One Member questioned whether the Commission would ever be able to approve a 7- to 9-story
building, as allowed on this block [in reference to the “Safeway block”] by the Downtown Plan, if they
are defining adjacencies as anything within in the line of sight. Other Members said that with proper
articulation, set-backs and step-backs, it would be possible for a building of that height to be
compatible. Members discussed how the project could impact the adjacent properties, noting that it
impacts the setting, and therefore had the potential to impact eligibility at some point.
Commission Members said there were many elements of the design that are positive and are
compatible with the context, but most of the Members continued to be troubled by the sheer mass,
especially in the back of the building.
Mr. Ernest put forth a motion to disapprove, but withdrew the motion so that the Commission could
define the relevant findings of fact.
Members proposed various findings of fact. A Member commented that the materials used create
some congruency with the adjacent Armstrong Hotel, which is an element of the design that does
comply with 3.4.7. They discussed the wording of their findings, mostly regarding the scale and
massing, and leaning toward support for a recommendation to disapprove.
Mr. Ernest moved that the Landmark Preservation Commission recommend to the Planning
and Zoning Board disapproval of the Uncommon PDP #150013 finding that the proposed
building does not comply fully with Section 3.4.7(B) of the City of Fort Collins Land Use Code,
which states that “the development plan and building design shall protect and enhance the
historical and architectural value” of adjacent historic properties, and that “new structures
must be compatible with the historic character of any such historic property, whether on the
development site or adjacent thereto.” In particular, the following features do not protect the
adjacent properties’ historic value and are incompatible with the area’s historic character:
1. The project is not compatible in terms of its scale and massing in light of the general
standard in 3.4.7(B).
2. The project does not use traditional proportions and historic modules that are typical of
the adjacent historic properties.
3. The project does not use massing location and appropriate step-backs that would mitigate
the massing and scale of the adjacent historic properties.
Mr. Hogestad seconded.
Mr. Lingle said he was not going to support the motion because by finding that the project is not
compatible, the Commission would be saying it’s harming the adjacent historic properties, but he
hasn’t heard any evidence to show how or why. Chair Sladek said the back of the building is not
compatible along Remington, and that it impacts the setting and context of the historic buildings. Mr.
Ernest read the definition of “compatibility” from the Land Use Code, concluding that the project was
not in harmony with its adjacencies.
Motion passed 6-2 with Zink & Lingle dissenting.
[Timestamp: 9:22 p.m.]
5. DISCUSSION OF USES FOR THE CREAMERY BUTTERFLY BUILDING
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ITEM DESCRIPTION: The purpose of this item is to gather feedback from the landmark Preservation
Commission regarding proposed uses for the Trolley Barn on North Howes
Street, with consideration of how each use might affect both the building and
the site.
Staff Report
Ms. McWilliams presented a brief staff report.
Applicant Presentation
Brian Hergott from City of Fort Collins Operations Services gave the Applicant presentation.
Commission Questions and Discussion
Members inquired about the status of the building’s designation. Staff said that City Management
committed to designating the Butterfly Building, the Haston Oil property, and the former City Hall (now
Operations Services). The Commission had previously specified that it didn’t want to move forward
with designation until construction of its setting is finished.
In response to a Commission question, Mr. Hergott said the site plan is the same one that the LPC
approved in February.
Members discussed the plan for reproducing the sign. Mr. Hergott said steel structure is completed,
but they are waiting for a tenant for the space before completing it. Staff confirmed that the Dairy
Gold name was not trademarked, and could be used for the sign. Members commented that lettering
of the sign could be flexible depending on the tenant and use.
The City will maintain ownership of the building, but may lease it to a private enterprise. When asked,
the Commission did not specify any restrictions on exterior modifications, but said they should be
minimal and would need to be approved by the LPC.
Some repairs have been made to the building, including removing lead paint and installing windows.
The building will have all utilities, and the interior will be subject to tenant finish. A Member asked
whether there was a possibility that the City would work with a tenant on the finish. Mr. Hergott said
they could discuss that. There was also a question raised about whether there were possible state
tax credits or DDA incentive programs that a tenant may be able to access, but that information was
not available.
Mr. Hergott asked whether someone from the Commission would want to participate in a Committee
to review proposals in December. Chair Sladek asked for the Commission to be notified about that
so they could get someone involved.
[Timestamp: 9:53 p.m.]
• OTHER BUSINESS
None
• ADJOURNMENT
Chair Sladek adjourned the meeting at 9:53 p.m.
Minutes respectfully submitted by Gretchen Schiager.