HomeMy WebLinkAboutLandmark Preservation Commission - Minutes - 06/11/2008LANDMARK PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Regular Meeting
June 11, 2008 Minutes
Council Liaison: David Roy (407-7393)
Staff Liaison: Joe Frank (221-6376)
Commission Chairperson: Earen Russell
SUMMARY OF MEETING: The Commission discussed the Commercial Landmark
Rehabilitation Loan Program and reviewed three applications for funding. City Planner
Clark Mapes presented the Downtown Wayfinding Plan Concepts. The Commission
recommended to Council the Landmark designation of 621 S. College, the Warren House.
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL: Commission called to order by Chairperson
Earen Russell with a quorum present at 5:30 p.m. at 281 N. College Ave., Fort Collins,
Colorado. Earen Russell, John Albright, Terence Hoaglund, Alan Ballou, Bud Frick, and Ian
Shuff were present. Karen McWilliams, Preservation Planner, and Timothy Wilder, Senior
Planner, represented City Staff.
GUESTS: Audrey Diggins, CSU Student; Austyn Mull, CSU Student; David Harrison,
Contractor for 619 S. College; Clark Mapes, City Planner, for the Downtown Wayfinding
Plan.
AGENDA REVIEW:
Landmark Designation of the Warren House, 621 South College, was added to the agenda.
STAFF REPORTS:
Ms. McWilliams discussed the Preservation Month proclamation, presented to Ms. Russell
by Mayor Hutchinson on June 2. Her acceptance comments were well received by the mayor
and other attendees. Ms. McWilliams also mentioned that the LPC’s Friends of Preservation
Award was presented to 3 recipients, and, additionally, the mayor recently recognized the
100th Anniversary of the City Water Works Building. The public stakeholders meeting on
the Mason Corridor MAX BRT project, which affects the Public Service Company Building,
will be held Wednesday. The Landmark Preservation Committee is a consulting party. Ms.
McWilliams stated that this is an important opportunity for the Landmark Preservation
Committee to provide input as a party of interest.
COMMISSION MEMBER’S REPORTS:
Chairperson Russell did not attend the DDA meeting last week, but does have the packet.
PUBLIC INPUT: Chairperson Russell asked if anyone present wished to discuss any item
not on the agenda. There were no items discussed.
COMMERCIAL LANDMARK REHABILITAION LOAN PROGRAM:
Mr. Wilder discussed the background of the commercial Landmark Rehabilitation Loan
Program. Last year, money was applied for and received from the State Historic Fund to
provide more funds for commercial projects in the Landmark Loan Program. There is
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$24,000 to be allocated amongst different projects. The availability of additional funds for
commercial projects was announced in January, and the program did receive applications for
both residential and commercial projects. However, the program had sufficient funds to
cover the requested amounts, so it was decided to reopen the commercial program for
additional applications. This was done via announcements to historic commercial property
owners, notices in the newspapers and City News, as well as an announcement on the City’s
website. Ms. McWilliams and Mr. Wilder met with six applicants, three of whom submitted
applications. Program regulations make sure that applicants meet state requirements and the
required design review sign-off. There is a different time frame for these projects. These
projects will have a completion date of Oct. 2009.
Mr. Wilder discussed the three applications. None of the applicants were able to attend
tonight’s meeting. Mr. Wilder presented staff’s recommendation. He mentioned that the
process would distribute funding to the best projects and elements for funding, because there
is no $5,000 limitation.
Montezuma-Fuller House:
The owners have begun painting the house, but realized that they must redo the wood shingle
roof on the main house and front porch. The flat roof portion over the porch also needs to be
replaced. Also, during a previous roofing job, nails went through the crown molding, so
those must be removed and the molding repaired. In addition, there is a need to paint the rear
of house including the trim, lattice, and other woods. Finally, the project requires a tuck
point of the interior of the rear wall and areas on the building’s exterior. The total cost of the
project is estimated to be $24,200. Mr. Wilder pointed out that the crown molding repairs
received a high bid of $8,000 so it may not be included in the funds; however, all elements of
work are eligible for funding.
146 N. College, Commercial Bank and Trust:
Mr. Wilder mentioned that this building received funding in 2006, but the work did not
proceed, and the application closed. The building has since sold, and the new owners are
applying for the same work previously funded, as well as additional work. The brick/stone
façade is in need of repair. It contains areas with graffiti, needs tuck-pointing work, and
requires damaged corners to be filled. The windows need restoration work including
repairing and repainting the wood. The stained glass above the windows needs to be reset.
All mortar joints must be repointed. The owner is asking for funds for the beams in the rear
deck, which need to be enhanced. This rear deck is not historic. Also, the sidewalk is
buckling; thus, foundation work may be involved. This may not qualify for the loan program
unless the sidewalk damage is due to foundation problems. Mr. Wilder mentioned that the
Commission will have to talk about the funding for the foundation. He also mentioned that
there is a question of whether or not to fund the back patio area. This depends on whether or
not it is part of the original facility. Additionally, the beams need to be replaced. Mr.
Wilder said that, potentially, all except beams could be eligible, but the loan program will
need to gather more info from the applicants to determine which elements are eligible. The
estimated cost of this project is $26,000.
College Plaza:
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Mr. Wilder commented on this building’s nice landscaping and the aerial on top of the house.
The work need would include installing screen doors. This is because it did initially have
screen doors based on hardware previously used for screens. There are three sets of screen
doors to be replaced. The rear door requires hardware installation where it is missing. The
front of the building requires stucco repair. Mr. Wilder maintains that the stucco is not in
bad shape, but it needs repair. The front entry way includes the resurfacing of the front door
and installation of the screen door. Mr. Harrison said that the practical use of screen door is
to keep insects out while allowing air movement. There are two sets of wrought iron railing
– one in front and one in the upper gallery—both need replaced. Some areas have rust so
they need refinished and repainted. One area is broken and needs re-welded, as mentioned
by Mr. Harrison. These railings are believed to be part of structure by Ms. McWilliams and
Mr. Wilder. Feature F requires that window panes be repainted and repaired. Feature G
requires work on the basement windows and concrete emplacements. There are three
windows where the cement needs repaired and the window panes need repaired. Feature H
requires replacing windows that may be lacking. Two to three can be replaced under
possible costs right now, but that leaves about eight windows that have been covered up at
one point in time. Mr. Wilder mentions that a match element is replacing the furnaces. He
recommends prioritizing the work elements out of the suggested elements. The estimated
cost of this project is $22,400
Recommendations:
Montezuma-Fuller House:
Mr. Wilder recommends that we fund all elements unless the molding is too expensive. The
loan program will allocate $10,000 to be matched with $14,220 for a total of $24,220.
Commercial Bank:
Mr. Wilder recommends that we fund A-D, and leave out rear patio beams and sidewalk
work due to unknowns. The loan program will give $8,000 to be matched by $8,000 for a
total of $16,000
College Plaza:
Mr. Wilder mentions that the windows are the highest priority, followed by back door
restoration, front stucco, entryway work, window panes and basement window encasements.
Additionally, the screens will probably be included since they were original. The program
will give $6,000, and be matched by $13,600 for a total of $19,600.
Mr. Wilder mentions that the program would apply additional conditions to funding.
621 S. College must sign its designation form to make sure it is designated.
Approval of the project is required by the State Historical Fund Staff.
Substantial completion of projects is additionally required. The target date is April 1, 2009.
This is due to the fact that if the program does not use the money, it will be lost. Therefore, it
must be used on a project at some point.
DISCUSSION:
Chairperson Russell asked for commission discussion/comments.
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Mr. Albright commented that he understands if fully. Mr. Shuff said that this outline is well
established. Mr. Albright moves that they follow the recommendations of staff on all three
projects. Mr. Ballou seconds this motion. Mr. Wilder comments that we should hear from Mr.
Harrison on priorities of repair on the College Plaza.
Mr. Harrison mentions that street presentation is important. There are many holes in the front.
Also, the front railing should be fixed where it is broken at the top and bottom, especially
because this could also be a safety issue. He mentioned that the owner wants the Plaza to
look its best. Repairing and restoring is important and this program helps to offset costs with
aid. He agrees that windows would be a great opening up of the building. He also
mentioned that we don’t know what’s behind the stucco, and there are things to discover.
Mr. Russell asks that if wrought-iron railing is not funded as proposed in the
recommendations if the owner of the Plaza would still go along with the restoration.
Mr. Harrison believes so.
Ms. McWilliams comments that windows being replaced are on the side and back.
Chairperson Russell also mentioned that the Plaza would have to decide which windows to
replace. Mr. Harrison agrees.
Chairperson Russell reminds the council that we have a motion on table.
She asks for all in favor to say “aye.” The group is unanimously in favor
Chairperson Russell says that the motion carries.
Downtown Wayfinding Plan Concepts – Clark Mapes:
Mr. Mapes discusses the subject of his presentation—a downtown way finding plan. He
mentions that the Downtown Business Association has been interested in this project which
will create a schematic design for a sign system. This does not have to be signage
necessarily, but is primarily about a sign system, Mr. Mapes comments. He also mentions
that a similar project was done in 1988 as shown in the packet. It lists messages for
regulatory, information, attractions, etc. and has a drawn map. Mr. Mapes comments that
holes, colors, and typography are used in creating signage. This was once implemented at
Oaken College with colors, and custom street signs. The idea sat after a pilot project and, in
2004, came up again for implementation.
Mr. Mapes is showing conceptual plan ideas, which he mentions are being seen for the first
time here. These conceptual plans were done by a consultant with graphic design and urban
landscape architecture experience. The signs show a theme of colors, poles, and electronic
information kiosks, which are generating a lot of discussion. He comments that the electronic
kiosks will give more detailed maps, but is not sure what age groups will use them.
An issue that Mr. Mapes mentions is with parking in terms of directional arrows, lots, and
identification. There is also an issue of clarity for pedestrian way finding, even for those who
have found a place to park. Mr. Mapes mentions that the parking symbol is based on
international symbol for P. However, people need to know what hours are free.
Mr. Mapes also presents ideas for Oak Street.
Transit stops have poles that allow for a medallion at the top for a mason’s symbol, river
district sign, civic area sign, or other text. He questions if the downtown is big enough to
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mark those. Mr. Mapes also mentions that temporary event signs would be included in the
signage system. There will also be Wi/Fi web info systems, which could help with walking
tours, or work as mentioned by Chairperson Russell.
Mr. Mapes mentions that Universe City Connections has a director. Way finding was one of
the things they needed to identify. This company wants to mix way finding with
interpretation, such as stories or broadcast information about tours.
Next discussed by Mr. Mapes is Materials of Parking signs. They are made of metal mesh
and have a 3D look. Mr. Hoaglund says that anything to make parking garages more
noticeable will be helpful. Mr. Mapes answers that they did a test drive with someone who
did not know the downtown area. He mentioned that Mulberry Road through him for a loop,
because the Historic area of Fort Collins is quite far down the road.
Mr. Mapes then discussed Destination/Directional Sign Concepts. He said that there would
be a limit of five horizontal signs on a larger sign for legibility and size. Details they are
working on include how to make arrows legible and readable on the signs.
Ms. McWilliams asks for an explanation of the screened image concept and color scheme
comparison shown on Mr. Mapes’ presentation board. Mr. Mapes says that the mesh panel
could be on back side. These would be images of what they think is historic.
Mr. Frick asks if this means that this occurs only if there is a directional image on one side.
Mr. Mapes replies that this is true. Mr. Mapes mentions that if there are arrows pointing to
street or sidewalk, that they will be on the street side.
Next Mr. Mapes discusses the Identification of Attractions:
The Alley Gateway project is shown, but they would like to enhance additional alleys as well.
Mr. Shuff says that the alley sign is big, and Mr. Mapes says that it is horsy.
Mr. Mapes also mentions that Tremble Court did have something like this historically.
Chairperson Russell said that it was in the original plan to put up alley sign, but it cost too
much and Ms. McWilliams said that it would cost too much if it needed to be done in areas
that may never have had historic signs. Also, she mentioned that we do not want people to
think that all these areas once had signs if they did not. She also commented that another
option was to use historic wall painted finger signs. Chairperson Russell said she will give
pictures to Mr. Mapes of these signs from the 1920s to 1930s. In addition, Mr. Frick
mentions that he likes the idea of capturing the beginning and end of an alley.
Mr. Mapes mentions that when parking in the Civic Center structure, it only tells you where
the opera galleria is, and so there is a problem if someone wants to find something else. He
comments that signs in the alley could point to attractions or what businesses can be accessed
in rear (possibly in a “you are here” map).
Mr. Hoaglund notices that there is no continuity in character among the signs. Chairperson
Russell worries that the trail access signs could be dated quickly. Mr. Hoaglund wonders if
river district signs have different character for some reason. He and Mr. Shuff also notice that
there is a blaring difference in way finding signs. Chairperson Russell is worried that the
historic area might become too heavily cluttered with signs, so she cautions the locations and
placements of signs, especially those with conflicting styles. Mr. Shuff says to strategically
place the signs in accordance with what Chairperson Russell said. Chairperson Russell asks
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about a potential location for art in public places. Mr. Mapes answers that the sign poles
would serve as way finding if the art had meaning. The National Association of
Interpretation looked at the art and sings. When the interpreters viewed the ideas, they asked
what it meant. Mr. Mapes told them that there is a transportation theme, but also marks civic
projects. He also points out that way finding signs must be able to communicate.
Concerning the River Trail sign Mr. Mapes mentioned we must be more careful about
bringing it into whole scheme. He also commented that like in 1988, oak with pink, no one
wants contemporary style. He stated that we want a more traditional look with a harmonious
feel rather than creating a new identity for the signs.
Some of the alternatives that Mr. Mapes mentioned are that you could use the standardized
brown, blue, and green signs. He wonders you can adapt those to be the most simple and
universal system. He also states that Pueblo uses traditional signs, especially in their
downtown projects.
Mr. Ballou asks about maps, and Mr. Mapes discusses the idea of districts; there are 8. He
stated that we may want to make medallions on top of signs different colors in order to
identify districts. He also commented that the obvious and worthwhile thing to do is to
identify the River District. Mr. Hoaglund notices that people don’t know difference between
Old Town and Downtown. He mentions that what is worth communicating will help. Mr.
Hoaglund says that Old Town, civic, and other districts can break up the Mason Corridor.
Chairperson Russell asks if that will go south. Mr. Frick comments that we should simplify
area and that people won’t care whether it’s Old Town or Downtown.
Mr. Mapes asks if the committee likes the bronze markers in the historic area. Mr. Shuff
comments that they don’t draw attention. Mr. Mapes responds that he can’t find where he is
on some maps because the triangle is not pointed in a logical direction. Ms. McWilliams
mentions that the commission might want to consider the opportunity to identify the historic
area and set it apart. Mr. Mapes questions if the bronze objects are just neat and wonders a
person who looks at them thinks. Chairperson Russell wonders about the districts on the map
and if these are roughly the boundaries on area. Mr. Mapes responds that there are currently
signs in place with CDOT and there are no boundaries to these. Mr. Hoaglund suggests a
billboard on I-25 to incorporate the ideas of signage into the billboard. Mr. Mapes says that
this is a definite idea as long as there is harmony with color. He also mentions that Vail has
neat European style signage which leads you into town. He says that it is a low key project.
Additionally he mentions that UCC wants to pull CSU and downtown together a little better.
Ms. McWilliams asks if there are any questions.
Mr. Ballou asks if the overhead street signs are a priority. Mr. Mapes says that they haven’t
talked about it, but the city is replacing all signs due to a new standard that they must meet.
Ms. McWilliams asks about the time frame of the project. Mr. Mapes answers that they are
working closely with DBA and have completed about 40% of the project. He also mentions
that the pace is going about right, and they the will probably be finished by September with
the plan. Then they will talk to DDA and downtown GDI about implementation. They are
being funded with leftover money from department used to hire consultants.
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Chairperson Russell asks if they posted the document on the on city’s website. Mr. Mapes
says that they need to post plans right now.
OTHER BUSINESS:
Landmark Designation of 621 College Ave.:
Staff is pleased to present for your consideration the Warren House, 621 South College
Avenue. The property has significance to Fort Collins under Landmark Preservation
Standards (2) and (3). The property is significant for its association with Nathan C. Warren,
an early Fort Collins businessman and president of the Moody-Warren Commercial
Company, which provided produce and agricultural supplies to the local and regional
markets. The property is also significant as a good example of the Italian Renaissance Style
of architecture that was popular in Colorado during the 1920s. Representative elements of
that style embodied by the Warren House include the low hipped roof, smooth stuccoed walls,
numerous arched entrance and windows, and wrought iron balconet and trim.
Ms. McWilliams says that this is a little unusual because we do not have a signed nomination
form because the owners are in China right now. The loan money says that the nomination
form needs to be signed and become official within a week. In the mean time, the property
owner asked to bring the project forward in order to expedite the process. Once signed, it will
go to City Council.
Staff recommends approving the request for Landmark Designation of the Warren Residence,
621 South College Avenue, under Standards (2) and (3) for its association with prominent
early businessman Nathan C. Warren, and for its good representation of the Italian
Renaissance architectural style in Fort Collins.
Mr. Frick questions why according to chamber of commerce brochure, it contains valuable
and compressive stock. He wonders what compressive stock is. Ms. McWilliams responds
that it may be a typo but that she thinks it is quoted correctly.
Chairperson Russell asks if there are commission comments. Mr. Ballou asks why the house
is refereed to as 621 S. College and then 619 S. College. Mr. McWilliams answers that 619 is
the mailing address and 621 is the physical address of the house.
Mr. Frick moves that we should approve this under the recommendations of the staff and that
this is contingent on the owners signing the form.
Chairperson Russell asks in the public has any input. She then asks for a second.
Mr. Albright seconds the motion.
Chairperson Russell says that the motion carries unanimously.
Meeting is adjourned at 6:46 PM. by Chairperson Russell.
Respectfully submitted by
Lisa Markle, Secretary