HomeMy WebLinkAboutTransportation Board - Minutes - 02/18/2009MEETING MINUTES
of the
TRANSPORTATION BOARD
February 18, 2009
6:00 p.m.
Traffic Operations
626 Linden Street
Fort Co1Gns, CO 80524
FOR REFERENCE:
Chair:
Gary Thomas
482-7125
Vice Chair:
Ed Robert
224-4864
Staff Liaison:
Mark Jackson
416-2029
Administrative Support:
Polly Bennett
224-6058
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT
Olga Duvall
Bill Jenkins
John Lund
Kip McCauley
Ed Robert
Garry Steen
Gary Thomas
Sid Simonson
Scott VanTatenhove
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Mark Jackson, Transportation Group Director, 416.2029
Polly Bennett, PDT Executive Administrative Assistant, 221.6601
ABSENT: OTHERS IN ATTENDANCE
Sara Frazier Councilmember/Board Liaison Wade Troxell
Shane Miller
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Thomas called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. with a quorum present.
2. AGENDA REVIEW
The Agenda was accepted without modification.
3. PUBLIC COMMENT
None.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES (January 2009)
Page 3 — Top of page, should read South of Harmony instead of North.
Page 6 — Jackson — Change "December" to summer (June/July).
Simonson moved to accept the minutes with the revisions. Steen seconded. Passed unanimously.
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5. COUNCIL LIAISON REPORT
Wade Troxell, Council Liaison
The Council Work Session was good. Last night's River -walk presentation showed good support for
transit. Stoner presented a scenario of tailgating at Riverwalk and taking the Harmony & Mason
Corridors to Hughes Stadium for CSU games.
6. ACTION ITEMS
a. Election of Officers — Jackson/Thomas
Robert: Nominated Gary Thomas to continue as Chair. Steen seconded. Simonson moved to close
nominations. Lund seconded. Vote was unanimous to retain Thomas as Chair.
Simonson: Nominated Ed Robert to continue as Vice Chair. Steen seconded. Simonson moved to
close nominations. Lund seconded. Vote was unanimous to retain Robert as Chair.
7. DISCUSSION ITEMS
a. Update — February 10 Council Work Session on Transportation - Jackson
Thomas: Our letter was taken under consideration by the Council. Received several
compliments on it.
Jackson: Transportation Revenue Stream was the focal point of the evening. If there is
not a dedicated Transportation Funding Source found soon, we will be facing a reduction
in services. They are beginning to see the magnitude of the problem, but don't grasp it
fully. Several Council Members focused on infusing more money into Neighborhood
Traffic Calming, not understanding that it wasn't funded through the last BFO process.
School Zone Safety was another important issue raised by Council Member Poppaw.
Thomas: North College came up several times.
Jackson: It is one of the capital projects we are beginning this year as part of the Building
on Basics package. Hopefully we can make improvements from Vine Drive north to
Willox Lane. The NFCBA is being aggressive in ensuring their wants and needs are
heard by the Mayor and City Manager. The project was never fully funded from the
onset.
Thomas: Safety and maintenance, projects were all big topics.
Robert: One Council Member pointed out that the overall revenue distribution process
should be examined.
Thomas: A quiet zone for trains was also raised as an issue to examine. Commerce City
has quiet zones.
Jackson: There is a huge difference between Commerce City and Fort Collins. We don't
have a lot of room to work in. The DDA is conducting the Quiet Zone Study.
Jackson: There are Federal requirements that enforce blowing their horns at a high
decibel level for a specific length of travel or are subject to heavy fines.
Jackson: I was impressed with their interest, although they don't fully grasp the gravity
of the situation.
Thomas: They identified a $12 million shortage on the maintenance side.
Jackson: We have another Work Session in July and will discuss various scenarios
outlining what we can do with $X dollars. We will also discuss capital project shortfalls,
growth in designated growth areas/adequate public facilities, updating the Capital
Improvements Project List as part of the Transportation Master Plan.
Robert: How do the Capital Projects get addressed in the BFO process?
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Jackson: They are called out specifically in offers.
Robert: If tax money is needed for Capital Projects, how do you get their attention?
Jackson: We are being transparent in demonstrating the severity of the problem. There
will be opportunities this year during the BFO process for the Transportation Board to
weigh in.
Lund: Why is the City not focusing on primary needs versus primary wants (i.e. Police,
Fire, and Transportation)? Budgeting for Outcomes doesn't seem to be working.
Troxell: The next step in BFO is to prioritize the programs against each other. We can
invite more input (Boards & Commissions, public) and look at them through those lenses.
Thomas: It seems to be a matter of how much money is allocated to each Result.
Jackson: With the reduction in Transportation revenues, there will be a much greater pull
on General Funds.
b. Update — Federal Stimulus Plan/Impact on Fort Collins — Jackson
Jackson spent time on the phone with CDOT to get perspective on what is included. It is
changing hourly. Allocations and numbers are changing. President Obama signed the Act
into law on Tuesday. $787 billion dollar act. $420 million slated for Colorado for road
improvements. $50 million is coming to Region 4 for roadway improvements. $6.5
million allocated to the NFRMPO. $3.6 - $3.75 million is coming to northern Colorado
for transit funding (Fort Collins/Loveland/Berthoud). 15% of the projects identified will
be funded. All funds are to be allocated/expended within the first 120 days so they aren't
given back and reallocated. The drive is to be ready for the second wave funding.
Contract ready/build ready/shovel ready — not defined yet. Fort Collins has a good shot at
receiving some funding for the Transit Maintenance Facility expansion, because it can be
phased. Replacement buses are high on the `B" list.
Troxell: Are there opportunities for other Federal funding?
Jackson: We are attempting to get the I-25/SH392 design work completed by summer, in
time for second wave funding. A third wave of funding, in the form of a $1.5 billion
special projects reserve fund for transportation & transit projects was just announced. No
state will receive over 20% of the overall pot of funding. Projects need to be between $20
million - $300 million dollars, be able to start in 365 days, and be completed in 3 years of
award. We stand a good shot at something there. Applications are due in 180 days. This
would take the pressure off of the Small Starts portion.
Lund: Why are we not looking at getting green dollar funds?
Troxell: It opens up looking at other funding pots.
Jackson: We do have that opportunity.
Thomas: When will we know what made the first cut?
Jackson: It could be announced by the end of the week.
Lund: Mason Corridor funding is slated for funding this year out of the Federal
recommended budget. Has that come through?
Jackson: It is part of the Administration's list of recommended projects.
Simonson: Are there any strange strings attached to the money?
Jackson: This is all about jobs creation, fiscal responsibility, transparency. I think we
have to be prepared to be daylighted to demonstrate that we meet those goals. The Mason
Corridor's ripple effect on employment over the next 20 years would fit. We will look at
the requirements if/when the money comes in.
Robert: Do the funds compete (i.e. if you receive Stimulus funds you can't receive the
other funds)?
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Jackson: The MPO is going to roll their projects into the 120-day goal. You now know
what I know. This is a one-shot deal. It doesn't solve systemic problems. The numbers
continue to change hourly. Our Legislative Liaison is keeping tabs on things as well.
There are other areas that are included in the Stimulus Package (energy, etc.). All I know
about is the Transportation aspect.
VanTatenhove: Will Transfort look at the Education part of the package to partner with
Poudre R-1 on their bus system to get money?
Jackson: They are looking at it.
McCauley: Will traffic be a nightmare in a year if we get funding and have lots of
intersections under construction?
Jackson: We are looking at different scenarios.
c. Traffic 101—Joe Olson, City Traffic Engineer
Olson: I will give you an overview on Traffic Operations and then we'll discuss signals.
We maintain all of the traffic signals and maintain the signs and street markings. We also
do "soft" things that revolve around safety; maintaining a traffic accident data base, work
with the Police Department on enforcement issues; work on bike and pedestrian accidents
to see what we can do to alleviate those types of accidents; work area traffic control — we
review and approve traffic control plans to ensure they are appropriate for the work being
done; school safety to evaluate the best ways to get kids to and from school safely.
Traffic signals are commonly viewed as a cure-all. They can reduce overall intersection
delay, and reduce the frequency of right-angle accidents. If placed poorly, they can
generate more stops, delays, increase fuel consumption and air pollution, they can
increase the likelihood of rear -end accidents, and an increase in left -turning accidents.
They are costly to install and maintain.
If criteria for a signal is met, the pros outweigh the cons.
We have 176 signalized intersections, including 46 on the State Highway System, 26
pedestrian signals, 11 pedestrian actuated flashing lights, 44 reduced speed limit school
zones with flashers. A normal distribution is 1 signal per 1000 population, so we should
have around 130.
Each signal represents an investment of $125,000 - $275,000.
The controllers are at each signalized intersection, not in the control center. They are
programmed, not adaptive. They communicate to the control center here to ensure
synchronization, timing, and real-time monitoring. We can change green time allocation
from the control center here. Most of our intersections are fun by fiber, although it didn't
make sense for outlying signals, so they are on radio frequency.
Signal Timing — "Why can't you just do it like they do it in Loveland?"
Basic Signal Parameters — Green allocation; yellow clearance (legal requirements); all
red clearance; pedestrian timing (legal requirements)
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Coordinated Timing Parameters — cycle length (120 seconds right now); time relationship
with other signals.
Signal phasing — whether or not to use left -turn arrows. Unwarranted arrows lead to
added delays, fuel consumed, air pollution, and accident potential.
Three types of signals: Fully actuated (17) minimize delay; semi -actuated (141, 24 ready
for conversion to fully actuated); fixed time (18).
Coordinated Operation — the goal is to minimize stops. It causes delays on side streets.
Quality of Progression — Dictated by traffic speed, spacing between intersections, and
cycle length.
Time of Day Plans — timing plans account for changing traffic patterns throughout the
day.
2009 Traffic Signal Timing Project — Goals: minimize stops along main arterials;
minimize fuel consumption and air pollution, minimize delays during lower volume
times. Harmony (east of College), Timberline and South Lemay this spring; Taft Hill,
East Mulberry, East Prospect, and North Lemay this summer; College, Shields,
Horsetooth, Drake, Elizabeth, Laurel, and West Mulberry this fall.
Special Signal Features — Emergency vehicle preemption; railroad preemption;
permanent traffic count stations (in -road sensors, virtual sensors using video cameras,
fcgov.com/fctrip)
Future plans: Conversion to fully actuated signals; enhancement to real-time monitoring
capabilities; real-time performance measures; traffic responsive control; advance
detection, unwarranted signal removal?
8. BOARD MEMBER REPORTS
Simonson: Nothing
McCauley: Nothing to report. I enjoyed the presentation. As a Board, we should keep in mind that
stoplights can work against item #1 in our mission statement.
VanTatenhove: Nothing
Lund: Nothing
Jenkins: Nothing
Steen: I sent each of you a PDF of an article called "Two Billion Cars." Right now, the estimate is
that we have one billion cars on the road. I went through the Climate Change presentation the other
day. It was interesting.
Robert: Nothing.
Duvall: I was pleased to hear that some of the Federal Stimulus money may come to Transfort,
because I've heard concerns about Transfort extending the route on Harmony Road for people to get
to employment at the Walmart. The main hold up is funding. The Mulberry route is also held up
because of funding.
Thomas: I sent you information on Go 21. Freight railroads are not fond of passenger rail. Anything
that improves freight rail improves overall rail movement.
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9. STAFF REPORTS — Mark Jackson
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March item — Budgeting for Outcomes. Make your voice heard for this next budget cycle. We are
faced with the possibility of having to cut routes due to the gravity of the rapidly decreasing
Transportation revenue situation.
If you enjoyed tonight's presentation and field trip, we'd like to hold a meeting at Streets to show you
the snow removal process. We can also plan a trip to the airport.
10. OTHER BUSINESS
None.
11. ADJOURN
The meeting adjourned at 8:13 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
pP"ttl
Polly BJAnett
Executive Administrative Assistant
Planning, Development & Transportation