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MINUTES
Regular Meeting
December 17, 2008
DATE: Wednesday, December 17, 2008
LOCATION: 215 N. Mason - Conference Room 1-A
TIME: 6:OOpm
For Reference: Alan Apt, NRAB Chair 221-9875
Ben Manvel, Council Liaison 217-1932
John Armstrong, Staff Liaison 416-2230
Board Members Present: Alan Apt, Glen Colton, Liz Pruessner, Ethan Billingsly, Heather
Manier, Clint Skutchan, Joe Piesman
Board Members Absent: Linda Knowlton, Phil Friedman
Staff Present: Natural Resources Department: Alexis Hmielak, John Armstrong
Call meeting to order - Alan Apt called the meeting to order at 6:05
Introduction of Guests - Eric Sutherland and Neil Kaufman
Agenda Review - none
Review and Approval of Minutes: November 19, 2008
Liz Pruessner moved and Clint Skutchan seconded a motion to approve the minutes of the Natural
Resources Advisory Board November 19, 2008, meeting as presented.
Motion passed unanimously
Annual Stormwater Permit update
As background, Environmental Regulatory Specialist, Susan Strong, stated Fort Collins'
Municipal storm sewer drains are not connected to our sanitary sewer drains and are, therefore,
untreated water. Under the Clean Water Act, the Water Quality Control Division requires Fort
Collins to have a state permit to prevent the discharge of pollutants from urban runoff through
storm drains. Because it is a best management practices permit, Stormwater has numerous
measurable requirements and items they must implement every year.
■ Susan explained it is an annual requirement that she go to various boards, including the
Natural Resources Board, to inform them of Stormwater's annual accomplishments towards
meeting their requirements and to go over changes they have for next year. Stormwater's
annual report is due in March and the stormwater management descriptions for 2009 need to
be rewritten and submitted to the state in June in order to get a new permit. If the NRAB has
any input or comments to this permit after her presentation, please contact her.
o Any changes to the permit require a permit modification process. Deletions are
usually for things that weren't very effective or weren't as active as they should be
for a permanent program. Susan pointed out that once you've committed to
something in the permit you can't eliminate it unless something equal is added.
Susan pointed out during the first permit, her group surveyed hundreds of
outfalls and did not find any illicit discharges. This was a very expensive
program and, as a result, they are proposing to the state that they terminate it.
Instead, they will educate and rely on staff to recognize illicit discharges, have
a spill decision tree for response or call Poudre Fire Authority.
• In answer to a question from Joe Piesman, Susan. stated there was an
EPA Brownfield coal tar plume and landfill superfund redevelopment
site behind the Northside Aztlan Center building, but it was not
identified through this program.
• Susan also answered a question from Liz that appropriate City-wide
staff have been educated to identify illicit discharges. In 2009, they
plan to do tabletop exercises with decision trees and run scenarios to
give staff more experience on what to do.
Construction Site Runoff Control program — (no measurable goals)
• Consists of having an ordinance in place to prevent pollutants from coming
off construction sites and provisions in place to have proper water detention to
capture water runoff. Any time construction is over one acre, it needs a
Stormwater plan.
• Susan made some wording changes to this section, added some codes for
2009, made changes to the inspection schedule to enable more comprehensive
inspections and worked with legal staff to make an escalated enforcement plan
with erosion control escrow paid up front.
• Because of the poor economy, some developers are backing out of projects
and not cleaning up their messes. Susan stated, in that case, the City needs to
clean up the construction site.
o Post -Construction Stormwater Management
• Program to insure the long term and maintenance of water quality ponds for
flood protection and water quality.
• This requires the City to develop a program of educating Home Owner
Associations (HOAs) how to maintain their stormwater features created by the
contractors.
Susan's group has been working with legal staff to go through all the
municipal codes related to this stormwater permit to be sure they have what
they need to carry out the program.
• Susan explained that City Council has been looking at all the
Stormwater programs. They are working with CSU to review them
and are considering:
o More low impact development best management practices.
o Demonstration projects such as porous pavers, green roofs with
rain guards to remove pollutants
o Pollution Prevention/Good Housekeeping for Municipal Operations
• Includes general training and hazardous waste and waste management.
• Susan stated she wrote a Pollution Prevention Plan because the City is
required to teach citizens and businesses to not pollute.
• Susan said the state now wants a list of municipal standards operating
procedures and it is her goal to create this in 2009.
Questions:
• In answer to a question by Heather Manier, Susan stated that Fort Collins has a standard
permit. In 1999, when stormwater regulations were promulgated, Phase I cities were those
with populations over 100,000 and Phase 11 cities were under 100,000. At that time Fort
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o This bill only applies to Colorado municipalities with more than 5000 customers and
sets net metering capacity minimum thresholds at 10 kW for residential and 25 kW
for commercial and industrial customers.
o It requires the municipalities to post and adopt small generator interconnection
standards that must be functionally similar to those adopted by the PUC. The
legislative intent was to create a consistent net metering environment statewide.
• Net metering is only required for eligible energy resources such as solar wind, hydro and
geothermal. It doesn't specifically define combined $eat and power.
• The net metering law only applies to "customer -generators" and doesn't open the door to
third party generators.
• Compensation for the netted customer generation offsets the customer's consumption and
payment is effectively at the municipality's retail rate.
• The major benefit of net metering is that it offsets the usage at the retail rate. If generation
exceeds customer's consumption, "excess generation" is carried forward through the
calendar year, zeroing out in December.
o Steve stated the PUC has been approached to consider changing the calendar year
from March to March to avoid having 2 winter periods in the year to allow for a
better energy offset.
• In answer to a question from Alan Apt regarding anyone who far exceeds energy production
over consumption, Steve stated Utilities will be recommending to Council that they purchase
that excess energy at the retail rate.
o The Electric Board suggested adding a sunset or trigger in the code that allows them
to re-examine what effect customer energy generation is having on the operations of
our system,
• Steve presented charts and graphs showing energy plant generation and net energy usage
scenarios and compensation cash out amounts.
Discussion:
• In answer to a question by Clint Skutchan regarding carbon offsets, Steve stated they attach
"x" number of pounds of carbon to the mix of generating plants. In a solar energy production
scenario, they would not be producing carbon but are offsetting what's produced at a fossil
fuel plant. The calculation for the offset is currently 1.76 points per kWh, but could change
according the power generation mix.
• Steve pointed out Fort Collins Utility rates are low. $0.0122 cents/kWh is the offset
generation rate from PRPA for renewables going back into the system. The current
residential retail rate is $0.06498/kWh.
• Steve pointed out the questions they are carrying forward to Council after recommendations
from Electric Board are:
o Where should the net metering generation threshold be set? We're recommending
one megawatt (MW or 1,000 kW) which provides an incentive for larger customers to
install renewables and receive the retail rate back
o At what price should annual excess energy be purchased. We recommend the retail
rate.
Steve presented some additional models for small to large commercial customers from 50
kW to 750 kW and possible savings
o The rates for commercial customers are made from 3 components: an energy
component, facilities peak component and coincidence peak component.
o The models show potential customer savings and the impact on our payment in lieu of
taxes and the fee the utility collects in lieu of a franchise fee with the City that goes
into the general fund. By implementing this we have an impact on the general fund.
In answer to a question from Clint Skutchan who asked what would endanger a "monopoly"
status, Steve Catanach stated that, under the existing code, we have a large industrial
customer that one of our neighboring utilities could get to without crossing public right of
way. So, under our current code, that utility could negotiate a contract and take that large
customer away from us. Retail competition in the service area downgrades Moody's rating.
Next year PRPA will be pursuing $120 million in bonds to finance projects and upgrades.
For example, every 1% increase in interest rate adds $17 million over life of loan. This would
ultimately be paid by customers. It's important to consider that what we do impacts on
bonds.
Steve explained their presentation to Council will be what effect the code change will have
on different scenarios.
o No effect on off -grid customers
o No effect on customer generation for own use.
o No effect to customer generation for customer and tenant use not crossing the right of
way. However, the original customer can't mark up the cost and profit from his
tenant (master metering).
o No effect to customer generation for customer and tenant who is crossing the right of
way, but will require City Council approval and a franchise agreement and PUC
implications. Master metering requirements would apply as above.
o They do have concerns about third party retail sales.
■ PRPA's bond council stated they would they allow this to occur if it is tied to
the net metering legislation. There is no concern for customers under 1 OkW and
below. Above that, there will have to be a wholesale arrangement between that
third party, PRPA and City to allow PRPA to purchase energy from that
generator at wholesale level and then sell it back to the City.and that customer.
The agreement is that no additional cost will be tacked on.
Steve explained the Electric Board discussed the alterations to the code:
o They suggested removing the language in the code which states "the proposed code
provides for the recovery of all direct and indirect costs of the City and PRPA and such
additional amount as may be determined by the City."
o Should there be a requirement for insurance for the generators? There is no concern with
solar, but spinning generation could cause problems with the system.
o Who should be responsible for upgrades to our infrastructure? The Electric Board
recommended the customer should be responsible for the costs.
Questions
• Joe Piesman asked Steve to give an example of what a 5 kW, 7 kW and 1 MW facility would
look like. Steve responded that a 5 kW would be 2-4 panels and would service a residential
customer without air conditioning and would go up to 4 kW with air conditioning. 1 MW
would be 5 acres of solar array.
• In answer to a question from Eric Sutherland who asked if Fort Collins would own and
operate electric generation, Steve said in the current contract with PRPA, the City itself is not
allowed to own power generation. PRPA needs to be our sole provider in order to satisfy the
bond requirements.
o The Energy Supply Contract that goes to Council work session on February 3, 2008,
provides Fort Collins with the ability to develop 1 % or 3,000 kW for generation for
City facilities,
o Eric said he thought the most economically feasible way to build the pickle plant is to
have a 3`d party in a position to capitalize on tax credits and sell energy to Fort
Collins because most businesses don't have a contract with PRPA. He thought 3'a
Bicycle Advisory Committee & NRAB representation
The NRAB needs to select a member to participate in the Bicycle Advisory Committee. It is a
subcommittee of the Transportation Board and will convene in February, 2009. It is a monthly
commitment of approximately the same time as the NRAB.
Clint Skutchan volunteered to be the representative. Alan Apt suggested Clint would be the
NRAB liaison to the Bicycle Advisory Committee and would communicate board concerns and
represent his own views.
Joe Piesman moved and Liz Pruessner seconded a motion to appoint Clint Skutchan to be the
Natural Resources Advisory Board's representative to the Bicycle Advisory Committee.
Motion passed unanimously
New Business
Clint Skutchan reminded the board that he committed to not eat the food provided by the City at
NRAB meetings and wanted the money saved to go to the City's Christmas tree recycling
program. He asked John Armstrong to provide an accounting of this at the January, 2009,.
meeting.
Announcements
Alan Apt stated this Linda Knowlton was rotating off the board with this meeting. Since she
was not present at this meeting, Alan suggested he draft a resolution of appreciation for her
long service to the NRAB and send it to her.
Council Six Month Planning Calendar
John Armstrong mentioned the NRAB might be interested in the outcome of Council's work
session regarding trash districting. He will have staff present to the NRAB after the Council
work session to discuss the status of this item.
• Glen suggested the NRAB readdress how they do motions and send them to Council. He
would like to readdress the appropriateness of writing rationales of how they voted on
motions. Joe Piesman stated he has gotten mixed messages on this and suggested
recommendations sent to Council should be kept to one page.
Adjourn
Joe Piesman moved and Liz Pruessner seconded a motion to adjourn.
Alan Apt adjourned the meeting at 8:45 pm
Submitted by Alexis Hmielak
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Approved by the Board on 2008
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