HomeMy WebLinkAboutLandmark Preservation Commission - Minutes - 09/12/1995LANDMARK PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Regular Meeting
September 12, 1995
Council Liaison: Gina Janett
Staff Liaison: Joe Frank
SUMMARY OF MEETING: The Commission approved replacement transom
windows for 221-227 Jefferson Street (the Jefferson Block), the masonry cleaning
for 201 S. College (the Old Post Office) and a rear brick patio at 243 Jefferson.
The Commission reviewed the local landmark eligibility of 508 W. Olive. The
Commission approved door and porch skirt changes to a renovation at 518
Peterson which is a State Tax Credit proposal and is receiving a Landmark
Rehabilitation Grant. The Commission approved an awning recover at #23 Old
Town Square.
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL:
Commission Chairman Jennifer Carpenter called the meeting to order at 5:37 pm, 281
North College Avenue. Secretary Kristen Krueger led the roll. Commission members
Jennifer Carpenter, Per Hogestad, Jean Kullman, James Tanner, and Terance Hoaglund
were present. Ruth Weatherford and Bud Frick were absent. Joe Frank, Carol Tunner
and Karen McWilliams represented staff.
GUESTS: Mr. Jake Strouse, owner of 221-227 Jefferson; Mr. Dick Hill, architect for the
Old Post Office project; Mr. Jeff Bridges, a member of the Centennial Neighborhood
Association; Wally Walberg, owner of 243 Jefferson and Ms. Kathryn Malers, owner of 518
Peterson.
AGENDA REVIEW: No changes.
STAFF REPORT:
Ms. Tunner announced that a community reception for NEH scholars will be held
Thursday, September 28th in the Museum courtyard from 5:15 to 6:30. The objective of
the NEH scholars' visit is part of a grant the Fort Collins Museum received to establish
permanent exhibits in the museum dealing with the history of Fort Collins since World War
II. All LPC members are invited.
Ms. Tunner distributed information from the City Clerk's Office requesting a 1996 work plan
for the LPC and on amendments to the charter as proposed by a Charter Review
Committee. The LPC is invited to make suggestions for changes to the charter.
Ms. Tunner also distributed the annual Board and Commission manuals
Mr. Frank reported that the City Manager's recommended budget for 1996 includes
$80,000 for historic preservation. This is the amount that had been recommended by the
LPC; $40,000 will be used for survey and landmark designation of the East Side/West Side
Neighborhoods. The remaining money will be earmarked for continuation of the
Landmark Preservation Commission
Regular Meeting Minutes
September 12, 1995
Page 2
Rehabilitation Grant Program, Design Assistance Program, education and awareness
programs and additional survey, identification and prioritization of historic structures. The
LPC was encouraged to mobilize support to speak in favor of this recommended budget
at the budget hearing.
At the next work session, the LPC will be taking a visual preference survey which will take
about an hour.
Ms. McWilliams reported speaking to Stan Whitaker from G.T. Land and Eldon Ward from
CityScape. Both will attend the LPC meeting on September 26 to discuss their plans for
the Preston Farm. Ms. Carpenter mentioned that the Historic Fort Collins Development
Corporation Board will also be attending the meeting to hear the presentation.
COMMISSION MEMBERS' REPORTS: None.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
July 25th meeting, change on top of page 2: Mr. Frank (not Mr. Tanner) announced ribbon
cutting ceremony.
Page 5- The vote was not unanimous as recalled by Mr. Tanner.
Ms. Kullman made the motion to approve the July 25th meeting minutes as
corrected, Mr. Tanner seconded the motion. The vote was unanimous.
CURRENT DESIGN REVIEW:
221-227 JEFFERSON-TRANSOM WINDOWS REPLACEMENT
Plans for transom windows to be installed above new Anderson windows on the second
floor of 221-227 Jefferson were presented by the building owner, Mr. Jacob Strouse.
These seven transom windows are replacements for wood infill that was recently placed
above the new Anderson windows when they didn't properly fill the historic window frames.
Mr. Hogestad said that from just looking at the plans they appear to really be lacking some
dimensions and that the plans are only showing a general profile with no details. Mr.
Hogestad said that he could not tell from the drawing if the transom windows would match
the Anderson windows below. Mr. Strouse assured him that the transoms would match
exactly. Mr. Hogestad then asked how the sill of the transom would fit on the Anderson
window. Mr. Strouse referred to his plan which showed two alternatives. He explained
that he built the first sill with a 15 degree pitch to match the sill of the Anderson window;
Mr. Strouse said that it looked terrible and did not have the strength the window needed
so he abandoned the first alternate. He then built the second alternative which is identical
to the jamb and the head of the Anderson window. Mr. Strouse then presented a prototype
Landmark Preservation Commission
Regular Meeting Minutes
September 12, 1995
Page 3
of the transom. Ms. Carpenter asked what the variances would be on the transom. Using
the prototype, Mr. Strouse explained that the transom window replacement would have
variances less than 1/8", 3/16" at most. Mr. Strouse pointed out that the Anderson window
has a special groove for a screen; he did not put this groove on the transom because it
would weaken the wood frame and no screen would be installed on the transom. Mr.
Strouse explained that the sill of the transom essentially matched its jamb and head except
for a 5 degree bevel for drainage. The frame will be 1-7/8'; a reveal along the side of the
transom is similar to the Anderson window within 1/8".
Mr. Strouse then explained that the Anderson window has a brown plastic 1-1/8" seal for
its glazing. If the transom window is to match the Anderson window, a brown border will
need to be painted on the glass. Mr. Strouse explained that a moulding has been set at
the top of the transom. Ms. Carpenter asked if the face of the glazing on the transom is
in the same plane as the glazing of the Anderson window. Mr. Strouse said that the face
of the glazing and the face of the frame of the transom are identical to those of the
Anderson window.
Ms. Carpenter and Mr. Hogestad expressed concern in not having reliable dimensioned
drawings to document the existing conditions for comparison with the plans for the new
transoms. Mr. Hogestad asked Mr. Strouse to make a note on his plan to assure the LPC
that the transom would match the Anderson window. Ms. Carpenter also requested that
Mr. Strouse make a note that the planes of the glass and frame in the transom be flush
with those of the Anderson window. Mr. Hogestad asked Mr. Strouse to include that the
reveal match the Anderson reveal as close as possible. Ms. Tunner asked if the brown
painted strip around the transom will be hard to maintain. Mr. Strouse pointed out that
paint on glass is very long lasting.
Mr. Hogestad asked if the glass was tinted in the Anderson window. Mr. Strouse said that
it was not.
Mr. Hogestad moved that the application be accepted with notations that the profile
of frames exactly match the Anderson window, the plane of the glazing is aligned on
both the transom window and Anderson window, that the jambs (or rails) be aligned
as close as possible, and that a brown 1-1/8" strip be painted around the windows
to match the "stop" on the Anderson windows.
Mr. Strouse reiterated that the modifications to the style do not match the Anderson
window sill exactly. This statement was positively acknowledged by the LPC.
Mr. Hoaglund seconded the motion. The motion was passed unanimously.
Landmark Preservation Commission
Regular Meeting Minutes
September 12, 1995
Page 4
201 S. COLLEGE, OLD POST OFFICE - MASONRY CLEANING
Mr. Dick Hill, architect for the OneWest Art Center, had previously submitted a multi -part
application to the LPC for repairs and restoration of the Old Post Office (August 8, 1995.)
Now he was presenting a limestone cleaning proposal for the building. His specifications
call for compliance with the Secretary of Interior's Standards. Ms. Carpenter said that the
proposal was self-explanatory. Mr. Hill indicated that he understood that sandblasting was
not an acceptable procedure for cleaning masonry as stated by the Secretary's Standard
#7, and that there would be no sandblasting used on this project. He indicated that the
type of masonry cleaning that is specified for this project is Sure Klean Limestone
Prewash, a ProSoCo product, or its equivalent (as per the submitted product data sheet.)
He explained that it is a detergent type cleaning agent that will gently be applied with a
light spray from a pressure washer with a fan tip. The Sure Klean will be used to remove
the soil from the stone; it is specially formulated for brick granite, and limestone. The
prewash will be used on the most heavily soiled portions of the building. The whole
building will be washed with the limestone restorer or afterwash which will clean and
brighten up all of the limestone. No post wash is needed.
Mr. Hill said the granite base was covered with earth before 1975 and there is still a soil
line on the stone. He said that the base would all be cleaned with the Sure Klean
Restoration Cleaner. It is a heavier washing agent than the prewash and it will fortunately
be used below the limestone which it might damage. Mr. Hill noted that his specifications
provide for protection of vegetation at the base of the building and for cars parked near the
building during the cleaning process. Mr. Hill stated that the firm who applies the product
must have three years experience in this process and five jobs equivalency within those
three years.
The mortar that will be used to repair mortar joints will be a prepackaged colored mortar
specifically designed for restoration work. The holes that had been drilled for the post
office sign will be patched with this material. Mr. Hill stated that the color of the mortar will
have to be an exact match before he allows any patching to be done. He mentioned that
the large chip in the cornerstone will not be patched because it tells the story of how the
building was almost demolished.
Stripable masking will be used on the windows and specific weather conditions will be
required for building cleaning process.
Mr. Tanner moved approval of the cleaning process. Mr. Hogestad seconded the
motion which passed unanimously.
243 JEFFERSON, MARLEN'S TIRE - Rear Patio Addition
Ms. Tunner introduced Wally Walberg form Marlen's Tire. Ms. Tunner distributed pictures
Landmark Preservation Commission
Regular Meeting Minutes
September 12, 1995
Page 5
of the back of Mr. Walberg's building. She explained that Mr. Walberg is proposing to turn
the rear portion of the building into an apartment for himself and then build a brick patio
around the back of it that will be similar to the patio next door to the west.
Mr. Walberg said that he basically wants to put up a brick patio like the one next door to
his building using the same brick. Ms. Tunner mentioned that one difference will be that
Mr. Walberg's patio will have an arched door and gate going into it, as shown in the
submitted drawings.
Ms. Kullman moved to accept the application to build the brick patio. Mr. Hoagland
seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
508 W. OLIVE, PRE -CONCEPTUAL MEETING FOR POSSIBLE GRANT APPLICANT
Ms. McWilliams presented the LPC with photos and a survey of this property for evaluation
of eligibility for local landmark designation. She explained that the owners are interested
in local designation, and in applying for a rehabilitation grant and the State Tax Credit.
Ms. McWilliams explained that the house has not been altered very much. She said that
the front porch, which may appear boxed -in and not original in photos, appears to be
original when studied in the field. It has the original siding and window treatments just like
the rest of the house. It is possible that the porch was boxed -in not long after the house
was built. A muntin in the central window has been removed causing the window to not
appear as it originally did. The inappropriate shutters have been removed. The house
next door has the same floor plan but does not have an enclosed porch as this one does.
Ms. Carpenter mentioned that we must be careful not to water down the designation
process by designating buildings that are not individually eligible but would contribute
historically to a district, but she also felt that if the house was eligible it would be protected
which might be helpful in designating that neighborhood.
Mr. Tanner mentioned that this may be a way of protecting the neighborhoods because of
the unlikelihood of a district being formed. He said this may be the only alternative to
saving the neighborhoods because of the difficulty of districting.
Mr. Hogestad said that if it is eligible it will be eligible because of its architectural style.
Mr. Jeff Bridges mentioned that the owners bought the home with intentions of protecting
its historical integrity.
Mr. Tanner mentioned that something does not have to be exceptional to be made a
landmark, but that there must be a reference point to base the designation on. Ms.
Tunner read the definition of landmark from the Fort Collins Code.
Landmark Preservation Commission
Regular Meeting Minutes
September 12, 1995
Page 6
Ms. McWilliams proposed the possibility of various thematic designations based upon
architectural styles.
The house was built in 1927, and Mr. Bridges suggested finding the 1948 photo which
should be at the library.
Ms. McWilliams said the owner wishes to put gutters up to protect the foundation. The
owner had asked how to do this without covering the rafter tails which are an element of
the style of the house. Mr. Hogestad mentioned that you would not see the ends of the
rafter tails if gutters were applied, but that they are necessary. The LPC discussed the
application of different gutters and Mr. Hoaglund suggested perimeter drains as featured
on a This Old House episode.
Ms. McWilliams mentioned that the owner would also like to apply for the rehabilitation
grant monies to restore the garage as well.
518 PETERSON, B.F. AYERS HOUSE - CHANGES TO COMPREHENSIVE
REHABILITATION
Ms. Tunner explained that there were necessary changes that needed to be made to the
LPC approved rehab project at 518 Peterson, which is a Landmark Rehabilitation Grant
and State Tax Credit project. She referred to the letter submitted by Ms. Kate Malers. Ms.
Tunner said that the changes are self-explanatory and simple. She recommended their
approval by the LPC, but that they might give the applicant some direction on the porch
skirt.
Ms. Malers stated that the approved door is not in keeping with the style of the house, and
she has found a more suitable alternate. She showed drawings that she had done which
made it clear that the screen door and approved front door would not be compatible. Ms.
Malers proposed taller glass in the front door because it is what most foursquare houses
in town have and is more acceptable than the originally approved door.
Ms. Malers said that they had gotten into the project and discovered that the facia boards
on the porch were rotted and needed to be replaced while they were accessible. She
explained that she needs to use the grant money for the facia now and work on the
proposed and approved picture window at a later time. They have not made a decision
on attic ventilation at this time.
Damaged siding has been replaced and the corner boards are being put back together.
The crown mouldings under the roof cornice do not match on all four sides of the house,
and that will need to be fixed so that all four sides are the same. The moulding under the
gutter may give the answer for choosing the correct crown moulding.
Landmark Preservation Commission
Regular Meeting Minutes
September 12, 1995
Page 7
Ms. Malers said they are having a problem with covering the concrete slab foundation of
the porch. Ms. Carpenter suggested plantings around the slab (possibly Honeysuckle).
She is proposing to do a painted porch skirt on the concrete. Mr. Tanner suggested that
painting might make it appear too busy and suggested just planting flowers around it. Mr.
Hogestad suggested painting one strip along the top of the concrete to give the
appearance of a board. Mr. Hoaglund agreed with plantings. Mr. Tanner suggested
keeping it simple.
Mr. Hoaglund made a motion to approve the project revisions. Mr. Hogestad
seconded the motion. Ms. Carpenter stated that she was concerned about painting
the porch skirt. The application passed with a unanimous vote.
#E-23. SUITE #153. COOPER AND COOPER FINE JEWELERS'- AWNING RECOVER
Ms. Tunner showed the LPC a sample of a burgundy fabric that would be installed at the
entrance to the Cooper and Cooper Fine Jewelers store. It is an existing awning frame
recover.
A motion was made by Mr. Tanner approve the proposal as submitted. Ms. Kullman
seconded the motion which was approved unanimously.
OTHER BUSINESS:
Ms. Carpenter said that she was asked to attend a meeting once a month for planning for
the new civic center. Ms. Carpenter cannot attend and asked for a volunteer. Mr.
Hoaglund said that he was already on the committee and would represent the LPC.
The meeting adjourned at 7:28 p.m.
Submitted by Kristen Krueger, Secretary.