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LANDMARK PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Regular Meeting
April 12, 2000
Council Liaison: Scott Mason (226 — 4824)
Staff Liaison: Joe Frank (221-6376)
Commission Chairperson: Per Hogestad (303-292-1875)
SUMMARY OF MEETING: The LPC approved the consent agenda, which
included the exterior rehabilitation of the Old Post Office, at 201 South College
Avenue, and the installation of a new fence and relocation of the Antoine Janis
Cabin at the Fort Collins Museum Courtyard Historic District. The Commission
reviewed and approved the fagade restoration of the Street Railway Car Barn.
The Commission approved rehabilitation work for Local Landmark
Rehabilitation Grant funds for 638 Whedbee and 202 Remington. The LPC
provided their comments under a complimentary conceptual review of the
proposed Carriage Apartments at 318 West Laurel. The Commission
conducted a preliminary discussion of a proposed addition to 423 Whedbee
Street. The Commission discussed recipients for the 1999 Outstanding
Historic Renovation and Friend of Preservation awards.
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL: Angela Milewski, Commission Co -Chairperson
called the meeting to order at 6:17 p.m., at 281 North College Avenue. Commission
members Bud Frick, Janet Ore, and Rande Pouppirt were present. Per Hogestad
arrived late. Angie Aguilera and Agnes Dix were absent. Joe Frank, Carol Tunner, and
Karen McWilliams represented staff.
GUESTS: Kristine Luna, observer as new secretary; Janie Wald, for the preliminary
discussion of the proposed addition to 423 Whedbee Street; Jill Stillwell, Director of the
Ft. Collins Museum; Dick Beardmore and Steve Seefeld, Facilities Project Manager, for
the Street Railway Car Barn at 330 North Howes Street; Dick Hill, AIA, for the Fort
Collins Museum of Contemporary Art; Steven Bauman and Sandi Bennett for 638
Whedbee; A. Fred Kerst, representing Remington Redstone Corporation, for 202
Remington; Chris Ray, owner, and Dana Lockwood, Architect, for 318 West Laurel;
Kevin Murray, Empire Carpentry, for 638 Whedbee and 202 Remington.
AGENDA REVIEW: Ms. Tunner provided a revised agenda. The changes included the
omission of the determination of eligibility of 1401 West Horsetooth and final review of
an addition at 1600 Sheely Drive. The preliminary discussion of a proposed addition to
423 Whedbee was added. Ms. Milewski asked if the Commission would like to put
some additional items on the consent agenda, because the meeting started late. The
installation of new fence and relocation of the Antoine Janis Cabin at the Fort Collins
Museum Historic District were moved to the consent agenda.
STAFF REPORTS: None.
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COMMISSION MEMBERS' REPORTS: None.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: The February 23, 2000 LPC meeting minutes were
accepted as submitted.
CONSENT AGENDA:
200 Mathews, Ft. Collins Museum Courtyard Historic District — Install New Fence
and Relocation of Antoine Janis Cabin, Final Review (Jill Stillwell, Director)
The approval of the installation of the new fence and relocation of the Antoine Janis
Cabin, at the Fort Collins Museum Courtyard Historic District, at 200 Mathews, was
added to the consent agenda because the project has been through conceptual review
already. Mr. Frank requested that the applicant give a short presentation that explained
the details of moving the historic structure.
Ms. Stillwell, Director of Ft. Collins Museum, after consultation with Richard Beardmore,
preservation engineer, explained that they would construct a treated wood foundation.
Originally the cabin had a dirt floor. The fireplace is non -original. They will number the
stones from the original foundation and store them. Rough sawn lumber will be used
on the structure. The cabin will be moved using a hydraulic lift. Next year they plan to
conduct an intensive study and then determine how and if the fireplace should be
rebuilt. The design of the fence was also discussed. The same red pillar sand stone as
the existing fence will be used. The Commission agreed that both items could be
placed on the consent agenda.
201 South College Avenue, Old Post Office — Approval of Conditions for Exterior
Rehabilitation (Dick Hill, AIA for the Fort Collins Museum of Contemporary Art)
Mr. Hill, Architect, made a short presentation. He explained that the metal siding would
be a parchment color. He provided samples of the siding and caulking to be used on
the north and east granite steps. He explained that the caulking must be poured, so
they were limited as to the color choice. They selected limestone Vulkem #45 Paraseal
by Tremco.
Mr. Frick moved to approve the projects for 201 South College and 200 Mathews.
Mr. Pouppirt seconded the motion, which passed unanimously. (4-0)
CURRENT DESIGN REVIEW:
Street Railway Car Barn, 330 North Howes Street — Facade Restoration for State
Ms. Tunner presented slides of the structure as Mr. Beardmore, preservation engineer,
explained the details of the work. He explained that the south addition to the building
was made of a hard -fired Trinidad brick with a hard mortar. The rest of the building is
made of a softer fired brick and they tested samples so that the mason could make a
match. They also preformed test patches for cleaning the brick. Ms. Tunner added that
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this project is reviewed for State Historical Funds. They discussed the restoration of the
building back to certain time periods that existed in photographs of the building in 1908,
1926, and the 1940s. The drawings that were presented were based on historic photo -
documentation. The photos showed 5 sets of paired doors, two of which were then
converted to a shop for the Streets Department. The proposed doors will be made of
wood in the same thickness of lumber as the original 1907 doors (an eight -quarter inch
stock). A steel stiffening system will be sandwiched between the wood. Mr. Seefeld,
Facilities Project Manager, discussed the idea of housing a transportation museum in
the building. If the original proportions of the doors are used then they could fit taller
vehicles, like fire engines in the building. They discussed the evolution of the building
over time including the original dimensions of the doors, the taller parapet, and the
modifications made to the bay doors over time. They proposed that the southern most
door have a transom swing in to gain more height for larger objects to get through.
Mr. Beardmore explained that the plans were discussed with James Stratis who
suggested that they not create a hybrid building. He explained that the parapet should
be rebuilt higher if they planned to build the 1907 doors. He liked the idea of rebuilding
the 1907 doors and using the structure as a transportation museum. Both Mr. Stratis
and City staff preferred to see the original taller parapet be rebuilt.
Per Hogestad arrived 6:55 p.m.
Mr. Hogestad asked for details of how the parapet would be rebuilt. Mr. Beardmore
explained that the flagpole would not go back up, because it is not shown in the historic
photos. They currently do not have the funds to rebuild the east side parapet at this
time or the roof monitor. They will pursue another grant application. The current sign
will also be stabilized.
Jill Stillwell, Museum Director, providing citizen input, stated that it would be important
to be able to bring larger vehicles into the building, and that it looks better as it originally
appeared in 1908 photos.
Ms. Ore moved to give final approval for the fagade restoration of the Street
Railway Car Barn and it be taken back to the 1908 west end fagade. Mr. Frick
seconded the motion, which passed unanimously. (5-0)
638 Whedbee St.. E. M. Dodd/Frank Ghent House — Rehabilitation Landmark
Mr. Bauman, owner, explained the damage that had occurred over the years. He
explained that they would clean the stucco, fill the cracks, and retexture the steps. A
cement stucco finish exists on the walls and clapboard siding on the house. Gutters
and downspouts are needed on the front fagade. A two by four spacer to attach the
gutter to will be installed at the rafter tails, and will not be visible. Mr. Bauman
explained that they have damage in the basement because of the drainage problem.
The north bathroom window in the shower is also rotting. The pipes and the exterior
siding need to be replaced. Mn Murray, of Empire Carpentry, explained that there has
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been a lot of moisture damage inside the wall and it will need to be repaired from the
outside. Ms. Ore asked if there was historic tile inside the bathroom. The bathroom
was remodeled in the 1960s or 1970s. Marvin self -storing wood storm windows will
replace existing aluminum storm windows. Mr. Murray provided a sample window and
explained that the LPC has approved this kind in the past. The LPC was concerned
with the proposed method of power washing. Mr. Murray recommended that they use
the siding removed from under the bathroom window as a test strip. Ms. Milewski was
concerned that the same strength that is used to remove paint would also do damage
to the wood and force water into the wood.
Mr. Beardmore provided public input and discussed the use of 1500 psi on grade wood
and the possible use of a vapor barrier inside the bathroom. He suggested a
breathable tyvek, which he has seen in trade magazines.
Ms. Ore added that she is not comfortable with power washing the house. Mr. Bauman
agreed to hand scrap the paint if necessary. He also asked about the use of a mild
acid and just a garden hose. Mr. Frick discussed covering the rafter tails with the
gutters. Ms. Ore explained that they need gutters and it would be reversible.
Mr. Pouppirt moved for final approval for the rehabilitation, using the Local
Landmark Rehabilitation Grant funds, of 638 Whedbee for siding, storm windows,
steps, gutters, downspouts, and the north bathroom window and the paint should
be scraped by hand. Ms. Ore seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.
(5-0)
Mr. Kerst represented the Remington Red Stone Corporation. Mr. Kevin Murray, of
Empire Carpentry, presented the details of the proposed work. He explained that the
gutters were in good shape, except at the seams. Apex gutters will solder the areas
that leak. Where the leaks have occurred, the soffit has been damaged. They will
recreate the molding where needed or repair areas with an epoxy cleaner that can
replace the lignin in the wood where possible. He described the original stone and
mortar design. It had been beaded with the pink mortar later, which created a tuck
point design. The mason believed that the pink bead was added on immediately to the
mortar or how would it stick? They plan to dye the mortar to match the original. The
mortar recipe was provided in the packet. They will make it stronger to keep it from
falling apart. Ms. Tunner explained that true tuck -pointing refers to two layers. Mr.
Murray added that the two side fagades not facing the street do not have tuck -pointing.
The mortar on those fagades will be re -pointed where necessary. Cement will replace
the limestone component of the mortar and will make it stronger.
There was no public input.
Mr. Hogestad moved to approve the application for 202 Remington as presented.
Mr. Frick seconded the motion, which passed unanimously. (5-0)
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Five Minute Break 7:45 p.m.
318 W. Laurel — Complimentary Review of Laurel Street Carriage Apartments
(Chris Ray)
Dana Lockwood, architect, provided copies of the plans. He said that he understood
the LPC's concerns regarding how the apartments would impact the adjacent historic
structures. The area of 5,000 ft2 is required to build the proposed buildings. The
applicant has submitted a request for a modification of Section 4.8 (D) (1) of the Land
Use Code for a reduction in the minimum site area requirement. The LPC's comments
and concerns will be incorporated into staff's comments to the Planning and Zoning
Board. The applicants tried to mimic the scale and character of the adjacent buildings.
They proposed a three -unit building, which creates a long building down the alley.
Parking will be located inside the building itself. They discussed the design of the
different fagade elevations. They tried to break up the east side fagade. The fagade
pictured on page A3.1 was mislabeled north elevation and should read south. Mr.
Lockwood discussed the treatment of the windows that are double hung. He tried to
pick up on the scale of the entryway and created a covered raised porch. He tried to
break up the east elevation as much as possible.
The Commission discussed the idea of a new building versus an addition to the
adjacent historic buildings. They agreed that the character of the new building would
definitely have an impact on the existing houses. Mr. Frick said that he liked the design
of the south elevation, but the east elevation is a little busy. Ms. Ore liked how the
fagade of the building is broken up. Ms. Tunner suggested that the latticework on the
building next door be repaired and possibly repeated on the new structure. The
Commission did not prefer the oval windows on the west elevation. Mr. Hogestad said
that the massing and proportions were good. The elements on the new structure, which
you would not find on historic structures, are good. He suggested that the windows on
the east elevation be ganged in threes and be made more vertical to create a better
visual flow and pattern. Ms. Milewski also suggested that they use a more narrow
dimension for the siding material.
There was no public input. Mr. Hogestad added that it would be a good addition to the
neighborhood and that parking under the structure was a good idea.
DISCUSSION ITEMS:
423 Whedbee Street, Losev/Walker House — Preliminary Conceptual Addition and
Enclosure of Existing Porch (Janie Wald)
Ms. Wald, prospective owner, asked for the Commission's opinion of changes they
would like to make to the house if they purchased it. The house is designated as a
Local Landmark. She explained that they would like to enclose the rear porch from the
inside. They would also like to add two bedrooms on the back of the house. The LPC
discussed different options, which included using the existing addition as a connector
piece to the two new bedrooms and the treatment of the existing hipped roof. Ms. Wald
added that they also would like to add onto the back of the existing garage, which is not
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a designated structure. Ms. Tunner suggested that the applicant use the Design
Assistance Program in planning the addition.
Ms. Tunner reviewed staff's recommendations for these awards. The Commission
discussed projects such as the porch restoration 226 Peterson, the E. Scheidt House,
the addition on St. Joseph's Church School, the designation of the Sheely Drive Local
Landmark District, and the fagade restoration of the Silver Grill. The Commission was
concerned with the natural wood ceiling and flooring and railing on the 226 Peterson
porch, which is not an historic treatment for a porch. The changes made to the Silver
Grill fagade, such as the removal of the 1960s window also was discussed. Mr.
Pouppirt asked if there are any houses on the list. The Commission discussed the work
done on Mr. Patton's house at 515 Remington and the Scrivner's Grocery sign in the
100 block of W. Mountain. The LPC decided not to award an OHRA and to give the
"Friend" award to: Silver Grill, Debra Aplin/Polly Puleston for work on designating the
Sheely Drive District, and St. Joe's Parish for the addition to the school.
OTHER BUSINESS: None.
The meeting adjourned 8:43 p.m.
Submitted by Nicole Kaplan, Secretary.