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FORT COLLINS GENERAL EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT COMMITTEE
OCTOBER 21, 1991 MEETING MINUTES
MEMBERS PRESENT: MEMBERS ABSENT:
Jerry Brown Mollie Mercer
Alan Krcmarik Angelina Powell
Dennis Sumner Sue Wilcox, Secretary
Visitors included Don Mazanec of William M. Mercer, Inc.; Mary Crumbaker-
Smith of Employee Development; and Bob Eichem, Treasury Administrator.
CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Dennis Sumner called the meeting to order at 2:05
p.m.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Angelina Powell moved and Mollie Mercer seconded the motion
to approve the minutes. The minutes were approved as distributed.
ITEMS OF NOTE: Angelina Powell had compiled information from the Actuarial
Valuation Report, the benefits survey, and the Kipplinger Newsletter related to
defined contributions, and she requested an opportunity to discuss this with the
Committee.
REVIEW OF DISCUSSION TOPICS: The agenda was reviewed and Angelina's topic was
added.
DISCUSSION TOPICS: Open Items
1. THIRD QUARTER INVESTMENT REPORT
MAIN POINTS: Treasury Administrator Bob Eichem presented the third quarter
investment report and noted the rate of return for the quarter was 10.03%.
This return is relatively high for current market conditions and was due
in part to liquidating certain investments during the quarter. Bob
explained he would like to encourage the use of mutual fund equity
investments for a portion of GER funds. He feels there may be advantages
to the fund. He asked for thirty minutes of the Committee's time at some
point in the future for this discussion.
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS: The Committee members praised Bob for the high rate
of return and indicated they would like to discuss equity investments
later this year or early next year.
NEXT STEPS: Mutual fund equity investments will be put on the "Items for
Future Discussion" list.
2. RESPONSE TO AUDIT COMMENT REGARDING FUNDING STATUS
MAIN POINTS: Don responded to the recommendation of Price Waterhouse, the
City's external auditor, that the City consider reducing the annual level
of contributions to the pension fund. The auditors based the
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recommendation on the 1990 normal costs of the plan and because the assets
of the plan exceed the Total Benefit Obligation (which is calculated
according to Governmental Accounting Standards Board [GASB] Rule #5).
Don first pointed out that the normal costs of the Plan had increased
since the 1990 Actuarial Report and that the normal costs were being
funded at an appropriate level. The increases in normal costs were due to
the update in the mortality tables and because members were added back
into the Plan.
In response to the calculation of a fund surplus, Don pointed out that
while GASB #5 is an appropriate way to look at current funding of the
Plan, it does not show the funding requirement for an ongoing plan where
annual contributions are determined as a level percentage of future
payroll. To illustrate this point, if fund assets of the GERP were equal
to the Total Pension Benefit Obligation calculated for accounting
purposes, the total City contribution requirement for 1991 would need to
increase from 3.6% to 5.8%, an increase of $418,000.
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS: No change is necessary in the City's retirement
contribution rate.
NEXT STEPS: Alan will respond to the auditor's comments and forward
responses to the Council. Next year, the auditors will review the
actuarial results and the GASB #5 calculation with the Actuary, prior to
issuance of the management letter. The results of these discussions will
also be shared with the GERC.
3. LUMP -SUM PAYMENTS
MAIN POINTS: Sue reported that 38 former City employees had received
checks for lump -sum payment of retirement benefits for a total of
$54,048.44. Eleven former employees have not replied to the first letter,
so second letters were sent on Friday, October 18th as a reminder. Sue
will send certified letters to any of the eleven she does not hear from,
stating that we will assume they do not wish to accept a lump -sum benefit.
One individual, Gail McGaha-Miller, is a former City employee eligible for
a lump -sum payment, but she is currently working under a contractual
arrangement with the City. Her absence from permanent City employment
will be five years on June 30, 1992, but she is hoping that she will be
offered a permanent position in the near future. If this occurs and if
City Council changes the amount of time allowed for a break -in-service to
five years before the June 30, 1992 date, she would like the option of
keeping her lump -sum benefit and service credits intact. With this in
mind, she would like to defer a decision on her lump -sum benefit until
after June 30, 1992.
Her alternative would be to take the lump -sum payment now and if both the
above conditions are met within the time constraints, she could pay back
the lump -sum amount to the GER Plan, plus the interest the money would
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have earned had it been in the GER fund during that time. It was noted
that IRS requirements would make this process complicated for Gail.
Angelina withdrew from discussion at this point because her own situation
involves a break in service and she could have a conflict of interest in
this discussion.
The members' concerns were: 1. were there others like Gail who are
partially vested with a break in service who would be affected by a
decision on this question and 2. if the Committee agreed to Gail's request
and if she was able to keep her present benefits and service credits,
would others make a similar request in the future?
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS: Alan moved and Jerry seconded a motion to approve
Gail McGaha-Miller's request to defer her decision until after June 30,
1992, pending a decision on approving a 5-year break - in-service and Ms.
McGaha-Miller's rehire as a permanent employee by June 30, 1992. The
motion was approved unanimously, with Angelina Powell abstaining.
NEXT STEPS: Sue will keep a tickler to follow up on this in June or July.
4. PROPOSED ADMINISTRATIVE AMENDMENTS TO THE PLAN
General Information
MAIN POINTS: Mary Crumbaker-Smith presented a memo dated 10/18/91
summarizing the proposed administrative amendments to the GER Plan. The
minutes below summarize the discussion on each of the seven amendments
under consideration.
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS: See below.
NEXT STEPS: Mary's memo will be revised and additional data gathered as
noted below.
Amendment 1. LONG-TERM DISABILITY VS WORKERS COMPENSATION QUESTIONS
MAIN POINTS: This amendment summary addresses the Workers Comp versus
Long-term Disability question. Section A defines various disability
categories and who or what agency determines the disability. Section B
addresses the related question of how service is credited for each
category of disability defined in Section A. Section C addresses
retirement dates for disabled workers.
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS: There was concern that the situations for members
"under the age of 65" referred to in Section B might need to be treated
separately.
NEXT STEPS: Don Mazanec will review this section with the company attorney
for an opinion. The rest of the changes were acceptable.
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Amendment 2. ADDITION OF EXISTING UNCLASSIFIED MEMBERS
MAIN POINTS: There was some concern about how this section might apply to
the 18 classified personnel who went from classified to unclassified
status when they were promoted.
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS: This needs further review.
NEXT STEPS: Don Mazanec and Mary Crumbaker-Smith will look at this section
as it relates to the paragraph on membership and the 18 people mentioned
above.
Amendment 3. EXTENDING PERIOD FOR RETURN TO EMPLOYMENT AND GERP
MAIN POINTS: This section was acceptable, but it was noted there were some
current City employees who may be affected by this change. There is no
automated way to identify which employees left and then returned to City
employment within a five-year period. This data will be needed to help
identify costs and impacts of this amendment.
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS: The wording was acceptable.
NEXT STEPS: Mary to revise effective date and include in the final package
of changes. Mollie will review Employee Development personnel records to
identify employees who would be affected by this amendment.
Amendment 4. DATE FOR MONTHLY BENEFIT PAYMENT
MAIN POINTS: This section brings the Plan into line with the current
practice of paying pension benefits at the end of the month.
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS: The last sentence will end with the word "paid" and
the rest of the sentence will be deleted.
NEXT STEPS: Mary will make the necessary change.
Amendment 5. REFERENCING SPOUSAL CONSENT REQUIREMENT
MAIN POINTS: This refers to a spouse being consulted on the benefit
payment option chosen when an individual retires.
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS: No change necessary.
NEXT STEPS: Mary to include in final draft.
Amendment 6. ADDITION OF ONE YEAR BETWEEN RETIREMENT AND PAYMENT OF LUMP -
SUM BENEFIT
MAIN POINTS: This section requires a one-year wait between termination
date and the date of paying a lump -sum payment to those whose regular
retirement benefit would be less than $100 per month. The rationale is
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that if the individual were to return to City employment, they would be
most likely to do so during that first year. By not issuing the check for
one year, it would not be necessary for the employee to pay back the
principal and interest, should the person return to City employment.
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS: The wording is accepted.
NEXT STEPS: Mary will include in final draft.
Amendment 7. ELIMINATION OF AUTHORITY TO ACCEPT QDROs
MAIN POINTS: QRDOs (Qualified Domestic Relations Orders) would no longer
be honored for payment for any amounts except child support. There is
some ambiguity in the State law about whether GERP is or is not prohibited
from complying with QRDOs which address marital property and financial
issues other than child support. The elimination of the Plan language
which authorizes compliance with QDROs would assure that GERP is in
compliance with current State law.
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS: This is accepted.
NEXT STEPS: Mary and Don will get further legal review of this amendment
to ensure it is properly stated.
5. PROPOSED ENHANCEMENTS TO THE PLAN
MAIN POINTS: Three enhancements to the GERP have been under consideration
by the GERC for some time.
1) Change to full vesting at five years. This change is relatively low
cost, less than one-half percent of payroll. It would bring the
City's plan closer to the standards that apply to private
employers.
2) Use of a three-year salary average to determine benefits. This
benefit is also more in line with the practice of private employers.
The cost for this change would be approximately one-half percent.
3) Implementation of a "Rule of 80" type plan. In this provision,
an employee's years of service are added to the employee's age.
When, given other criteria, this total equals some number ("80" is
simply a common practice), the employee is eligible for full
retirement. Contrasting this with the Fort Collins plan, a 25-year
employee at age 55 only gets a 50% benefit from the current Fort
Collins plan. The cost for this feature is approximately one and
one-half percent.
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS: These changes are all considered desirable, but
due to their costs, may not be feasible unless employees choose to fund
them.
NEXT STEPS: No closure was made on these enhancements. The Committee
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will discuss them further at our next meeting.
6. DEFINED BENEFITS VERSUS DEFINED CONTRIBUTION PLANS
MAIN POINTS: Angelina Powell presented the information in her handout
regarding the pros of the Defined Contribution (DC) system. Don Mazanec
pointed out that this system requires greater contributions, which can be
accomplished by shifting funds from other parts of the total compensation
package (such as ICMA) and by requiring employees to contribute 5-6% of
their income to pension benefits. (A total of 10-12% of income would be
required to make a DC system worthwhile for employees.)
Don said that the City of Aurora worked to educate the employees on the
pros and cons cf defined contribution plans before Aurora went to one.
One county merely surveyed its employees on which type of plan they would
want and the results were predictable based on employee demographics.
Younger workers earning less wanted every dollar as salary, while older
workers looking at retirement wanted a substantial retirement benefit.
Don also noted that it is difficult to make this type of change. Not only
do employees have different values that tend to split along demographic
lines, but also it is difficult to give employees enough information so
they can make informed decisions. Also, there are equity issues that make
it difficult to make this change based on a simple majority vote.
NOTE: Earlier in the meeting Bob Eichem offered to present information to
the GER Committee on investment issues related to conversion to a
defined contribution plan.
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS: To begin to evaluate this issue, information is
needed on how much the City currently contributes to ICMA in matching
funds compared with how much a defined contribution plan would require.
NEXT STEPS: Alan will get information on how much the City currently
spends to match ICMA contributions by employees. Other aspects of this
issue will be discussed at our next meeting.
ITEMS FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION
1. Pension Investment Seminar/Public Benefit Plans Workshop
Evaluation of competitiveness of the GER Plan, based on Total Comp
Study.
Defined contribution study. (Refer to 10/26/89 meeting minutes.)
Delayed until changes to the current plan have been studied and
resolved. (Refer to 1/25/90 minutes.)
Possible involvement of GER Plan in the 401(a) deferred compensation
plan.
5. Plan improvements to be considered. (Review in June. See October
29th letter from Don Mazanec for costs.)
6. Resolve retirement benefit questions related to employees injured
during employment with the City, i.e. Sehestedt and Hattan.
7. Discussion of mutual fund equity investments with Bob Eichem (Refer to
10-21-91 minutes.)
8. Meet with City Auditors in March or April for preliminary review of
their report. (Refer to 10/21/91 minutes.)
AGENDA & SCHEDULE FOR NEXT MEETING
It was suggested that a more regular schedule for meeting times would be useful
for the Committee members. A "normal" monthly meeting at 1:15 p.m. on the first
Thursday of the month was selected. Due to other conflicts the December meeting
will be 12/19/91 and January's will be 1/9/92.
The next meeting will be December 19, 1991 at 1:15 p.m. in the Finance Conference
Room. The agenda will include:
1. Update on lump -sum payments and letter.
2. Proposed administrative amendments to the Plan.
3. Proposed enhancements to the Plan.
4. Defined Contribution VS Defined Benefit.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 12:30 p.m.
MEETING SCHEDULE
THURSDAY DECEMBER 19, 1991 1:15 P.M. FINANCE CONFERENCE ROOM
THURSDAY
JANUARY
9, 1992
1:15
P.M.
FINANCE
CONFERENCE
ROOM
THURSDAY
FEBRUARY
6, 1992
1:15
P.M.
FINANCE
CONFERENCE
ROOM
THURSDAY
MARCH 5,
1992
1:15
P.M.
FINANCE
CONFERENCE
ROOM
THURSDAY
APRIL 2,
1992
1:15
P.M.
FINANCE
CONFERENCE
ROOM
THURSDAY
MAY 7, 1992
1:15
P.M.
FINANCE
CONFERENCE
ROOM
THURSDAY
JUNE 4,
1992
1:15
P.M.
FINANCE
CONFERENCE
ROOM
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