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FORT COLLINS GENERAL EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT COMMITTEE
DECEMBER 19, 1991 MEETING MINUTES
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Jerry Brown
Dennis Sumner
Alan Krcmarik
Mollie Mercer
Angelina Powell
(Member & Staff Support)
Sue Wilcox, (Staff support -secretary)
MEMBERS ABSENT:
None
COUNCIL LIAISON:
Loren Maxey
Visitors included Mary Crumbaker-Smith, Assistant City Attorney; and Don
Mazanec of William M. Mercer, Inc.
CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Dennis Sumner called the meeting to order at 1:15
p.m. on Thursday, December 19, 1991.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Angelina Powell moved that the wording of the second and
third paragraphs of Item 6 "Defined Benefits versus Defined Contribution Plans"
be changed to more accurately reflect the tone of the discussions. She would
delete the last sentence of paragraph #2 and all of paragraph #3. Her
replacement paragraphs would read as follows:
Don offered to provide information from governmental agencies
currently considering a change to a defined contribution plan ---
their process, their obstacles, their results. He warned that
employee education was primary. Employees need to understand the
differences between defined benefit and defined contribution and how
a change might individually impact them now and at retirement.
With voting for such a change in the City of Arvada falling pretty
much along demographic lines, Don cautioned the need for planning
(annuities?) for long-time, retirement age employees. Depending on
the demographics, they may be the minority.
She also included adding the following to the NEXT STEPS portion of Item 6:
Follow up with Don Mazanec on information available about other
agencies exploring the move to defined contribution plans.
Mollie Mercer seconded the motion and the minutes of October 21, 1991 were
approved as corrected.
ITEMS OF NOTE:
Dennis Sumner read a letter from Mayor Susan Kirkpatrick announcing that
the chairpersons of boards and commissions may address the Council at their
meetings, providing the staff liaison person transmits their request to speak in
the agenda process. He also announced that the annual boards and commissions
breakfast with Council members is on January 23rd at 7:30 a.m. Dennis plans to
attend as the GERC's representative.
• DISCUSSION TOPICS: Open Items
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• 1. LUMP SUM PAYMENTS UPDATE
MAIN POINTS: Sue reported that 48 lump -sum payments totaling
$64,835.99 had been made to vested former employees, but she was unable to
locate two people. Two others did not respond and it is assumed that they
will retain their small monthly payment upon reaching retirement age.
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS: None were required.
NEXT STEPS: Sue said that she and Mollie will work this year on contacting
other vested former City employees to verify or correct their current
addresses, so that they can be reached when they attain retirement age.
Don Mazanec suggested an effort be made at regular intervals to maintain
current addresses for vested employees.
2. REVIEW OF PROPOSED ADMINISTRATIVE AMENDMENTS:
General Information
MAIN POINTS: Mary Crumbaker-Smith reviewed the proposed GER Plan
amendments she has worked on since the last meeting.
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS: See below.
NEXT STEPS: Mary will revise the amendments as noted below and provide
drafts for Jaime Mares of Employee Development and Stewart Ellenberg of
• Risk Management.
Amendment 1. LONG-TERM DISABILITY VS WORKERS COMPENSATION QUESTIONS
MAIN POINTS: This defines temporary total disability and partial permanent
disability. How does the Plan handle service credit for these disability
types?
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS: More clarification is needed.
NEXT STEPS: Mary will move the definitions to various sections. In the
area of credited service, she will remove the "under age 65" on pages 2
and 3. Don will review Article 9, Section 1 on Severance benefits and
apply them to disability.
Amendment 2. CLARIFICATION OF MEMBERSHIP EXCEPTIONS
MAIN POINTS: Several years ago a number of employees were moved to
"unclassified" positions, but elected to remain in the GER Plan. That
group of employees needs to be considered in the language when amending
the Plan.
CONCLUSION/DECISIONS: They need to be referenced in the plan.
NEXT STEPS: Mary will draft wording to include the 18 (+ or -) employees
• who elected to remain in the GER Plan despite their move to "unclassified"
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• positions, but she will need a list of the individuals. Mary may move
this reference to another part of the plan.
Amendment 3 CHANGE IN BREAK IN SERVICE
MAIN POINTS: Angelina Powell withdrew from discussion at this point, as
her situation could reflect a conflict of interest. Mollie's research
revealed that there were 34 employees who had experienced a break in
service (left City employment and returned as an employee within 5 years).
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS: Before the Committee recommends whether service of
less than five years should be given service credit for a prior employment
term, they would like to know the financial impact.
NEXT STEPS: Mollie will complete her list and Don will calculate the
impact to the Plan if service credit is given to employees with breaks in
service of less than five years.
Amendment 4 PAYMENT DATE FOR MONTHLY BENEFIT
MAIN POINTS: No change from October 21, 1991 minutes.
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS•
NEXT STEPS:
• Amendment 5 SPOUSAL CONSENT REQUIREMENT
MAIN POINTS: No change from October 21, 1991 minutes.
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS:
NEXT STEPS:
Amendment 6 ONE-YEAR DELAY FOR LUMP -SUM PAYOFFS
MAIN POINTS: No change from October 21, 1991 minutes.
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS•
NEXT STEPS:
Amendment 7 ELIMINATE AUTHORITY TO ACCEPT QDRO
MAIN POINTS: No change from October 21, 1991 minutes.
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS•
NEXT STEPS:
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• Amendment 8 STATEMENT OF GOVERNMENT PLAN
MAIN POINTS: The Plan does not specify that it is a government plan. This
omission may create difficulties.
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS: The fact that this is a government plan needs to
be specifically stated.
NEXT STEPS: Mary will include this statement.
3. REVIEW OF PROPOSED ENHANCEMENT AMENDMENTS
MAIN POINTS: To amend the Plan to include 5-year vesting, use of three-
year salary averaging for benefits, and implementation of the "Rule of 80"
may be possible with employee contributions. Dennis proposed that we
include in the work plan for 1992 a program to educate employees about
retirement. Don has information and a slide presentation used for a
similar program in another City.
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS: The employees need to understand their pension
benefits and the members need to know what employees would like to see in
the way of changes or improvements.
NEXT STEPS: Employee education and soliciting employee feedback will be
included in the 1992 Work Plan.
• DISCUSSION TOPICS: New Items
1. 1992 WORK PLAN
MAIN POINTS: A number of items were discussed for inclusion in the 1992
Work Plan for the General Employees Retirement Committee.
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS: The following items were considered for inclusion
in the 1992 Work Plan:
1. Review Plan for compliance with new non-discrimination regulations of
the IRS (Mary).
2. Employee education (perhaps through an open house) about the GER Plan.
3. Communication with employees and feedback from them about the three
enhancements the Committee would like to implement and also Defined
Benefits VS Defined Contributions.
4. Locating vested former employees.
5. Increased awareness of GERC activities and GER Plan provisions via Fort
Notes and an insert about the Annual Report, Work Plan, etc. The GERC
minutes can be posted as departments request distribution copies.
NEXT STEPS: Put this on the agenda for January 9, 1992.
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• 2. CONTINUED PARTICIPATION AFTER END OF MEMBER'S TERM & EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS
MAIN POINTS: Angelina Powell's term as a member of the GERC will expire
in July, but she would like to work as a volunteer for 1992 Work Plan
items. There was also mention of making the position of Assistant City
Attorney who works with pensions an ex-officio position on the Committee.
Likewise, the Treasury Administrator is in charge of investing Retirement
Plan funds and could be considered an ex-officio member.
CONCLUSIONS/DECISIONS: These items should be discussed further.
NEXT STEPS: Add to the January 9th agenda.
ITEMS FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION
1. Pension Investment Seminar/Public Benefit Plans Workshop
2. Evaluation of competitiveness of GER Plan, based on Total Comp Study.
3. Defined contribution study. (Refer to 10/26/89 meeting minutes.)
Delayed until changes to the current plan have been studied and
resolved. (Refer to 1/25/90 minutes.)
4. Possible involvement of GER Plan in a 401 (a) deferred compensation
plan.
5. Plan improvements to be considered. (Review in June. See October
• 29th letter from Don Mazanec for costs.)
6. Resolve retirement benefit questions related to employees injured
during employment with the City, i.e. Sehestedt and Hattan.
7. Discussion of "equities" with Bob Eichem.
AGENDA & SCHEDULE FOR NEXT MEETING
The next meeting will be Thursday, January 9, 1992 in the Finance Conference
Room. The agenda will include:
I. Work Plan for 1992 & Annual Report for 1991
2. Communication with and from employees regarding the GER Plan
3. Greater breakdown of participation in 457 Plan (ICMA) - Alan
4. Employee education about the Deferred Comp and Deferred Benefit plans
and the three enhancements the GERC would like to implement.
5. Ex-officio members and former -member volunteers.
ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 3:20 p.m.
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Rocky Mountain News Sat., Dec. 14, 190
Proposed state cutback
in pension fund rankles
By John Sanko
Rocky Mountain News Capitol &&eau
State budget writers ran into a
storm of protest Friday when they
recommended Colorado dig out of
a fiscal crisis by cutting $65.9
million from next year's contribu-
tion to the state employee retire-
mentfund.
Despite assurances that the
18.4% cutback won't endanger
benefits for thousands of state,
school, municipal and court em-
ployees, representatives of the
workers pledged stiff opposition.
The total loss to the fund in the
1992-93 fiscal year would be near-
ly $86.2 million, including $5.2
million paid by municipalities into
the retirement fund and $53.7 mil-
lion by schools for the state's
teachers.
"I can say positively our people
are going to go crazy when they
hear about this," said Pete Peter-
son, executive director of the Col-
orado Association of Public Em-
ployees, or CAPE. "There will be
a fight, I promise. I guess the
retirement fund is looked upon by
the JBC (joint Budget Committee)
as a honey pot."
Don Schaefer, spokesman for
the Public Employees Retirement
Association, called it another slap
in the face of government work-
ers. PERA represents 166,000
working or retired government
employees.
"This takes the public employee
and says, 'No, you're not as good
as everybody ease, we're not going
to have a pension plan like every-
body else, we're going to make
sure there cannot be any more
improvements or changes in the
benefit structure," Schaefer said.
"I think what it says is, 'You're not
worth as much as a private em-
ployee.' "
The opposition came as no sur-
prise to members of the Joint Bud-
get Committee, which voted 5-1
Thursday to recommend the cut-
back to the full legislature when it
meets in 1992.
The committee earlier had vot-
ed to support Gov. Roy Romer's
suggested 1% cutback of the
state's share into the pension pro-
gram in the current fiscal year at a
savings of $5.5 million.
The proposal would cut the
state's rate payment to the retire-
ment fund in 1992-93 from
11.62% of salary to 9.48%.
Schools would drop from 12.2% to
8.85%, municipalities from 10% to
7.58% and the judicial branch from
15% to 11.65%.
"It won't hurt anybody," said
Sen. Mike Bird, R-Colorado
Springs, vice chairman of the bud-
get committee. It does mean they
won't get additional benefits they
might like to have, but the commit-
tee's feeling was we shouldn't be
giving benefits at a time when
we're cutting back programs and
laying off workers."
Some states have actually taken
money from their pension funds. .
"Basically, it puts the fund in a
status that most experts recom-
mend," said Sen. James Rizzuto,
D-Swink, who offered the motion.
"PERA is at a point now, especial-
ly in the schools, that is too conser-
vative. We need the money, and
this is a way to find it without
hurting anybody."
Rob Gray, director of govern-
mental relations for PERA, said
the proposal would drop the
state's contribution far below the
nationwide* average for private
employers. The average employer
contributes 11.85% of, salary for
Social Security and private pen-
sion plans. The average employer
contribution for the 25 largest
public pension funds in the country
is 15.73%.
"I think this is one of the wake-
up calls for state employees in
Colorado," said CAPE spokesman
Joe Evanoski. .