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Minutes of September 4, 1985 Meeting
The meeting was called to order at 5:33 p.m. in the CDBG Conference Room,
200 W. Mountain Avenue.
Commission members present included Dick Beardmore, Wayne Sundberg, Michael
Ehler, Carol Tunner and Sally Ketcham.
Staff members present included Sherry Albertson -Clark and Kayla Ballard.
Food Co-op - 250 East Mountain Avenue
Applicant - Larsen Associates
Request - approval of north facade renovation
Larry Trampe and John Renhowe, Larsen Associates, spoke regarding the 2
overhead doors on the north facade. The upper level of the Food Coop has
been cleaned and refurbished. To complete the facade would require the
removal of the existing service doors and the infill of the area between
the 2 vertical piers with the proposed design. The owner of Food Coop needs
a service entrance in the rear and would like additional light facilities
for future, more public, space. The proposal is for 6 foot wide, 7 foot
high door for delivery on the east side. The remainder of the infill would
be masonry base brick to match existing refurbishment.
Sherry asked if the brick on the infill would match the cleaned brick.
Mr. Renhowe replied that they would try to match the existing brick as
close as possible even though the existing brick has been weathered.
Dick stated the new storefront approved has new materials and the
Commission has tried to stay within the Historic Old Town Design Guidelines
and the Secretary of the Interior Standards. He added this leaves the
option of not recreating the old. He felt this is in between these two.
Carol asked if a storefront is planned for the future.
Mr. Trampe replied that they would try to tie the front together with the
surrounding stores as much as possible.
Dick stated that the storefront could be reproduced as it used to be or
design it in a contemporary version. The right side of the building has
been redone and is a piece of history but the guidelines say that it should
be done as original or as contemporary infill. He felt it should be as
restored originally. These guidelines are #18 - #22 in the Historic Old
Town Design Guidelines. He suggested a temporary storefront.
Carol acknowledged that the owners needs and compatibility are the
transoms, matching brick and kick plates but would be more viable to use the
guidelines and compromise with his needs.
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Michael stated that if the right hand portion, if historical, should retain
the same flavor of the remodeling. If not historical, there would be more
flexibility. Duplicating the original storefront is not going to maintain
the pattern of the Old Town area.
Wayne asked if there was any way to recess what is proposed.
Dick stated it should be made clear that it would be done in its historical
state or in contemporary.
Michael asked when the changes were made on the right side of the
storefront.
Wayne replied around the 1920's or 1930's.
Sherry stated that the Commission needed to come to terms with the issue of
historic reconstruction versus another design. If another design is
appropriate to be considered, then the specifics of that design need to be
dealt with such as recessed doorway, proportions of windows, etc. Two sets
of guidelines are being used - Historic Old Town Design Guidelines and
Secretary of the Interior Standards for Rehabilitation and Design
Guidelines. These work hand in hand with each other.
Wayne asked, if the building were brought back to its original state, would
this fit the needs of the present owners in terms of access.
Sherry stated this has to be taken into consideration - the needs of the
owners and the impact of the historic district as well as the future needs.
Wayne asked if the right hand window could be made more similar to the
original or solid pane with a clerestory.
Susan Greene, owner of Food Coop, stated a 6 foot wide door is needed due
to deliveries.
Michael stated the Historic Old Town Design Guidelines. He added the only
evidence of origin is the photograph submitted. He felt the only 2 options
are to go back to the original state or design it in total contemporary. He
felt there should be more flexibility than there is. The design does carry
through on some of the existing detail and the Miller Block style should
not be used just because of the east elevation and distance.
Wayne stated that guideline #2 says there is nothing in the original facade
that is appropriate but is not sure contemporary design would work.
Michael moved to approve the proposed design.
Wayne seconded.
Motion to approve did not carry on a vote of 2-3 (Dick, Carol and Sally
voted against the motion.)
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Sherry stated the Commission needed to concentrate on whether to retain
the historic design and if so, what the specifics would be.
Sally asked if there could be some adaptation.
Michael stated this should be designed as replication not contemporary. He
stated the upper level facade is near original state and the ground level
is not. He felt it does not make sense to have the upper level historic and
the ground level contemporary.
Dick stated he voted no because this could be used to get back to the form
and still have flexibility of current use and still match guidelines
regarding the recess entry.
Mr. Trampe stated that they ought to go with the current storefront and
accommodate double doors on the west side and flexibility for recessed
doors in the future.
Sally moved to deny the application.
Carol seconded.
Motion to deny passed 3-2 (Wayne and Michael voted against the motion).
A special meeting was set for September 11th at 5:30 p.m. for the
resubmittal of Food Coop.
At this time, Michael left the meeting due to another appointment.
O'Hair's - p7 Old Town Square
Applicant - O'Hair's, C/O Brian Oliver, Paxton Signs
Request - Approval of window and facade signage
Brian Oliver, Paxton Signs, gave a summary of the proposed signage. He is
proposing to repaint the existing sign gold and blue and attach it to the
side of the building. The logo will go on the window to the west of the
door. (No blue color chip was submitted)
Hermie Lapointe, Old Town Associates, stated the landscaping obscures the
windows and doors. Having gold in the window will be visible to the
pedestrian traffic and the wood sign placed on the side of the building
would be visible to pedestrian and auto traffic. The glass above the door
is obscured due to the height of the trees.
Wayne asked how the sign would be mounted on the wail.
Mr. Oliver replied it would be mounted with lead anchors.
Carol moved to approve the window signage and O'Hair's wall signage painted
blue and gold with the condition that a paint chip be submitted before a
sign permit is issued.
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Wayne seconded.
Motion to approve with the condition passed 4-0.
Karate West - 223 Jefferson Street
Applicant - Kim H. Yee, Karate West
Request - Approval of signage
Lou Ann Yee, applicant, gave a summary of the proposed signage. She stated
the existing sign over the existing recessed door would be replaced and
would be mounted flush with the pillars. The colors would be blue and red
to match the trim on the building.
Carol stated she would rather see a suspended sign, if possible, to allow
more light to enter the stairway inside.
Ms. Yee replied she did not know of any way it could be suspended. The sign
would be mounted to the brick. The previous sign was plywood but they have
since replaced it with a glass sign.
Wayne moved to approve the application contingent upon the submittal of a
color chip prior to sign permit issuance and that the sign is not anchored
into the stone.
Sally seconded.
Motion to approve with condition passed 4-0.
Linden Hotel - 201-217 Linden Street
Applicant - Bruce Downing, James Leach, Frank Day
Request - Conceptual approval of renovation of existing structure into a
42,000 square foot hotel/restaurant/retail uses
Dana Lockwood, Downing & Leach, and Dave Williams, project architect for
Linden Hotel project, gave a Conceptual Review summary of the proposed
project. Mr. Lockwood stated the building would be a 40 room hotel, a 3,000
sf restaurant and 8,900 sf of retail uses on the lobby level and the first
floor. The second floor would be hotel rooms. The third floor would have an
addition to meet requirements for the number of rooms. The facade would be
an enhancement of the original project. The renovation would comply with
the Secretary of the Interior Standards. The exterior would be preserved,
repaired or replaced as much as feasible. The third floor addition would be
held back in line of the sidewalk so the facade would maintain its
integrity and under the 40 foot height requirement. They then described the
blue lines and photos to the Commission. The stucco would be removed and
the brick painted red. Mr. Williams stated this would be presented in
several phases due to the size of the project. Phase One is the facade,
hotel lobby and hotel rooms on the second floor.
(Due to this application being a conceptual review item, a special meeting
was set for September 19th, at 5:30 p.m. in the CDBG Conference Room for
the Linden Hotel to present their final approval request.)
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Wayne moved to approve the conceptual review as presented.
Carol seconded.
Motion to approve carried 4-0.
The Commission then suggested the following guidelines for the Linden Hotel
project:
1. Remove the awning
2. Do exploratory work
3. Remove the neon signs
4. Do non -historic cosmetic application for exploratory purposes.
Avery House - 328 West Mountain Avenue
Applicant - Steve White for City of Fort Collins
Request - approval of carpentry, painting, downspouting, chimney and roof
work.
Dick excused himself from the discussion and voting due to a potential
conflict.
Steve White, City of Fort Collins Facilities Department, gave a summary of
the proposed application. He stated the gazebo would be replaced to its
originality, replace missing screens, paint the house in the same color as
is existing on the building, installing corrugated downspout on the east
side of the building, replace broken stones on the front walk and city
walks, and replace the top step.
Sally asked if a temporary railing could be placed in front of the
building.
Mr. White replied a temporary railing could be placed if necessary. He
added that the chimneys would be repointed, loose shingles would be
replaced that are visible to the public and the flat roof would be
completely replaced and removal of the metal stairway in the rear of the
building.
Sherry stated that the gazebo reconstruction and the stone walk pavers
would be deleted from the approval of the Commission.
Sally moved to approve the proposal as presented.
Carol seconded.
Motion to approve carried 3-0.
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Approval of Minutes of August 7, 1985 Meeting
Minutes were approved as presented.
Other Business
Sherry stated there would be a worksession on September 9th at 4:00 p.m.
with the city attorney, zoning administrator, and Councilmember Ohlson
regarding the tenants desires in Old Town and the Historic Old Town Design
Guidelines.
After brief discussion, the Commission postponed the meeting until October
due to only 3 out the 6 Commission members being able to attend the
September 9th meeting.
Sherry stated that September 18th is the Cultural Resources Board hearing in
City Council Chambers on the Old Post Office.
Sherry stated that Cultural Resources Board decided not to pursue
designation on the Old Fort site. Instead, they would like to approach Parks
and Recreation to consider renaming the park in recognition of the Fort Site.
Meeting adjourned at 8:35 p.m.