HomeMy WebLinkAboutLandmark Preservation Commission - Minutes - 03/11/1997LANDMARK PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Regular Meeting
March 11, 1997
Council Liaison: Gina Janett
Staff Liaison: Joe Frank
Commission Chairperson: Jennifer Carpenter
SUMMARY OF MEETING: The LPC reviewed the water stand pipe located at 330
N. Howes. The discussion of the existing building up -lights at 217 Linden Street
was tabled. The renovation of 319 East Plum, the Schalk -Stallings House, was
approved for Part II State Tax Credit. The LPC approved the existing over -door
awning on the near second floor of 223 Jefferson, contingent on the awning being
painted the same color as the building. The southeast porch enclosure was
approved for the Howard House, 145 North Loomis. The LPC reviewed
conceptual plans for the Harmony School, Christian Early Childhood Center. Don
Woeber, citizen discussed the importance and history of the cannon in City Park.
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL: Ruth Weatherford, Commission Co -Chairperson
called the meeting to order 5:37 p.m., 281 North College Avenue. Commission members
Per Hogestad, Jean Kullman and James Tanner were present. Commission members
Jennifer Carpenter, Bud Frick and Diana Ross were absent. Carol Tunner, Joe Frank and
Karen McWilliams represented staff.
GUESTS: Steve Seefeld, Facilities Project Manager; Wayne Snyder, owner, 319 East
Plum; Tim Simmons, Vintage Innovations; Loretta Gloer and Danielle Griffin, Market Link,
223 Jefferson Street; Al Hauser, Architecture One; Mark Young, Mark Young Construction
Co.; Cathy and Eric Hutchison, Harmony School; Don Woeber, citizen; Steve Short,
citizen.
AGENDA REVIEW: Ms. Tunner said that the discussion of the LPC Budget would be
postponed.
STAFF REPORTS: Ms. Tunner reported that Jim Reidhead withdrew from the Design
Assistance Program because he has a new employment position. Shawna Serillo from
Signs of Tomorrow sent a letter that she had been interested in the DAP program, but felt
it better to leave the designing to the professional engineers and architects.
COMMISSION MEMBERS' REPORTS: None.
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES: The January 14,1997 LPC meeting minutes were accepted
as submitted.
CURRENT DESIGN REVIEW:
Disposition of the Trolley Barn Water Stand -Pipe. Steve Seefeld. City Facilities
Project Manager
The stand -pipe was originally located near Leroy's Locksmith on Walnut Street, where a
water and weigh station was established by the City. An attendant's house was located
by the sidewalk. Mr. Seefeld said that the iron part of the stand -pipe is original. The pipe
was moved to the trolley barn in the 1950s. Ms. Tunner reported that the stand -pipe is not
critical to the site and could be left at that location, but if it was dismantled she
recommended it should be given to the museum. Mr. Seefeld explained that pipes were
leaking underground and in need of repair and they would like to remove the stand -pipe.
His concerns are that damage has occurred and the area of black top has sunken by nine
inches. Repairs would include pipe repair as well as new concrete black top on the west
side. They are also concerned that if the stand -pipe remains it may be vandalized or
neglected. Mr. Seefeld requested that the Water Department make the necessary repairs.
With new metered water service to the building, the old system can be dismantled and
possibly stored at the museum. Mr. Hogestad asked if it is possible to cap the line back
to the main to complete the necessary repairs, stabilize the situation and allow the stand-
pipe to remain, but not as a functional piece. Ms. Kullman and Mr. Seefeld discussed the
common occurrences of vandalism in the area. Ms. Tunner added that the pipe was not
an historical part of the original trolley barn. Mr. Seefeld explained that the biggest issue
is the leaky pipes underground. Ms. Tunner added that it would be nice to get the original
Trolley Barn door back or get an historic door for the building and that photo -
documentation is available. Mr. Seefeld said that he will try to work with Water Utilities on
these issues. Mr. Hogestad said that if no one is willing to take the stand -pipe, then it was
better off at the building because at least it was tied in with Water Utilities. Ms. Kullman
asked if it could be removed to do the necessary repairs and then put it back in place.
Mr. Tanner moved the Commission support the removal of the Stand -Pipe for the
purposes of cutting off or capping the water supply, with the provision that the
Stand -Pipe be given to an acceptable agency if one can be found and If one cannot
be found it be mounted in its original position and not be scrapped. The motion was
seconded by Ms. Kullman, which passed unanimously. (4-0)
OTHER BUSINESS: Ms. Tunner reported that on January 14, 1997 the Commission
reviewed the interior renovation of 314 East Elizabeth. All of the material which the LPC
required to be submitted for the State Tax Credit Part I is now available. The Commission
reviewed it and agreed that the dimensions met their conditions minimally.
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319 East Plum, Schalk -Stallings House (Wayne and Jean Snyder) - Part 2 State Tax
Credit For Rehabilitation
Mr. Snyder explained that the interior work was done in order to keep the place functional
as a single family residence. A bedroom, bathroom and laundry room was added
downstairs and items were switched around in the kitchen. The basement had a dirt floor,
but existed at a decent height so no digging was necessary. The applicant also improved
the electrical system in the kitchen. Ms. Tunner added that the only exterior item was the
garage door, which was able to be painted white.
Mr. Hogestad moved to accept the Part II application for 319 East Plum as presented.
The motion was seconded by Ms. Kullman, which passed unanimously. (4-0)
145 North Loomis, Howard House (John Morley) - Southeast Porch Enclosure, Final
Review
Ms. Tunner explained that the Design Sub -Committee and Design Assistance Program
were utilized for this proposal. Tim Simmons, Vintage Innovations, completed the plans,
which were subsequently reviewed by Mr. Hogestad. Mr. Simmons reported that he
revised the plans and that Mr. Morley is anxious to get started on the project. Mr.
Hogestad said that he appreciates the dimension details but was concerned about
matching heights of window sills. Mr. Hogestad said that as you follow the line around the
comer, there is a change. Mr. Simmons said that he tried to match the front door transoms
and that the window sill height discrepancy is hidden by a tree. Mr. Tanner commented
that the tree may not always conceal it. Mr. Hogestad said that the 2' 6" sill height should
hold all the way around the structure in order to establish continuity. Mr. Simmons said
that he can make the glazing larger to match it around the comer. Mr. Tanner discussed
the beadboard used on the ceiling and reported that it is used mostly for rear additions.
Mr. Simmons explained that it is also used as infill, similar to the porch on 314 East
Mulberry and that on the back elevation it will be filled in with stucco.
Ms. Kullman moved to approve the final design review for the southeast porch
enclosure with noted dimension corrections for 145 North Loomis, the Howard
House. The motion was seconded by Mr. Hogestad, which passed unanimously. (4-
0)
221 Jefferson, Jefferson Block - Rear Second Floor Over -Door Awnina
Loretta Gloer and Danielle Griffin represent Market Link and explained to the Commission
that the address was 223 Jefferson Street. Ms. Tunner said that ice overflow in the gutter
above the door made the stairs unsafe. She had acquired the awning which she installed
to remedy the problem. Ms. Gloer explained that there was a misunderstanding with the
building owner regarding the need for LPC review. She said that the ice on the stairs
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made them very unsafe and she thinks that the awning looks nice. Mr. Hogestad
suggested that the roof and gutter ought to be repaired as well. Ms. Tunner reported that
the neighbors had complained about the awning. She recommended painting the awning
to match the back of the building and agreed that it is serving a safety issue. Ms. Gler
provided a paint sample to match the building.
Mr. Tanner moved to retroactively approve the awning with the provision that the
awning be painted with the color submitted. The motion was seconded by Mr.
Hogestad, which passed unanimously. (4-0)
217 Linden. the Loomis Block - Review of Existina Buildina UP-Liahts
Mr. Hogestad moved to table 217 Linden, review of existing building up -lights
because there was no applicant to represent the submitttal. The motion was
seconded by Mr. Kullman, which passed unanimously. (4-0)
Harmony School, Christian Early Childhood Center - Rehabilitation and Addition.
Conceptual Review For Local Rehabilitation Landmark Grant
Ms. Tunner presented the staff report and explained that Cathy and Eric Hutchison are
using funds from the Rehabilitation Grant program. They will restore the historic building
and add an addition designed with a hyphen. The addition will be of equal height to the
original school. The addition's material is compatible, yet distinguishable from the original
structure, according to Secretary of the Interior's Standard #9. Al Hauser, Architecture
One, reviewed the site plans, elevations and landscape design. He said that the east,
west and south sides will stay almost in their original states. The front of the building will
be restored. A fire escape, a necessary safety feature, is proposed for the east and west
sides. The first level is considered to be the basement, because of its garden level depth.
Mr. Hauser reported that the Universal Building Code (UBC) requires two separate means
of egress on the second floor for grades below third. The hyphen addition serves as an
access to a play area. The hyphen will be covered with standard stucco and an EFTS
treatment.
Mr. Hauser said that the gymnasium needs to be a viable facility to be rented out to other
groups for athletic events, so the ceiling is at a height of twenty feet. The floor level almost
matches that of the lower level of the Harmony School. Wide brick pilasters create
repetitions around the addition and are similar to the design of the Harmony School. The
brick soldier course is also carried through on the gym. Ms. Tunner reviewed the items
which were listed on the grant application, any one of which could be completed with the
funds. Mr. Hauser described the interior design of the school. He said that the four
existing classrooms will be maintained. The southeast corner will be an administrative
office, the northeast, which is the old facilities area, will serve as a music and indoor
recreation room and the addition will house the restrooms, kitchen and gymnasium. They
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discussed the use of a skylight, which would provide good daylighting from the south. Mr.
Hogestad said that the design is a good contemporary expression of a schoolhouse, but
is concerned with the Kai -Wall windows. Mr. Hauser explained that on the south side he
would like to filter out the sun. The Kai -Wall windows were described as four inch grids,
which are a white color in the day and a creamy, yellow color at night. He said that he is
willing to look into other options for the windows. He added that pilasters on the gym are
also intended to be use structurally and will stick out four to eight inches. Mr. Hogestad
discussed the height of the addition and recommended that the building, at twenty-six feet,
match the height of the original school. There should be a good alignment from one
building to another. Ms. McWilliams commented that it is preferable to repair the wood
windows, rather than replace them. Mr. Hauser said that he is also trying to align the
windows with the door for the fire escape. Ms. Tunner requested that Ms. Hutchison
explain the restoration of the entry way. Ms. Hutchison said that the entry way will have
full light, rail style doors with etched glass and the wing walls will be added back. She said
that the doors are only thirty inches, creating a five foot opening. Ms. Tunner suggested
referring to the UCBC. Ms. Hutchison added that neon once existed around the door,
which they would like to restore. Mr. Hauser added that the only signage exists where it
says Harmony School. She explained that she would like to keep the windows because
she likes the wavy glass, but they need to be made energy efficient. Mr. Hogestad said
that he would rather see four inch pilasters on the addition. Otherwise, the shadow line
would become very large compared to the original structure. The Commission discussed
other options for the gymnasium windows, which Mr. Hauser will investigate. It was also
pointed out that the parapet will help to screen the mechanical units on the roof from view.
DISCUSSION ITEMS:
City Park Cannon. Don Woeber Presentation to the Commission (Request from
February 25 Letter to LPC)
Ms. McWilliams reviewed the letter regarding the 4.7 field gun, referred to as the cannon,
which the LPC received from Don Woeber at the last meeting. Pictures of the cannon
were shown to the LPC. Mr. Woeber came to talk about the restoration and proper display
of the cannon. He has served in the military for twenty-six years, mostly in field artillery.
He studies history and his family has been in Colorado for six generations. As a cadet at
West Point and at the Virginia Military Academy, he participated in restoration projects.
Historically, his family owned the Woeber Car and Carriage Co., providing the original
streetcars up and down the front range. Mr. Woeber stated that the discussion of the
cannon was a very emotional issue and stressed how many lives in this area were affected
by the Vietnam War. He described the cannon's history. Two mothers in 1986 felt that the
cannon was teaching kids to kill and petitioned to have the cannon removed. The Elks
Lodge responded by pitching a "Save the Cannon" campaign. Mr. Woeber explained that
the area between Fort Collins, Loveland and Greeley has the largest concentration of
Vietnam Vets in the country, 11,000. This year, the day after Veteran's Day, City Council
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presented an ordinance to move the cannon to the American Legion facility. He mentioned
that two union cannon barrels had been previously moved from the city cemetery and are
being stored at the museum. Mr. Woeber said that the Council was pressed to move the
cannon for safety reason, but neglected to perform any study on, the issue. A State
Inspector of playgrounds has examined the cannon and reported it to be safe.
Mr. Woeber addressed the history of Fort Collins, which was founded as a military post.
Two significant events affecting the town included World War II and the establishment of
the college. The cannon signifies the impact which the war had on the town. Colorado
State University is a land grant school. One of its goals is to provide a military training
center, which existed behind Rockwell Hall. Two years of training was compulsory for all
males at CSU. Battery C, 157th Field Artillery trained on such guns as the cannon in Fort
Collins. Shooting practice took place at Fort Warren. During the Depression, military
training provided hot meals, one dollar a day and a uniform. Mr. Woeber spoke of Louis
Walton, a Fort Collins citizen, President of his class at CSU and a Commander in the
ROTC program. He described how many events and celebrations hosted by the Elks
Lodge are located in City Park and are focused around the cannon. He stressed that it is
the American People who own this gun and that it would be very easy for a politician in
another state to relocate the gun, as well as the ones stored at the museum.
Ms. Weatherford asked what Mr. Woeber recommends for the cannon. He said that he
thinks the cannon should be placed at one of the entrances to City Park, which entrance
to be decided by City Park Staff. He added that they could probably obtain a 1.55
Howitzer, which is basically the same size, to place on the other side of the entrance,
creating a symmetry. He said that anyone who has served in World War II, Korea,
Vietnam or the Gulf War could relate to the 1.55 Howitzer. The cannons at the entrance
would alleviate congestion, and would give people good access to the guns. If you pull
the cannon out of City Park, then it loses its historical significance.
Steve Short, citizen commented on the cannon. He grew up in Fort Collins and is part of
the Vietnam generation. He remembers the first rally against the war in Fort Collins.
When he recently returned to town, he went to visit the War Memorial at LaPorte Avenue
in order to remember and help clear his memory of those times. He found out that the
memorial had been moved to Edora Park, where he had to go searching for the memorial.
He said that they should not have to hide this part of history and that it has a place to be
preserved. He agreed that the cannon should be kept in the park Ms. Weatherford added
that the cannon belongs to the City of Fort Collins, so it should not be moved to the town
of LaPorte. Mr. Hogestad said that the most compelling argument was that generations
in Fort Collins have played on the cannon, but he would like to see more concrete
documentation on this cannon's connection to Fort Collins. Ms. Tunner passed around a
post card which shows the cannon before the playground surrounded it. Mr. Woeber
commented that he does not think that the cannon was installed in 1932. Mr. Tanner said
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that the information presented tonight is a big reason to designate and move the cannon
to another location within the park. Mr. Hogestad explained that to designate the cannon
it needs to relate back to the history of Fort Collins. Mr. Tanner said that by definition it
is part of the local history because it has been in City Park for sixty years. Ms.
Weatherford encouraged Mr. Woeber to submit his completed application for local
designation of the cannon. Mr. Woeber said that we need to be interested in taking care
of the heritage which he and his ancestors have built.
The meeting adjourned 8:40 p.m.
Submitted by Nicole Sneider, Secretary