HomeMy WebLinkAboutLandmark Preservation Commission - Minutes - 07/08/1997LANDMARK PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Regular Meeting
July 8, 1997
Council Liaison: Scott Mason
Staff Liaison: Joe Frank
Commission Chairperson: Jennifer Carpenter (226-0690)
SUMMARY OF MEETING: The Commission and Staff welcomed the new LPC
members. Per Hogestad was elected Vice -Chairperson of the Commission. A
rear railing guardrail was approved for the One West Art Center in the old Post
Office, 201 South College. Matt Rogers, a local artist presented his proposal to
repaint and restore the old Coca Cola sign on the Hohnstein Building, #5 Old
Town Square. Ms. Tunner discussed painting different buildings within the Ranch
Way Feeds building complex and Susan Daly's proposal to paint a mural on the
silo. Different designs for Old Town entrance markers were reviewed.
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL: Per Hogestad, called the meeting to order at 5:42
p.m., 281 North College Avenue. Commission members Bud Frick, Angela Milewski,
Diana Ross, Stephen Short and James Tanner were present. Jennifer Carpenter,
Commission Chairperson was absent. Carol Tunner and Karen McWilliams represented
Staff.
GUESTS: Angela Brayham, Director, One West Contemporary Art Center; Dick Hill,
Architect; Matt Rogers, restoration painter and artist.
AGENDA REVIEW: Ms. Tunner added a discussion under Other Business of installing
plaques at the entrances to Old Town.
STAFF REPORTS: Ms. McWilliams reported that the owners of the Harmony School do
plan to move the teacherage on the site to the southwest portion of the property, as
originally depicted in their plans.
COMMISSION MEMBERS' REPORTS: None.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: The June 10, 1997 LPC meeting minutes were accepted
as submitted.
Introduction of New Members
Ms. Tunner introduced the newly appointed LPC members: Angela Milewski and Stephen
Short.
Election of New Vice -Chairperson
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Ms. Ross moved to nominate Per Hogestad as the new Landmark Preservation
Commission Vice -Chairman. Mr. Tanner seconded the motion, which passed
unanimously. (6-0)
CURRENT DESIGN REVIEW:
201 South College Avenue. the Old Post Office — Rear Fence Replacement
Ms. Tunner explained that the railing at the rear of the old Post Office had been
vandalized. The iron railing around the rear steps had been pulled apart and strewn
across the parking lot. She added that Angela Brayham, Director, One West Art Center,
had planned to replace the rear railing in the near future. Now there is an urgency to
replace the railing immediately because the broken and missing railings pose a hazard.
The existing railings are not original to the building. They were installed in the early
1970s, when the Post Office Plaza was completed. Ms. Brayham explained that they
received a Colorado State Historical Society Grant to do a number of fagade improvements
and to replace the railings around the building. She added that the stairs down to the
basement have been left exposed since the vandalism, and it presents a liability. She and
her architect, Dick Hill, proposed a number of solutions and different styles for the railings.
Mr. Hill presented sketches of a utilitarian handrail for the rear of the building. He
explained that the applicant is presently seeking conceptual approval. The design is very
solid with round steel piping and vertical spindles, four inches on center. He added that
the design could be circular or square with round piping. The attachment to the concrete
has not been designed. They plan to paint the railing a chocolate brown, which would be
coated with a matte finish. Across the front of the building a more ornate, transparent
design is proposed. Ms. Tunner added that originally, no railing existed on the front of the
building. Mr. Hill said that the north and east sides of the building are more ornate and the
south and west sides, the rear of the building and the service entrance, are less ornate.
Mr. Frick suggested that the bollards be increased to three feet, so they will be more
visible in a rearview mirror. The proposed railing will be installed in the same location as
the existing railing.
Mr. Tanner moved to approve that portion of the application addressing the
utilitarian guard rail and railings on the west side of the building, and to require more
details be presented for a full dress version at a future meeting. Ms. Ross seconded
the motion.
Mr. Frick added a friendly amendment to amend the bollard height to three feet. Ms.
Ross accepted the friendly amendment. The motion passed unanimously. (6-0)
Ms. Brayham brought forth another issue to discuss with the Commission. She explained
that the awnings, which had been removed, contained the signage for the art gallery. They
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are currently looking for a signage design which works with the historic building. She
showed examples of several different types of signs from galleries. Ms. Brayham likes the
idea of a changeable banner within a steel framework. Mr. Hogestad suggested
incorporating the signage into the railing. Mr. Short suggested that the sign make a
connection with some architectural feature of the building. The Secretary of the Interior's
Standards suggest to use a sign band on the building, but not to hide any historic feature.
Mr. Hill added that the original Post Office letters are available. The LPC discussed
possible locations for the sign and the appeal of a colorful banner in juxtaposition to the
historic building. The LPC agreed that a ground sign is appropriate and that the Art Center
could use the Design Assistance Program for their project.
DISCUSSION ITEMS:
#5 Old Town Square, the J. L. Hohnstein Block — Repair Coca Cola Sian Conceptual Discussion
Discussion
Ms. Tunner explained that Matt Rogers had inquired about repainting the Coca Cola sign
on the J. L. Hohnstein Block. Harold Asmus and Don Brown originally painted the sign in
1958. Mr. Rogers stressed that the sign is fading and that the community would lose it.
The sign needs to be restored to be preserved. Mr. Rogers spoke with Mr. Asmus
regarding the original bulletin paint colors. Ms. Tunner spoke with Tom Koehan of the
National Park Service, who stated that the significance of a sign is its ability to portray a
message. To restore the sign, you can fill in the spaces, which are missing paint, or paint
over the entire sign with its original colors. Mr. Short inquired about the preparation of the
sign before painting. Mr. Rogers explained that the prep work is minimal. Where the lip
of the paint is turned up, it will be gently scraped away. The paint will be purchased from
the same firm, where Mr. Asmus originally got it. Mr. Rogers added that the new brick on
the building to the left of the sign could also be made to look older. He added that the
owner of the building, Ed Stoner approves of the project. Mr. Hogestad asked how long
the sign would last if they did not restore it. Mr. Rogers answered maybe ten or twelve
years and at that point it will be too faded to be restored. Ms. McWilliams said that there
are several other old advertising signs in town and maybe Mr. Rogers could work on a less
significant sign first, to see how the restoration would look.
Mr. Tanner discussed the status and function of old signs in town. He explained that they
are no longer serving a purpose. Their appeal may be based on their transitory status and
their charm is created by the fact that they are fading away. He said that the signs are not
like buildings, which can be used and reused. Mr. Tanner has reservations about painting
the sign, because of the charm associated with its chipping and fading away. The
Commission discussed whether the sign could be painted over or the missing pieces filled
in. Mr. Rogers explained that it would look like a checkerboard if the chips are filled in with
fresh paint. Ms. Milewski said that she would feel a sense of loss if the sign were
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completely lost. Ms. McWilliams asked when the new paint would look faded. Mr. Rogers
thought that it would take five to ten years for the paint to fade. Ms. Tunner explained, this
is a controversial issue and that public input would be necessary. Mr. Tanner suggested
that they think about the theoretical issues involved.
The LPC and Mr. Rogers discussed alternative means to preserve the sign. They
discussed sealing it with a substance called Red Lead. Mr. Short stated that according to
Western philosophy, you preserve the physical structure or form; according to Eastern
philosophy, the craftsmanship and the spirit of the creator are preserved. Mr. Frick
requested that Mr. Rogers submit his portfolio and suggested he look into getting involved
with the Design Assistance Program, because of his expertise. Mr. Rogers will also
provide information on the Red Lead sealant and the proposed color palette. The LPC
agreed that if a sign was to be painted, Mr. Rogers should start with a less conspicuous
sign. Mr. Tanner added that many older Signs exist on the second floor of historic
buildings, which are very faded.
OTHER BUSINESS:
Paintinq Ranch Way Feeds and Proposed Mural for Silo
Ms. Tunner reported that Ranch Way Feeds has repainted some of their buildings. After
the Design Review sub -committee visited the site, Ms. Tunner approved the painting
administratively. The owner explained that they painted the brick buildings a brick color,
as recommended in the Old Town Design Guidelines. Ms. Tunner explained that they
were not able to remove the existing white paint from the brick. They matched the green
trim which exists on the Harmony Mill. Ms. Tunner informed the LPC that they would also
like to paint the second building from the road and the stacked plank building, both of
which are older historic buildings.
Ms. Tunner also reported that Susan Daly made a proposal to the owner to paint a mural
on the Ranch Way Feeds silo. She has offered to paint an historical scene with a river
and a mill. Ms. Tunner provided photographs of some of her other murals, and a copy of
the June People magazine, which contained an article on barn art. Mr. Tanner said that
they have already declared the building as a work of art and it should not be used as a
blank canvas. He asked why cover up the building, and what if a request came in to paint
a mural on the side of the Northern Hotel. Mr. Frick said that the signs were advertising
businesses and these are murals. Ms. Milewski said that these projects should be
reviewed on a case by case basis. The Commission as a whole, generally discouraged
painting a mural on the silos.
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Ms. Tunner reminded the Commission that they had received a Certified Local
Government Grant last year to place plaques at the entrances to Old Town. Four markers
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will be cast in bronze and then welded to steel pipes. She presented choices for the
proposed historic marker. Slides of the proposed locations for the markers were shown
and other possible sites were discussed. The LPC discussed the layout, size and shape
of the plaque. They picked a design, decided that the plaque should be an eighteen inch
square, and suggested removal of the enforcement language. Mr. Tanner also suggested
that the words, °welcome to", be eliminated, but the LPC decided that the text will be left
the same as presented. The Design Sub-Commiftee will review the revised plaque design
in a breakfast meeting next week.
Mr. Frick moved to approve the eighteen square inch sign plaque as presented
without the enforcement language. Mr. Short seconded the motion, which passed
unanimously. (6-0)
The meeting adjourned at 8:00 p.m.
Submitted by Nicole Sneider, Secretary.