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COLLINS GENERAL EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT COMMITTEE
SEPTEMBER 4, 1997 MEETING MINUTES
COUNCIL LIAISON: Mayor Ann Azari
COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT:
Jim Hume, 221-6776
Dave Agee, 221-6770
Alan Krcmarik, Member/Staff Support, 221-6788
Kevin Westhuis, 224-6156
Patti Teraoka, 221-6715
OTHERS PRESENT:
Russ Proctor, Watson Wyatt Worldwide, the City's actuarial firm
Laurie Harvey (Staff Support - Human Resources)
Greg Tempel (Staff Support - Legal)
Bob Eichem (Staff Support - Investments)
Sue Wilcox (Staff Support - Secretary)
CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Kevin Westhuis called the meeting to order at 1: 45 p.m. in
the Council Information Center of City Hall West.
ITEMS OF NOTE: On behalf of the Committee and staff members, Kevin thanked Russ Proctor
for the luncheon for outgoing member Jerry P. Brown and incoming member Patti Teraoka.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Alan Krcmarik had requested additional time to review the
minutes of the special GERC meeting on July 22, 1997. These were now presented for review
and Alan moved that they be approved as presented. Patti Teraoka seconded the motion, which
passed unanimously. The minutes of the August 14th meeting were also presented for review.
Alan moved and Jim Hume seconded his motion to approve the minutes as presented. The
motion passed unanimously.
DISCUSSION TOPICS:
1. GER PLAN MEMBER(S) COMMENTS/CITIZEN PARTICIPATION: There were no
member or citizen comments.
2. REVIEW OF AUGUST 26TH TEST FOCUS GROUP - PREPARATION FOR
SEPTEMBER FOCUS GROUP MEETINGS
MAIN POINTS: The GERC, support staff members, and several GER Plan members served as a
"test" focus group on August 26. Jeff Kraft of Watson Wyatt Worldwide gave a slide
presentation of the material to be covered in the focus groups and the test group provided
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suggestions and changes, which were incorporated into the final presentation. Russ Proctor
distributed copies of the revisions and the group discussed summarizing the presentation by
showing the initial slide which stated the issues.
One or two GERC members signed up to attend each of the focus group sessions. Laurie Harvey
sent invitations to 25 people for each of the 8 sessions. Anyone unable (or uninterested) in
attending would be replaced. Laurie stated that she used about every 4th name from a list of
members and tried to balance each group between male/female, years of service, and a variety of
different job categories.
CONCLUSIONS/NEXT STEPS: Sue will provide snacks for each session, which will be held
at 8 and 10 am and 1 and 3 pm on Wednesday, September 17th in the Police Training Room, City
Hall East and the same hours in Human Resources Conference Room on Thursday, September
18th.
3. INVESTMENT REPORT, 2ND QUARTER & 1ST HALF OF 1997 &
INVESTMENT POLICIES DISCUSSION
MAIN POINTS: Alan reported that the second quarter of 1997 was a good one for the economy
and for investments, with a surprise drop in interest rates. For the first half of the year, the 5 year
treasury note yield was 6.46%, with the City's yield for fared income investments was 6.78%.
The GERC's target for the bond component of the portfolio is 5016, but it currently comprises
52.2%. Domestic mutual funds in the portfolio had a 10.65% rate of return, while the benchmark
Standard and Poor's 500 Index rate of return was 20.6%. (It should be noted that the S & P 500
Index outperformed 95% of all domestic mutual funds this year.) The international mutual fund
component returned 6.74% for the first quarter, while the second quarter was 8.38%. The EAFE,
its benchmark index (European, Asian, and Far East Index) rose 10.35% in the first quarter and
13.0% in the second quarter.
Alan reported that after researching the Plan document and City Code, It appears it is not
necessary to take the GERP investment policies to City Council. Greg Tempel will take a closer
look at this issue and provide some direction at the next meeting. Greg suggested changes to
make the policies consistent with State law and removing references to ERISA, which only
applies to private sector retirement plans. Russ commented that the policies were more detailed
than is usual in his experience. He was concerned that the use of "will" rather than "may" might
limit the options available to the GERC and the Plan.
Alan asked whether the Committee wished to change the asset allocation formula in the policies
by increasing the percentage of mutual funds and using a + or - 10% flexibility factor to
accommodate the extreme volatility of the stock market. Alan explained that without the
flexibility factor, it would frequently be necessary for the Committee to authorize staff to increase
or decrease the mutual fiord portion of the portfolio in order to comply with the approved
percentages. For example, the current 52.2% would be in excess of the 50% allowed, requiring
that investments be sold to achieve a strict 50% component. Frequent buying and selling defeats
the long-term investment philosophy that the Committee has adopted. There followed a lengthy
discussion of what the new limits should be, whether this should be a part of the policy, and the
difference in reporting the "book value" of stock, versus the current "market value" of the stock.
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It was pointed out that the Plan currently has about $17 million in stocks, with about $730,000 a
year required for benefit payments and $1.2 - $1.3 million being contributed to the fund yearly for
current employees. Russ estimated that it would be about 2004 before the Plan's benefit
payments would equal the amount being contributed yearly.
Also discussed was appropriate actions for those mutual funds which were initially approved, but
have underperformed over time. Tim Hume pointed out that a rolling 3-year average of one of the
international funds shows it consistently performing below expectations. It was noted that long-
term investments are at least 5 years, and one or two low performance years can throw the
average off, even though it is a valuable investment. Alan discussed a "J" curve which shows that
greater diversity produces a greater return while overall risk actually decreases. Several options
are possible:
1) Continue investing in an under -performing stock as part of the dollar -cost -averaging concept.
The idea is that if the long-term (5+ years) track record has been good, that this is an opportunity
to accumulate more shares so that when the fimd's value climbs, the Plan will benefit. The risk is
that the fund's performance will continue to underperform.
2) Cap the investment at current levels and continue to hold the shares purchased. This policy
would limit possible future losses to the stock already owned, while maintaining a diversity of
investments.
3) Discontinue fund purchases and divest the fund of all shares it currently owns. This eliminates
the risk of possible future loss in a declining stock, but may result in a loss to the Plan when the
shares are sold. It also reduces the diversity of the portfolio and dilutes the benefits of dollar -
cost -averaging.
CONCLUSION/NEXT STEPS: Russ Proctor indicated he would provide Alan and Bob with a
copy of the "Wilshire Report", which is a summary of public retirement plans showing investment
percentage breakdowns for other public funds. Other sources of information were discussed. Tim
Hume moved to set a limit of 55% of GERP investments in equity investments while more
information is gathered and the Committee will reconsider changing the limits at a later date.
Patti Teraoka seconded the motion, which passed on 4-1 vote. (Hume, Krcmarik, Teraoka, and
Westhuis voting for and Agee against.)
Kevin then moved that the GERC set a strategic target for equity investments not to exceed 55%
of total investments, with no more than 10% of that amount to be in international equity
investments. Before taking action at a future meeting, the GERC will hear comments and
recommendations from Bob Eichem, Alan, and Russ about setting a flexibility factor (+ or - 10%
or + or - 5%) on the investment target percentages to allow for market fluctuations. Patti
Teraoka seconded the motion, which passed 4-1. (Hume, Krcmarik, Teroka, and Westhuis voting
for the motion and Agee voting against it.)
Bob, Russ, Alan, Greg, and Dave will stay after the regular meeting and discuss possible policy
changes.
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4. WEB PAGE UPDATE
MAIN POINTS: Jim provided a copy of the GERP Web Page he prepared and asked for
comments. He still would like to get the full investment report on the system, but is limited by the
format the report is created in. He is looking for a retirement needs calculation sheet to include.
Jim said not to expect the web page to be on the Intranet anytime soon, as it is still in the process
of development. A request for larger type size was expressed.
CONCLUSION/NEXT STEPS: Tun will meet with Bob Eichem and Sherrie Temple, who
prepare the investment reports, and work out a format that will "translate" onto the web page
more easily. Kevin Westhuis has a retirement calculation sheet he thinks will work and will send
Jim and Russ a copy. The committee members thanked Tim for doing the work to get the web
page off the ground. Greg Tempel also thanked Tim for the information he provided about
conflict of interest, which was very helpful.
5. ELECTION OF OFFICERS
MAIN POINTS: According to the GERC bylaws, September is the month for election of a
chairperson and a vice chairperson.
CONCLUSIONS/NEXT STEPS: Dave Agee nominated Kevin Westhuis to continue as
chairperson and Tim Hume seconded the motion. Alan Krcmarik moved that Dave Agee also
continue as vice -chairperson for the 1997-98 term. Patti Teraoka seconded the motion, which
passed unanimously.
6. CHANGES IN 1998 MEETING SCHEDULE
MAIN POINTS: Sue Wilcox noted that the January, 1998 GERC meeting would fall on New
Years Day. She also said that since the 4th of July falls on a Saturday, it will be observed on
Friday, July 3rd. The regular July meeting would be the day before that 3-day weekend, so it was
suggested that these two meetings be changed.
CONCLUSION/NEXT STEPS: Dave Agee moved and Patti Teraoka seconded his motion to
move the January meeting one week to Thursday, January 8th and the July meeting one week
later to Thursday, July 9th at the regular times. The motion passed unanimously.
7.OTHER BUSINESS
MAIN POINTS: The wording on slide 15 of the Focus Group presentations was clarified.
CONCLUSION/NEXT STEPS: Russ will take the corrections back to Jeff Kraft.
AGENDA & SCHEDULE FOR NEXT MEETING
The next meeting will be Thursday, October 2nd at 1:15 pm in the Council Information Center
(CIC) of City Hall West. The agenda will include:
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1. Plan Member Comments/Citizen Participation
2. Report on Focus Group Meetings & Questionnaire
3. Draft Work Plan for 1998
4. Approval of Investment Policies
5. Other Business
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 3:21 p.m.
FUTURE MEETING SCHEDULE:
The General Employees Retirement Committee normally meets at 1:15 p.m. on the 1st Thursday
of each month in the Council Information Center, City Hall West.
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 2, 1997
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 6, 1997
THURSDAY, DECEMBER, 4, 1997
THURSDAY, JANUARY 8, 1998*
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 5, 1998
THURSDAY, MARCH 5, 1998
THURSDAY, APRIL 2, 1998
THURSDAY, MAY 7, 1998
THURSDAY, JUNE 4, 1998
THURSDAY, JULY 9, 1998**
*Because the January meeting fails on New
Years Day, it was moved to the next Thursday,
January 8, 1998
**Because the July meeting falls so close to the
observance of Independence Day (on July
3rd), it was moved to the next Thursday,
July 9 th, 1998
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